besides subaru front overhang monster system there is nothing better. like what the fuck is all this uneven axle shit, or axle through oil pan with the engine jacked the fuck up man get the fuck out of here. its all a mistake.
Part time 4x4 is the best, with a mechanical transfer, mechanical lever, manual front wheel hubs and manual gearbox.
>>29107492Not bad, similar to my Suzuki.
>>29107689Suzi is a slant 4 so front driveshaft goes closer to the center than pic shows
it aint matter
>>29107702why is the driveshaft curved to fit into the rear engine? that seems like it would be really bad for long term stability
>>29107492>uneven axle shit, or axle through oil panwho cares? it doesn't make any differenceyou're probably the same faggot who spergs about mcdonalds all day like it fucking matters
>>29107705idk probably to avoid some resonance in the U joints.the older lamborgs have their propshaft underneath the crankshaft, Center of gravity be dammed.
>>29107705the shaft is balanced so it won't affect anything. driveshafts are usually at an angle even if it's just 1° because as it spins the needle rollers in the spider bearings all spin too and even out the wear, as well as spreading grease around
>>29107711The propshaft is pretty much inline with the crank, it isn't compromising center of mass much if at all.
>>29107492>what the fuck is all this uneven axle shit, or axle through oil pan with the engine jacked the fuck up man get the fuck out of hereumm broWhat do you think is happening here?
>>29107705something about driveshafts being perfectly straight causes issues
how is the evo x system? and is something like a haldex 3 or 4 from a volvo s40 even worth having? i know whatever awd in the volvo 850s nowadays none of them are hooked up and everyone runs them fwd cuz its too expensive to maintain for hundreds of thousands of miles.
BMW solved AWD with xDrive.
>>29107721They wear the uni bearings if there's zero rotation and it just sits there hammering the same spot
>>29107502>wheel hubsYou don’t need those, that’s just a MPG issue, millions of solid axle jeeps are on the road with no locking hubs, the axle is always engaged, you only switch the transfer case
>>29107502>mechanical>mechanical>manual>manualWhat does it matter if the driveshaft goes to the diff at a weird angle and the front left axle is a different length compared to the right? It's all a huge mess.
>>29107779i learned things todaythanks anons
>>29107702>crooked driveshaftTrash design. This Subaru system is the purest one. I don't even shill Subarus it just hit me today.
>>29107799Now show the front half shafts
>>29107807Could have sworn I was already looking at them in this picture of the drivetrain. They look nice and equal length and symmetrical.
>>29107814Are you sure they're not.... a little CROOKED anon?
>>29107819Omg I see it now. Okay so there's no pure awd systems. It's all a bunch of rube goldberg cope shit.
>>29107822Take the Jesse Pinkman pill
>>29107825That character was a pussy THOUGH
>>29107825That looks pretty bad I don't like it. I only like the Subaru one but I just found out that's crooked too
>>29107828it is pretty bad but it's cool in its own quirky way
ultimate awd
>>29107852I wonder if anyone has ever build a vehicle which has a radial engine inside the wheel
>>29107853Ah yep
>>29107853I'm 100% sure I've seen some one off prototypes like that
>>29107746>how is the evo x system?looks bad
>>29107853Paul Moller makes some tiny rotors that seem sort of that size.
>>29107779> it just sits there hammering the same spotHey, you don't have to talk about me!
>>29107492Yeah...
>>29107492Draw one that doesn't and i will pick bone with it
>>29107705because it sits on a different rotational axis and doesnt fuck with the rest of the engine
>>29107852>>29107853>>29107860Unsprung weight is the enemy of enjoyment.
>>29107502You forgot twin stick
>>29107853You can build a vehicle right now with 4 ebike kit wheels. As someone already said there would be a lot of unsprung weight, unless you can make the tires springy.I have a small 1000w motor on my ebike and it slams around. Wheel is not a good place to have weight.
>>29107751>shreds ur transfer case
>>29108178look man I didn't say it would be good I just wanted to know if anyone had ever done it
>>29107717If the driveshaft runs UNDER the crank it makes the engine sit higher. If you run beside the crank the engine can sit lower. Pretty simple.
>>29107502>manual front wheel hubsnot this, getting out in the mud and snow sucks
>>29107906
>>29107492>subaruAlfa made the best system ever, dummy.
Wait until you see a defender with both axles having the ring and pinion offset to the right hand side.
>>29107492Ditch the Transfer case.Put a transverse mid-engine in the back and a pair of electric motors in the front with a battery pack in the middle.
>awdmeme
Quattro.
>>29108372this looks like the same shit as the subaru
anything with the engine forward of the front axle should be referred to, going forward, as Gay Wheel Drive (GWD)
>>29108203It's right there beside the crank, are you blind
>>29108497It is.
Oops!
>>29108497The good AWD systems from Subaru and Audi are laid out similarly, yeah.The problem is that most Quattros are not like that, most have transverse engines and a bunch of transfer bullshucks. And not all Subarus get their good system either (esp auto/CVT ones) but they’re generally still longitudinal with a simpleish symmetrical setup at least.
>>29107492Why is it always Subaru that draws ire from you fags for engine overhang when literally every transverse FWD/AWD car ever hangs the entire engine and most of the transaxle in front of the front axles too? Never hear pissing and moaning about those yet they're by far the most prevalent layout for the vast majority of cars on the road.
Mid engine AWD, anyone?
>>29108645only A3 and TT have transverse engines
>>29108671Yeah but then your engine has to look like this
>>29107492don worry there is the rear overhang monster system
>>29107825I had a 81 Tercel 3A 5 speed fwd was pretty good. Got great gas mileage.
>>29108893Based CoG optimizer.
>>29108067I wish I knew how to improve the ride quality without reducing unsprung weight which is impossible in my case. Stronger shocks? Softer springs? harder springs? It's all a trade off one for the other bullshit. Seriously wondering how I can retrofit a citroen style hydro-pneumatic system to my car.
>>29109260With semi trailing IRS just as god intended
>>29109265Yeah but then your engine makes 100kw and there's nothing you can do to upgrade it
