Anyone from /out/ tell me if the Kantamus 60L is worth it? Looking for an endgame backpack that will survive the apocalypse.
I dont know about that brand. I got the tasmanian tiger tt modular trooper pack. The 55l one. At the time it seemed like a waste of money but ive had it for 5 years now and it is bullet proof. Not only is it made to far higher specs than everything else I hurt myself quite badly and I need surgery. My L5-S1 disc is bulging out 9mm I cannot move without pain. I thought that would be the end of my hiking but the huge 'battle belt' that locks to my hips keeps my disc straight and transfers the weight perfectly. Thus I cannot recommend this pack enough.
>>2844795Thanks for the info. I like the look of them and the support looks class! Thanks!
They make military shit that can withstand abuse and neglect. If you want to larp as a conscript of the Finnish Defence forces and have gear that you can give to your grandchildren, buy Savotta.Your wallet and back will not be pleased.
Savotta stuff is good.
>>2844793Yes their gear is worth it, you also pay royally for it. It's designed for military use.
>>2844793Savotta makes good gear for the price. A forum I go on loves their stuff. Anything Varusteleka sells is pretty decent. Their knives are the upgraded mora I was spending a long time looking for. And their Skrama 240 is a fantastic multipurpose knife hatchet hybrid.
/p/ fag here, I bought a Savotta Kukkaro to hold my camera as a crossbody bag. Great quality, durable as hell, and from anecdotal evidence very water resistant. Last week I cycled about 70km through pouring rain with the bag on my back, about three and a half hours.I was completely soaked by the end, but the inside of the bag was still dry.
That pack weighs more than some people's kit for a 6 month hike... Fine if you're being paid to grind away your knee cartilage and develop back problems as a Finnish conscript but not for the free man who wants to walk long distances.What is it for beyond military use? Carrying an obscene amount of shit in an industrial application? It's too delicate and covered in greebles to be a mountaineering or climbing haul pack, it's too heavy covered in useless webbing to be a dedicated hiking pack, it's too big for carry on luggage, it's too military spergazoic for civilian use and will get bad attention in a lot of countries.>but I save money because it's built to be run over by a tank and thrown out of a helicopter so I'll definitely still be using it when I'm elderlySave money by buying a simple used cordura pack from ebay, faceberg marketplace or a second hand store if that's actually your motivation, but it's usually not with you /fa/ types.
>>2845248>it's too military spergazoic for civilian use and will get bad attention in a lot of countries.You've lost your credibility here.
>>2844831based
>>2845262It will though. Try being a fighting age male getting through a border control anywhere near Ukraine without being questioned and your bag searched. And the molle is pure larp for most people, if you need a bag with extra pockets and pouches.... they make those.
I'll never understand using 1000D cordura everywhere. Are you scraping the lid of your pack along granite as frequently as putting it down on its base? No, because I was guessing I'd say most of you are an upright biped who doesn't live in a series of narrow tunnels1000D is like fabric sandpaper, it chews up anything it grinds against, for instance the nice outdoors clothing on your back.
>>2845329every day I see 50+ fake amazon tier military packs with molle on them on my walk to town. I am cursed with living in a major city right now, but its a solid 5-20% of rucksacks I see on a given day. Those ridiculous "Built for Athletes" bags that hyrox or crossfit faggots love are also very fashionable atm.
>>2845333I've got the "fake" version of OP's backpack, looks just like it, from Amazon. This thing is rugged enough for me even if I overpack it which I do. My only problem is that I can't fit/fix everything I need on/in it so I end up carrying my sleeping bag round my arm - the exact problem I tried so hard to avoid when buying! NONE of these backpack bastard companies put a functional area to PROPERLY tie things on, they just pretend.
>>2845339have you tried getting a backpack designed for an overnight 50-65 liters and not a school bag 20-30 litres
>>2844793PERKELLE
>>2845329Why the fuck would anyone even approach the border of Ukraine, apart from fleeing from that collapsing shithole?
>>2844793'member when the mods banned 'vottaposting? Never figured out why they did that. Tbdesu I've never even seen a savotta backpack, everything here is Osprey.
>>2844793Looks like a good pack, tho Im not sure if its that different in purpose and function from the jääkäri L. Like others have mentioned 1000D nylon means itll last a lifetime, but it also means you're dealing with a pack thats at least twice as heavy as it needs to be.
The FDF sleeping pad is a 5/5 producthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ceEZmedWQMKantamus 60L looks good in this adhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXoaqirrmjgt. used Savotta stuff in FDF
>>2845383>overnight pack>50-60LWhat are you bringing for an overnight trip, your whole bedroom suite?
>>2845720Was planning on bringing your mother, but unfortunately Savotta doesn't make the Kantamus 200L
>>2845765kekk>>2845720I guess he means overnight AND cold weather.
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>>2844923varusteleka only sells overpriced junk nowadaysthey were cool like 10 years ago with the military surplus, but nowadays they deserve to be boycotted
>>2845939Stuffs still good if expensive. They are going the fjallraven way though.
>>2845330>1000D is like fabric sandpaper, it chews up anything it grinds against, for instance the nice outdoors clothing on your back.this post is goated. I always wear my best enchanted shit for a hike and getting it torn up isn't fun.
>>2844793get a Snugpack bergen 100L for 1/4th of the price
>>2845720>>2845767I mean personally i'm not going overnight anywhere without a tent I live in damn near ground zero for lyme disease and need to beable to sleep away from ticks atleast.
not op, looking for a new backpack for several day trips that will last me the next 10 years+. recommend me something.the savotta kantamus 40L does look nice and has several features that would suit my needs very well. main downside seems to be that it is quite expensive, can be justified though if i will be happy with it for a long time. what would alternatives be?
>>2844793It's a completely basic military style daypack.Does what it says, nothing more nothing less.Weighs a fuckload, but you can strap as much shit as you want to it.I think savotta is overpriced and heavy, but seems fine otherwise.
>>2847741>It's a completely basic military style daypackno one else really makes anything like that though, i know because i looked for chinese knockoffs of kantamus or jaakari but literally can't find any. i don't get it, the concept seems super simple: just make a basic ass tube bag and sew a a shit ton of molle (and maybe some buckles) on it
>>2847742It's almost identical to the daypack we had when I served, but I think ours was 35 liters.
>>2847741it weighs about as much as the mystery ranch backpacks i am looking at e.g. the bridger 45not really interested in ultra light backpacking, just looking for something with some organisational capacities that will last me forever and is comfortable over longer hikes. i also very much dislike the bright colors of most backpacks.
>>2845720You don’t go /out/ and it shows
>>2847752This backpack isn't "not ultralight" its literally "ultra heavy" its not for carrying its for being shipped between deployment locations in military service. There is no other reasonable purpose for 1000D cordura
>>2847767what would you suggest then?
>>2847772anything using a lighter nylon with a reinforced bottom plate maybe. Essentially my point is you could get something made of 350d which you would never rip and it would half the weight.
>>2847774the osprey atmos ag 50L and the mystery ranch bridger 45L e.g. use a lighter nylon and still weigh about as much as the kantamus.
>>2847775I actually started to do some research for you but the fact you lied immediately is not encouraging me to assist you. The Kantamus 2.85kg is a third heavier then the mystery ranch 2.0kg and the osprey 1.9kg. The bridger 45 and osprey aswell are obviously designed to be used and worn for longer periods of time aswell with the inclusion of full back padding and proper modern hip supports.
>>2847776wuti did not lie, why would i? pic related, the kantamus weighs 2,4kg, the atmos 1,95kg and the bridger 2kg. that is not a lot of difference and so far i did all of the research myself. you have been mostly talking about how 1000d is too heavy, not to mention that the kantamus is also made out of 500d cordura. if you dont want to help, no problem.
>>2847785I compared the weight of the kantamus 60l as its the one in the OP of this thread. also the majority of the bag is 1000D you are an idiot. The main body of the pack is made from 1000D Cordura for high abrasion resistance, with details such as the back pad compartment and roll top being made from lighter and less coarse 500D.
>>2847787oh you got me confused, i am not op, i am interested in the 40L version if anything. i do know that the bag is mostly 1000d but that is besides the point anyway, the backpack weighs about as much as the comparable bridger 45L and atmos 50L. wouldnt make sense to compare a 60L backpack to those
>>2847788it also still weighs almost a whole pound more which is not insignificant when the products you are comparing weigh 4-6lb in total
>>2844793>is it worth it>tell me what to think Underaged poster, it’s a backpack meant to carry stuff. Use your head and decide whether the amount of stuff you fantasize online about carrying with you is a large enough volume to necessitate a bag of an appropriately similar size. You sound like an autistic child asking strangers if you are hungry or not and “what is the best food to eat” I’m guessing you are curious about the bag for looks and/or name to somehow brag about. Or more likely with this board and the internet in general, you have zero intention of buying it and instead you’re just fishing for vicarious anecdotes that you will parrot forever to continue to role play online that it’s your own experience and thoughts. Get it if you want it, don’t get it if you don’t. Nobody here cares. Grow up and think for yourself.
>>2847796so what alternatives do you suggest?
>>2845329There's no border controls near Ukraine, it's all EU
I have the Chinesium version in the 50L version. The design of the backpack is excellent, very common sense and well formatted. I had to get a smaller sleeping bag so that i could carry it with the paracord webbing at the top but aside from that it carries everything well. The top pocket (under the cord) holds a lot of things, I keep my folding saw in there, knife, a headlamp, a hanging lamp, all sorts of stuff. There are the everyday pockets that are necessary - no infuriating oversights - and then more little pockets here and there which become useful over time. What I like is that there always seems to be enough room at the top of the main compartment for the 1 last thing I need, which is a multi-compartment bag of useful things.It's quite adjustable for making it a comfortable carry but I lack experience in exactly how ergonomic a backpack can be. It's easy to get a system going with this format and I'm glad I cheaped out and bought the aliexpress version because it was only $60 in your money.>picrel: a fabric chair that allows you to almost completely lean back. I lean it up against said backpack and have full back support. Crafty chinese I tell ya, and all so astonishingly cheap.
>>2847807I think they may have been sued since I bought mine because now the same one is altered as to not be an exact copy. New version - mine has the semi-gay webbing around the outside like OP's pic.https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mountain-Warehouse-High-35L-Rucksack/dp/B01GEENHJQ?th=1&psc=1
>>2847858so you don't have the same product at all? what is your point in being in this thread, do you even know what material your bag is constructed from?
>>2847807If I was gonna spend the type of money your looking at i'd be trying to spend it in expensive high performance materials not expensive high durability materials look into the Hyperlite backpacks that meld Dyneema and Poly for a perfect mix of full water and light resistance and the ability to drag your bag up a cliff face if your trad climbing. A modern product like that will serve you a lot better for the price if you intend to actually carry it places. Savottas 1000d products are primarily designed to move stuff in vehicles from point to point
>>2847891Why do I need to know that? I know that it is very lightweight unpacked and that it holds together like a champ even with *all* my gear in it and has done for 5+ years. Aside from a few loose-ish stitches around the stress points it's still pretty new.You'd do well to find one on ebay (Mountain Warehouse Up 50) instead of fetishizing your favourite material compounds, it would probably be 10x cheaper than your overpriced fagpack and still last for ages like mine. Only thing I had to replace was some paracord which I ripped.
>>2847907Because this thread is someone asking for advice not completely random anecdotes if you also did any material research you'd then beable to purchase something for your use case not just shooting in the dark
>>2847855>There's no border controls near Ukraine, it's all EUUkraine sure as fuck isn't E.U., so there's border control in and out of Ukraine, hopefully. Lest we end up being flooded by hohols and the africans they accepted in their country. (in my country the public at large recently learned about the "Ukrainian student refugees" who've been living and studying on our dime who were actually a bunch of Nigerians)Neither are Belarus or Moldavia in the E.U.Although that doesn't stop the other anon from being a complete retard who thinks anyone cares about "military looking" items. If you're not in a full uniform, you're fine.
>>2844793>endgameYour brain is full of mush.
>>2845248i believe you are critically retarded
I guess this is the backpack thread. I just got an older Gregory pack for free on marketplace, in good condition with the exception of the hip belt. The plastic inserts are both busted (see pic). Anyone tried replacing these, or similar?
