Why do they feae cheap chinese EVs so much? I want my $30k BYD FFS.
I don't want Chinese cars on the road. I don't want my neighbor plugging a Chinese car into a high voltage charger in his garage
Because why would you buy anything else over a chinese car if you can?
>>29106748because I don't want a chinese car
Simply because they're cheaper than most other new cars. They're also abysmal elephant shit, but that's a story for another day.
>>29106743cowardscompetition is good for consumerstariffs are ok, ban is gay
>>29106754>They're also abysmal elephant shit,like every other new car
>>29106743Good, ban all China mobiles.
>>29106743>Chinese foreign ministry has previously urged the United States "to respect the laws of the market economy and principles of fair competition.What the fuck do the China boys know about fair competition kek.Their entire economy revolves around stealing IP and massive subsidies from their Communist party.
>>29106794americas entire economy revolves around corporations selling out their countrymen to outsource slave labor to asia. the usa created this problem, don't be mad china is now cutting out the middlemen
>>29106788Sadly.
>>29106747Now you understand why gas car bans are happening.
>>29106743Because the Chinese are planning to do what they've done with plenty of other industries over the past few decades. Using state controlled funding, they'll produce cars to be sold at a loss across several different brands. The target market will start to buy largely Chinese made vehicles because cost is the driving factor of purchases for the vast, vast majority of consumers. Once the local manufacturers have been driven to irrelevancy, they will jack up the prices in order to turn a profit and repay the Chinese government. Now the victim-nation has no manufacturing or economic viability to produce cars anymore, and will be completely reliant on imports. I would ban them too, you lose a great deal of your sovereignty as a nation when you give up domestic manufacturing of vital goods, as well as many paying jobs, and national culture for the US especially
>>29106802/Threadx6milliondedlittlehatswesntenough
>>29106897Hahaha deluded propaganda brainwashed dipshit
>>29106802>usa cumon now
My liveleak doctorate tells me we shouldn't import these lithium time-bombs if possible
>Western safety agencies had to revise their scoring systems just to track how poorly Chinese cars do and how shoddily they're madeThink of the biggest piece of shit to ever roll out of Detroit. Now make it ten times worse in every way.
>>29106897Funny that China has never jacked up rates and their products are cheap in China as well.Face it, the Chinese are just willing to work 4 times as hard for 1/4th the wage and they’re smart enough to continually improve their processes so their products get better and better, and nobody else can keep up.They’ll eventually get fat and lazy but right now they’re where the US was from the Industrial Revolution to the 1960’s where this nation was built, only they have the advantage of modern engineering and having been able to “check their work” against 100+ years of European and American refinement, so it only took them 30 years to catch up and they’ve still got fire in their bellies so now they’re out-innovating everyone.
Any ban on Chinese dumping should be congruent with a ban on importing with your label. MF just want to keep being the middle man.
>>29106743Based, you can’t compete with a country where people are bugs that get paid nothing or we enter the race to the bottom and become bugs, we are genetically superior to them and don’t deserve to live like they do, so we must separate our economies
>>29106958jeeps literally catch fire while parked and engine off>>29107105the entire western economy is built on rent-seeking.
>>29106743>Why do they feae cheap chinese EVs so much?I do not want a chinese EV fire hazard parked NEXT DOOR to my house.
It's almost like we're in economic competition or something. OP, lay off the playstation.
>>29107246>those showers of sparksThat's actually really cool to see. From the other side of the planet desu.
>>29107246nobody ever talks about the real use case for these lithium powered EVs which is that they make great mobile crematoriums. at a moments notice they'll flash cook up to a gross of urban liberal dipshits in under 30 seconds.
>>29106743>I want my $30K BYDDude if they're going through this much effort to control how they're reviewed and presented to the public, their cars are going to be shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBbiCrsk7RM
>>29107452western companies do this constantly too thoughbeit
>>29107538>>29106802Same grammar and whataboutism.
>>29106743Why do you shills never shut the fuck up about EVs? I'd rather a $10k, turbocharged, manual transmission car I can thrash and throw away after a few years. Miss me with that EV bullshit.
>>29107020>their products get better and better, and nobody else can keep up.You lost me there
>>29107549>whataboutism.Nobody cares about this outside of reddit
>>29106743You sound like a homo. All bev are an eventual uncontrolled fire, china ones are worse.
>>29107392The question is, why do I have to wait so long before I see an EV driver get cremated alive?
>>29106743>Why do they feae cheap chinese EVs so much?Before you get one, some parking garages and apartment complex parking areas do have restrictions for such vehicles. So check to see if you can park that thing where you want to park it AND also check if you are allowed to charge it at that location as well.
>>29106905>>29107020Lol, fuck off chinks. And stay out of my trashcans you ugly little rats.
>>29106743$30k is not cheap.
I'll bet if you buy some random Chinese cars off a lot and do crash testing, they will fail several categories that were ostensibly passed during official testing. They definitely degrade the build quality of their cars after they got their stars.
>>29107965I bet it's even worse for American and European cars.
>>29107787 >>29106743>$30k is not cheap.The most basic (entry-level) all-electric passenger vehicle made by BYD for the Chinese domestic market is the BYD Seagull (also branded as the Dolphin Mini or Atto 1 in some export regions). The Official MSRP (China) is 69,800 RMB for the entry-level Active / Vitality trim which is approx $9,800 USD. However, they frequently have price-discounting at the dealerships which then makes the price range from about $8,000 to $9,000 USD. Please note that this basic price is for the standard Chinese version which does NOT meet either European or USA NHTSA standards. Export models of this EV are actually modified with additional structural support, metal thickness, and safety features to meet minimum safety requirements and that drives the price up to about $26K USD.
>>29106748Because I want an actual car, not a data-mining smartphone on wheels.
>>29106743Only boomers are against Chinese made products. I personally think Chinese products are better quality, my black girlfriend agrees with me
>>29107020>work 4 times as hard for 1/4th the wage and they’re smartLolLMAO EVEN What a goytard! Why wouldn't you bargain for more if you are worth more? Their workers can't afford shit.
u fear my cheep fast eevee rite now china numbah wan
>>29107020>are just willing to work 4 times as hard for 1/4th the wageNo, they're willing to be exploited sixteen times as hard as an American worker, The reason manufacturing saw China as an attractive destination is because Chinese workers were uneducated and had weak labour protection laws, and weren't allowed to unionize. This is not something to be proud of. Wage arbitrage essentially contributes to human misery.
>>29108130the 60kwh dolphin sits at around 400€ a month /48 months herethat is actually terrible
>>29107775Jesus
USA and Europe have literally no talent, so they cannot compete with China's automobiles.
Aw shit you have attracted the chinkbots.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG2ZNT7z9O8
>>29108340I don't mind their laptops and TVs but I aint never driving a Chinese car sorry.
>>29107549>grammar on 4chankekalso i would never use the term 'thoughbeit' as that's some tryhardest faggiest zoomer forced memespeak fagspeak from that CIA tranny infested honeyshitpot shartshitsite
>>29108130currently 13,871.06 USD where i live for the cheapest BYD, test drove it a few weeks back reminded me of electric go karts
>>29108408What happened there?
>>29109272Brake denied.
>>29106794>subsidiesHow come they seemingly have infinite amounts of subsidies? Where do they get so much money? Or is this just cope?
>>29106743because it harms shareholder profits, thereby this is literally worse than the holocaust and if you support letting them in you're worse than hitler
>>29108167This, thays really the core of it all, the burgers want you driving their dog approved botnet instead of the chink botnet
>>29109358>dogZog
>>29109299https://eletric-vehicles.com/byd/byd-received-12-5-billion-yuan-in-chinese-government-subsidies-in-2025-filing-shows/https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/chinas-chery-byd-may-repay-023307895.htmlkeynesian economics >>29109358>burgers want you supporting their economyshocker
>>29109264>test drove it a few weeks back reminded me of electric go kartsRegardless of batteries, a car that feels like a go-kart doesn't seem safe if a collision occurs. That light weight feeling from a minimal frame and minimum legal thickness of its sheet metal body suggests that it would crumple up even at lower speeds.
>>29109292>Brake denied.Xiomi also had a myriad number of problems with its electric car. They tried hard to get such news censored too.
>>29107538non chinese companies don't have slaves build their cars. Only the chinese use slaves,
>>29106743The real American leaders don't want cheap cars to be available, they want and need mutts overpaying for cars. They want and need mutts to overpay for everything and mutts gladly will because they are buck broken.
>>2910813026k shekels puts it at the price range of entry trim normal cars in the US, I'd buy a chinky car if it was a ridiculous value otherwise fuck off
>>29106897So which product's price has been jacked up over the years? Any examples?
Forget EVs the chinese gasoline cars will destroy the domestic car market. When I was in Mexico almost all new cars were Chinese and for about $12,000 USD you got a fully loaded econobox on par with a mid 2000s honda fit that makes the Mitsubishi Mirage look like complete trash
>>29109491>Mexico almost all new cars were Chinesefunny, i was in cdmx 2 years ago and they were all nissans or volkswagensnissan versas are the most common car there, hell nissan is alive as a car company solely because of mexico
>>29109431>I'd buy a chinky car if it was a ridiculous valueThe problem is that even in China, they take shortcuts to save costs whenever they can and don't honor warranties if they can get away with it in their local area. For example, chinese cars submitted for crash tests might even use NON-OEM parts from other cars.
>>29110094>they take shortcuts to save costs whenever they can and don't honor warranties if they can get away with itI'll take it, its not like big name companies here aren't making crap but more expensive Honda's 1.5T has been around since 2016 and theyre barely acknowledging this is a problem and offering a long 150K warranty on the head gasket, which means they've been ducking and dodging fixing it for 10 fucking years, I dont know how much worse chinkmobiles can possibly be, becsuse you can't even buy your way into a reliable car anymore, at least if my chinky car breaks, its so cheap that its not worth fixing, someone with a late model Accord is literally stuck with the choice of ruin your life a little getting a $5000 head hasket done becsuse the car is top expensive to replace, or ruin yoyr children's life becsuse you replaced the expensive ass car that for some reason isnt designed well enough to not break catastrophically.Bring on the chinks, I wanna whip my fucking car around with no fucks because I can afford to replace it.
>>29110321>its so cheap that its not worth fixingIt's an acknowledged "truth" in the Chinese car market that their cars are made for a limited lifespan. But please don't confuse DURABILITY with PRODUCT SAFETY. That particular Honda model might not have reliable head gaskets in all serial number cohort production runs for that engine, but at least the Honda cars have product safety in mind.
>>29108598OUTTA MY WAY 0.5% DISCOUNT AT RAT MEAT MARKET!
>>29106743>I want my $30k BYD FFS.That is way-overpriced for a non-luxury model BYD car EV or not. BYD also uses the cheaper to manufacture blade batteries which similar to those flat rectangular pack batteries. Tesla uses the metal case cylindrical batteries and even runs coolant or heated fluid around them as needed.>>29110431>OUTTA MY WAY 0.5% DISCOUNT AT RAT MEAT MARKET!They still have market stalls selling dog and cat meat. Occasionally, you see (at other forums) videos of people even kidnapping dogs out of their own yards for the meat market which may end up in the street food.
BYD saves on cost by having just one wiper, but its sweep range needs to be larger. Or this demo of the wiper was faulty as its maximum range is about what you see in the picture.
>>29110767Worked for the Twingo.But BYD is also saving on the rear wiper by making the window tiny.
Prime Minister Carney signed an agreement with China to allow 40,000 EV cars per year to come in at only 6.1% tariff. As a result, BYD is developing 20 dealership locations in Canada along with a parts distribution network. With the expected successful sales of low-priced BYD, as time allows it to develop, it can serve as the beach head for future expansion into the USA.
>>29107256Who is "we"? I've been told over and over by rightoids that "there is no such thing as society".
>>29106794>Their entire economy revolves around [...] massive subsidiesWait, so supposedly the chinese workers slave away and pay taxes so that the chinese government can subsidize chinese cars for us to buy at a loss for them?So basically we would be getting unlimited chinese slave labor for free? How is that a bad thing?Or are you making it up?
>>29110809Twingo has that funny gigalong wiper blade and a pantograph mechanism to extend the sweep range, BYD didn't bother.
>>29106743then move to china
>>29111370>How is that a bad thing?Because it kills off your local and other non-chinky car industries.And then you are left at a complete mercy of the CCP.
>>29111514>extend the sweep range, >BYD didn't bother.It's an important safety feature to stop the driver from craning their neck to peer through the clear spot. This cost-cutting attitude of BYD for safety suggests there are other safety or reliability or durability shortcuts in each vehicle.
americans finally realizing that they cannot survive in an actually free market, kekw kwabxd
>>29106743because protectionism is always beneficial for the working class. Globalism and new world order is a Jewish trick to funnel more money to the wealthy/Jews while killing off the middle class. Embrace tradition, embrace countries manufacturing their own shit.>>29106897also this.
>>29114710Why countries? Wouldn't it be beneficial if each US State was protectionist against the others? Could actually be done at county level actually. 3,000+ regions each being autonomous rather than relying on commerce with others
>>29114717>Wouldn't it be beneficial if each US State was protectionist against the others?no because no single state has everything to be self sufficient. As a whole the usa can be self sufficient. As parts it can't be.
>>29114721Well, maybe not taxes for everything but at least for everything that can realistically be obtained or developed in every state?Every state can grow food, turn plastic pellets into plastic parts through injection, turn sand into glass, make alloys from basic elements, so on and so forth.If you illegalize or heavily tax inner commerce of food, parts, etc workers in every state will be better off. Some raw materials or super advanced products (electronics?) might need to be off the taxes though.Like do you actually think it's impossible for any particular state to have a factory make cars and truck by pressing steel and bolting on supplied parts? I don't. Once the factory is set up, you can start taxing individual components so every factory in each state also gets parts made in their own state, and so on. Undoubtedly (and I'm not being ironic) that would be beneficial for the workers of those car factories, and those of the car part factories
>>29106743>30kWhat? I figured they'd be a lot less, what's the appeal of these over a cheaper Korean or Japanese car?
>>29106897>Once the local manufacturers have been driven to irrelevancyIsn't that already what they've largely done to themselves? Foreign brands already own the majority share of vehicle sales in the US if you exclude pickup trucks.
>>29114749Electricity costs are PLANNED (not just estimated) to go 29% higher in the next 3 years in my area. Since the cost increases are scheduled, this means those Chinese EV cars aren't as big a bargain as one thinks.
>>29106889Stop being such a faggot, it's not funny. For a gas car to catch on fire you have to fuck up really, really bad. For an EV to catch on fire, you have to short the battery pack. There's a large number of ways this can happen. And you can't trust changs to take care of all of those. Those motherfuckers can't even clone a carburetor reliably.
>>29115779Gas cars are already poisoning everybody by regular use.
>>29106743U vill buy ze german car; ze best or ze nothingNissann hayaku ハコスカ o erandeFord F-150 Pedestrian Predator for 999$/month with leasing financingWhich way American Man?
>>29108408CCP criticism has been detected, your social credit score has fallen, your Xiaomi SU7 breaks have been disabled.
>>29115779I don't want a gas car in my neighborhood polluting my air, making noise, and leaking oil everywhere.
>>29115829China doesn't have social credit, unlike the USA.
>>29106897>Once the local manufacturers have been driven to irrelevancy, they will jack up the prices in order to turn a profit and repay the Chinese government.That's the thing though... China is stupid when it comes to this part of capitalism. They DON'T jack up prices after they run everyone else out of business. They just keep pumping out cheap goods.
>>29106743It's all part of the plan to bleed the USA dry.Importing cheap 3rd world labor is great and we should do that as much as possible, but importing cheap consumer goods is LE BAD because the gdp number might go down.
