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Welcome to the Auto Vidya General, the thread for discussion of racing and driving games. No chinkshit peripherals, brand shills, advertisers or ecelebs. Offtopic vagueposting and thread spam should be kept to an appropriate minimum.

Previous thread >>29130731

>Wiki
https://get-good.net
>Mumble
IP: mumble.get-good.net
Port: 64738
Password: 4ch
>Chat
https://chat.get-good.net
>Equipment Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uLKMbKwweUZ3QvFeNs8UeycZbDyo0McxGj7T6uTaTNo

>Check the doc for the latest info. GT Challenge in Assetto Corsa currently ongoing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q/edit?gid=2067389525

>We're decompiling the classic PC game Whiplash and rebuilding it for modern hardware! The game currently has complete parity with the DOS version plus a lot of modern enhancements and features such as online multiplayer and a track editor. It's even playable in a browser. Check out the GitHub:
https://github.com/FatalDecomp/ROLLER
and at https://fatal.racing/
also this browser game https://rally.get-good.net
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>>29136275
lmfao wtf is that webm
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Talkabout Airtime: https://sladi.fi/r/MRHl-K50
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>Never the guy
>Never drew a dime
>Never had any simulation value
>Never had the balls to like 2D girls in spite of his daddy/girl problems
>/ovgt3/ wrecker
>Thinks oval racing experiences apply to GT3 and vice versa
>Benchracer
>WESCAR jobber
>Fat
>Shit hairline
>Anal cavity
>Ugly bastard
>Never took a shower or hit the weights
>Banned from iRacing many times and now everywhere
>Everyone hates him, even Ian Bell, despite hiring him thrice
>Literally and legitimately autistic, cuck and incel at the same time thanks to his BPD problems
>Manufactured the SRD NR2003 drama by rehosting said mods in the first place
>Counters elitism with elitism
>Worked into a shoot by Hornbuckle, Ian Bell (twice), SJ, brownninja97, SRD, Jacoby
>Cried like a bitch when /ovg/ and /r/simracing BTFO him
>Sev's Jannetty
>Is Canadian but frequently pretends like he's American
>His blog, guide, novel, YT channel were all cringeworthy
>Endorsed paid ripped mods and loot boxes
>Buried VR and direct drive wheels for no reason
>Nobody would listen to the fact that racing esports never drew a dime because only he thinks so
>Huge mark for himself; paints himself as a hero everywhere
>Had a pedo livery in iRacing
>Complains about simdads only to act like a simdad himself
>BTFO by a literal wheelchair cripple in WESCAR
>Nearly got v& because of his non-racing comments
>Swatted a literal who for no reason
>Beat women for real because he couldn't beat men in anything
>Cucked from his job by a literal who pedo scammer that he stalked, then proceeds to leak a private conversation with his (former) employer
>Unironically calls himself """"""""DA BEST SIMRACING JOURNALIST""""""""
>Is the simracing equivalent of that one insufferably mediocre developer whose sole professional """""""achievement"""""" was staying in the same shitty job for 5 years and trying to comeback since
>The biggest impact he had on the community was sitting around in the back tell tales about being the """""""savior"""""" of simracing.
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they ported rf2 into roblox
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Why are we posting about that guy again?
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Why are there no motorcycle sim rigs?
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>>29136311
bc bikefags are gay
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james saved simracing by proxy
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>>29136311
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>>29136303
holy BASED i love this copypasta
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cheers to the anon who talked about ams2 presets, it's a game changer, just wish it applied to championships as well
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c'mon pump this party
c-c'mon pump this party
c-c'mon pump this party
c-cmon [WHOOOOOP]
LET IT HIT 'EM
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>>29136308
>>29136303
>Two James
>both simracers
>completely different lives
Poetic
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>>29136410
one has a narcissistic personality disorder and the other is british
huge stat spread despite rolling the same class
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>ams2 isn't a real simula-

>>29136350
ur welcome friend
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>>29136547
sliding all over the place
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these assholes would rather recomp Resident Evil Code Veronica PS3 version instead of Gran Turismo 5/6, what the fuck is wrong with people
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>>29136606
gt5 and 6 fucking sucked dick retard
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>>29136610
and your favorite game sucks too
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>>29136288
it's a really cool game
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>>29136611
whiplash is literally the best racing game of all time and one of the finest video games that will ever be created by humans, we literally don't know how to make video games better than this anymore. this is peak.
completely cpu rendered low poly precision goodness that would make a ps1 shit itself, handmade car models and tracks, made in 8 months of 1995 by a dev team of ~15 people who had to be told in a published internal memo that the free pizza would stop if they didn't stop playing it and get back to work, two unique soundtracks inspired by the mid '90s UK rave scene and 16-man multiplayer that still works to this very day.

grandma autismo slop ain't got SHIT on the godlike perfection that is Whiplash.
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I finally managed to try out Horizon 2 on my PC after downloading it for 7 hours it feels like I'm playing an actual PC port rather than an emulator.
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>Underground 2 and Midnight Club have gotten a new life
>Halo community managed to have 100 players in a lobby
I wish I was a 12 year old again rather than being a married man.
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>>29136311
The joy of motorcycling is unreplicable.
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Being married is gay as fuck
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>>29136311
Moza for you covered
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>>29136311
https://trakracer.eu/products/trz-motorbike-racing-simulator?srsltid=AYCX9vJI-Q7dxf_WxDIGucAjod87tl2BOnzSMJGQOoFotazN7rFuZzLm
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>>29136616
>and 16-man multiplayer that still works to this very day
when's that happening again?
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>>29136610
>gt5
gt5 was peak autism from kaz 24h races with full dynamic weather something Forza never figured out
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Is GT7 good yet?
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>>29136601
here's a redpill for you
all tires require some type of slip angle in order to turn

your grandma going grocery shopping in her shitbox? she's actually sliding all over the place on the way there.

ams2 has so much simulation value its actually insain

>>29136610
gt5 may have been shit but it sure had sovl. scope creep was what hampered that game. if they cut out the nascar shit and maybe didn't make the car premium cars essentially future proof (we literally didn't get anything on pc that matched their fidelity until a decade later), there may have been more dev time to focus on more important things.
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>>29136688
roller's mp works right now
native ipx tunneling thru dosbox always worked
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>>29136765
real tires don't magically generate infinite traction with slip angle like madness engine sloppa thoughbeit
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name one good engine
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oh yeah, it's time for a vaguepost
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>>29136897
[my favorite engine here]
here’s a dogshit engine for you as a bonus
[your favorite engine here]
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Didn't see new thread so reposting here.

GT3 has been caning my ass so I googled to see if I'm just bad or not. Consensus seems to be that the game is kinda retard hard but switching gas/brakes to the right stick instead of using face buttons that go ham instantly is optimal. I've tried it a little and not being a racing game player it's taking some getting used to. I hope I can master it because spinning out on every corner in my Lotus Elise while desperately trying to keep up is frustrating.
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>>29136897
isimotor
papyrus 6dof
roller
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>>29136897
madness engine
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>>29136933
you can hold slip angle in gt3 like youre playing ams2, ur just bad I'm sorry. maybe try an easier gt game like gt2 or gt4
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>>29136933
>switching gas/brakes to the right stick instead of using face buttons that go ham instantly is optimal
a real ps2 controller has analog face buttons
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>>29136971
the analog face buttons on the dualshock 2 sucked ass. they only worked well in mgs. I remember that being a thing in burnout 3 and it was annoying because of how hard you needed to press down the cross button. like nigga this game is arcade as hell I dont need to modulate the throttle at all
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now this is gaming
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>>29136987
lolz
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>>29136933
MR cars aren't newbie friendly, brake straight and hold some acceleration while turning

>>29136974
It works well in MGS because kojambo used them as trinary buttons, they're too short to actually use them as analog
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I find MR to be noob cars because of how pointy they are during the corner turn in phase.

FR cars require real finesse to not understeer
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>>29137027
that’s because MR were designed for wealthy retards that can’t drive and their wives
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>>29136987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqP6H47-7-I
only real gamers remember this kino
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>>29136612
why does it look like you're trying to do forza horizon drifting constantly? Are you able to just drive straight like a normal person?
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>>29137087
hes copying the driving dynamics of a madness engine sim with the simulation value set to 100%
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>>29137085
sneed drive 5
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>>29137087
Because it's an epic reference to Juha Kankkunen having very slippery conditions...... wow this guy doesn't know SHIT
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>>29137087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-v7DqfPRi8

DROIVE ER STRAIGHT SOIDWAYHS LAD
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>>29137095
Took me far too long to realize this is chally spammer shit.
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>kita became a gran turismoid
oof
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>>29137097
the fuck are you talking about op's game is a ralli-sport clone made by a_fine_gentleman who is an /ovg/ og

>>29137120
i stop at gt2. everything past that is trash.
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>>29137097
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>>29137091
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>>29137154
what the hell stop stalking me let me post in youtube
>>29137128
nobody calls me that anymore!
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what’s the best sim for 90s DTM racism
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>>29137128
>i stop at gt2. everything past that is trash.
this is probably one of the few times I'll agree with you. theres something about gt2 that the other entries completely miss. gt3 is kind of close but the lack of content and artifical difficulty ruins it
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>>29137160
pretty sure riceroom is your only choice or modded ac

real niggas do sega touring car championship though
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>>29136893
the question wasn't what works
the question was when it would actually happen again
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>>29137163
gt2 has surprisingly good ai that actually race you and each other, especially combined with a ps1 emulator that lets you crank the clock rate up, which helps them make quicker decisions on what racing line to use. it has a solid car selection and godtier music. it's not up its own ass about it like gt4 and beyond. it also occasionally tells you to go fuck yourself and you have to let it know whos the boss. later gt games lost the sauce.
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>>29137165
ricers can’t seem to lose
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>ai chatbots keep regurgitating garbage from redditors saying irenting is the most realistic/best sim
yeah no, fuck off. dogshit physics and tire model. once lemao proves they can host 24 hour races without any hiccups then its over for irenting. last le mans 24h was pretty good but the brake failure thing was lawls.

I have over 1k hours in irenting so I know what im talking about. these redditors are either botton split shitters or sunken cost fallacy has gotten to them
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lemao also needs a voice chat feature like irenting. im not typing shit with my racing gloves on
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>>29137210
No it doesn't
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>>29137220
but I want to hear poorfag south americans seethe when I outskill them
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>>29137204
Nah iracing will continue simply because of the amount of people who spend >$15 a month on that shit and feel the need to defend their choice to save face.
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grok, reverse engineer rfactor 1 to have good ffb on modern wheels and make grand am ultimate
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>>29137258
>he doesnt know about realfeel
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>>29137262
I've used it and it still doesnt feel that great compared to ac/rf2/ams2
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>>29137262
>realfeel
isn't that a condom brand
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>>29137279
No it's accuweather's special "feels like" temperature
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found all the service packs for the enduracers mod again for rf1

american le mans series ultimate here i come
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>shift 1 cover car UDM
yeah, im thinking kino
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RiceRs won
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>still no black friday sale in the fanatec shop
not even any information whether we’re getting a sale this year or not… it’s over
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hell yeah bros after 3 hours I was able to get it to feel okayish on my fanatec dd wheel. this will be my new arcade racer alongside ams2 gt3s
>>29137535
good thing comes to those who wait, fellow fanagod
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damn the ai is slow as shit in this road alanta mod in rf1. this is too much effort to fix bros im going back to lmu
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>>29137585
Friendship with Art of Rally is over,
Sladi is my new best friend.
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>>29137586
>but slow
/ovg/ summed up
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>>29137587
Yes but most of all, spectacular.
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>>29137586
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I’ve been sim racing for 2 years and all I do is hotlapping the burgerking.
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>>29137726
an ac evo player i presume
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>>29137726
lmao. I wouldn't call that sim racing lil bro
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>try to make ai faster in rfactor 1 with some recommendations from grok
>now they are even slower by another 2 seconds
great
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Found a shortcut on the automation test track chicane
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>>29137780
why? I’m faster than you.
>>29137765
I play all sims that have the burgerking in it
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>using gork to get shit done in 2026
lol
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>>29137792
post burgerkang laptimes I bet im faster lol
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>>29137801
I give up at this point. even ass with some simple mods has more consistent ai, as long as youre using a kunos car
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SLOW.
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crazy how nissan managed to create some of the very best cars in existence. I’ll never play a sim with no Nissans in it
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Games would be better if they had no Nissans
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only good nigsan is the nu z and the ones paul newman raced
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r35 gtr gt3 is ok too but its dead bros
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>>29137861
delusional
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MOZAKEKS HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO US NOOOO
https://youtu.be/Bx8zijY_v4A
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dubs and I’ll sell my black series and buy an r35 nismo
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>>29137896
we all know that moza has shit detail. there is a reason why its to cheap. retards think nm is all that matters
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>>29137899
fanaGODS keep mogging
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>>29137901
theres a reason why i shill the clubsport dd for free
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>>29137541
How the fugg does rF1 still look this good? Besides the minor shimmering, this looks way sharper than any modern sim
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>>29137930
depends on how detailed the track/car mod is. i have seen some pretty horrific shit but this is one of the better examples
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>>29137726
Kek. Now let's see you keep it together for 2-3 hours straight. In traffic, mid class so you have to swim and take it in the ass. No lmps or prototypes untill you survive.
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>>29137792
>2 years exp
You have 25 more to go if you even hope to beat me.
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>>29137227
It's the perfect place for larping as a real driver. Every other sim either can't host a 24h or has even worse netcode than iRenting. Hate it all you want no other platform hosts esports racing with a paycheck. Maybe it's just sour grapes cuz you never held a black stripe.
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>>29137784
cranking ai strength up too far tends to make them make more mistakes which is why rf2 has ai aggression slider
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>>29137946
traffic slows me down and i hate being slow
simple as
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>>29137896
>absolute entry level garbage sucks
shocker
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moza = just some weird vibrations that retards mistake for actual useful ffb
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FFB aint real and a G27 is all you need to be a 11k+ irenting pro
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turdbros.. our response?
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i just ran the benchmark on my r16 ultra. it scored 99,9%
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>>29137983
>testing the t150 against a fucking dd
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>>29137985
it can barely match the g29
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>>29137984
We are so back.
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>>29138011
the t150 is cheaper than a g29 and the t300 and t150 are two completely different wheels

typical disingenuous chinese shilling
try reddit, they might fall for it
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>>29137953
irenting has some of the worst netcode though. it might only be better than some sims because they dont have dedicated servers
>>29137959
I guess I'll try that. I had the strength maxed out. the issue im facing is that they are braking or lifting too much on high speed corners and its raping their pace
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>>29138034
yeah that's normal for max strength rf1 ai
run them at like 95%, go into your .plr and change "Autocalibrate AI Mode" to 1, then do a practice sesh with one bot, no tire wear or fuel and let run for an hour or so (20 laps)

do this for every track that they have trouble on then turn the auto calibrate mode off. i usually just leave it on all the time as it makes them way more lively but it clears out the optimized line info on every track load if you do this
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riceroom is peak for tcr and dtm
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>>29138033
the t150 is a hybrid belt driven shitbase and as such should be superior to the g29 but it’s not
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my wife has a new helmet. and no she she does not burn the coal
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Gran Turismo 3 fag here. I tried the right stick for go/stop but still struggled to control my rear end, but I think I found my real problem: I just wasn't tuning my car lmao. I bought the expensive suspension, made it rock hard, and all of a sudden I wasn't spinning out constantly. Neat.
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>>29138201
the t150 is a single brushed motor fully assembled budget wheel just one step above the T100 and T80 spring wheel, the belt drive performs exactly the same reduction function as a g29's helical mesh gearbox, but a g29 in trade has dual motors making it technically and functionally superior to the t150.
your graph shows a T150 is slightly better than a G29 which, in my experience using both, doesn't seem true. the T300, which uses a brushless motor, isn't on the graph at all which is weird because it's actually the same price as a G29 and is vastly superior.
post a graph that hasn't been fucked with you spineless communist
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>>29138230
the guy is testing one wheelbase every few days it's gonna take a while until we get the full sample
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Is there anything more pathetic than living in your mom's basement, and pretending to be a racecar driver?
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ok now THIS is gaming. ai is a bit faster than me even with their fucked up telemetry but thats fine. gives me some room to use a custom setup and not completely btfo them. rF1 at road atlanta unfortunately is not it. I cant get them to do decent pace no matter what. the rF2 version of this mod is still kind of arcade i think, id imagine a gt2 from this era to be harder to drive. these are more or less what the real life petit lemao times were in 2009 for the gt2 class, so I guess it's realistic in that sense
>>29138214
personally I never touched setups in gt3. maybe try a FR car next time or awd if youre ready for some understeer
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rfactor is beautiful
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>>29138287
No my MR Lotus Elise is actually pretty solid now with the tighter suspension. I used money from winning harder races to buy a Dodge Viper and HOLY SHITBALLS THIS IS GREAT USA USA USA
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>>29138325
get the dodge viper gts-r for some alms kino
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>>29138329
Bro if unlocking the god tier cars was easy I wouldn't have been struggling all this time. If I wanted to cheese it I'd spend 5 hours of my life unlocking for Ford GT and dumpstering the game.
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gentelmen i regret to inform you that turbos suck ass
i keep having a turbo lag issue where im accelerating kinda aggressively and it pulls but then right as im about to hort shift boost kicks in
the power is nice but fuck me the n/a car didnt speak a different language
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Gran Turismo 3 is actually so much more fun once you realise the Lotus Elise is impossible to control and you should use anything else. Fuck Br*tish cars.
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>Forza Horizon 3 on Azimuth looks and runs better than the official PC port

Sides in fucking orbit, all we need now is a VIP/DLC unlocker and the Hotwheels/Blizzard DLC like FH2 has.
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>>29138475
I used the xboxonedumpz version of FH3 and it included all the car packs (and VIP cars), not the Blizzard or Hotwheels DLC maps though, but there are four Hotwheels cars in the Autoshow you can buy (but I assume the full DLC had more, I never did get to play it but heard it was great).
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>>29138556
slop game with ukporn restrictions on top
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>>29138556
welp time to request a refund then it's back to carxstreet i guess
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for its own good forza needs to die
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need forza motorsport 4 remastered
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>Microsoft recently instituted a policy of "no anime liveries". Itasha is a large part of Japanese car culture and while I understand there are content guidelines prohibiting the creation of lewd or offensive liveries, I was not aware before purchasing this game that there would be a campaign of mass censorship, deletion of content and banning of livery creators, particularly Japanese players, even those who do not make content in violation of this policy. I feel that Microsoft's policy is xenophobic, racist, and highly offensive. I have friends in Japan who can no longer enjoy the game. I have friends in America who can no longer enjoy the game. I have lost access to downloaded car liveries that were not in violation of any policy. This prevents me from enjoying the game. Therefore I would like my money back, thank you.

>I realize I have 36 hours of playtime but most of that was spent enjoying seeing people's cool liveries at car meets and I did not complete the game. Since there are no more players using this feature and the liveries I enjoy are no longer allowed, it is no longer a game I wish to own.
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ain’t reading all that
liveries = rice
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>>29138570
>it is no longer a game I wish to own
>I wish to own
>own
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>29138574
own = own a license to
suck a lawyer's cock faggot

>>29138572
picrel
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for me, its drifting a ruf yellowbird in slow motion at la source at spa
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>>29138578
>ruf yellowbird enjoyers when the rt yellow solvalou shows up
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>>29138517
Oh shit right you are, i'm a fucking retard, I just saw that there wasn't the VIP bonus for wheelspins and assumed there was no VIP stuff or DLC's etc

>>29138570
>Microshit assfuckery
Come home White and honorary White man.
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>>29138584
New carpack dropped for FH2 as well.

Aston Martin #007 Aston Martin Racing DBR9
Aston Martin DBS
Audi RS 7 Sportback
BMW #92 Rahal Letterman Racing M3 GT2
BMW M Performance M3 Racing
BMW M3
Bugatti Veyron Super Sport Fast & Furious Edition
Chevrolet #4 Corvette Racing ZR1
Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F458 Italia
GMC Vandura G-1500
Holden #10 Holden Xbox Racing Team Commodore VF
Honda NSX-R
Lamborghini Reventon
Lexus IS F
Lotus E21
Mazda MX-5 Cup
Mercedes-Benz AMG Mercedes CLK GTR
Nissan Fairlady Z
Nissan GT-R Fast & Furious Edition
Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
Renault Spark SRT_01E
Rolls-Royce Wraith
SRT #91 SRT Motorsport GTS-R
Vauxhall Astra 1.6 Tech Line Top Gear Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SJ9VtawFy8
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>>29138558
This shitty game could use DLAA
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>>29138584
im just going to avoid playing any forza branded products entirely, I honestly dont find any of the horizon games fun at all and motorsport always gets dumped on the c team and forgotten about within 3 months of release ever since fm5. Im glad microshit canned all the devs and dan "fort-za" greenawalt dipped out because that means they will never bring the franchise back and I dont have to hold out any hope that the next one will be worth playing.
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>>29138584
>Come home White and honorary White man.
Do you think it'll end up supporting Forza 4/5/6 as well? It'd be nice to play them free from Microsoft account nonsense, on linux etc
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for me its the inevitable cru2 decomp with 128 player instances and cru1 assets
forza is dead
long live the king of fun
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>>29138605
>Do you think it'll end up supporting Forza 4/5/6 as well? It'd be nice to play them free from Microsoft account nonsense, on linux etc
4 is already in testing, assuming there isn't anything radically different in terms of architecture between the Xbox One and Xbox One X FH6 should be doable. I don't think anyone gives a fuck about FH5 but probably if the rest get done.
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>>29138605
>>29138621
Oh and Forza Horizon 1 is being added to Azimuth as well and should run a lot better than either of the current recomps/emulators that are out there.
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>>29138615
>for me its the inevitable cru2 decomp with 128 player instances
Crew 2 wouldn't even have enough active players in any one region to fill an instance kek
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>>29138326
How is it possible that LMU looks worse?
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>>29138630
LMU also has worse ffb but that might be due to them using a peaky tire model compared to rf2. GTEs in lmu still have that signature rf2 feel because its using a tire model from 2024
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>>29138629
so no different from retail at its peak lmao
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>gran turismo 2
booted up
>dodge viper gts-r team oreca 99
selected
>laguna seca
raping boomer's eardrums with my v10
>stone temple pilots - sex type thing
kino soundtrack

yeah, its gaming time
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>>29138575
>looking like a subway toilet is considered cool by certain individuals
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>>29138662
yes
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>>29138587
>Vauxhall Astra 1.6
We ballin now
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>>29136612
>rims are z-fighting with the wheels
lmoa
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rV9fFcyS58

real race car driver drops truth nukes about the unmatched realism of madness engine sims
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>>29137204
>>29137227
iRenting only got popular because max verstappen played it.

Also lemao ultimate just ran some 4 24h races in a row without problems.
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>>29138677
How come most sims don't display roll that well anyhow? I've been playing GT4 and even on a controller weight transfer is easy because you can see the roll easily.
irenting and asscourse don't seem to want to convey roll to the camera at all.
Anyway cool video about sim racers and their crystal collections.
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>>29138667
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>>29137901
I don't get it, why is a 300€ base being compared to a 900€ one?
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>>29138475
Does it support the Xbox One X graphics preset?
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Reminder that Cam Ebben used a broken G27 to achieve 11k iRating and win 14 world championships.
Don’t fall for the giga wheelbase meme. It’s a psyop
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>>29137027
>>29137049
>Hating a car for doing what it was designed to do

Lol you guys are probably just as slow as the old faggots that drive exotics. MR is the best layout I've ever driven but then again it's an MR2 so it's the one none exotic example of the layout.
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>>29138744
Lol this. I used a beat up shelf demo g25 and made black stripe. Using a g920 now and made 4th overall in an F4 league with 8k plus sweats, even got a win.
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Check this Ruf out. I want it.
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how is riceroom? any good? just installed it but couldnt find any sessions running the new content
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>>29138802
I like it a lot but it needs night racing and stuff
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I’m surprised RiceRoom got the manual tranny and clutch action right. Good job KW!
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>>29138570
its what forza players deserve
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TIL some people think the VQ37 is the worst sounding V6 ever made.
wtf?
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>>29138810
BASED nissanGOD
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>>29138804
where are the sessions for content that isn't GT3/F4?
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Does R3E not have a rotating schedule with things like MX-5 Cup and Supertourers anymore?
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>Gran Turismo 3
>Audi TT Quattro Championship
>Buy an Audi TT Quattro for it
>Win
>Prize is an Audi TT Quattro

What the fuck is the dev's problem?
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>>29138820
dunno I don’t play multiplayer
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>>29138824
total audi victory
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>youtube shows me the trailer for some game called gran velocita
>check steam
>
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>>29138800
this but yellow and at spa
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>>29138810
uoh
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i have the sudden urge to play nfs shift 1

help
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>>29138969
It's gash. Play pro-street.
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most wanted 2012 was alright
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for me, its isiMotor 2.5 (rF2) and madness engine (ams2)
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>ITS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF99aCkT_tU
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>>29139097
I'll play gayroom when they got the cars i like. I can do gt3 literally anywhere else, and I cant imagine the multiplayer being active during american hours. I see james uploading shit races of him in top split, but really, how many splits are there? im in top split in lmu all the time in gold/silver and im sure that game has way more people playing, and im just slightly above average yet I get placed in there
>>29139105
this nigga dont even got a loicense
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>>29138203
Why did you feel the need to mention the second bit?
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>>29139122
iykyk
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>>29139122
because that’s the first thing 4chins types when a white women gets posted
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>>29139110
the whole point of riceroom is dtm and tcr and shit. gt3 is popular too obviously but there’s plenty of non gt3 racism to do
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>>29138275
yeah living in your moms basement playing MMORPGs
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Now I know why faggots are so much faster. They literally cut every corner. That’s cheating
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I just did my first online race and I was very scared.
Finished 9 out of 20 on a track I haven’t driven yet but it was a nice track indeed
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>he didn't know about the secret line
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>>29139143
just checked, the track is called hungaroring
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>>29139135
Isn't DTM the same as GT3
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>>29138734
>Does it support the Xbox One X graphics preset?
It has full graphics options so you can crank it up even higher than what the Xbox One X runs it at if you want.

Much longer draw distances, pop in distances for vehicle LOD, shadow resolution, shadow distance, shadow quality, mirror/reflection resolution, texture filtering, anti-aliasing, framerate, typical PC options.
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>>29139194
only nuDTM is GT3 slop. but there are no nannies which is great
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>>29138663
what game is that?
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GT Sport getting modded ya cunts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdDCbW6OYOQ
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for me, its gtr2: the official game of the fia gt championship (madness engine version)
>>29139241
its ass1 with the rss gt3 mod using a modded livery
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>>29139254
Praise be the machine gods, lookin rough as guts as one would expect, but as a proof of concept of actually being able to get modded vehicles and tracks into GT Sport insanely impressive.

I hope everyone is making plans to run older versions of claude locally because they are going to lock this shit down hard in the weeks to come.
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>>29139284
nah its fine
it just wont make oneshot no-resource clones of popular games anymore, i.e. "make gta6 in rust"
recomps and mods totally unaffected
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>>29139308
>recomps and mods totally unaffected
Hopefully it stays that way, Sony, Microsoft, all the big publishers would be shitting bricks right now and no doubt trying to apply pressure to get all of this shit shut down.
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>download fh2 because for years people have been saying its way better and the newer games have gone downhill
>it's the exact same shit
I had an inkling. In fairness its slightly less egregious and they at least split stuff into classes.
You still have to listen to yuppy cokeheads every 5 minutes. Festival racers are a unique hell.
Amazing how the visuals are unchanged too.
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>>29139320
what are you talking about, MS specifically is interested in making slop ports and would never. Sony is as well but doesn't have an AI division and thus can only protect their ips

they're both more concerned with enabling piracy than stopping software porting attempts, the interoperability clause of US patent law and the result of Google v. Oracle (2021) say quite succinctly that porting software constitutes free use and reverse-engineering software for the express purpose of porting it is legally protected.

"grok port left 4 dead 2 to roblox" is 100% legal
"grok decompile virtual-on and recompile it to c++ so i can see and modify how the game mechanics work for my own edification" is 100% legal
"grok make all the forza horizon games run on pc" is 100% legal
"grok decompile gran turismo 2, port it to pc and change the name to nigger racing so i can sell it as a standalone product on steam" is not legal, and that's what they are attempting to prevent. nobody was really doing this because everyone loves free games but there is a significant threat that anyone could.

the only thing that makes any of this not legal is the potentially iffy method of acquiring the game software in the first place and that always operates on don't-ask-don't-tell.
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>>29139334
have you ever considered that youre sick?
'
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>>29139339
hell yeah im sick as fuck absolutely cuhrazy style featuring dante from the devil may cry series
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>>29139334
>what are you talking about
I'm talking about AI companies being pressured to curb AI's ability to do things that are perfectly legal like they already have because it hurts corporations feelings.
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>>29139362
thats not what is happening at all, they are trying to stop oldschool software piracy where people take an existing product, change some assets and the name then sell it as a new product, which commonly happens in 3rd world places like brazil and india. That sort of thing has been going on since the very beginning, why lots of old games like Whiplash and Carmageddon have scrambled game files and modern games use proprietary compression algorithms to effectively do the same thing. Thanks to AI both those schemes are completely btfo, as the average thirdie retard can literally steal anything that isn't bolted down now.
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They're trying to make it hard for people to do this shit, it has nothing to do with ports and recompiling as those are protected by law regardless of feefees.
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>want to play ams2
>150gb+ dl
nope. that’s a full fucking day of downloading
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>>29139371
europoor or brazilian? it takes me 10 minutes to download 150gb
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>>29139375
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>>29139375
europoor
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>>29139261
Damn, looks really good. Crazy what niggas do in ass1.
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>>29139323
Yeah it's just nostalgia fags. All Forza games are shit.
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i really dont know why people shit on the gt3 cars in assevo. i love how they feel. maybe its because im slow and i dont push the cars like one of those "demons" but at my pace they feel the best out of any sim
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>>29139419
forza is great if you wanna drive a whole array of cars but dont want to deal with pure arcade physics
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AMS2 anons post your graphical settings, how do you make the game look sharp and clear without blasting supersampling on max, which tanks the performance?
I can't for the life of me get rid of all the jaggies and shimmering on a humble single 1080p screen. Best result I managed so far is TAA with low sharpening and supersampling on low, but it still doesn't look as clear as even older gMotor games
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>>29139323
>download fh2 because for years people have been saying its way better
When people discuss the Horizon games they're literally only discussing two things, the car selection and map and the map in FH2 is fan-fucking-tastic.
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>>29139445
but it's pure arcade
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>>29139452
>wants sharp
>uses TAA
anon pls
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>>29139474
>but it's pure arcade
No it's not, shit like Outrun 2006 is pure arcade.

Fucking retard.
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>>29139474
Incorrect, Forza is a simulator. A bad simulator but a sim nonetheless. Pure arcade is something like Crusin' USA that doesnt have any kind of vehicular simulation going on except maybe a simple torque curve. Forza at least has suspension calculation and traction circles, accurate masses and power, and simple aerodynamics, they are just ruined by controllerbabby drift stability assists that physically yaw the entire car body like a child playing with a hot wheels car instead of merely turning the front wheels.
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>>29139452
well there's not a billions ways to reduce aliasing and if you're not doing full image supersampling then you've got MSAA which only supersamples the edges
otherwise if you can't run MSAA 4x then prepare to cope and use temporal solutions (only dlaa 4.5+ and fsr4 are worth shit)
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You'll never get graphics as crispy as rf1 without actually playing rf1
there was something special about that era of graphics that we'll never get back because of shitty developers chasing flashy filmic camera effects that look good only in marketing screenshots rather than making the scene sharp and readable. a well made rf1 mod on the right track looks absolutely incredible, hyper-realistic even. No DOF, no lens flares, no glare, exactly like a person would see it.
as a nearsighted glasses wearer I fucking hate flares and camera effects like DOF, I get those by default irl and it costs me nothing while dipfuck game designers take 50 drawcalls to barf useless screenspace bullshit all over my screen.
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>>29139474
>but it's pure arcade
Ahahahaha, even fucking Horizon simulates more shit than supposed hardcore "sims", it might be more forgiving in its handling model, but it's unironically a better sim than most.
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>>29139517
Is that supposed to be impressive?
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>>29139522
>Is that supposed to be impressive?
No, it's pretty typical of most sims.
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>>29139490
>>29139492
>relative privation
That's shitty rhetoric.
It's an arcade game. I'll accept it has simcade elements to it if you're going to be such little bitches about it.
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>>29139523
Why did you say it simulates more shit than hardcore Sims, then?
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>>29139522
>Is that supposed to be impressive?
Not trying to impress you, just fucking laughing at your stupidity.

Every time you see someone have a fucking troony tier whinge about Forza not being a sim you can guarantee they've never actually played it with any of the sim settings turned on, they've never had to manager tire wear, grenaded a gearbox with missed shifts etc

>>29139524
>it's an arcade game
No it's not, now quit wasting everyone's time with your histronic nonsense.
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>>29139526
greetings from English
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>>29139526
Tire wear in horizon? Lol
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Can anyone clue me in why WRC 7 is the most played WRC game on steam?
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>>29139475
>>29139498
I can run MSAA at max but it looks awful, fences are full of shimmering, tracks like long beach are unplayable due to it. Same with night racing
>>29139538
China, check the community tab, it's nothing but chinese posts
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>>29139533
>Tire wear in horizon?
Retard power hour over here.
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>>29139549
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>>29139549
>>29139551
It doesn't affect anything though, you stupid cuck. You can't even change tires.

It's kinda like activating an overlay for LMU and seeing the brake wear being simulated, ignoring the fact that its effects are disabled.
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>>29139558
it does actually affect the driving model though. lmu's brake wear is only apparent on endurance races and for daily sprints its irrelevant, that doesnt mean it isn't simulated, you casual.
you clearly don't know what you're talking about. shut up.
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>>29139558
tire wear is absolutely a thing in horizon with simulation damage enabled, you retard
no one simply plays with sim damage enabled because AI isn't affected by it
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ams2tranny btfo
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>>29139563
Kita, studio420 literally disabled LMU's brake wear
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>>29139558
>It doesn't affect anything though
Yes it does.

Best of luck with the fetal alcohol syndrome.
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>>29139569
brake pad wear or brake disc wear because they are two seperate things
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skkDqzgbqWY

This shit is so ass.
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>>29139558
>It doesn't affect anything though, you stupid cuck
why would you not just test it yourself?
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I think I'm just gonna give up on iRenting, why pay a sub when the playerbase has abysmal racing standards? Just had a guy swerve into me to stop me from overtaking him at the monza straight, ending both our races.
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I do agree that forza motorsport was a sim, at least during the 360 era. PC sims from the time did not have the fidelity to be more realistic or for the console sims to deserve the title of "simcade". just go back and play rf1 today and its not any harder than fm2-fm4 without any assists. both are very forgiving. not even sure what these simboomers were smoking, must have been cope or the irenting crowd because Dave Kaemmer doesnt know how a car is supposed to drive and thinks unrecoverable slides = more realistic. forza horizon on the other hand is literally an arcade game


>>29139577
both, your brakes perform the same as long as you dont overheat them or they are not cold. I've done multiple endurance races in LMU and there is no difference in braking performance by the 8th hour. fuck I even remember doing 5 stints on the same tires during the daytona endurance event and braking wasn't any different
>>29139610
irenting actually has some decent driving standards, but you have to do the right series. gt3s and porsche cup everyone is tryhard and sweaty as fuck, so a lot of incidents happen. more laid back series like ferrari challenge or GTE are very chill and people are very respectful, gentleman drivers if I must say.
>>29139566
who are you quoting?
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>>29139610
iRenting is the only sim that has turnleft racing. LMU does sports car racing better, single seater racing is pure suffering no matter where you play, for everything else GT7 or AC with mods.
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>>29139651
>more laid back series like ferrari challenge or GTE are very chill and people are very respectful, gentleman drivers if I must say.
this happened precisely in a GTE race unfortunately.
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>>29139654
then report him and he'll learn his lesson. I've had my cleanest races in GTE. monza also tends to attract undesirables, same with spa
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ams2 has a better tire model than irenting
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I like RR, AMS2 and all Ass games.
I don’t like iRenting and Lemao.
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>>29139668
>I don’t like Lemao
you have bad taste
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for me its ams2, lemao, rf2, and sometimes the og ac
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>gayroom doesnt have road atlanta
dropped
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It has Macau though
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>>29139677
Yeah I hated overtaking anyway.
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>>29139677
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>>29139682
>>29139696
Get good
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where the fuck do I check the LMU schedule now that they took down LMU portal?

Racecontrolgg sucks dick
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>>29139726
https://www.lmuschedule.com/daily-races/

only for the current week though
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>>29139726
Surely the actually usable racecontrol.gg is coming next month with the Q4 update.
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>>29139517
brother even gran turismo 2 has tire wear, theres a spectrum on the arcade racing genre, driver san francisco, project gotham racing and forza sit on one side, need for speed and cruisin USA sit on the opposite
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i keep asking the lmu devs on discord to add an american le mans series ultimate dlc but they just laugh at me

the brazilians at reiza know whats up and have good taste
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Why is using the ideal (braking) line considered bad when learning a new track? it speeds up the process drastically I feel like.
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>>29140043
suffer like g did
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>>29140043
literally nobody said it was, i use the braking like in games like forza where the chaos in turns can make it hard to see the apex. but sticking to the line too religiously when sharing the track with other people is a good way to crash into them or get punted off, so you need to learn how to drive the track without it.
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>>29140048
Every „pro“ (sim) driver on jewtube says to not use that shit as it promotes bad habits or something. You have to learn to be quick just by looking at the track and figuring it out yourself
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>>29140049
>listening to youtubers

just kys it's over
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i just use the racing line assist when im learning a new track and use landmarks as reference points and eventually turn it off

never worked for some of the sand nig tracks like lusail, fuck that place
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>>29140051
I mean they are real gt3 racers. I’m not listening to literal whos
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>>29140053
let me guess, daniel morad is who you watched. 2x winner of the rolex 24 but got kicked from winward racing for some reason kek
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>>29140054
who
no I watch jimmers and coach dave for example
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>james broadband
>real racecar driver
lemao

nigga drives by himself in his own class
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>>29140056
what do you race irl lil bro
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you can’t use a driving line in real life either. it’s a simulation so turn that shit off
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nah i'm playin a videogame
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>>29140060
turn it off.
now.
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>>29140057
im not rich or famous enough for companies to give me a seat to race irl
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>>29140063
neither was jimmers
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>>29140064
he is both of those thoughbeit sybau
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>>29140065
yeah because he worked his ass off in his cuckshed
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>>29140067
he was just consistent with the youtube thing, knew the algoyrithm, and has been around for a very long time. other ancient sim youtubers like empty box and inside sim racing gave up and faded into irrelevancy
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>>29140048
>but sticking to the line too religiously when sharing the track with other people is a good way to crash into them or get punted off, so you need to learn how to drive the track without it.
10k iq
t. shoved off in the trial once again by a retard on on rails
holy shit please learn how to use it as a guide and not a train track
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>>29140069
>he was just consistent with the youtube thing
alot of simracing channels fumbled this part, so many missed the iracing twitch train

Super GT, Jimmy and Misha just never stopped, their content didnt get better every month they just kept a schedule.
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>>29139881
>brother even gran turismo 2 has tire wear
Gran Turismo didn't even track individual tires until GT5, it was all single point approximations, GT is perhaps the biggest farce in racing vidya history.
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vibecodergods.... its over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0KJm8P1DzQ
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>>29140274
its a nothingburger
it only affects low iq low effort "grok make me gta6 right now from scratch" type requests
if you physically have a copy of the game in question it will still happily tear it apart and translate it into readable compilable code. it always weirdly pushed back on doing things like translating song lyrics from nihongo to english for me.

t. my sloppa decomps are all proceeding normally
sucks 2 suck 4 type 5 apple people i guess, no gta6 early for browns
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>>29140303
>slopfag calling anyone type 5
ishygddt
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>>29140340
my apples look like this and you over there still thinkin' about fruits lmaoooo
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>>29140351
i can imagine fully detailed dynamic interconnected scenes, with concrete worldbuilding, characters, locations, dialogue and objects, all of which i can recall with perfect accuracy years down the line. but im glad you can imagine your virtual on waifu kita
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>>29140360
you want to be handed a hyper-realistic digital isekai where you can escape and replace your boring life
i want to make a hyper realistic digital isekai where i can watch giant robot women beat the shit out of each other

we are not the same
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grok, turn gta 6 into midnight club 4
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>>29140274
It's literally nothing, claude is happily decompiling my new project as I type. Whiplash was done with IDA Pro though, the LLMs were not good enough yet at the time. So even if all AI companies do shut everything down eventually a lot of non-AI tooling exists that is very good and has rapidly gotten better recently.
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>>29140519
this is also what clod said to me about my virtual-on port. the rexglue recompiler a human can run by themselves already decompiles the xbox executable into machine-translated C++ which is then recompiled into a windows executable by replacing powerpc functions with x86-64 ones. the actual meat of the game runs exactly how it was written and the game assets are supplied separately. the hard work is really just refactoring the machine translated code into something a human can read and giving everything comments and sensible names so that it can be maintained or modified by a human later. none of that involves remaking or cloning. i can even port the game to a completely different programming language like lua or rust and it's still fine. what i cannot do is go "clod make me virtual-on operation moongate in roller make no mistakes". even the clone i did make is based on my verbal description of a giant robot fighting game inspired by and very similar to virtual-on, but is expressly not exactly the same thing.

it's really funny because if you actually asked claude to make a clone of another game from complete scratch it would be garbage and nothing like the original anyway because it can't really play games. claude might be able to slop up a racing sim but it's never actually played rfactor. if you don't at least already have the game you want to clone in question in front of you, you will just get slop, and if you have the real game why bother trying to clone it?
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heres a funny joke for you guys
>ams2
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ams2 is better than your favorite sim
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Currently in the process of savescumming Gran Turismo 3 to get the good car from the amateur European championship, AMA. I need the Elise to come 3rd or worst in the final race so I'm starting the race, bonking him, then quitting because CPU finishing positions are whatever they're in when the player quits out lmao.
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>>29140274
jokes on you already hopped onto deepseek claude is reddit, told him I like mao and he reverse engineered your mom for me
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ams2 feels odd. even with a custom ffb file
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when were you when niggers modded vrChat mode into LFS (and got banned for it)?
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>>29140687
stop driving the gt3s, they are shit. gen 1s are ok though. ams2 is at its best with older cars like the 2005 GT1s. people also say the formula cars are good as well but i only drive GTs
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Is the vr performance update for beamng out yet?
I vaguely remember a youtube short a few weeks ago where they claimed they got 2x the framerate so...
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AssEvo will become the ultimate racing simulator eventually
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all these girls i see driving sports cars around me have to be trans, theres no other way
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>>29140847
this but ams2 once career mode and built in ranked multiplayer comes out
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>>29140721
inshallah lfs will be decomped and we will be free of the cyclist menace alhamdulillah
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>>29136303
My favorite moment was in /ovgt3/ Mid Ohio and he intentionally wrecked people so I took on for the team and drove backwards to take him out
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>>29140881
Awesome, thanks Bob.
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dunno if this is the right place, but has anyone tried the ported/modded seasons in f1 25? im wondering if the old cars actually perform differently or if you're just driving around the f1 25 cars with different models and different driver names
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>>29140881
That was OVGSC
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I just wanted to do a quick lap on the burgerking but I ended up racing for hours.
Riceroom is so much fun bros and the ffb is sweet
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ovg it’s time to confess.
I’m slow.
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>>29140937
post laptimes
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>>29140977
1:57 burgerking in the UDM for example. I don’t have what it takes bros. maybe I should just play snowrunner or some shit
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>>29140982
I assume ass evo or some gay shit
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>>29140930
this but ams2 and lemao
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>>29140984
no why
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>>29140991
thought you were the ass evo shill that only drives on the burgerkang
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i am up to no good
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I hate rhd cars bro they give me the ick
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gtr2 (madness engine) + petit lemao (2005) + american le mans series (2005) + c5.r gt1 + overtaking mopar shitboxes = simracing kino
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>>29141006
skill issue
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gentlemen...
its been settled
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>>29141006
Use chase cam and it won't matter.
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We are playing irenting in my friend group but we have a disparity of skill. So we rarely actually get into the same race. What's the best game for playing pick up games/public lobbies so we can race each other and randos?
My thoughts were iracing customs or ACC
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>>29141332
Probably irenting. Most ACC servers have a minimum driver safety rating you have to achieve before they let you in, it might be a grind depending on how casual your friends are.
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>>29136275
post and rate nfsu2 rices
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>>29141348
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AC Evo can have many issues as a game, but it is the most convincing driving experience I had in a sim and the ffb is really good. The sounds have really improved as well.
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>>29141370
this but rF2
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saaaaaaaaaaarrrrr
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enabled low latency mode in novideo drivers and now my ams2 frame pacing issues are gone

ams2 is truly the gift that keeps on giving
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>>29141332
two options:
the shitters need to git gud or the gooder shitters need to handicap themselves in some way, such as giving the shitters a head start
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>>29141370
This but BeamNG
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make a new thread you dumb fucking idiots
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>>29141348
pls respond ;_;
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>>29141370
this but riceroom
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>>29141436
no this is the final definitive /ovg/
ultimate edition
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>>29141436
page 7. the board is slow.
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boughted a switch 2 and playing f zero (gaycube). this game reminds me of ams2 so much bros, pure ludo
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>>29141438
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f zero league happening soon
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>>29141450
zelda oot remake tomorrow
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>>29141409
RBR mapper having a melty about it
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>>29139334
Clanker lover. Also go fuck your self latty.
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>>29141459
>Clanker lover.
guilty as charged

>go fuck your self latty
?????
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>>29141461
shame you picked the worst quake game for this
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>>29141457
Stop buying remakes. You can play the original at any time.
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>>29141462
best engine thoughbeit
q1 could not support the animations without a major engine rewrite
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>>29141465
just poking fun
we had someone try to put in VRM support for quake 1 over in the vr general so they could use their anime avatars but it was broken as shit
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>>29141464
I shall buy the slop
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>>29141464
I’m not going back to that ancient pos
I played it on the N64 when it came out and I’ll replay it exactly once, on the switch 2 tomorrow
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>>29141468
yeah that would never work, half-life 1 would have been a better bet.

this is the original character model and physics straight from virtual-on ported to a standalone dll that itself can be ported to any game. i looked at doom and q1 but q2 required much less work, i just have to use a 64-bit build of yamagi.
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grok, add daytona usa 2 power edition, le mans 24 (sega), and sega scud race to ams2
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>>29141450
based
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>nintendo magically summoning 30 million retarded pedophiles to buy the exact same game again
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almost as retarded as buying the same sim over and over again just to drive the same cars on the same tracks
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racetracks are actual places in the world where real people do real work and simulators are realist art that depicts real sporting events in the real arenas where such activity takes place

nintendo games are expressionist slop for babies. hyrule isnt real, will never be real and princess peach will never fuck you no matter how many times you pay mario $80
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my point still stands
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no it doesnt
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>>29141600
>>29141600
>>29141600
new



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