American Full-Size SUVs seem completely pointless. They're as long & cumbersome as Full Size Vans without having the cargo space of Full Size Vans.An SUV is supposed to give you slightly less cargo space & slightly worse gas mileage vs. a minivan in exchange for offroad capability & greater ground clearance. A 7 Seat Land Cruiser or 7 Seat Land Rover is a proper SUV.
>>29120468>A 7 Seat Land Cruiser or 7 Seat Land Roveryea, just dish out 100k for the land cruiser or 120k for the land rover range rover or buy a 7 seat suburban for half the price. the current 60k land cruiser on the american market doesn't even come with a 3rd row. the older land cruisers that did were almost 100k and probably go for nearly that much used with 100k miles on them.utility vans like transits or chevy expresses are far less comfortable unless it's a minivan. and minivans don't have proper 4WD systems.there's a reason the suburban is popular. there is no real rival to it except for the expedition. it doesn't directly compete with the land cruiser or range rover, and outsells both combined in the US market.
>>29120485The Lexus GX & Land Rover Discovery have 3rd rows.
>>29120490they also don't have better ground clearance than a high country/Z71 trim suburban. so what is even the point.
>>29120502They can actually go offroad.
>>29120468Suburban is sexo
>>29120536so can the suburban.
>>29120468Why do all of these new full sized suv's have this weird banana shape to them? Can't they just make a straight line?
>>29120546that's the tahoe, not the suburban.
>>29120548the Tahoe would be even better, with improved breakover angles
>>291204903 row midsizes are compromises though. You have to choose between having the 3rd row or any usable cargo space. A full size has double as much cargo space behind the 3rd row.
>>291205653 rows are always compromised, third row is always the shit row for people you dislike. if it matters, just take two cars and you'll have more flexibility
>>29120569>3 rows are always compromisedIf you're talking about SUVs, yes, but not in terms of Minivans/Vans.
>>29120553Tahoes have low-range/rear locking differentials like nissan armadas/patrols, land cruisers & land rovers. Suburbans are Tall Station Wagons, not offroad vehicles.
>>29120569You've missed the point entirely. Of course a full size 3 row SUV is a compromise. It's a compromise because "taking multiple vehicles everywhere for everything" isn't a viable option. So you compromise and get one big car with lots of space. By choosing a 3 row midsize SUV, you're compromising on what's already a compromise. How is that better?
>>29120579suburbans are long wheelbase tahoes
>>29120579The same packages are available on Suburbans, with the bonus of being able to fit 4x8 sheets of plywood behind the second row of seats when the third row is folded.
>>29120577You tried to prove this last thread. A Suburban has more third row legroom, headroom and shoulder room than a minivan. >>29120639The Suburban came first. A Tahoe is just a sawed off Suburban and they make no sense imo.
>>29120468The high ride height and heavy weight means you will win any collision. It's just safer. Do you want your children to die in a crash? Then get rid of that gook slopbox and get a real American car.
>>29120468i need the hauling and toeing capacity. Your shit little EV could never compare
>>29120682Why do americans constantly talk about how many sheets of plywood fit in their car? Why not just have a flatbed truck deliver a dozen pallets all at once?
>>29120547>Why do all of these new full sized suv's have this weird banana shape to them?aerodynamics and crash safety
>>29120784Because we don't always need multiple pallets of sheet goods??? Why would I take time off work to schedule a delivery when I can just stop by the home depot on the way home from the office? Is this why you people are so poor?
>>29120788What are you doing that you need such large panels of plywood, but only two or three of them at a time? And why specifically always individual loose but large sheets of plywood and not glass or plexiglass, rolls of sheeting, bundles of fabric, coils of wire, tanks of various sexual or non-sexual fluids, literal faggots of rods and rod-like objects, etc.?
>>29120803>>29120788>>29120784amerimutts need plywood to patch holes in their plywood shacks after getting so mad about chyna that they punch the walls (amerimutts are very fat but also quite strong and can easily pierce even imported 25mm hardwood plywood with their fists alone due to the genetic memory of Wheaties)
>>29120468>AI bot focused on (current year) modelsIts all so tiring.
>>29120808Post flag>you wont
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>>29120803The 4x8 thing is just a real world measure of what you can fit. Were allowed to build things like sheds, garden boxes and do repairs on our houses in the free world. It's also nice to be able to take your own 90''+ TV or flat pack furniture home. You know... free world things.
>>29120854how shit is your shed that you are building them routinely? what kind of shit ass store are you buying your tv from that it doesnt offer delivery and installation?>garden boxesbut that is what faggots of 8x8s are for???
>>29120854>It's also nice to be able to take your own 90''+ TV or flat pack furniture home.that's not plywood. americans ALWAYS measure cars in plywood. post your hands NOW
>>29120861Yes we do use plywood as a measurement because everybody knows how big a 4x8 sheet of plywood is and can use that as a reference as to what they can actually haul. It would be like you guys using a prayer rug as a measurement.
>>29120865>everybody knows how big a 4x8 sheet of plywood isbut presumably that would be the same as a 4x8 sheet of plexiglass, rolled aluminum, sheet rock, etc.? why always specifically plywood of unspecified thickness?
>>29120868Because a sheet of plywood is a pretty fucking common good? Is plywood illegal where you live or something? Why would the thickness matter? it could be one cunthair thick or it could be 6' thick. Neither are relevant if they're 4x8 and can't fit in your vehicle.
>>29120468>Full Size VansThose don't exist anymore.>without having the cargo space of Full Size Vans.Neither do conversion vans.>in exchange for offroad capability & greater ground clearanceNobody but autistic rednecks cares about that shit.People want them because they're big fucking cars that are "comfortable". No more, no less. "But it's s-supposed to b-be" guess you better update your definitions then, grandpa retard. World waits for no one.
>>29120546No, they haven't been able to go off-road in a long time. Since the GMT800 days.
>>29120877i could fit more cunthair thick plywood in my car than i could 1/2inch plywood assuming it is the standard 4x8 Board one would think volume rather than area is the more important metric, especially since building things out of plywood sheets of that size is rare enough that realistically i would probably prefer to have a large volume of them delivered by a larger truck than i would care to own, or i am engaged in crafts or cottage industry where narrower boards or square beams would be preferableare american sheds just so shit that they fall down every day so every american needs a constant stream of 4x8 boards to rebuild the sheds they live in?
>>29120893>metricFUCK OFF
>>29120468A Benz long sprinter van you European are obsessed with, both equally terrible at what they do are longer than American full size SUV's.
