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Is it a gimmick manual or the future for manual driven cars?
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total gimmick, would have been better to just give it a sequential lever
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QRF for those of us that stopped caring about Ferrarislop years ago?
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>>29135049
It's an automatic but with a fake "manual" gated shifter to send electronic signals to the trans for when to shift. Basically like a racing sim setup.
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>>29135111
americans would hate this but it seems like something that would be popular in europe. european enthusiast don't like manuals.
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>>29135111
Is this because no human can manually shift through the gears fast enough?
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>>29135135
The Ferrari guy on Chris Harris's review basically said that.
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>>29135049
>>29135111
it's transmission by wire.
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>>29135111
Oh, so just like a modern fighter plane joystick? Yeah, that's for fags.
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>>29135118
It might also save car manufacturers money down the line. They can make sports cars Auto/Manual at once without having two different production cars. It would also preserve value better, as the future market is bigger than for just auto or manual. Harry seemed to have enjoyed the manual gearbox.
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>>29135111
Why not just have a paddle shifter?
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>>29135138
That was a cool video
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>>29135118
Nigger you are 99% automatic, gtfo with your babble
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>>29135193
Not with enthusiast which is what my post is about, retard.
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>>29135111
Very gay
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>>29135111
It has a clutch pedal as well
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>>29135015
Any videos of it being driven by someone besides some limp wristed tech tag that can't shift for shit?
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>>29135687
Harry Metcalfe did a good video
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>>29135111
As far as I understand the tech, the clutch pedal also controls the clutches inside the DCT, so pedal position will correspond to the actual position of the clutch, just no mechanical linkage.
For instance you can raise the clutch pedal to the bite point and the car will crawl forward like an actual manual.
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>>29135015
I've tried having this conversation but 4chan just isn't mature enough for it. It's such a fascinating moral dilemma but no one here can form thoughts more sophisticated than "fake and gay you'll never be a real manual"
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>>29135784
intellectual discussions are gay. if you're not just following your gut and acting instinctively in 2026 you're not going to make it.
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>>29135816
So you don't criticize women and leftists for being irrational and letting their emotions dictate their decisions? Just making sure you're being fair and balanced.
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>>29135818
midwit take, stop replying to me fag.
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>>29135843
This reaction means you were in fact a leftist woman. Just proves my point that there can't be a real conversation on this website.
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>>29135848
>wah argue with me i need to feel smart
lol
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>>29135880
Makes sense that you think discussion and argument are synonyms.
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>>29135884
ok you win the "discussion" lol do you feel good now
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>>29135687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhWUY5bCLX4

As usual Harry glazes the shit outta Ferrari
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>>29135892
Of course not. I was already despondent at the state of the board and you only drove the point home even further. What is even the point of this place if you can't have a simple conversation about a new car? Why are you and people like you so adverse to talking to someone about something, yet you go to a place designed to talk to people about things?
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>>29135764
>For instance you can raise the clutch pedal to the bite point and the car will crawl forward like an actual manual.
Yes he does it in this video>>29135191
I think the engine even "dies" if you raise the clutch all the way up.
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>>29135901
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can i disengage the clutch and rev up to the limiter while rolling?
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>>29135924
"TheDrive" did a clutch dump burnout in one, so presumably yes.
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>>29135898
I just said not a limp wristed faggot, if this dude actually snatched the shifter 1 time he'd pull a muscle or something. The fact you even suggest Harry for anything besides overall boomer impression of a car means you can't shift for shit either, you may be able to actuate a clutch and get down the road but you fundamentally can't shift.
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>>29135970
Cool it Senna. COOL IT
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>>29135135
Yes. Retards will cope and seethe but it's true for all new high performance cars.
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Yall bitching about little details of a car you could never afford. Like you'll ever have anything better than the 200k mile ford Taurus your dad gave you to commute to your McDonald's/Walmart job
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>>29138951
The reason why it's interesting is eventually this will trickle down to normal cars, just like disc brakes, DCTs, turbos, DGI etc. It's irrelevant right now on a new $750k Ferrari but it will be more relevant in 10 years when it's an option on a GTI or Mustang
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>>29135204
there are no mutt enthusiasts
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It's a DCT in a drag because
>actual manuel would require crashtesting that particular car variation which is insanely expensive
>making manuels not explode at 700+ hp is expensive
>making the manuel autotragic on demand is HIGHLY attractive to normalfags (who actually buy those cars)
>better for emissionsfaggotry

So basically "real" mechanical manuels won't return. This is literally the only thing you could hope for in the future.
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I think the real question is why they don't do this for every DCT car if it's just a case of adding an extra switch
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>>29139210
It's a lot more complex than "adding an extra switch"
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>>29139100
i agree, which is why europe cannot be car enthusiast.
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>>29135015
This is humiliating. Driving a modern car is humiliating. I would be immensely embarrassed if seen driving any car made after 2020. I would rather drive my dad's car. I would rather it be KNOWN I was driving my dad's car. Holy shit.
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It's a gimmick. Paddle shifters are true to their form. The optimal way to shift gears in an automatic transmission. Why complicate it?
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>>29139252
Because it's more fun. Would you rather drive an automatic car with paddle shifters or a manual car with a gated 6 speed?
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>>29135118
>european enthusiast don't like manuals.
I fucking wish.
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>>29139252
Paddle shifters aren't that fun.
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>>29139391
your wish is already reality.



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