now that the dust has finally settled, what do you guys think about the drz4s?
>>291041864s?I guess that's the zoomers new nickname for The DRZ 400S ?Back on my day, we just called it Doctor Z.
hmm its ok
>>29104223They renamed it when Suzuki made it fuel injection. That's their new model naming scheme, the SV650 is now the SV7.
>>29104253damn I'm really glad I bought one while it's still called the sv650
>>29104223it's upgraded now, stupid boomer
>>29104186>frame design from the 80sNo thanks.And I only ride R models. I want every ounce of performance I can squeeze out of it.
>>29104282There never was a DRZ400R, the DRZ400E was the fast(ish) one.
Probably too expensive.
>>29104186i have a DRZ400SM and it was one of the most fun motorcycles i have owned. i was really hoping the replacement DRZ would be 500cc with a 6 speed. but at least this has fuel injection.
>>29104282This poster is a nigger paying child support by the way
Dirt bikes are the only sort of motorcycle I find value with.
>>29104186Old version is better>>29104268>upgraded>Fuel Injection>>291044206speed was the only update it needed, and they didn't give it another gear.
>>29104268I'm going to buy a DRZ400SFuck you
>>29104398>There never was a DRZ400RThats my point.
>>29104186>too slow to go on the highway>too heavy to do single trackwhats the point of getting one if its shit at everything? Buy a husqvarna 501 instead
>>29105284>whats the point of getting oneDudes with man-buns ride them to work.Think of a tech startup in San Francisco with moped parking and he wants to be cool but is scared shitless of an EX500
I think it's cool, and the DRZ doesn't need a sixth gear. If I were in the market for a new dual sport, I would be looking at those or an XR650L.I don't know how difficult it is to get into the ECU, but I would try to have all the rider modes flashed out of it and delete the ABS. If it sells well enough, the aftermarket will have solutions for all that stuff.https://youtu.be/Hgtlpap3a1E
The old one was good, so this one is good. But it really could have used a sixth gear.
>>29105284> Just buy a Husky 501 for a dual sport, guys> Service interval is 10 hours> Air filter at 10> Valve checks at 15> Top end at 50Lol. LMAO even.
>>29104779Then R is extra fucking meaningless. So you'd race a Yamaha wr250r over a Yamaha wr250f in enduro?
>>29105354Air filter is a constant if you're in any amount of dirt, oil changes and valve checks are true though.
>>29104560>Accelerator pump function built into how all fuel injection works>Same AFR at 9000' and sea level>Greater range from the same amount of gas>Same AFR at all throttle positions/loads
>>29105364I do not change my air filter on my 650 every 700 miles, not even with riding moon dust. 1500, maybe.
>>29105368faggot
>>29105354if you really value your riding time then its worth it
>>29105392Care to refute any of my points on a technical basis?>>29105379Is it a paper filter or an oiled foam filter? You really should be using an oiled foam filter.
>>29105360Im not running stadium events.Im living free. And I want maximum performance when im doing it.
>>29105435So just to confirm, you'd pick a wr250r over a wr250f?
>>29105354This alone is why im excited for electric bikes, give me 100 miles of range and ill switch forever
>>29105466Likely not happening unless you're putting along on a trail with something as bulky as a TW200. 2wd e-tw200 would be fucking schweet, why am I poo-pooing this?
>>29105392your mother.
>>29105439>t. Poser who doesnt understand where tje "F" came from.
>>29105468the stark varg has about 50 miles if you're not ripping it on a motocross track, i dont think its that far fetched
>>29105514F stands for four stroke in Yamaha's lineup, keep being retarded.
>>29105564It has potential but thats a harsh tradeoff when my camper is parked in the sand at Glamis and I have (2) 5 gallon jugs of premix for the weekend and I can top off my CR250R in 15 seconds and be on my way again.>theres no electrical outlets there BTW. Rum what you brung.
>>29105565Hahahahhahhahaha>the dumbass doesnt inderstand the transition from 2smoke to 4Thats for outing yourself you fucking zoomer poser piece of shit faggot nobike squib scab roadrash
>>29104186Bench racers gor BTFO because everyone who has ridden both always goes with the 4S. >>29104560Everyone knows that a modern EFI bike needs an exhaust and tune. With a full arrow exhaust and tune you're looking at just shy of 40hp at the wheel
>>29105568Are you being retarded on purpose for our amusement? The wr250r is the slowest WR series bike. Thanks for telling us you're retarded.
>>29105604Not that anon but I love my WR250R.I really hope they do one with a larger engine and 35-40hp one day.
>>29105605They are never making that bike again, I have one and also adore it. If hotrods or whatever the company is still in business in a few years, I want to build a big bore + stroker crank kit.
>>29104186it doesnt need 4 ride modes and all the other lame electronic shit. ABS is fine i guess, because i think that might be required in some places for new bikes. fuel injection was inevitable, but a carb would still be better.they are missing the appeal of the DRZ, its too complicated now and costs too much. DRZ's are supposed to be cheap, reliable bikes. that's it.
>>29105608Based. What size is your tool tube? I've been meaning to make one of those.
>>29105618I just bought the pro cycle kit because I am overworked and the mental effort of putting together a DIY kit was not in the cards. Jealous of your exhaust if that's a GYTR pipe, those are extinct now.
>>29104268fuel injection is a downgrade
>>29105620Oh cool, I didn't know there was a kit. I might get that too, same issue I never have time for things. It is indeed a GYTR, previous owner installed it. You can still get them new in Australia directly from Yamaha. Pretty expensive though.
>>29105284The point is to throw street tires on and get hektik wid stuntz jumping off curbs doing wheelies and hooligan shit
>>29105594Suzuki shillcarburetor is better
>>29105631Why is carburetion better?
>>29105354these maintenance intervals are for niggers that wring the shit out of their engines, if you're just putting down trails or coasting on the highway it lasts considerably longer
>>29105640Because God created the carburetor on the 3rd day and you can fix any issue no mater how long your journey.KickstartCarburetedNo batteryand Suzuki should make a 400 aircooled engine instead.
>>29105640>fuel inceljected>sensor goes bad>limp dick mode>chadburetor>you want gas>I'll give you gass lmao>brrrrrr
>>29105653>carburetor>intake leak>doesn't go anywhere anymore
>>29105651Just buy a dr650 and jerk yourself off with the kickstarter. >>29105622For that fucking price I'll buy a second stock can and cut it open and drill the cat out.>>29105653Fuel injection has been around for decades. If you're abusing your shit bad enough to make sensors fail out of the blue, a carb would also give you trouble, as would the rest of the bike.
>>29105668>If you're abusing your shit bad enough to make sensors fail out of the bluesensorsfuel pumpinjectorsrandom electrical bullshit that stumps forums for decadesretarded voltage issues
>>29105671All that fucks with carbed bikes too, especially japshit with their vacuum operated petcocks that never really work straight.
>>29105672except the >no sensor>no fuel pump>no injectors (I guess jets get clogged but I'd still rather remove a float bowl than an injector on the trail.>next to no electrical bullshit besides the odd easily diagnosed magneto issue.
>>29105701Your carbed bike has no kickstand switches, clutch lever switches, kill switch, variable ignition timing paired with a throttle position sensor, etc? Must be some slow ancient piece of shit.
>>29105718>Your carbed bike has no kickstand switches, clutch lever switches, kill switch, variable ignition timingMy 1987 Moto Guzzi California 3 had all of that, which I disabled because they kept giving me constant issues.Variable ignition timing with points ignition is usually some sort of centrifugal advance in the dizzy that maybe sorta oughta work
>>29104186I don't think about it.
>>29105730Anon, it's Italian electronics, what the fuck did you expect?
>>29105756Yeah it was a pain in the ass, the super oc donut steel armature removal tool was like 100 bucks, it was a lefthand threaded bolt with a long rod in the front if memory serves. Made my own bolt for 5 bucks.I've had the same shit happen on my jap bikes too.Vacuum operated fuel taps for example are a major pain in the ass, followed by their fucking stupid fuel pumps for carbed bikes that tend to shit themselves every now and then.My references being the honda cbr hurricane I had and the yamaha dragstar I went to look at at the local bike stealership, which was completely fucked electronics wise.
As much as I love the the DRZ400, carburetors fucking suck, I got so tired of messing with them over the years, I just want to hit the starter button and go these days.
>>29105604I wouldnt touch any enduro class to begin with. Theyre shit.Im talking about class 8 baja and youre showing up with a rally kitted fiesta. Theyre both technically setup for "offroad racing" but you didnt understand the application form.
>>29105653>fall over on the trail>floods and play start roulette to see if the battery will leave you stranded before it fires up>go up a mountain and it runs like shit>go any longer than 6 months without riding and the carb gets gummed up
>>29105955>falls overIs this a common issue for you when riding?>"battery"Whats that?>go up a mountainHe thinks hes running Pikes Peak...>gummed up carbIf you cant spend 20 seconds to drain the carb when unloading it in the garage then thats on you
>>29105955>go any longer than 6 months without riding and the carb gets gummed upI bought a bike that sat for 20 years, just drained out the old fuel and kicked it to life with fresh gas. Started on the 3rd kick, Runs like a champ.
>>29105718Have a cup holder with your dualsport faggot
>>29105987>>"battery">Whats that?we are so deep into ebike derangement that people on modern bikes larp about having kickstarts and no alternator
>>29105987Anywhere more interesting to ride than your inbred family compound's cornfield circle track is probably somewhere with mountains you fucking retarded faggot. And yeah, dumb stuff happens on actually interesting singletrack, people will tip the bike or loop it etc on occasion.
>>29106326Retarded 15 minute city baiting jewnigger faggot urban tracks will NEVER measure up to Maple Valley.
>>29106326Fucking poser.
>>29104282Yeah, my KLR is better than any other non r bike
>>29106216Don't give me ideas anon
>>29104186>dumb>heavy>stinks>loud>have to do maintenance regularly>have to (((register))) and (((insure))) itJust get an ebike.
>>29106692Can a Surron do the Trans-America trail or a BDR, you fucking moron? How about even a 150 mile loop through OHV trails and then hitting the highway back home?
>>29105886>carburetors fucking suckFalse information
>>29106723True/false: would this bike be better with automatically adjusting AFR and an accelerator pump?
>>29105987yes falling over is a core part of riding single track in the mountains. Also kick start on a hill is a pain in the ass, especially if your kicking side is the one holding you up
>>29105987>>29106749forgot image
>>29106729No I'm a masochistThe accelerator pump would be nice, the offroad model came with a highly praised pumper carb, the TM33. It's a common swap.
>>29105955>floodsit should flood if you have your overflow routed correctly.The rest is just fake news.
>>29105955>>29106778*shouldn't
>>29106376'murica
>>29106750Lol.Post a video of you riding around.I want to see this 2nd gear snorefest.
>>29106819>>29106778Every single FCR39 will flood when the bike is on its side for any real length of time. >>29107100Lotta talk for not a single picture of your own bike being posted
>>29107100i dont have a gopro but this is basically the type of stuff i ride https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRIbMiJz7DA
>>29107126On my bike there's a little T connector so the fuel just flows out to the ground if the carb floods on its side.Can you turn off the petcock?
Not terrible https://youtu.be/Rhw7rpzOIag
>>29107464If you can get to the petcock you can just pick the bike up, most bikes with FCR39s are very light. The problem is when you went ass over teakettle trying to hop a log on an uphill or something, and you wanna just lie there for a minute or two and make sure all your pieces are still in place.
>>29107534Now imagine if it had a 6th gear
