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>$70,000 for a V6>dealership fuckery>released when the world was getting buttfucked by COVID>no one has money anymore
>>29144469Nothing is wrong with the nu Z except the society it was released in, old Z released during a peak moment in /o/tist history, nu Z failed to capture the car enthusiast market because it doesn't exist anymore
>>29144469Same reason scion failedIt was marketed toward people who had no money to buy them
>>29144469They only made seven of them.
>>29144473>>$70,000 for a V6porsche and bmw charge 100k for a v6 and mcdonalds, here you get bones and the car is built by japaneese takumi and not mexicans or mystery meat romanian gypsies.
Its doesnt look like a Z car.It looks like a Tesla.DOA
>>29144544I love the rear end. Looks way better than any of the new bmw / lexus rears these days
>>29144552it looks amazing from some angles and absolutely putrid from others
>>29144469too expensive and manuals are for tryhards
>>29144469>looks plain>turbocharged nissan v6 engine>nearly as much as a corvette>nissan build quality>looks gay
>>29144542You're a fucking moron if you believe someone's going to drop $70k on a goddamn nissan when they could drop it on a bmw or porsche instead
>>29144469Okay here we go:>Nismo trim was released with automatic only. Manual transmission is new for 2027.>Base trim has no LSD. If you want LSD you need to spend an extra $10,000 for the Performance trim, starting at $55,000. Reminder that the Golf R starts at $51,000, GT Mustang V8 Premium is $53,000 (not base, fucking premium trim), etc.>Only factory wheel option is black wheels. To get chrome or bronze you must spend $3,800 for performance wheels from Nissan catalog.>Gay ass front bumper, fixed for 2027.It's a cool car, but they REALLY should have just added LSD to the base or eliminated base trim and reduced price on performance trim.It will be one of the most sought after used cars, but no one wants to be the retard who buys new.I think the 2027 model year will be more popular especially with the new green paint and tan interior, but that price is still just too high for what the car is (which is essentially a 25 year old car and 11 year old engine).
>>29144618There were also production issues early on that limited production for the first few years.I agree it could be cheaper, but the most realistic base price would be $39,999 and I don't even know if Nissan would be making a profit at that price.
>>29144473le v8 fags are braindead and insufferable.
>>29144633If the base model had an LSD it would be worth 45k.But when you force me into 55k for an LSD, it becomes a tough sell.I know you could do an aftermarket LSD on base model but I don't want to deal with warranty denials and shit. If I'm going to go that route I'm just going to wait 3 to 5 years and pick one up used.
>>29144469for the NISMO specifically?>too expensive>engine has no headroom>auto only>didn't fix the fuel starvation under high Gs
>>29144469Base model should have LSD and cost 30KMustang Egobukkake is $25K with LSD (I boughted brand new 2025 leftover in 2026 for that price, some nerds on Reddit even got a better price than me)
>>29144652To be fair it comes with a manual now and they added baffles to the fuel tank for 2027.
>>29144662what's the MSRP on the memestang?
Looks like an unfinished clay model and the effect is far more pronounced when you see one irl
nothing is
nothing is wrong with the nissian Z it is a perfect vehicle i love mine lsd for sport trim so to help the poorer in society understand physics better. THE NISSIAN Z MOGS ALL COMPETITORS ITS THE LAST OF SOVIET ENGINEERING EVOLUTION like many good things the Nissian Z graced the world and yet the world rejects what is good for the world is run by satanic jews and faggots from reddit. THE NISSIAN Z IS THE ULTIMATE EXPRESSION OF OLD STYLING AND MODERN ENGINEERING NISSIAN Z NATION RISE UP! RISE UP AND THROW OFF THE CHAINS OF THE RETARDED MASSES FOR ARGARTHA IS NISSIAN Z
>>29144469Nothing, especially now that the Camaro's gone and the nu-Mustangs kinda suck.Actually I can think of one thing: The stock tires are worse than comparable cars for no reason
>>29144469You could spend a little more and get a GR Supra. Or you could spend a lot less and get a GR86
Same as all the legacy Japanese sports cars. 90% of buyers who can afford them (and the markups) aren't buying them. Of the percentage of people who can afford it, most are tryhards buying luxury to impress. Realistically the market that loves the Z, Supra, Integra type S, *prelude* Skyline etc were never going to make enough to afford one.
>>29144606Yeah, he'd be moron for thinking that because the BMW and the Porsche cost $100k, like he already stated in his post you replied to without reading.
>>29144618The LSD/price issue is a problem but I don't think the wheels are a big deal. You can always get a better deal on aftermarket wheels and I'd be buying a second set anyway because I like to switch between winter tires and high performance tires when the seasons change.
>>29144469>ugly touchscreen garbage>slow v6let >gay epsThat’s far too many dealbreakers, plus they come with a hilariously HUGE lift for no reason
>>29144921>nooo used BMWs and Porsches literally don’t exist!!!Kek only tastelet women and old guys buy BMWs or Porsches with ugly slow touchscreens and faggy eps
>>29144965bmws are gross and brown-coded
>>29144977>ebonics
>>29144568>manuals are for tryhards
>>29144544Are you blind? It looks more like a Z than the last 4 generations of Zs.
>>29144542>bmw>v6
I don't even like mustangs but I would buy a mustang over this
>>29144542>porsche and bmwYes they are all shit, but at least these two get you social status if you are arab or black
>>29144618exactly what chased me into the mustang. just lower entry price and a rwd manual.
>>29144469Basically Nissan trusted dealerships and dealerships thought they were getting a super special show piece I stead of getting sent 350z levels of Z's. Resulted in dealerships overcharging to make up for lost inventory space and people not buying a fucking 80k v6 sports car
>>29144469Should be cheaper, at least I thought it would be almost on the GR86/BRZ level. Otherwise it's a pretty good option if you wanna buy new since the only other real option is the Mustang, which I'm not fond of thanks to the interiorUnless you mean the Nismo in specific, in that case not offering a manual in this day and age just killed the hype around it, because if you wanna get an auto only "sports" car there are better options out there
>>29144469>nissan
>>29144469>what went wrongNissan had a reputation in the USA of having dogshit quality because of their economy lineup having shitass CVT transmissions from garbage company, Renault. They also got beat to the punch by Toyota and Honda who have had a foothold in the "fun sporty car" category for years before this new Z was released. Nissan was late. A true shame. They might release something cool later with Mitsubishi technology, but we've yet to see it. They pretty much gave up on their Infiniti line as well.>>29144544>Its doesnt look like a Z car.you're dumb
>>29144652>engine has no headroomSonicTuned and Racebox has nearly doubled the base power on a Z>auto onlyfixed for 2027>didn't fix the fuel starvation under high Gsalso fixed for 2027>too expensiveagree here. the nismo Z is BMW M2 money which is a significantly better car with more prestige or a Mustang Dark Horse money which is nuts and has the highly desirable 5.0. The price is the biggest thing killing the nismo Z and really the whole Z lineup. This car is a parts bin car based on a 20 year old design and powered by an infiniti v6 from 10 years ago. There's no reason it should cost what it costs.
>>29144688Someone should have melted that before they could finish
>>29144469I wish this nigga stopped messing with family vans and AI integration and actually go through with the Silvia nameplate. They need to go against Toyota's Yaris/GR Corolla/GR86. Honda fumbled on Prelude and Mazda is MIA.
>>29144618>It will be one of the most sought after used cars, but no one wants to be the retard who buys new.I think I may be that retardWhat's stopping me from buying is that I can't decide between the green and the bayside blue
>>29144473>dealership fuckerythis is exactly what happened, and what keeps happening with any fun car. dealers are cunts
>>29147180Mazda will keep the ND going as long as they can because they know whatever comes next won't be able to replace it
>>29147206Get the green with tan interior.Performance trim, manual transmission.It's pricy but you will have an insanely fun car.Afterwards report back and let me know how the sound system is, I hear it's good.
>>29144469Too expensive. Since it is slower than a mustang it needs to be cheaper than a mustang or the buyer pool cuts drastically. Normal buyers (most people) aren't buying it for love of the Z and its history, they are buying it for sports car reasons which are>fast>fun>good lookingIf a cheaper car is faster, it will hurt the sales of a mass produced sports car 100% of the time.
>>29147380The nismo z shits on the mustang GT in everyway (same with the 2027 perforamnce). It also looks better and handles better and isn't a pigfat boat. you see mustangs on every corner.What is this astroturfing cope on the Z?
>>29147376>Afterwards report back and let me know how the sound system is, I hear it's good.Of all things you just want to know about the sound system?! I don't listen to music when I drive because I like listening to the roar of the engine.
>>29147747>The nismo z shits on the mustang GT in everyway (same with the 2027 perforamnce)>b-b-b-b-b-b-but my $68k nismo is marginally faster than a $50k mustang!!!!!!!1111!!!!!1! Cope more. Stopped reading there. BTW it's probably slower than the equivalently priced dark horse. Imagine your precious pure nippon sports car getting BTFO by burgercrap. Couldn't be me.
>>29147180"AI integration" is literally just updating the already present computer generation software.thats it, that's how they are able to get a new skyline next month. Really Nissan is just doing what china already did and other automakers are too slow to do, simply updating systems.
>>29144469PriceyShit economyDealer fuckery20yo platform no matter how good it is will make people think twiceI dont like the front,shouldve went for the long nose styleAnd that grey looks trash
>>29147815>Pricey>Shit economykys poorfag and ricer, what the FUCK is that monstorsity you posted lol holy shit
>>29147172i love nissan
>>29144469>costs the same as a fucking C8 corvette>slower than a v6 mustang designed for foids that's half the pricejapcrap sisters... ITS OVER
>>29147823This Nissan has made improvements in all their vehicles in their current lineup. The frontier is basically superior to the tacoma at this point. Meanwhile toyota is shitting the bed producing spicshit cars from it's mexico econobox plant with exploding engines. Nissan is becoming the new toyota and toyota is becoming the new nissan
>>29147959>erm anon did you just heckin disrespect muh söyota taco? like totally unwholesome 100! your le cvt explodes or something
>>29147380They should have just had different drive train optipn to scale it out more too like how the the pony cars had turbo i4'sThey could have just slapped the 2.5 in there and sold it for $2-3k less than the 86/brz (crazy what these go for now)It would have been like a modern 240sx and Z car at the same time. That thing was like 150-155 hp. Might have been like 100lb less than the 370z. I remember seeing some dealers in my state trying to sell the base Z model for like $55k for quite a while
>>29147959I guess it's pretty expensive to slightly retool and change the deck height, that 3.8 would probably be a lot better off if it had a bit longer of a stroke. Still I agree. These people are nuts for paying so much for a turbo 4 banger in a truck. Last year there were tons of SR5's that my dealer was trying to sell for $60-$65k. Even if buyers talked them down $10 grand that's just absurd.They were moving them though, the new 4-Runners seem like they're harder to sell, I also don't think they look as good as the last gen.Seen a few things that people are having issues with the higher mileage 2.4's because apparently despite what Toyota claims, none of them should really be running on 87; who would have imagined...
>>29147822Hand and bread on car now,bus goyYou can even put your mothers roast beef on the hood if you are on keto diet
>>29147957This retard here really believes his v6 mustang goes 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds. I suppose i got baited though.
>>29147163Dude, even for a revision of a revision of a chassis there's still no way it would have cost less than an 86/brz with their turbo v6. That thing isn't some giga produced powertrain, didn't they only previously have it on a few low volume Infinity sedan/coupes? It probably shares some tooling with their other v6's but I still doubt it's anything like how Toyota and Honda have made an absurd amount of theirs and amortized the hell out of it.Back when the twins first came out and CAFE was just starting Toyota could totally have slapped the V6 in those for at least 4 years. It was okay in their Camry but not their sports car?>What we ruse 2.1% of our upcoming Supra buyers to poverty sport car rite trim young peopre want??Like what else could have been the thinking, that would have fit in there
>>29147815https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_FM_platform
At the crank Z is like 430hp 430 tq, people really trying to bring this car down. They addressed all the complaints and fixed it for the 2027 models, yet people still complaining.
>>29148021>Hand and bread on car nowHow about you put your mouth on my dick, wrenchlet faggot ricer
>>29144469They didn't put the VK56 in it and stretch the hood for the Datsun look. Most people would've payed $70k for that.
>>29147747>nismo z shits on the mustang GTIsn't that shitbox like $70k + dealer markup + tip? It better shit on a fucking $50k mustang for that price. >>29148143that would have been kino
We've had several come through at my stealership. I'm a detail wagie. They're fine, I guess. I guess you have to like them being they are just about the last interesting thing this company makes. I don't like having parking sensors on a sports car...or anything else. One guy ordered one with the heritage package. Midnight purple with 3 pedals.
>>29148143the vk56 doesn't fit. The Z has a integral secondary firewall that must be removed for it to fit. Most likely would need a whole new crash certification with NHTSA to approve changes. Not happening. >>29148293idk why that anon was comparing a nismo Z to the GT. The Dark Horse is the nearly identical price comparison. Mustang DH is a nuclear bomb to Nissans coughing baby. I have no idea why anyone would cross-shop these when the performance is so drastically different.
>>29148128didn't soi geese dyno it and find out it makes less than the zupra?
>>29148540>It doesn't fit not happeningI already implied that it wouldn't fit, that's why you stretch the hoodI don't want to hear whining about the Z not being successful when Nissan keeps selling people an old car and refusing to break into the car
>>29147180>mazda is MIAND3 got cracked, mazda can be MIA for the next 50 years now that any ND can be boosted to retard power levelswant bones, an LSD, and a power/weight that beats nearly anything on the road? supercharger kit, header/midpipe/exhaust, and rodsthrowing yourself into a tree at 110 mph is just icing on the cake
>>29144996He's right. Busriders pretend to like manuals so that they can pretend to have street-cred while they pretend to have a car
>>29144469way too fucking expensive. And not even the MSRP, the dealer markup
>>29148541Supra is like 10k more expensive retard lol
>>29149509Only on paper, when you go to the Nissan dealer it'll magically be 20k over
>>29148132nissan fanboy is a cum slurping homo, who would have thought
