vgh the good old days
>>29143583British cars were really kind of sad and meme-tier.
>>29143587Some of them were, but you're over-generalizing.
>>29143598Absolute RIGBut the japs copied this concept and mass produced them for cheaper with modern 80s technology and they were better in every way
>>29143583it's a bunch of miserable British Leyland scrap that spent more time in the shop than on the road
>modern highways and roads>Bri'ish cars were still small and underpoweredWhy?
>>29143626Wealthy people could buy big, powerful cars.
>>29143626same as now. if you had the money you could buy something quicker but most people prioritised economy.the rover p6 was made for modern motorways and would handle them fine even now.
>>29143626>British gas prices
>>29143676the P6 was also a 60s design, that was the first decade of cars that could handle modern highway speeds
>>29143676so is no different from USA where most people in 60s had an I6 or small block V8 but richfags could buy a big V8 cruiser
>>29143598>>29143604My Indian uncle MOT tester had his cherished Ford Mexico in white/blue stripes. Raced it, then restored it worth £100k+ given the crazy prices of fast Fords here>>29143672Dad's mate had an Interceptor but had to sell it to pay for a divorce and had to go live in a caravan on his mate's farm. He was working-class because back then they were dirt cheap to buy and petrol was cheap
>>29143587lol
>>29143587Ford opened a Model T plant in the UK in 1912 and within a decade claimed half the entire car market there. The 1930s was when Ford USA and UK products started diverging as the Ford flathead V8 was too thirsty so it became necessary to develop cars more suited for local conditions.
>>29143698still, England developed a middle class car culture early on while continental Europe didn't get one until the post-World War II years; prior to that there were only sports and luxury cars for the rich.
>>29143705>still, England developed a middle class car culture early on while continental Europe didn't get one until the post-World War II years; prior to that there were only sports and luxury cars for the rich.Even then they heavily depended on US exports as they couldn't survive on just the European market. Italian manufacturers were exporting as much as 70% of their output to the US in the 1920s-30s.
>>29143705as proof, in WW2 when a tank broke down, GIs would attempt to fix it while Germans would usually just abandon them. The average German didn't own a car back then and few knew how to service motor vehicles.
>>29143473that was also a premium OHC I6 not the typical American one which was an economy pushrod engine with a 1 barrel carb
>>29143725those things got absolutely slapped by a basic bitch chevy impala.
>>29143672that thing just used a Chrysler engine anyway
>>29143725Jaguar actually made several sizes of the XK, the smallest was only 2.4L which is basically I4 size. And also, it's DOHC not single cam.
>>29143730using a big block V8 would be cheating. it would school an American I6 as those were just grocery getter engines and not designed for performance.
>>29143730dw they also made a 2 door sports version if racing is what interests you
>>29143735that was a stock impala that still had the radio and working interior trim. they didn't come with big blocks.
>>29143739>that was a stock impala that still had the radio and working interior trim. they didn't come with big blocks.that's a 61 Impala. in fact the 409 was available although it wasn't a very good engine and soon got replaced by the Block II Chevy big blocks in 65.
>>29143735American I6s were always low end economy engines that manufacturers invested only the minimum amount of money into.
>>29143746V8s made more sense because turbo power wasn't wide spread, yet. so there were few ways to even get power out of a straight six. where as V8s could scale up indefinitely without making a long engine.
>>29143749>so there were few ways to even get power out of a straight six.no? European and Japanese manufacturers did it usually with OHC and whatnot. there was just no motivation for Americans to do so since gas was cheap there.
>>29143739>>29143742racing cars would typically be a bottom end Biscayne with a 409 to be as lightweight as possible. no radio or sound insulation.
>>29143752probably bigger intakes as well. American ones usually had pinhole intakes so they couldn't make power if you wanted to.
>>29143757the Slant Six for example, it had tiny intakes and it was an old-fashioned long stroke design. no way to get power out of it.
>>29143752OHC isn't netting you competitive power out of a straight six. that's exactly why the jaguars got shit on and why anything competitive in group 7 needed 8 or more cylinders.
>>29143692Ones I see racing have a boot, but I heard that these were the first hatchback. Is that true?
>>29143731Correct, Mostly 383's and some 440 big blocks, 3x2bbl in 1971 only.
>>29143767>jaguars got shit onsource?
>>29143583look at all of these rattle cans, goddamn the past is so SHIT
>>29143858The A40 Farina Countryman had a split lifting and lowering tailgate. The new feature it an early example of what later became known as a hatchback.
>>29143866a family member of mine works in the automobile industry. manufacturing has improved by leaps and bounds over the last 50 years. precision and tolerances are much tighter now than back then.
I'd take any one of these shitboxes over a new bybrid or EV.
>>29143864did you not see the post here>>29143730 ? the impalas and ford galaxies basically killed everything.
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>>29143866enjoy your rust spots, dents, missing and incorrect trim pieces, maybe even the wrong engine from what you ordered
>>29143939Me too, one of those cool Harry Potter cars would be perfect.
>>29143687basically. a p6 v8 was £1700 at launch when the average salary was £1200, so it basically cost as much as an MX5 does now.
>>29143946Damn was that really Jaguar's fastest car? Everything I've been told about that company was a lie!
>>29144814>Jaguar's fastest car?Fastest sedan car.
>>29145393Oh so OHC IS netting you competitive power out of a straight six just not when it's in a 4 door luxury sedan that was never built for competition?
>>29145406competitive power while not having to race against any V8s anyway or it would've gotten shit on just like the others.
>>29145454Thanks for showing us all you have zero knowledge of jaguar racing history
>>29145482you just claimed the stripped out """luxurious""" jaguar sedans were never built for competition, while the fully loaded impala somehow was. seems like it's you who doesn't know anything about jaguar history.
>>29145486Was that 4 door luxury saloon really jaguars best race car though?Are you sure they didn't make some sports cars or something?
>>29145406I was claiming that sedans aren't as fast as sports cars. IDK anything much about the British Touring cars except that it's not open to sports cars. So, no Corvettes either.
>>29145495Did any of those sports cars beat the corvette?
>>29145498>OHC isn't netting you competitive power out of a straight sixDont shift the goalpost now little buddy
>>29145500>Sedan vs Sedan>sports car vs Sports car>moving the goalpost after the first goal was already won by V8ssounds like it isn't competitive given that you didn't answer the question.
>>29145501>sounds like it isn't competitiveSource?
>>29145502source: couldn't compete with the V8 corvette, a rival sports car. also, make sure you reply to>>29145503
>>29145506But was it competitive?
>>29145509against other equally cucked euro sports cars I guess.
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>>29145516>against other equally cucked euro sports carsSource?
>>29145517see>>29145506>can't compete against the non european corvette
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I wonder how /o/ is doing this fine morning...
>>29145642The RWB thread degenerated into nonsense like this recently. Methinks it's competitive bots slugging it out.
>>29145648It's about to hit 400 posts!>>29140733
>>29145648>The RWB thread degenerated >RWB thread>degenerated Considering that the guy who spams those threads weekly is the same guy linking those posts around in circles for 200 replies - was the thread really that good from the start?
>>29145670It wasn't a good thread. You could count the quality posts on your hands.
>>29145642Still tripping a little bit and very hungover. Maybe gonna puke in the next hour.
>>29143583>an endless queue of wagons one after the otherWouldn't it be more efficient to travel by train?
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>>29143730Gurney raced the car just once, at Silverstone in May. He was right about the Impala. He built a considerable lead over the Jaguars before a broken rear wheel put him out of the race—on the last lap. He tried to enter the car in another saloon race later that summer, this time on upgraded NASCAR wheels, but was told the car did not meet FIA specs.From Hot Rod magazine
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>>29143583Most of you maggot faggots weren't even alive back in the 90's, yet alone 60's.
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>>29143583round headlights should be made mandatory again
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>>29147146it would make a lot of cars look like shit and clash horribly with modern design language.
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>>29146317>Gurney ImpalaSo it never won any race? Hahaha
>>29147162is that a fucking Gobbos from Croc?
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>>29147198It's a meme in more retarded parts of the retro gaming world called "scrimblo bimblo" that tries to satirize the '90s gaming mascot style. Sorta like Kekcroc. I never played Croc but googling it, yeah it looks like those Gobbos were likely the inspiration for little Scrimblo up there.
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>>29143735I6s tend to be low revving and it's hard to get power out of them.
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>>29137960I heard that the Q/C of the Panthers had surpassed the B-bodies by the second half of the 80s. Seem to remember my grandmother bought an LTD after she heard in Consumer Reports that they had fewer issues and repairs reported than the B-bodies in owner survey data.
>>29147799idk it was probably pretty much the same. also by the late 80s the B-bodies were down to just the Caprice and wagons. both the B-body and Panther had their pluses and minuses.
>>29147799i suspect that could be because the LTD and Marquis had sequential multipoint injection by 86 while the B-bodies were still using a finicky electronic carburetor. Some people liked the carb better though.
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>>29147802Ford and GM had it as policy (ditto Chrysler with the M-bodies) that only the absolute minimum investment was to be put into these cars because by late 80s they were ancient as shit platforms from the last decade.>>29147804Quite a few Caprices still had the infamous THM 200 transmission so that could have something to do with it.
>>29147804the Caprice offered the 4.2L V6 if you were interested in economy while Panthers were V8-only so there was also that
