welp, they tried to resurrect Oldsmobile's brand image and it was a noble attempt but defeated by the GM bean counters
>>29138359"I know just what we'll do. We'll cost-cut our way to prosperity!" -Every GM executive ever
I don’t know what you’re talking about. add details.
Those beanboys done hit it with the ugly stick.
>>29138367what he said. The Aurora was meant as a fully updated premium car for the 90s to take on the ES-300 and Mercedes E-Class and had great promise, but GM cheaped out and it became a half-baked turd instead.
>>29138370ohh. I thought he was talking about today in 2026. fuck no wonder I was confused by that old car in the OP and what that had to do with any kind of resurrection now
>>29138366GM just couldn't handle the strange new world they faced in the 80s-90s when they had more competition than just Ford and Chrysler. Life was easy in the 50s when they had unlimited money and no real rivals.
>>29138359>GM shitbox poster posts again>old>mobile>meanwhile its competition during the same time period with a similar priceAcura Legend. No wonder GM stank during the 1990s
same with the 95-02 Continental. it meant well but failed to deliver on its promises as a Lexus-fighter.
>>29138378the Town Car was already beating the lexus anyway. that was Lincoln's flagship.
>>29138378>FWD transverse V8was why
>>29138375thank god Honda made a kick ass AWD system and DCT to set themselves apart. old acura was just honda with leather.
>>29138380Town Car owners were old as shit, bro. the average age was like 70. they weren't getting the hip 40 year old businessman or lawyer audience with those things.
>>29138385Lexus owners are just as old as the average lincoln owner. I don't know where people got the idea that Lexus was hip. only BMW attracts young (brown) buyers.
>>29138378on the other hand, Ford made Pic related, which absolutely kicked ass. beautiful inside and out and rode like an absolute god with the top speed you'd expect from a high end coupe.
>>29138385The platform was also old as shit, it was a 70s museum piece.
>>29138390>0-60 in 7 secondsOkay, not bad.>quarter mile in low-mid 15sI assume that there's a big ratio gap between gears 2 and 3.
>>29138395if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 70 series land cruisers are old, and you see retards paying 100k for those. toyota centuries are old, and you see weebs gushing over those.The town car was perfect and didn't need to change. its sales reflected that.
>>29138387>I don't know where people got the idea that Lexus was hipyeah, that's why the youth today are enjoying these old Lexus and everyone still remembers them today. Unlike crappy old GM cars
>>29138402No one remembers the GM cars yet you're responding to someone talking about Lincoln ass blasted at GM. sounds like they're quite remembered to me.
>>29138378the Navigator finally rescued Lincoln and had some cool factor with people born after 1940
>>29138402>Unlike crappy old GM carsonly the trucks and Corvette retained any cache
>>29138406to be fair anon, old Lexus cars are super popular on social media today- even internationally. GM cars from the same era? Not really
>>29138390nice effort but the market for premium coupes had disappeared by then
>>29138416i'm am fine with social media browns stancing and destroying old lexus for clout while boomers preserve old american luxury cars. it's the reason why you can find 30 year old vettes in damn near perfect condition all day but most poopras, FDs, and now Skylines are being destroyed.You can keep your young money nigga-boo crowd.
>>29138414B-body and G-bodies are sought after as well. look up the last RWD Impala SS value. even Turd gens have sold for triple digits. honestly, there's a lot of nostalgia for anything RWD GM.
>>29138420>social media browns>your young money nigga-boo crowdah so the GM poster finally comes out. A seething poorfag at that. While everyone else enjoying their cars. Last I remembered, the same browns you despise assembled your precious shit tier GM
>>29138414same as back then. nothing cool about a Lumina and the Cavalier was for poor people and most were trashed by their owners.
>>29138425I'm the Lincoln poster. i'm assuming you're seething at GM because a camaro shat over your precious yaris GR while it blew its third engine trying to make a left turn or something.
>>29138378The Continental's average owner age was like 62 compared to the Town Car's 70, it was not a big improvement.
these losers really think boomers are still preserving their old American cars in near perfect condition. Delusional and out of touch
>>29138431you have to remember that most of those 90s grandmaboxes like the Town Car and LeSabre, after their aged owners died or quit driving, they were sold to trailer trash and ghetto blacks who beat the shit out of them
>>29138428havent seen a Camaro on the street in ages my guy. Do people even drive that shit anymore? Where do you even buy one
>>29138431they are. corvettes aren't "cool" like JDM is. no one cares if you drive a C5. that won't get attention like a stanced S2Gay or Poopra. for every what, one corvette that gets crashed, there are 10 crashes in a GR86 somewhere by some broccoli head. the supply of GR86s will dry up faster than the supply of C5 vettes despite the C5 being much older simply because most young people don't think vettes are cool. they think "pushrods" and "leaf springs" and go "ewww, my dad drove that".
>>29138430And Cadillac was even worse.
>>29138432and yet, they still out number lexus on the rode who are bought by the same ghetto blacks but also have no boomer preserving them at all. there will still be fresh town cars. there will always be the Jay Lenos of the world who think those cars are worth preserving. not many people feel the same about the Lexus because it doesn't have the same history. Lexus history is just "great value mercedes". when Toyota tried to finally give Lexus a brand identity with the predator grill and LFA it failed miserably.
>>29138402Yuck.
>>29138441the 90s sadly had that whole end-of-history vibe to it where everyone stopped trying to excel or push themselves anymore
>>29138432he thinks is still 2002 when you could find mint Town Cars with 20k miles owned by an 80 year old who recently died
>>29138441like tf thinks this thing was cool in any way? the last one was recycled into soda cans a while back.
>>29138447https://www.edmunds.com/lincoln/town-car/2004/vin/1LNHM83W34Y618003/?radius=6000wow, that was easy.
>>29138448>>29138441a lot of these GM shitcans were there to keep UAW lines busy and fulfill dealer contracts
>Oldsmobile's brand image>it was already FWD commuter slop by the '90s
>>29138366Chrysler, same problem. The new 90s lineup looked cool and futuristic but were built on a $20 budget and were mostly ass.
>>29138456The real problem was that if you wanted to seriously take on the premium sedan market, only V8 RWD would suffice, which is what the LS-400 and Mercedes did do.>>29138378>>29138359V8s, yes, but FWD and the Northstar was a sadly bugged engine.
>>29138408lazy as fuck (>slapping woodgrain and leather seats in an Expedition) but it worked
>>29138359Never been in an Aurora and they were a rare sight back in the day but I did ride in an Intrigue once and it was pretty nice.
>>29138462honda did that with the accord and made the legend.
>>29138462SUVs were cooler than sedans by that point and generally had a younger audience. The Navigator ended up getting more orders at first than Ford could meet because they weren't expecting the level of demand it got.
>>29138478it was the first Lincoln since the Mark VII that anyone younger than 60 bought and did revitalize the brand for as lazy and cynical of a product as it was
>>29138472>honda did that with the accord and made the legendlet me tell you how Mercedes has made bank over the years selling taxicabs with leather seats to suckers
>>29138478some fags can't accept that people prefer SUVs and think there's a conspiracy where CAFE forced everyone at gun point to buy a 60k navigator over a 15k civic.
>>29138490The luxury truck was first invented with the Jeep Wagoneer and slowly became a concept during the 70s. It was moved in part because the South and West were increasingly dictating automotive trends instead of the Northeast.
>>29138483As for Cadillac, the Seville and Eldorado had some cool factor while the Deville and Fleetwood were grandma boxes. They also tried going European with the Catera but it didn't really work. Nonetheless the 90s were not quite as bad for Cadillac as the 80s had been.
>>29138490suv drivers arent people
>>29138395>The platform was also old as shit, it was a 70s museum piecealso last i checked Lexus and M-B had recently-designed platforms during the 90s not disco era shit
>>29138499The Fleetwood, aside from having an also ancient 70s platform, looked cheap as shit. It was like the inside of a Chevy pickup. Totally unacceptable for a supposed premium car.
>>29138514now you compare an LS-400 interior
>>29138518an acceptably 90s interior>>29138514unlike this block-ass 70s shit
>>29138382Too bad it didn't stop everyone from just ignoring this car and buying Accord 2.0T instead
>>29138385There's something cozy about grandpacore cars though.
>>29138514Wasn't like that in the 50s-60s, not at all. The beginning of the downfall was in the 70s when division managers pushed for higher volume whereas GM had previously capped Cadillac production at 150,000 a year to maintain quality and preserve the make's exclusivity.
>>29138375>GM shitbox poster posts againwho?
>>29138539He thinks there's only one person on the entire board who post GM vehicles.
>>29138385the Town Car was the only existent Lincoln product in the 90s until the Navigator. Continentals and especially Mark VIIIs were rarer than hen's teeth.
>>29138406>Pontiac is the one GM make that still had a cool image>it's the one that gets sacrificed
>>29138514>>29138518All Cadillacs in the 90s were aspirational vehicles bought by middle class silent gens who wrote their druggie xoomer grandchildren out of the will and whose mangled arthritic hands couldn’t operate all those little whiz bang jap shit gadgets to begin with. Plus they all still remembered the war despite the dementia. GM had no incentive to tryhard for these buyers.
>>29138387also idgi. in Europe the senior Mercedes models were always for old rich fat guys.
>>29138447>he thinks hes going to get all the huzz instead of scaring them awaywith a Town Car. The vehicle most commonly seen driven by geriatrics that looks and smells like piss, minty pain reliever cream, weed and shit- maybe a combination of all of that aroma. Also associated with crime and the degenerate from flyover podunk areas. All because he's too scared and too retarded to drive anything newer or remotely different than what he grew up with. The vice principal pervert car.
>>29138359I don't understand the Oldsmobile wordmark.Like why not call it Newmobile or something
>>29138609was earmark for "Olds" family last name trademark. Sure did not help their image as name is everything when it came to first-impressions. Same reason Japs renamed their heirloom brand names to something palatable to Western audience: Nissan to Infiniti, Toyota to Lexus, Honda to Acura. Associate with Italian heritage instead of Pearl Harbor.
>>29138518I never liked the ls interior, it looks like a basic ass corolla interior, probably why they call it "a camry wrapped in leather"
>>29138607>with a Town Car. The vehicle most commonly seen driven by geriatrics that looks and smells like piss, minty pain reliever cream, weed and shit- maybe a combination of all of that aroma. Also associated with crime and the degenerate from flyover podunk areas. All because he's too scared and too retarded to drive anything newer or remotely different than what he grew up with. The vice principal pervert car.
>>29138375>Let's make premium rwd sedan!>Get 99% done>Lol let's make it fwd instead>Lol let's just make the driveshaft go to the front>And then an axel to each wheel>Oh and one of them has to go through the oil pan
>>29138760that's like the Chrysler LH platform that was supposed to be RWD but they changed it to front at the last minute
>>29138373>any kind of resurrection nowIt would be nice, but no.
>>2913844190s GM in general is kind of regarded as a LOLcow outside the trucks.
>>29138359 (OP)>>29138370They also ran a rather shitty ad campaign "This isn't your father's Oldsmobile." No shit it wasn't. That ad campaign unintentionally put down all the classic Oldsmobiles of yesteryear.
>>29138610>Same reason Japs renamed their heirloom brand names to something palatable to Western audience: Nissan to Infiniti, Toyota to Lexus, Honda to Acura. Associate with Italian heritage instead of Pearl Harbor.no it was because market research showed that Americans needed premium cars to have a different brand name for prestige
Why was every fucking photo of these I could find an AVIF file?
>>29138842those 90s Audis lasted exactly as long as the warranty and became good lawn ornaments
>>29138842Probably because it is the file type most cameras used at the time period these hit the used market. A lot of those would be taken pre cell phone but post digital cameras
>>29138850say what? drunk Slavs with hammers and wrenches could run them for 250k km.
>>29138855he clearly means a USDM Audi that has all the top-shelf hardware which shits itself the moment the warranty expires. we kind of...don't get the taxi trim diesel models here.
>>29138842>>29137430hey, Audi got away with looking like an econobox and didn't need any chrome bling
Minimial viable product defines the American auto industry. Precisely why it loses everytime there is a somewhat free competition.
>>29138441>YuckMy reaction when I see a fucking Buick from the '90s.
>>29138913as anon said, GM were on the top of their game in the 50s-60s when they had no real competition. they couldn't deal with ten or so rival manufacturers like was the case in the 90s.
>>29138918>1956>compete with...Ford and Chrysler>1994>compete with Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Honda, BMW, VW/Audi, Mercedes, Hyundai, etc
>>29138922and they didn't really have to care about Ford or Chrysler, they were the little guys. GM set the trends, they just followed them. in any case they all had extremely similar cars anyway unlike Europe and Japan which could offer very different kinds of products.
>>29138916it was just 80 year olds who drove them to the Golden Corral early dinner special
>>29138938once said to look like a 6 year old who had just tasted broccoli
>>29138855Said drunk Slavs with hammers are 5 times as smart as the burgers I am not joking
>>29139155t. Bogdan Boganovic
>>29139155they aren't if they'd rather waste their time fixing a vag shitheap instead of just buying some jap car.
>>29138609>I don't understand the Oldsmobile wordmark.Ransom E. Olds started the company.
>>29138359>yes dad>i want 1992 Oldmobile>i will go to college now with this dream car and have many date
>>29139258the Cutlass Supreme was very much a trailer trash ride btw, nobody with any taste owned one of those
>>29138359Unironically the coolest car gm produced in the 90's
>>29138926>GM set the trends,Naw, it was Ford that usually set trends and then GM would come in and take it over with market cap.
>>29138457at least they had the excuse of being bled dry by mercedes
>>29139373that wasn't until 98, this was earlier in the decade
10 years later and still regret not jumping on that black on black supercharged 99 LSS for 4 grand
>>29138607Idk looks pretty good to me
>>29138524Square interiors are good though
>>29138359>but defeated by the GM bean countersThis is GM's history for the last fifty-something years:>GM engineers have this great idea on how to give [GM brand] a shot in the arm and be a real competitor to [European car] or [Japanese car]>Get the green light, but halfway through doing it, finance does pic related.>Project comes out phenomenally half-baked and becomes another joke. See also the Cadillac Cimmaron.
>>29138380>that was Lincoln's flagship.Not the Mark VIII?
>>29140880GM always seemed to have a longstanding fear that they can't ask too high a sticker price for cars and turn off their less well-heeled customers. Want a Mercedes-class product and you have to charge Mercedes prices for it, which they weren't willing to do.
>>29140891if you look into it, you notice that since the 70s it seemed they increasingly ceded the premium car market to German makes and decided they couldn't compete with them and instead doubled down on marketing to trailer trash, whereas in the 50s GM had a glamorous, posh image.
>>29140908The problem is yuppies buy imports for the snobbery of owning an import. Yuppies bought a lot of imports in the prewar years too; some European luxury makes such as Isotto-Fraschini shipped most of their output to the US. It so happened to be that WW2 put the kibosh on European luxury boats for a while, but they came back by the 70s.
