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Does awd even do anything on asphalt?
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>>29105827
Yes - AWD increases understeer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6bf7Gtrtus
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>>29105827
I have had a FWD, RWD, & AWD and AWD is only noticeable on wet asphalt. On dry unless you have like 350+ horsepower or are driving like Colin McRae you arent going to have any noticeable effect, in fact between the added weight and understeer it may even make you slower. It is great in the rain though but I cant advise driving in the rain fast enough to feel it in full.
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>>29105827
Reduces wheelspin, you can see the benefits on launch and hairpin exit. The more power engine has the more useful it is.
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>>29105829
Yup. If you're having enough grip issues that AWD noticeably speeds up a normal car, you should probably be worried about your ability to steer and stop, or the danger your car is to other road users with its shitty tires.
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>>29105827
>those curb weights
>2 of those cars are 4 cylinders and one is a three cylinder
who the fuck is buying these cars?
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Makes your car feel sluggish and gay.
It’s great in the wet though.
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>>29105860


All those cars are incredibly mexican
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Damn that's a poor showing for a rare ass special edition from one single model year with 209 built for US market
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>>29105913
It did way better than the GR Corolla because they benchmark'd the GM Alpha chassis.
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Yes, it makes a big difference.
There are many different types and implementations of AWD so keep that in mind. Some are on all the time, some aren't, some have limited slip diffs, some are symmetrical, etc..
-Increases traction from a stop.
-Safer than RWD. In a RWD they can step out on you if one wheel gets too much torque impulse, that's pretty much not happening with RWD.
-Changes handling dynamics at the limit. Most tend to understeer, but with enough power and a good AWD system you can use it to rotate the car more into corners, but not as aggressively as RWD so you're less likely to spin.
-You can use more throttle in corners than in FWDs on similar tires, that's a big draw. You feel like the tires are clawing their way through the corner as you ride with throttle just before it breaks traction.
-It reduces your fuel economy, has more power loss in the drivetrain, and adds weight.
If you drive at the traction limit, you'll definitely notice and it's preferable to FWD. If you drive a normal person, you probably won't. Then throw driver aids and adaptive safety systems in, and normies definitely won't benefit.
You only notice the difference when you're on the throttle, it's not magic traction sauce, so people sometimes trust it too much [in snow / rain].
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I bet you AWD haters can't fathom the benefits of torque either
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>>29106094
>-Safer than RWD. In a RWD they can step out on you if one wheel gets too much torque impulse, that's pretty much not happening with RWD.
"not happening with AWD."
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>>29105827
>average affordable awd cars
>the literal state of the art, most overengineered and best fwd platform ever made (and possibly the last)
hmm
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>>29106094
>You can use more throttle in corners than in FWDs on similar tires
this is a big one for me. i felt like i could do way, way more corner acceleration than i could in any rwd ive ever driven
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>>29106096
AWD stops becoming a benefit once you start doing track days.
It's more of a fuck boy crutch for bad drivers.
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Not in any of those cars
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>>29106122
>A track only autist
>Implying AWD is bad
Ngmi minmaxfag

You only perfer RWD because you lack the skills to adapt to anything else
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>>29105829
>AWD is only noticeable on wet asphalt
This is my experience too. We don't have snow here though.
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Really depends on the chassis. I can't for the life of me get power down in first and second gear in my Saab OG 9-3, a notoriously torque steer heavy platform. Accelerating out of corners als takes a careful balance of throttle and steering input, moreso than my old 2001 Impreza. That car felt a lot more natural and confidence inspiring, just slightly back off the throttle at the point of understeer and the car would turn in more by itself. The Saab feels like you're constantly fighting it to go where you want it to go.



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