Why shouldn’t I buy picrel? I found one for $50, 1990, 30k miles.
You spend $50k on a car. You now have car and $0. These car parts are either unobtainable or catastrophically expensive.
>>29149802Yup, a Jiffy lube will charge a few thousand and probably break something into the bargain.There was an MOT (annual test) place that basically told someone with a sporty car (I was stood there waiting for mine) that his car wouldn't fit their ramp so F* off.
>>29149791That's probably the best bang for your buck when it comes to kino. But you could get a way better bang for your buck in terms of performance.
>>29149791just get a base Corolla and move on goddamn
>>29149791Honestly not a bad deal if you can wrench on stuff yourself and refurbish parts. Nothing will really require a complete part replacement, just get it on jacks and take it to a machine shop. In the mean time just drive a cheap beater you can also fix yourself. Ez pz.
You stumbled upon a real hidden gem here, OP.You'd be a fool to pass on that. It'll only go up in value and you get to drive a Ferrari.Junkyards have so many parts for these that they're starting to throw them out.
>>29149791Having $50k to spend on a car means different things to different people.$50k budget for your daily driver? see >>29149802.$50k disposable bullshit money and you've already maxed your 401k contributions for the year? see >>29149822.
it's a b8 thread, morons
I wish I'd thought to buy a "bad" Ferrari around 2010 when I was first looking at cars. You could find 308s listed for $15K. Those things are worth a ton more now.
>full restorationwhat?
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>>29149836richfag in SoCal who has a friend with a machine shop to fab his own replacement parts since official factory ones are unobtainium. for $50k he'll machine a valve head for that thing that matches the original's specs.
>>29149843that's what the Duesenberg people do
Ferraris are 100% disposable cars. You buy it, race it around for a bit until you crash it into a tree or the engine blows up at 30k miles from running at 9k rpm and you throw it away and buy a new one.
>>29149847They ARE sold to people that can afford to do that. The expensive ones are provided to you at a circuit you name by a support team that will take it back from you at the end of the day.
as he said, the engines in these things run under such extreme force that they don't last too long and there's no replacement parts so you just throw it away and buy a new one
Do it OP. Iwas in a similar situation decades ago, but let a woman talk me out of it.
>>29149843>richfag in SoCal who has a friend with a machine shop to fab his own replacement parts since official factory ones are unobtainium. for $50k he'll machine a valve head for that thing that matches the original's specs.i suppose you could have someone make DIY parts and the average Ferrari owner could certainly afford to have it done, but as he said they're highly disposable cars and everyone wants a new one not a 35 year old model.
>>29149848Sounds GAAAAY!
>>29149858>when a supercar that cost $90,000 in 1990 is now worth as much as 90 Cavalier, except the Cavalier has a higher chance of being in driveable condition
>>29149847it's like a richfag's Hyundai
>>2914979130k is the engine's expiration date when it blows the valve cover from the extreme RPMs and compression used
>>29149791Do it!
>>29149815>>29149802Apparently parts are easily obtainable for most things due to sharing. But yeah, it has the looks of a supercar but only 300hp.
>>29149896The 348 which was Ferrari's entry-level model back then. More of a Corvette or Supra-class car with a mildly tuned V8 instead of the V12 from the flagship models. Not as potent but more suited for street driving and probably more reliable as the engine isn't worked as hard.
>>29149900more than you can afford pal
>>29149791a fool and his money are soon parted
>>29149791Go ahead anon, live a little.
>>2914979120k on a car. 30k on the roadtrip of a lifetime. Bring friends
Maintenance costs my dude.I knew a guy with a 89 Porche he bought for $10k... $15k of repairs later....A Ferrari for $50k, yeah I bet that's going to cost some $ to fix.If your not going to drive it more than 1-2x a week it might be ok.Personally I just buy cars I like and drive them into the ground or sell them when they're only worth a couple of thousand.To give you an idea of how bad its gotten with repair costs and maintenance, I got a mechanical work quote. Took 30 days for one guy to get back to me and another didn't.The guy who got back to me didn't even quote me the correct thing despite me providing clearly labeled photos.If you can't work on your car your at the mercy of people like that. Fortunately for me I can do most things on a car that don't involve an Exotic.But that's what you can end up dealing with op, utter incompetence or nobody who wants to do the job at a reasonable rate.
>>29149963this scene is legitimately one of the major reasons why I'm holding back, lol. I just know I could have a much faster JDM car of the era that would be cheaper to maintain and faster in corners and on straights. Buy-in price would be about the same though, and if you asked anyone they'd prefer a Ferrari over a Toyota or Mitsubishi.
interior is clean. Has harnesses but OEM seats look like they're in good shape.
I'm guessing it'll need a belt job.
>>29149791Money pit. Just enjoy the pictures
>>29149791Cost of maintenance.>>29149896>only 300hp.People are so spoiled these days. You wouldn't even use all of the 300hp, buddy. But something that old has probably lost quite a bit of that horsepower.>>29150118>*contributes nothing to discussion*I don't know, when are you going back?
>>29149900if that was a Testarossa it would just make a nice lawn ornament
29150126i know this spammer. it's the assembly language LARPer from /vr/. i'd recognise his posting style anywhere.
>>29150015>>29150016>>29150019Honestly looks like a good deal to me but I'm pretty much exactly what >>29149826 called out, I have nothing but bullshit money and I fucking love cars. I'm not scared of a ferrari engine, there isn't anything I wouldn't be able to figure out or get my guys to make.Only negative is that now you're the guy with a Ferrari and the image it comes with it.
>>29149791For 50 bucks I'd buy it for scrap too sure.
>>29150185as he said you're lucky this is an entry level V8 model where the engine isn't run as hard as the 12 cyl flagship Ferraris
>>29149900only 3.4L, huh? i think the Vette would have the edge there lol
>>29150189>>29150140i was surprised to learn the Testarossa engine was a fair bit smaller than the SBC
>>29150200it's 299 cid and is smaller and has less torque than a SBC, they just ran it at super-high compression and RPMs so the thing had a remarkably short lifespan.
Ferrari are also a comically racist company. They will not sell cars to non-whites, that's what Lamborghini is for. If a rapper or NBA star tries to buy one they're told to fuck off. Prince Harry or Tom Cruise wants to buy a Ferrari? Sure, what color interior do you want?
>>29150492>Ferrari are also a comically racist company.Good. We need more principled companies and based leaders in the world.
>>29150492>Ferrari are also a comically racist companyBased.
>>29150202the 12 cylinder setup is mainly to reduce to manageable levels vibration which increases the higher RPM an engine runs at
>>29150513k i'm not that expert on automotive engineering
>>29150516basically,>torque is a product of displacement mainly, bigger displacement, more torque>higher cylinder counts allow lower vibration as compression and HP increases because the energy is distributed among more cylinders>a 3.2L V6 or V8 would produce the same torque but the V8 runs smoother and you can boost it more with lower vibration levels>four cylinder gas engines tend to max out at 2.6L because vibration gets too high after that>diesel engines run at very low RPMs so you can have a 3 or 4L diesel I4 while that isn't possible with a gas engine unless you have approximately the compression level of a pre-WW1 T-head engine (some of those early fours and sixes were quite huge because the compression was so low--the all-time record was Oldsmobile's 707 cid I6 from 1912--this monster made all of 48 hp)>the largest currently produced I4 is the Mitsubishi 4M41, a diesel 3.2L
>>29150524>the all-time record was Oldsmobile's 707 cid I6 from 1912--this monster made all of 48 hp>eleven fucking litersdespite the massive size the gas mileage was probably not that bad at such low compression. maybe 12 mpg?
Something about natural harmonic frequencies, sorta like the harmonics notes on a guitar.Also something about whether the engine pulses cancel each other out. On a flat-4 the diagonal pistons cancel rotation around the crankshaft.Let's say you have an inline-4 and cylinders 3 and 4 fired at the same time, it'd cause a lot of strain on the crank bearings because of how unbalanced it is.
>>29150019check the fuel lines too.a Ferrari 355 caught fire because of an poorly place hose clamp.
>>29150524that is to say an I4 at 120 hp is under more stress than a V8 at 120 hp. this applies to any displacement, although the bigger the I4 is the more it will vibrate. in either case, the tl;dr is that more cylinders allows the energy from engine operation to be dispersed more and put less strain on the individual cylinders.
>>29149802This, get ready to pay the Ferrari tax. Our old Porsche suffered from this. A fucking fuel pump was like $700, and the best part no one knew how to fix it, unless you live near a big city like New York or LA a standard mechanic will be clueless if / when something needs to be replaced and if there is some kind of electrical or reliability issue they will not be able to find it and you will be playing whack a mole replacing items to fix the issue and none of these parts are cheap or even found in some cases
>>29150563i know. most exotics are only found in places with LA with lots of richfags so all parts support and technical expertise will be there, not in East Sisterfuck, Oklahoma (but they do know a lot about Third Gen F-bodies there)
>>29150529I'd thought this engine was a T-head but it was an L-head apparently.
>>29150200the Testarossa of the same year as OP car (1990) had 380 hp in US spec and slightly more in European spec due to less emissions regulations there. you're correct that the flat 12 config was used to smooth out performance compared to a V8 even though it's a relatively small sub-5L engine.
>>29150555but the larger displacement the more boost it can take, no?
>>29150563$200. Basically the same as my mazda.
Maybe. The F355 used to be like 40k and look at it now.
>>29150675there's a reason why we don't just make a one cylinder engine that's like 4L because it would shake itself to pieces
>>29150675smaller engines actually rev higher because obviously they're lighter weight and have less friction. a big block V8 is relatively low-revving but it doesn't have to rev that high because it has loads of torque.
>>29150684You probably could, It wouldn't rev for shit and would out potato pretty much anything.Pic is an I4 with 8 litre pots.