People are spending close to 100k on new ford expeditions.
Okay? How is that a new thing? An Expedition or a Suburban was still around $100k (in today's money) 20 years ago. Spending $100k on a Ford product is insane. I see hundreds of Yukon Denali's a day which is also crazy that people are spending $100k on those timebombs.
>>29103486the interior quality is hostile
>>29103486It's not a ton less than a base model G wagon, which I find hilarious.
>>29103486>timebombs.they're one of the car models most likely to hit 250k miles.
>>29103490The quality of a base G-Wagon really isn't different. The repair costs are also much higher
>>29103501Maybe if you do it over 5 years. Those 6.2's are nightmares. The tranny is a nightmare. Rust is a major issue. I see ~5 year old frames already covered in surface rust.
>>29103486>Spending $100k on a Ford product is insaneAgreed. Though I really don't understand why anyone would buy any modern car when you can buy pic related, high end trim toyota highlanders for ~20k$. Bulletproof platform, the problems are all known so you don't buy unknowns, and if you don't like the wear and tear you can splurge and spend 20k$ on repairs and pimp my ride tier shit to make it EXACTLY how you want it to be and you'd still have 60k$ left.
>People are getting suckered into spending close to 100k on new ford expeditions.FTFY
>>29103530I wouldn't buy that either. That just looks like an earlier example of the blobover menace we're dealing with now.
>>29103547Can you give me a better alternative to a 7 seater family vehicle that is in this budget category and eats about the same or less than a Toyota Highlander Hybrid and still has a reputation for reliability and repairability?Genuinely curious.
>>29103553Nissian NV3500Chevy Express
>>29103557>sub 13 mpg>hf parkingTbh I'm euro so gas is the biggest cost by far. I guess the math might be different in freedomland, also that car is way to big for the category. But thanks nonetheless. I guess I'll have to buy smth bigger once we get to 5+ kids, I'll have to buy a passenger van at that point
>>29103561no way a white european is producing 5 kids without a brown bull involved.
>>29103563You flatter me. We're religious calvinist zealots if that makes it more conceivable
>>29103565>calvinistAnd you were so close to being based, damn
>>29103488#dreammomcar #fyp
>>29103530That's not a new car to show off on the gram
>>29103561Diesel land cruiser?
>>29103583To be fair european calvinism and murrican calvinism are different beasts. I should've just called myself presbytarian.
>>29103593It would not be advisable to buy a diesel for my use case because i do a lot of frequent, short trips (<10 mins). So petrol only.>>29103592I have no reference to this. To me, it's certainly smth you could show off.>nice shiny exterior>leather seats>luxury internal featuresIdk tho I haven't done it, but I do show new cars to buddies when i meet them and give them a tour of it. Because I like it and I want to share because i think it's awesome. Idk, modern people with their modern preferences make less and less sense to me with each passing year.
>>29103486Spending more than $40k for any vehicle is insane
>>29103482Will never understand why non-car people will spend so much debt on cars.If you wanna show off it's much better and financially smart to buy nice clothes or a house rather than a car.
>>29104140not true at all. your home can't be taken with you, so how can you show it off? nice clothes are great, but if you step off the bus, you're instantly seen as a joke.
the irony is the vast majority of people buying all these super expensive cars know absolutely shit all about cars.
>>29103482I bought an Expedition Tremor and I like itPROs >big >actually somewhat decent gas millage >nice interior >lots of horsepower and torque >split tailgate is actually way more useful than I want to admit CONs>TWO giant screens are annoying >gauge cluster only has a tachometer in sport mode and towing (gay) >gauges can’t be configured like my F-150 Tremor I traded in >independent with CV axles in the rear wouldn’t have been my choice. Would have preferred a solid rear axle. To be fair not a lot of body on frame SUVs are doing it anymore (Sequoia I think still has one) Overall, I like it. However, I’m looking for a 2nd or 3rd gen Hilux Surf with the 3L diesel and a manual transmission.
>>29104295What do you do for work unc?
>>29103530The only people I knew who had those were a chubby goth girl with massive tits, that borderline were a medical condition and an effeminate twink who would get beat up by his dom daddy bf’s
>>29103482Why would you get this instead of a Navigator?
Get used to it losers. Ecoboost Musty is $56K now.This is the new world. If you aren't a multi-millionaire, you don't deserve to live.A loaf of bread will be $1000 soon. Catch up homie
>>29104396$55K for a slightly lower trimmed one
>>29104295that's retarded I use the tach to manually shift my automatic tranny all the timeI just leave the digital display in "smart" mode and there's always a tach - I will say a digital speedometer is impossible to read closely since you need exact speeds to play the "keep your speed at 9 over the limit as it changes constantly" game - would be fine with analog speedometer and tach and digital other stuff We had a VW suv with a digital display that was similar iirc - only showed tach in sportsorry but if you sell a gutless 4 banger with an 8 speed auto programmed for fuel economy - I'm gonna have to shift it manually anywhere that isn't flat straight roads
>>29103482so whats the alternative for the people that want an actual big ass SUV and nothing else?this anon >>29103486 already bitching about the yukon
>>29104501Chevy Express. 400hp V8, RWD. That's all you need.
>>29104504>Chevy Express. 400hp V8, RWDway too ignore the > want an actual big ass SUV and nothing else?
>>29104396>>29104397complete insanity. what a world we live in.
>>29104501telluride/palisade, or a regular tahoe at like 65k if you absolutely positively need body on frame, grand wagoneer or sequoia if you hate yourself, grand Cherokee lwb if you are honest about not using the third row and want to launch your suspension at unsuspecting tailgaters on the interstate, Nissan armada if you want something nobody else will have
>>29104516>regular tahoemy uncle has had both a tahoe and a yukon for over a decado now, and he has never had an issue with either of them, maybe its because he actually takes care of both suvs>telluride/palisadetheir reviews always have them up there amongst the best but for some reason I still don trust the reviewers, are the telluride/palisade like the tahou/yukon situation or the only reason that they are rated that high is mainly because they are way cheaper than the competition
>>29104528the gooks are unibody fwd, and still have all the same issues as other gook unibody fwd cars in that they will have a fire recall per year across their model lineup. plus the palisade 3rd row killed a baby. but they put a bunch of money and effort into stuff people care about
>>29104528>>29104530This. The Palisade and Telluride are what the grocery getter SUVs of yesteryear were always supposed to be. Okay in the snow, third rows for when it’s your turn to drive the kids to soccer practice, mildly better on gas prices thanks to FWD instead of classic 4WD, and they have the comfort features that matter to normies more on a daily basis at like half the price of an Expedition or Suburban. If you’re a $100-$150k a year family household income in the suburbs you could do a lot worse. The issue among the American buyers is mostly just the total lack of a cool factor like you can get with a Bronco and honestly for a mild drop in reliability you can get a more capable Grand Cherokee for cheaper. Honda Passport, Land Cruiser, and Bronco still mog if you’re a single kid parent like me though.
>>29104501>so whats the alternative for the people that want an actual big ass SUV and nothing else?a bullet to the head for having shit taste
>>29104973You gotta put the kids somewhere, anon. Oh right you don't have people who love you..
>>29104295what a hideous desert suburbia hellscape. bet you're fat as shit.
>>29104977>You gotta put the kids somewhere, anon.that's what a regular back seat is for. third rows are for subhuman breeders
>>29105007You don't even have a family until you have at least 4 kids. 1-2 kids is larping as parents, 3 is almost made it tier.Real families don't even fit a 7 seater but honestly 5 kids is a pretty good number. But however many God blesses you with desu.
>>29104956alright so what are the differences between the Palisade and Telluride? or are they just the same shit with a different badge
>>29105095Telluride is a bit more “sporty” particularly the X-Line. Palisade is more “luxurious.” You can get the same options in pretty much either though. The Telluride has more cargo space. They’re pretty much the same thing it’s mostly just mild differences in looks. I personally like the way the Palisade looks more but would probably buy the Telluride if I had to pick one for myself.
>>29105099from what you are saying I might also get the Telluride, btw it sounds like a tahou/suburban-yukon situationIf I have to choose between the 3 big gmc SUVs, I would pick the yukon xl
>>29105004Poorfag is melting down lol
>>29105007t. one-pump chump whose two kids were accidents
>>29105107Same engine. Same unibody design. You’re not going to find a major difference in either so the one you prefer the look of should be the pick. I’ve heard Hyundai dealerships are easier to work with maintenance wise than Kia but never owned a Kia to verify. The pilot seats are arguably my favorite feature in the bigger SUVs and you can get them in either.
>>29104505A passenger Express is still more of a SUV than the crossovers dressed up as SUV's.
>>29105095The difference is which dealer processes your lemon law claim.You'd have better reliability from a clapped out high mileage luxury car bought at a buy here pay here with zero service records
>>29105099Paid shill
I spent $55k on the base model long boy version. got it under 30000 miles saved $20k+ off a new one.With the 3rd row down you're basically driving an econoline.
>>29103486>How is that a new thing? An Expedition or a Suburban was still around $100k (in today's money) 20 years ago.Try $70k in today's dollars>1995 Chevrolet K1500 Suburban LT 4WD>$34KIt's also important to keep in mind that EVERY OTHER cost was lower, proportionally to Incomes.FoodHealthcareInsuranceBut most of all, Rents and Mortgages1995>Median Home Price (All Homes): Approximately $111,000 to $114,600>Median Income Nationwide: $34,076 per year
>>29105483That Burb is not really comparable to a top trim Expedition. You can get a base model Expedition for around $70k which proves my point. If you use my original example of a 20 year old GMT800 which was the start of the luxury SUV craze you're still looking at almost $100k in today's money for a Yukon XL Denali.blah blah blah boomers blah blah. It has never been easier to make a good living. There are plenty of well paying careers out there that don't require a $500k piece of paper. You also wouldn't make it a week in a 90's workplace. The median income is irrelevant. Look up the demographics back then vs now. Get rid of the people bringing that average down and the average is going to go way higher than it ever was.
>>29103482where the absolute FUCK is the V8
>>29105377>Accusing someone of being a paid shill for having a mild preference between two slightly different versions of the same carImagine being a Hyundai fan boy. Jesus Christ.
>>29106933>imagine having a positive opinion about a kia or a hyundai out of your own volition, without being paidGrim.
>>29105517>Ford shill>BoomerEnd your fucking life already.
>>29105531killed by emissions standards.
>>29104956you will be lucky to get the Grand Cherokee off the lot without a check engine light. the Koreans blow Stellantis out of the water on reliability these days,
>>29103592It's not terrible either. People care less about owning a new car nowadays.
>>29104150>nice clothes are great, but if you step off the bus,Everyone is kind of poor nowadays, no one even cares if you wear thrifted clothes if they look good.
>>29104977>You gotta put the kids somewhere, anonThat's what the minivan is for
>>29107147it's legally a light truck, it's held to the same standard as the F150
>>29107186also GM has no issue stuffing a V8 in every Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon/Escalade ever, Ford has no excuse
>>29107064>Imagine reading something described as moms grocery getter and thinking that’s a positive opinionRetarded
>>29104977>gotta put the kids somewhere Yeah, in the basement