Come and discuss the Mazda Roadster / MX-5 / Miata and related topics.Original Edition.Old thread>>>29125211
>>29134453>Original Edition.All right!
>39 days left until deliveryI think I'll get a heart attack before I see me car
Met an original ten minutes ago on a burger run
>>29134592I wish I could eat a burger but I would likely end up back in the hospital if I did right now.
Poor pic quality, but here you go. Last 30 min.
>>29134453Shiny, pure, smol
>>29134464I know the feeling I had to leave work early the day before for mine because I just couldn't think about anything else.
>>29134955This was me when I took delivery of mine after it made it to its new home from California. I basically ran to the drop off spot after I got home. Left work hours early
>>29134955 I must have watched a hudred youtube videos of it by now.When I get it home, I'm just gonna grab a stool and a bag of chips, then eat my chips while staring at it
i like my gay blue car
>>29127770Good morning, looking good.
Safety pocket!
Safety pocket night time
>>29135108Can I see it?
Koni or bilstein shocks for an NA?
>>29135336How about black OEM base model dampers and black OEM base model springs.
>>29135338Previous owner put garbage coilovers on and I just want something nice but sporty. Besides, original springs are long gone
>>29135340>Besides, original springs are long goneGo to the dealer and buy the stuff. You are supporting Mazda. The black dampers ride the best but nobody will tell you that.
>>29135336There is no magic shock for NA or NB to start off, it's not the worst suspension setup in the world but it just isn't very good either. There just isn't much travel. Bilsteins don't work well for the miata, it ruins the character imo. Maybe they can be revalved or something but they always felt way way too firm. It would actually be kinda pleasant on a nice road (but firm, like you added psi to your tires), but then you'd have a small dip or two in the road and BAM, you'd feel a crash even with stiff springs. Koni yellows are... better. I could see running these with lowering springs as stockish shocks just won't hold up to the heavier springs but it's still a little too harsh for my tastes. Adjustable damping but for a DD who the fuck wants to mess with damping. Now Koni Special Actives are particularly interesting, the damping tightens up when you're doing low frequency things (braking, cornering, normal fun car things) but loosens up when you hit potholes and such. Not perfect still but it's about as good as it gets if you just want a comfy daily driver. These don't work with lowering springs. I would probably run these if I had $600 to blow. Also just to add, lowering the car is retarded as lowering it anymore than an inch and you can't even jack the thing up without ramps or wood boards. Stock is genuinely lovely if you don't have intentions of doing timed events like autox or track use. Also worth telling you if you are looking for stock springs, Mazda changed the ride height a few times. 90-93 is the lowest, 94-95 is maybe half an inch higher, 96-97 sits another extra .5-inch higher.
>>29135383I couldn't fit a jack under my current sedan or my Miata at stock height and it was low profile long reach. I always have to add a 2x4 or something close to the front wheels
What's the deal with these plastic disconnects on NB fuel filters? My NA8 just had hose clamps, I got in there and boom - plastic disconnects built into the fuel lines. Picrel, like the disconnect in red, but for the 2 hoses on the fuel filter behind it.I don't want to break them with pliers and can only get one tab pushed with my fingers, apparently there's a fuel filter disconnect tool for like $5, anyone have experience?
>>29135464Found picrel. At least if I break a clip the fuel line fitting will still be fine, there's just not a lot of room to press on the clips and have the other arm in there pulling the line at the same time.
>>29135464They started using these in the mid-late 90s across a ton of cars. Just get the disconnect tool.
>>29135464If they're what I think they are, I have them on my Suzuki. I used broken pieces of a plastic pen lid jammed in beside the pipe to remove mine.
>>29135336>>29135340If the car lives on the street, honestly, just go back to stock bro. I've messed with my car so much over the years and honestly if I could do it all over again i'd put it all back stock.
>>29135383I have the Koni Special Actives on my NB on OEM 04/05 Mazdaspeed springs. FM will tell you this combination doesn't work but I love them. It rides great, soaks up bumps well, and you can feel them tighten up on the longer sweeping turns like highway overpasses/clover leaves. I would absolutely buy them again.
Nobody cares about my safety pocket
>>29135473I suggest spraying it with brake clean then grease up your little tool before inserting it, it'll pop right off, if you try to do it dry and raw you will bend everything, break clips, and curse yourself for starting the job. Good luck.
She said my car sounded like a lawnmower, it doesn't even have an exhaust it's fukken stock you can't even hear it
I hate girls they're so stupid they don't know anything about cars
>>29135712She likes you and is trying to have funny banter. Just play along with it and you will both be happier
>ITT sex haversim out
>>29135749The only sex having itt:https://youtu.be/06BFsQ_28Co?si=hnLLoV6-M7TKD40t&t=123
>>29135546Driving behind tractor-trailers on the interstate is dangerous and on low-speed roads with stoplights like your example it's no different than driving behind any other slow car.
>>29135712She wants to fuck. Tussle in the sheets.
>>29135873>Driving behind tractor-trailers on the interstate is dangerousThat's what they want you to think, they want you ass-to-mouth in the "fast lane". They want you to accept 0 braking distance as the norm. Just remember that if the 18 wheeler simply hits the brakes a little too hard it's automatically logged to his permanent driving record and his insurance quadruples, they can't do unannounced lane changes as well they get in trouble.
Safety pocket
>>29136010You can maintain a safe distance behind any vehicle in any lane.>but people will cut inOnly if your lane is moving faster than the other lane. There's nothing wrong with driving slow with a safe following distance; stop pretending you discovered some secret driving technique. If you're maintaining ~20 miata-lengths at 60 mph you're about at the 2.5-3 second following distance typically recommended for normal conditions.You are welcome to deliberately drive behind or alongside big trucks but if you ever see a tire explode at highway speeds you will decide not to do it anymore. Just warning you.
Oh yeah... look at those massive brakes.
>>29136231>You can maintain a safe distance behind any vehicle in any lane.Legally with white morals in mind such as keeping yourself and everyone around you safe tho. You cant cheat.
>>29136247Cute brakes anon.
>>29136231>You are welcome to deliberately drive behind big trucksThis is what safety pocket theory is all about btw. Welcomeness, comfort, safety, and most of all predictability.
>>29136247>jack on the pinch weldpro tip, NA/NB miatas have a small pad on the back side of those pinch welds.
>>29136313based strength pad utilizer
>>29136313I always jack stand on the pinch welds cause I'm unsure where else to place them. I have a rubber cover for them
>>29136323>he doesn't know about the strength padsGood thing you logged in today.
>>29136323>I'm unsure where else to place themYou place them on the pads highlighted here >>29136313
>>29136337>>29136331What about for an NC...
>>29136341They have the same shit, every car does. They're called lift points.
>>29136348I guess my confusion was because some cars didn't have those reinforced and you can bend your frame. Something about the chassis designs
>>29136313I will look into that and consider it as a better choice for future endeavors. The pinch points have treated me well, I've been lifting with the diff and jackstanding the pinch welds of miatas since '08.
>>29135291>>29135292Instead what I do is drive just in front of it, just fast enough so it cant catch me, and when it starts overtaking other lorries, it will cause a pile up behind it, and the road will just clear up ahead for me.
>>29136391I will slow down before I get to the next lorry so it tries to overtake me too, lengthening the amount of time it takes the lorry to overtake, Bigger hold up for goyim behind it, more highway bliss for me
>>29136392But obviously I move off as it attempts to overtake me, all part of my evil plan
>>29135546>safety pocketSounds comfy, but looks like just 'not-tailgating'.Pic not related.
>>29136417I have never heard the term but whenever I'm on the freeway if I'm not going to pass EVERYONE I stay in the truck lane under the speed limit. If everyone is passing you they see you. Never linger next to someone who could forget you are there.
>>29136391>Instead what I do is drive just in front of itAnon that's the danger pocket
It's all in Japanese, kinda boring and over four hours long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igVehYbVpSI
>>29136617How? I nearly died when a large metal object clattered my windshield after falling off the back of one of them things. I just saw it bounce over the car in front of me, and smack my windshield. Would have hit right between my eyes. No time to react. I was like "WTF is tha-" CRACK windshield is toast.
Does anyone know if I get aftermarket wheels like rpf1, do I have to get new valve stems or can I use my tpms ones
>>29136750You need either new stems if they're rubber, or rebuild kits if they're metal
>>29136758Cool, thank you
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>>29136658Another vid from Mazda at Fuji Speedway.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WqzQzGkCNM
>>29136391The number jeet cdl that cannot read a stop sign is increasing thanks to california. Your best bet is remain at safety pockets that you anticipate sudden braking or above speed that it can accelerate towards you.
>>29137524Kino
>>29136687>I nearly died when a large metal object clattered my windshield after falling off the back of one of them things.You cant follow too closely the safety pocket isn't directly behind the 18 wheeler you have to be like at least 10 miatas away, then it's safu.
BRG is too flat of a color. No depth in the paint.
>>29136247at least you HAVE rear discs
also, miotr on dvd
>>29137636>MY HECKIN METALLIC PARKLES!!!automotive equivalent of glitter honestly
>>29137663rear discs are overrated
Anyone else ITT like miatas?
>>29137700YesJust spotted on r/miata. Looks good.
>>29137750>adjustable headrestsRare!
>>29135546It's dumb just drive faster and pass everyone who isn't paying attention or acts erratically.
>>29137700>04 MSM wheelsBeen looking for another set...
And I finished the RGR front splitter install today.
I bought a rough NA. Should I try bringing it back to stock or go more peformance oriented?I've never driven one stock so don't know how nice they ride stock.
Saw some impatient faggot in a rf (fake back window) and a na today. The rf was riding the nas bumper hard as fuck and then did this gay ass steering wheel jerk to go around him, keep in mind nobody is even around. so he whips around and zooms away without saying hi to the na which is what you're supposed to do. I was just a 3rd party observer at a gas station and I concluded that NDs are gay as fuck and designed to appeal to impotent fags, hence the angry chinkshit headlights and massive grille that's 55% blocked off.
>>29138250Why not leave any mods for the future, do maintenance, and enjoy what you have?>>29138260What? Give it a rest troll.
>>29138263>Give it a rest troll.Just an observation anon. Fuck the ND and 90% of ND drivers.
>Massive mouth gape>half of it is blocked off black plasticDisgusting and a sign of things to come
>>29138268Bumper has run through the top of the grille on Roadster for at least 15 years (NC2). It's a feature. If you don't like it, may I suggest an MG Cyberster is probably better suited.
>>29138283>Roadster for at least 15 years (NC2). It's a featureIdk why it wasn't so disturbing on the nc. Also I don't do chineese cars.
>>29137700I'm more of an MX5 guy myself.
dead threadNE confirmed cancelled!
fd isnt coming back either!
>>29138268I like the face
>>29138460I just see this
>>29138268It's a mouth guard to help with any trees and lamp posts
>>29138460I agree, the ND is a cutie
>>29138450Fiata was coded NE.
>>29138268The bumper beam has to go somewhere, anon.
>>29138260>>29138265one day you'll be able to afford an ND, anon. just keeping working hard. no need for bitch tears in the meantime, and you'll still have your cute flippy headlights until then!
>>29138741>affordI'd kms before I sat in one lol, let alone pay a penny for the experience.
>>29138598What does it have to do with the bumper beam? Why don't they just make the grile smaller and more suited for a white buyer? This open onions mouth shit with Lamborghini headlights is a mistake on a 170hp car.
>>29138752Is everything ok at home?
>>29138753>deflectingFocus my boy, I'm calling your car hideous and fake.
>>29138755>HideousIt's Halloween!
>>29138755you say that like your schizo rants hold weight
>>29138773Is the front grille not 55% blocked off? They painted it black so that it looks bigger to associate it in normie minds with lots of power that needs a lot of cooling. Hopefully they come back to their senses with the next gen.
>>29138450>NE confirmed cancelled!It's gonna come, what demographic do you think they will design it to appeal to?
>be me>most powerful Miata ever made in the Hiroshima plant >top of the engine is red like a ferrari>turbo charger technology>race a RAV4 from a roll and get dunked onHate it
Also almost crashed too because I forgot my brakes don't work ever since that one guy on here convinced me the car can do 120mph but it can't.
yay or nay?
>>29138865Massive nay. Absolutely horrendous.
>>29138892You've not the vision jit.
>>29138792>yet posts a base model 99
>>29138865Two completely differing themes going on there, really not a fan.
>>29138865Does not even remotely fit with the style of the car. That's gonna be a Nay for me
>>29138865MODS Ban this faggot
Any cute boys ITT rn?
>>29138865Idk about the wheels but this little window here, completely fake, it's just a black piece of plastic subject to swirls as soon as you wipe it. Why would Mazda do this?
Wait a minute, is this a fake sunroof? Is this OEM or some eBay wrap shit?
>>29139157>Why would Mazda do this?A compelling reason would be to bug the shit out of you for over ten years.Also, it's a great place for stickies.
>>29139158You can option the black painted roof.
>keep debating selling the Miat to facilitate whale tail GF>addicted to porn so this could all backfire horriblyMy fucking god dude
You basically have to have a skinny Asian GF to live with this car and ascend to at least failed normie status.
>>29139170
>>29139203If you're talking like this about your gf, you should break up desu
>>29139157>>29139158this annoying faggot is ascending to pikafag statuswhy does /mg/ attract all the retards
>>29139253dudes right desu
>>29139214bumpkin
I am still mad over the cancelation of the 180hp version of the ND. I will never have the funds to buy it new, but it makes it unobtanium in the second hand market as well.
>>29139392NE is about to come out I'd just wait, it's gonna be good
>>29139253Because this is one of the few threads left with people that actually like cars, and disingenuous faggots can't help but try to make everyone as miserable as themselves.
>>29139429>fake grille>fake back window>fake sunroofremember that
>>29139420No way in hell it'll be good.They are going to ruin it in some way. Be it a hybrid engine, big fucking screen or something else
>>29138080>>29138154This is a wild build Anon. Are you planning to drive it on the road, or is it track only?
Toyota rav 4 has 300hp now, well it's probably even more on the new one but the one that smoked me was the previous gen.
Pic rel
What cars can I even bully with a Miata if everything has more HP?
>>29139560You bully everything in the twisties
>>29139560Yeah you can bully everyone in the turns but usually this just means you waiting behind someone riding their brakes at 15 mph because of the curvy road
>>29139560
Apparently Maruha makes 2.1L stroker crank kits and street/race cams for the VVT motor now. Lightens the crank, rods, pistons, and valve buckets, and bumps it to 11.6:1 too. Supposed to be able to make up to 230 crank hp. I literally overhauled my VVT motor last year but damn if this doesn't make me want to pull it all back apart again.
>>29139773>Supposed to be able to make up to 230 crank hp.Doubt it. You'd be lucky to break 160
>>29139784That's literally what the factory JDM VVT motor makes to begin with.
Fooken ell m8
>>29139573>>29139689>>29139729I have the most powerful Miata ever created this isn't fair.
Anyone ever swapped a rav4 engine into their Miata? Seems simple enough they're both 4 cyls.
>>29139923You'd have an easier time swapping in an ND2 engine, the A25A-FKS is only ever put in FWD cars so there isn't really anywhere to bolt motor mounts to it on either side of the block, their engine mount is on the very front in front of the belts and then the rest are all on the transmission. You'd probably also have to make your own wiring harness to connect it to a universal engine computer of some kind, assuming one supports its cam and crank tone wheel profiles out of the box. t. Just replaced one in a camry
>>29139923This feels like bait
>>29139948>the legendary 300hp A25A-FKSWhoa
>>29139205It's a car exclusively marketed to White men with anime addictions. It's the official car of 4chan.
>>29139923People who swap non-Mazda engines often choose the GM LS or the Honda K-Series. They're proven swaps with information available. If you wanted to swap something really fucking weird like a Rav4 or a Rolls-Royce engine, you're on your own.
>>29140099How about a Jaaaaag V-12? Only have to cut half a foot into the firewall.https://youtu.be/jZLnrOeu0KE
>>29140101This is a SFW board. Posting a Jag V12 with six Webers probably breaks the rules.
>>29140099luv me weird engine swaps
>>29140104reminds me of this cobra rep I saw at Le Mans Classic
>>29140105Almost a Rolls-Royce. Well done.
>>29140109Another more reasonable bri'ish V8
>>29140112They're an alloy motor like the LS. Wonder how the weight distribution pans out with that.
>Rev it to 11,000There's a busa swap kit.
>>29140099LFX Miata my beloved
>>29140113The Rover/Buick V8 weighs somewhere around 170kg fully dressed, so better balance than an LS swap, if less powerful as a result.
Picked up a stock NA8 with about 45000 miles. Do I modify it or leave it alone? I can't figure out if this is a survivor or a blank canvas. On one hand a spirited driver toy may be nice, on the other maybe Mazda engineers knew best
>>2914016945k miles? Nice. The decision is entirely up to you, your wants, and your budget.I recommend restoring anything that needs restoring, then getting used to the car. You should know what you want to change or improve, if anything.Short of spending $4k+, you're only getting power out of a timing advance and or going catless (even then we're talking ~5 hp). Maybe a VVT head swap but that's likely at least a grand all said and done.Sway bars are cheap and good, but will likely change the understeer/oversteer dynamic which could be dangerous if you're a nooblet at RWD cars (I don't know if you are or aren't).
>>29140169Skip the turbo/power modsMaybe do upgraded shocks or coilovers if you aren't pleased with how it corners Maybe do sway bars if you feel you have too much body rollBesides that, good tires and maybe motor mounts. Exhaust/headers don't do anything worth a damn, neither does a timing advance, at least not enough of a difference to run premium Anything that makes it handle better will likely have the inverse effect on comfort. A nice tight stock NA is honestly a blast to drive
Seen at Mazda Fan Festa. I like it.
>>29140495inside
Also at the Fan Festa, this appears to be displayed by Mazda. No information as Mazdafitment.com is mostly a photo blog.
Finally my brothers transmission rebuild shitshow is complete and out of the garage. Now my miata can finally get some love. Some exhaust work, a refresh of the lanolin under coating, maybe an oil change while I have it in the air though I only did it 2000 miles ago. Who's to say
>>29139573Lol nope
>>29140509they will never release this car in a good color.
>>29140842Cute
>>29140620I can't wrap my head around it either. Maybe the market is just old boomers who want boring colors.
>>29140927>Maybe the market is just old boomers whoNo the ND is 100% marketed towards incel zoomers and failed normies, this is a complete departure from their original target audience, the boomer. It's a great car but the 50% fake grille, fake back window on the rf and the fake sunroof as well as the angry chineese headlights are not boomer core they are something else.
>>29139477It's the weekend or nice day to work car. Mostly a toy now that I have a beater. It's been a long road and I *still* haven't put in my 4.3 torsen
>>29140960For me, it's the 3.63 Torsen
>>29140939>fake sunroofon a droptop. I cringe at your idiocy.
>>29140939I pretty much only see people 50+ driving the ND. Zoomers are still well and truly obsessed with NA and NB
>>29141098I just can't see those cars(na and nb) being worth the 12k I see people spend on them.
>>29141098>I pretty much only see people 50+ driving the ND.Doesn't matter at all and that's called your subjective exp. Mazda themselves discussed how they did market research and found that the Miata had a reputation of being "feminine" so they had to swing in the complete opposite direction and go full incel zoomer mode to appeal to insecure retards, hence the black wheels on every trim, no cool colors and angry chinkshit lights as well as the fake roof, windows and fake grille. Your boy dave coleman discussed this shit and theres multiple articles about it. Hopefully they come back to their senses for the NE and make a car fit for a white man.
>>29141228Dear Mazda, please ignore this idiot.
>>29141015>>fake sunroof>on a droptop. I cringe at your idiocy.Yea it is pretty cringe, not sure why Mazda did it but It probably was done to boost sales to uninformed buyers.
>>29141230>no argumentStandard. also you are spiritually brown.
>>29141235Ugliest Miata of all time
I think the RF looks nice. It is a shame about the wind noise with the top down.
>>29141246>I think the RF looks nice.You would, Mazda and fiat/stellantis spent a LOT of money to make sure it appeals to very specific kinds of people.
>>29141253>Buttfrustrated because miatas exist to the point he comes to /mg/ to screech about themI'm sorry that zoomer ND owner fucked your oneitis. Better luck next time, slugger.
>>29141254>>Buttfrustrated because miatas existNo no you've got it all wrong angry and aggressive ND enthusiast. What Im frustrated about is the humble Miata turning into some incel zoomer tranny car with a bunch of fake shit in it.
>>29141258FFS, give it up. Nobody is interested in your talking points.
>>29141262I can't imagine I'm the only rational white male that's into these cars so I will continue to spread the knowledge until more people see that it's okay to speak up about being labeled as an aggressive yet impotent zoomer by the manufacturers marketing dept. See you around angry and aggressive ND owner (rich).
>>29141266Nice try but I run NA's. New Mx-5 looks cool and modern, but I prefer no airbags and no ABS.
>>29141266NTA but it's clear you don't have a miata or like them. You latch on to little gimmicks about things and repeat them with buzzwords as a fishing expedition. Very disingenuous.
>>29141268>You latch on to little gimmicks about thingsLol yea it do be like that >>29141267>New Mx-5 looks cool and modernIdk about cool but it does look modern in the worst way (angry, impotent, aggressive, fake)
So is this guy just mad because he's too poor to afford a ND? I get the feeling he's european.
>>29141274>the poorfag argumentWhat does that have to do with fake grille window and sunroof?
>>29140987Mmm deliciousOnly reason I am sticking with 5 speed is I drove 2 of the 6 speeds and the shifter felt worse than my 5 speed. Maybe they never rebuilt the shifter but it definitely has a lot less "snickity" when going into gear.Plus if I went 6 speed it would have to be MSM trans with the circlip mod done, and at that point just put a real 6 speed that can handle power at that point...I have some poly diff bushings brand new I am getting rid of soon, I have mazda motorsports rubber bushings.
>>29140509Love this colour.
>>29141274there's a small but dedicated groups of schizos on /o/ committed to making any attempts at actual discourse as unpleasant as possible. note that this turbofag never posts car, he just bitches and moans about one thing he probably doesn't actually care about at allI hope one day a magic wand is waved and 4chan is de-anonymized, so retards may for once in their lives be accountable for the stupid fucking things they say. I say this as a decrepit oldfag that's been here since TFTDadd it to the list of things that will never happen
>>29141327>there's a small but dedicated groups of schizos on /o/ committed to making any attempts at actual discourse as unpleasant as possible. note that this turbofag never posts car, he just bitches and moans about one thing he probably doesn't actually care about at all I hope one day a magic wand is waved and 4chan is de-anonymized, so retards may for once in their lives be accountable for the stupid fucking things they say. I say this as a decrepit oldfag that's been here since TFTD add it to the list of things that will never happenfake grille, sunroof, and back window. hopefully they fix it with the next gen
What's the consensus on 1.6 vs 1.8 in the NAs?
>>29141810some people say the 1.6 is "livelier" but having driven both, that's cope. 1.8 all the way
>>291418101.6 revs higher and feels slightly more whimsical. Keyword FEELS1.8 indeed has more power but it lost something in the process. Exhaust note sounds kinda lackluster, feels ever so slightly heavier and it's noticeably less eager to rev. >>29141851Honestly pretty accurate. I put a lightweight flywheel on my NA8 and it mostly brought back the feel of the NA6 but it's still a bit too much torque if you want to wind it out on public roads. Foot to the floor in a 1.6: "oh I'm only going 60 in a 45"Foot to the floor in a 1.8: "oh fuck I'm doing 75 in a 45"
>>29141810I prefer the feel of my 92NA6 over my 94NA8. It feels more sporty to drive. Less torque means I work the car more at road speeds. NA6 all the way.The NA8 is more powerful though and a better long distance cruiser for it. This is my long held opinion. I may be eccentric and you are totally welcome to ignore me, but this remains my opinion>>29141854Sorry about that. I was consolidating my thoughts.
>>29141855I definitely agree, if you're doing a lot of trips I could easily see those extra 200ccs helping keep revs down yet having torque for passing. Neither are bad, just I think as the NA matured they had to make it ever so slightly more livable/address complaints to keep sales up. Less buzzy engine and the fact they kept raising the suspension on the NA because people likely complained it was too low.Americans (especially at the time) just want to stick a car in a high gear, floor it, and expect it to move quickly, making as little noise as possible. Then again the 1.8 came out in other markets too so my analysis is likely wrong too, idk
>>291418101.6 feels like shit, barely has enough for powerslides, and sounds like bees in a can.1.8 feels the minimum of acceptable and sounds deeper. My NB 1.8 has the same 7k redline as NA6s.I've had miatas 12-13 years, the lack of power is the biggest issue and 1.8s are much better to drive than the NA6.That said, I'd rather an NA6 over most cars, I'm not saying that it's shit. 1.8s do over a second quicker to 0-60, if you want to kick the rear out then you want that added power.
>>291418101.6 is way more pure
>>29141878>power is the biggest issueyou are brown>>29141868>they kept raising the suspension on the NA because people likely complained it was too low.this is really based
>>29141868>having torque for passing.brown
