In so happy dealers are all getting fucked. Fuck you. Fuck boomers too. And Jews.
>>29145844Reminder that /o/ would more than advocate paying prices like that for the mighty cuck cruiser >>29145470 on the basis of le supply and demand.
>>29145858i don't come here often since it's just 20 year olds who think they're hot shit with a 3 series. i just had no where to post this
>>29145844Thats still $44,885 at the end of the day (before hidden fees)Just 5-6 years ago a 250/2500 was $32,000 with some basic options
>>29145870no one other than boomers are leasing a 3/4 ton.fuck all of these people
>>29145844And these new trucks have problems 5-10years down the line. The price I could live with if the reliability was there. A 2006 duramax still runs like new today and goes for 30k+ with low miles. Keep your 2000’s vehicles. The new used market in 10 years will be HELL.
>>29145881yeah that's cool in the south. a chebby has a 3 year life span in the rust belt
>>29145870>>29145873Have you considered that no one is actually leasing them at all? Just because the dealership offers a lease deal doesn't mean there's hordes of strawmen busting down the doors to get it. Shit if you were a dealership you would offer that deal too. Damn good deal.
>>29145885Jesus Quran booga booga. You’re on a car forum. Just sand it and coat it. Wash regularly. Maintain it. wtf you doing with your time?
>>29145889you don't live herecome to new york and look for a 5 year old chevy. it's trash
>>29145885mazdas rust even sooner than that.
>>29145886The vast majority of high trim 1/2 and 3/4 tons are leased. You can usually get some pretty good lease deals on them and they're easy business write offs. Dealers love leases because they get a well cared for and low mileage truck after 2-4 years that they can then finance out to some retard at the new MSRP at 20% interest.
>>29145894>The vast majority of high trim 1/2 and 3/4 tons are leasedYou're literally making this up. There's no actual evidence to support this.
>>29145870who cares it's all tax write offs just write off as a business expenses and save money on your taxes im TALL and rich have 10 f-250s ALL write offs
>>29145903I got real world data. The proof is out there. >Rapid Growth in Truck Leasing: According to transaction data from Edmunds, the percentage of pickup trucks being leased has more than doubled over recent years as luxury trims and heavy-duty options push sticker prices past $60,000 to $90,000+.
>>29145913>an unspecified percentage has doubledwow, that sure sounds like "the vast majority".
>>29145914Go ask your insurance broker how many new trucks are leased vs purchased.
>>29145916I did, and he said you're a nigglet making shit up.
>>29145913>>29145914>>29145916>>29145917fgihttps://www.bts.gov/content/new-and-used-passenger-car-sales-and-leases-thousands-vehicles
>>29145916Why should I have to go collect data in order to prove your claims true or false? It's your job to do that before making such claims. Plus, I doubt my insurance company is going to just tell me something like that because I asked nicely. And I don't even think the insurance company knows the means by which the truck was acquired in the first place. They only interact with you, not the dealership. You tell them you need full coverage and there's no difference if it's on a paid off, leased, or financed car.But most importantly you're full of shit.
>>29145918"Light Truck" (includes non truck vehicles)excellent data.
>>29145919You don't have to do shit. I did all the data collection for you. I can see you're a no-car who has never registered or insured a vehicle. Figures.
>>29145881Expiring leases from the first real post COVID production year (2024) will hit in the spring and drive used car prices down. There should be an additional 400,000 leases expiring next to your compared to this year. Also add in that new EVs in general just got a %33 range boost across the board.Next year will be some nice relief for a used car prices, 2029 is when the market collapses back to pre COVID figures.
>>29145891You know fords super duty’s, Tundras, Tacomas, even Ridgelines for your fagget ass survive the rust belt. You don’t have to doom on the mighty Reliable Duramax because you’re a fagget and are afraid to take chances and make decisions to move away from shitty parts of the country. Also, since you’re so close, you could move to Canada for their excellent healthcare :) don’t be scared. Embrace opportunities.
>>29145922>I did all the data collection for you>"Can we see it?">No it's a secret only for me just trust me bro
>>29145923And these reliable 2000s engines and bodies will be worth more. I guarantee it. I have a low mileage cars between 2006 and 2016 that no 2025 will compete with.
>>29145923>Two more weeks!
>>29145928>2000s cars>ReliableLmao
>>29145925sir do you have aids from all the gay sex you have?
>>29145920if you have better data, put up or shut up
>>29145844i dont have 7200 just waiting to be given to a dealership to rent a car i can only drive like 200 miles a year
>>29145881A 2006 duramax has shit the bed 3 times already due to being garbage. New trucks generally run rings around old ones
>>29145873>>29145894>>29145913>>29145916>>29145918My dad literally WORKS for Ford and he said the percentage "doubled" from .5% to 1%.
>>29146305My dad works for Nintendo
>>29145909The financial illiteracy is what makes your generation poor.A "tax writeoff" is just money you dont have to pay taxes on.If you were paying 50% taxes and spent $100k on a business expense, then you dont have to pay that $50k in taxes.If you DIDNT spend that $100k on business expenses and payed the 50% tax rate you'd have an extra $50,000 afterwards.Stay poor.
>>29146722But then you don’t have a truck that makes money.
>>29146735>$100k truck.>0 taxes paid on $100k>0 money leftoverVs>$50k truck.>50% tax paid on remainder $50k>have extra $25k
>>2914674825k is basically nothing now. Congrats on saving that I guess. Enjoy your vinyl seats and underpowered engine.
>>29146748Imagine not taking that $25k leftover and spending it on more equipment... ISHYGDDT. >>29146749>25k is basically nothing now.This.
>>29146749>>29146759And thats why youre poor.
>>29146814You know what they say about assumptions poorfag
This thread was supposed to be about dealers cratering because they're all scumbags. Not poorfags and retards arguing about money
I was just at the ferd dealer for some parts, some old fart was getting his F350 serviced and the estimate was $1200. Including 2 ea fuel filters at $280 each.Yikes
It's over for dealerships>it's overit's over>it's over
>>29146749>>29146759Thats an example you fucking tardo. When people get to that level of business when you do a balancing act with taxes they will stiff you on any and everything just to try save a couple dollars. One of my first large projects was one of those emergency projects where they were desperate so I was able to get all my deposits and payments on time because I literally couldnt operate on "we will pay you next week" when the equipment was out of diesel and payday is tomorrow so I laid it out to them and as I was the only one willing to work with them (known business crooks from when I was young but we were good socially) we went right near the end when an extension came along that I requested a deposit on that was close to my orinigal closing (no retainer). I got that. And then some new issue came up where the project came to a halt. Since I didnt mobilize they were demanding back the deposit on that portion but I indicated that I will apply that to the outstanding on the original contract. After a little back and forth they were just like "fuck you....but you arent getting that last $678". Lol I said no problem, call me when you are ready to actually do some real work again.They are always cutting $5 here $1,000 there. It all adds up to a 90 foot pleasure cat at some point.
>>29146848any time you have a thread about laughing at dealers, you are guaranteed to have people who run with the "Warren Buffett drives a normal person car so that means anybody who drives anything not 15 years old and shit when it was new is poor!" and how that directly translates into all dealerships being the devil and the only right way to buy or sell cars being meeting sketchy weirdos in gas station parking lots, never seeing them again, and hoping they didn't scam you
>>29146954I do love cats
>>29145923>Expiring leases from the first real post COVID production year (2024) will hit in the spring and drive used car prices down.i think your misguided here. "post-covid production" doesnt matter. interest rates are what matter. interest rates were hiked in 2022. the latest you could have gotten a low-interest loan was early 2022. all of those leases should have expired by now
>>29146969>the latest you could have gotten a low-interest loan was early 2022not even really the point, if a lease expires then it either gets replaced by a new car, and the previous car reenters the market, or it gets bought out at the end and the supply of new cars doesn't shrink, putting downward pressure on new prices and downstream downward pressure on used prices ("I could buy a new one for that much!")
>>29146749How is 25k nothing? There's lots of entire vehicles brand new in the $30k range. Leaves you with an entire brand new shitbox in budget as a secondary vehicle. I literally bought my maverick hybrid awd for $29.2k and spruced it up with $2k of shit and it's a god tier utility vehicle dd combo I can do everything with
>>29146634My dad works for JCB
>>29145844Don’t buy new cars
>>29147115>How is 25k nothing?Theyre basement dwelling NEETs that think (their parent's) money is infinite.
>>29147356No I just spend time in the real world. Everything is expensive and 25k doesn’t buy you a lot. People who think that is a lot of money are generally so broke that it ain’t funny. People who work for 15 an hour as slaves.
>>29147359Even at 100k salary, 25k is still 3 months pay. That's not nothing. But yeah, it doesn't go nearly as far as it did 10 years ago
>>29147359>>29147368See thats the thing. 10 years ago 25k bought a fucking lot. In 2017 there were F150's going for 17k out the dealers lots.Now its 40k for the base model. Thats a good chunk over double. Salaries have not even gone up 20%. 25k doesnt buy shit but it hurts the financials so much more than previously.
>>29145894Low mileNigga you dont shop trucks often if you think any 2 year old truck for sale is low mile
>>29148002You do know leases have yearly mileage limits right? High mileage leases can be negotiated but they're not very common. Most are ~10k miles a year so worst case scenario they have a 2 year old truck with 20k miles. That's hardly high mileage.
>>29146848What needs to happen more but it isSimple shoppingMf just walk to the closest dealer and let them fuck there shit upI had three dealers confirm discounts before bothering to show upUSE THE MANUFACTURE INVENTORY SITESORT LOW TO HIGH
>>29146958The only thing I ever remember about that guy and cars is him buying up old Lincolns and putting a lot of money in them because>I tell ya, no one makes ' like they used taBut sure, I bet that guy has a Camry or something for a photo and to gas light people kek
>>29148007Lease can anything mateWhile its better now good luck finding a 2024+ with less than 50,000 most will be 100,000+
>>29148018Oh yeah and when you doComapre its price to>>29148011Not even remotely worth it just get a new truck
>>29148018>Lease can anything Sure but were not talking about super specific high mileage commercial fleet leases. Were talking normal people leases. It sounds like you need to stop looking at jeet uber mobiles. Those are not off leases.
>>29146814I spend every last cent I can on tax deductible stuff to bring my profit down as much as possible and just hoard assets like you cannot believe. On paper I make next to nothing and pay almost nothing in taxes, yet live quite comfortably. More comfortably than you in fact.
>>29148017this is really all you need to know about him
>>29146722>earnestly replying to a trollpost
>>29148038>buying unneeded equipment that just sits in the yard deteriorating instead of investing the extra capital.This is why youre poor and still grinding away at 50.
>>29148348>Nah bro, just give your money to jews. They'll take care of you I promise! Sure thing bud.
>>29148427People genuinely can’t imagine that life. It’s weird discussing money with normies.
>>29148432All I know is I get a bigger % of return from increasing my capacity, capabilities, and ease of life from re-investing in my farm than the return I would ever get from stonks. I'm hedging against the future by purchasing things that will only go up in value or rarity, all while increasing assets that I will pass on to my kids so they will have all the capabilities I do to print money in the future. Other people invest in other's money printers, I'm investing in my own.
>>29148436Yup, if you are worth any amount of salt you should be able to outperform any stonk by investing in your own business. More equipment and land will always do better than the big stock funds doing 10-15% a year.
>>29148436Youre 50 years old and shoveling shit for a living.I retired at 40 and have more land than you and more money in the bank because you never did any financial planning.Enjoy dying of a heart attack alone in a cow pasture.
>>29148551I don't believe you
>>29148614Of course you don't. Your hubris wont allow you to believe someone else has made better choices in life.I spent today hammering in T-posts and laying out deer corn at a hunting cabin that im donating to the Wounded Warrior project. Because at this point if I died tomorrow my grandchildren will be financially secure so I can afford a little philanthropy.What do your kids get? A yard full of 40 yearold dump trucks and front loaders they can flip on craigslist for $5k apiece?Instead of running your mouth and saying "im better than everyone" you should stop and look aroind and think "damn, how'd he get there- maybe I should do things a little differently".
>>29148777Lol, that wasn't even me. You know there's more than one person on this board right?
>>29148777I think you are just a larping retard.
>>29148777You are definitely making your life story up.
>>29148868Well your 2 second sound bite was in the same category as that loser so maybe you should reevaluate yourself.>>29148881What kind of proof do you want? Some piece of paper showing (one of) my accounts with $1.2 million in it?>>29148923I have a wikipedia page.Do you?
>>29148938Post T pounder
>>29148987He said hammering them in, so he probably doesn't even know what a t post pounder is. Lol.
>>29149015Maybe he is one of those retards who uses wood post hammers on Ts? Works in soft ground but fucks em up if you find a rock.
>>29148777>Instead of running your mouth and saying "im better than everyone"When did I ever say this? If you're the pussy-ass from the bench seat work truck thread that needs massaged seats to cope then I never said I was better than you, just that bench seats are fine if you are actually using your truck for work, which you obviously do not. You can still just go ahead and admit you're soft. Probably from "retiring" at 40. Lol. I suppose you weren't doing anything worthwhile anyways so why not just go ahead and retire...
>>29148938>I have a wikipedia page.>Do you?George Floyd has one too. I imagine you're cut from the same cloth.
>>29148938Post Wikipedia page
>>29148938>I have a wikipedia page.
>>29149015ESL much?
>>29149396You pound t posts dumbass. That is the correct verb for that equipment.
>>29145844>7.2k down>780 monthly LEASE paymentThis will get me to the office AND have enough space for a costco run :)
>>29148987
>>29149409So this retard is supposedly worth more than everybody here but only has a band new hand pounder. Good larp buddy.
>>29149413Have a few pounders for when friends are helping. Why would I use one of the old ones when I have a new one?Had a 49cc gas powered but it was more of a hassle and really only good for hard or rocky soil. Not an issue on this property and im not some fat lazy fuck so manual is the correct tool for the job.Friend has a nice electric but battery isnt really a good idea when youre running 2 miles of posts.
>>29149430I don’t understand why you would have multiple even if you have friends helping. You just hand it off to the next person. I’ve done assloads of them by hand when I was young and poor now I just use my machine to knock em down quickly. But I guess it’s just useless equipment right?
>>29149444>just stand there while someone else uses it and wait for your turn.And your attachment is worthless in a forest. Im sure its great for open pasture but all of my properties, even my house, is forested.
>>29149216kek
>>29149460Why on earth would it be useless it goes on a skidsteer. Half my shit is forest
>>29149466If you can drive a skidsteer through your "forest" then its not a forest. Its just a few randomly placed trees.
>>29149409>Fresh never used t-post pounder. Checks out.
>>29149444I'm looking into getting one of those that can drive in railroad ties as my next purchase... Gotta spend that sweet cattle money before the end of the year.
>>29149476>his tools arent rusty and abused like mine so it must have never been used!!Always easy to spot the trailer trash that leaves their tools sliding around in the bed of their truck because theyre too lazy to clean up after a job.
>>29149491If you were half the man you claim to be, you would have a fence post pounder, fence stretcher, fencing pliers, barbed wire, spud bar, post hole diggers, and shovels on hand in your daily driver at all times.Nice larp though.
>>29149469You cut the roads you fucking idiot. Should be doing that anyway so trees don’t fall on your alleged fence. Just don’t turn on stumps and it’ll go anywhere
>>29149480One of the best investments I’ve made. I decided to stop being a dumb nigger running a manual one.
>>29149496LOFucking LYour fence is so shit and you have to mend it so often that its not worth the time to put your tools up?!>>29149550>just bulldoze your trees because youre too fucking lazy to use hand tools.Just how fat are you?
>>29149570Not lazy or fat just getting shit done much faster and better. I guess if I were a man I would forgo using equipment to make hay as well. Scythes are all this guy need amirite?
>>29149573Hilarious how the use of items for comfort changes to fit your narrative. What a fucking tool.And I guarantee youre obese.
>>29149604Wrong again. 6’2 215 last I checked. Any more dumb statements Mr manly man? You better not be using any electric drills or people might think you are a baby.
>>29149570You don't maintain any fence and it shows big time. I thought you said you're retired. Why are you pretending like you do anything worthwhile? Go read your Wikipedia page again. Maybe edit it to say you "hammered" in some t-posts one time. Lmao!
>>29149948I have nearly a mile of fence one on property I put up a decade ago that ive had to mend 3 times in those ten years.You either don't know what youre doing or you have sone rusted out trash from the 1800s that should have been changed oit a generation ago.So which one is it?
>>29149948Dude is genuinely brain dead. Guess in his larping trees don’t fall and animals don’t fuck up his fence.
>>29150184You have trees fall and animals fuck up your fence weekly?
>>29150194More like monthly. Cows can fuck up fences and heavy wind storms can cause issues.
>>29145923
>>29146912respect the grift
>>29150197So you're defending the practice of leaving your equipment in the bed of your truck to rust out because you "might" need them a month from now?
>>29150238I generally keep most stuff in the cab of my local truck. Pliers and hammers are pretty useful to keep around. Pounders can stay out in the bed or hung in a nail in a barn. Those fuckers ain’t gonna rust out. Neither will most equipment. Not like you would know.
>>29150166>I have nearly a mileNEARLY A MILE! LOFUCKINGL
>>29145920good truck
>>29150197>I cut roads to keep trees from damaging my fence>trees damage my fenceAs for the cattle- youre using the wrong fence, its improperly installed or your field is over populated. If you rhink monthly fence damage is normal than you really are an idiot. I share a fence line with one of my neighbors rotation fields for his black Angus and over the decades I can count the mends on one hand and we have wild boars and bear here so try a different excuse next time.>>29150274>one example from.one property with a timeframe for reference.Good job showing your lack of reading comprehension. How's that studying for your GED progressing?
>>29150443This larper want to say anything about cattle. You really need to consider killing yourself.
>>29150444>4 minute response timeBasement dwelling NEET confirmed. No wonder all your posts sound like some grovelling little bitch. Keep licking the balls of the fat dipshit that cant figure out how to keep a fence up, maybe he'll give you some more (you)s.
