did you know that the colorado river doesn't reach the ocean anymore, and hasn't consistently since the 60sit all gets sucked up for irrigation and municipal water on arizona and mexicothere's just a dry delta in baja california where it once wasa similar fate has actually befallen a bunch of rivers in the southwest
>>2850988Yes im aware.It has destroyed the gulf of California ecosystem that has relied on the Colorado dumping massive amounts if fresh water.
guess we should depopulate the west and admit the eastern us is more ecologically sustainable
>>2850988Fucking depressing man. We need to deport all the mexicans and just shut down any city in the desert that is not capable of existing without water from a mountain range hundreds of miles away.
>>2850988Yes, I believe this was in my geography textbook 20+ years ago
>>2850992Yes, but we should just kill those people off instead of relocating them.
>>2850992>paves roads to mountain peakseast coast is both genetically weak and deeply unsustainable.
>>2851030The west also has several roads to mountain peaks. Are you retarded? Colorado has a 14er with a road to the top and an annual race. There's other 12ers+ as well with roads.
>>2851026>>2851030So many problems would be solved if only americans started killing each other instead.
>>2850996Water shouldn't be transported hundreds of miles in the first place. I don't understand why we do this. So that Californians can fuck up the soil by growing... almonds? They're ruining the environment and permanently destroying any chance of /out/.
>>2850992We should depopulate the entire country. Target population 50 million, 95% White.
>>2851052I think the US is on track to see a population declination this year, due to birth rates.
Are the people that worry about resource scarcity the same people that promote unlimited immigration ?
>>2851477Yes, mostly. There are far right conservationists but it's not a very large movement yet.
>>2851051>I don't understand why we do this.Because some places get extremely low rain water and have no natural lakes or rivers near them? Are you fucking 12 or something?
>>2850988>it all gets sucked up for irrigation and municipal water on arizona and mexicoyou should look into its head waters. tons of water is shipped through the continental divide to the arkansas river where it then goes to the cities of colorado springs and pueblo
>>2850988The largest single user of the Colorado river's water resources is by far California (50%+). There are 20 million people living in southern California that literally do not have a single year-round 250-1,000+ cfs (cubic feet per second water flow) river other than the Colorado river, this is a nightmarishly fucked metric. There are also 3 million Nevadans with the exact same fate (the entire state of Nevada). For comparison, Arizona has 3 such rivers plus the Colorado (4 total), along with 400 perennial streams, and over 2,000 perennial springs, and several extremely massive aquifers but even with this AZ is at parity or slightly overpopulated now as well (7.7 million people, not counting 5 million+ snowbirds in winter in Maricopa, Pinal and Pima counties alone). In general, in the USA 70-80% of all human water use is dedicated solely to agriculture, even in states that average 50 inches of annual precipitation. The southwestern USA has also been in a longterm drought since the 1990s at least, studies indicate that the longest ever drought in CA and AZ lasted 140-180 years in a row in geophysical record analysis (tree rings, sediment studies). The SW USA was also largely depopulated by native Americans during the little ice age due to severe cold and drought (cold weather usually leads to lower precipitation overall, but also less evaporation which means water lasts longer above ground). The current drought is largely attributed to conditions in the eastern Pacific ocean and Jetstream patterns, it can end or start up again at any time but usually wetter periods also last decades to centuries just like drought period do.
>>2853327Cont.The single biggest reason reservoirs are getting fucked is not solely due to the drought, but actually primarily driven by increased metropolitan and agricultural water usage and made worse by the drought, and agricultural usage is actually decreasing now (meaning the populations are beyond the carrying capacity in both water and food in E Colorado state (CO total water budget is supermajority falling and draining on the west slope), W Texas, low elevation Arizona (about 40% of AZ geographically), all of Nevada, and all of S California. The same is said for literally every state in northern Mexico, 3 of 6 are also beyond the population carrying capacity in both food and water. Another issue is the Colorado river compact was made in an era when there was not as severe of a drought as there is now, so the total allocations to each state and party actually often exceeds the rivers' actual total annual flow and evaporation loss, this further strains the river and Mexico sucks up it's 1.5 MAF and pumps it to fields before it actually reaches Mexico in the actual natural river channel.
>>2850988white devils
>>2851578Hes saying people should just not live where there isn't water. Its kinda of mute argument cause no large scale human settlement on earth exists without massive hydropower setups providing big water reservoirs
>>2853357Maybe stop growing almonds and alfalfa in an arid environment.
>>2851051>Californians ... almondsJews, the family that has the ridiculous water rights for growing almonds is Jewish, and they primarily export their almonds to Israel
Freshwater should never reach the sea. Its too valuable and to hard to desalinate
