Would you? Have you lived in one, built one, or simply stayed overnight? Explain yourself.
Also, what happened to appalacian diy cabin anon? Why did he get 404?
>>2860076he spams his cuckshed in unrelated threads then thinks yelling at the jannies will change their minds.
>>2860077his thread dedicated to it was also deletedi hope he posts again, i had all his threads open for weeks
>>2860079Don't bother. He took no precautions in the foundation. It has no floor, and it will crumble in a year to a couple years time, weather depending.
>>2860075>simply stayed overnightmany times.
OP here. Like a moron, I created a thread and forgot to contribute. I hike a lot and tend to favour woodlands and forrests over any other biome. As for cabins, I've never built one but have stayed in many overnight, in several different countries, my favourite being a cabin in Austria where I stayed overnight whilst I was on a hiking trip. It was a basic cabin with a bunj bed and a small fireplace. It was close to a fresh water spring which was useful. It was freezing outside, around 14 degrees F but inside it was cozy as fuck. I hope to build my own cabin one day. I have a patch if land in Ohio but I haven't developed it yet.
>>2860106And there were 2 major snowstorms that hit him in the last 2 1/2 weeks.Hes either dead in his car on the side of a mountain or at his parents house.
>>2860075Back when my family owned 50 acres we'd stay in a small cabin with 2 sets of bunk bedsno running water, electricity was from a generator and the restroom was an outhouse.It was fun until the last day because we would all just sit around and i wanted pancakes. So i'd get pissed off we were just sitting around when i could be eatings bacon, eggs and pancakeswe ended up selling the 50 acres because the land was between two counties so property tax sky rocketed.It was literally in the middle of nowhere and i was next in line for inheritence. Owned 3 hills/mountains at one point
>>2860289i also fell down this hill once
>>2860076>>2860079>>2860106>>2860262im totally here and well. the /out/ janny is hates me because he ain't me. i installed a window and made a door out of rough sawn cedar from the cedar mill which was $10 for a big ass bundle. great cabin building resources imo
>>2860370backside
Here's my 12x20 in Maine. It's literally just 4 walls and a roof rn, with a loft where I sleep.Anyone know the do's and dont's for installing a woodstove?
>>2860373>woodstovejust use single wall pipe if you dont have an attic. several options to go through the roof. just use tin if you are worried about protecting the walls. picrel is mine. i did the rock and the tin. (i actually built my whole house alone)
I want to, but I am a suburbanite with literally no hands on skills. I can barely tie my own shoe laces or set up a tent so how I'm expected to build a cabin or a mobile cabin is beyond me.
>>2860371Pretty good, thanks for the update. Nice kot btw
>>2860376im gonna weld some bad ass burglar bars out of rebar acraps next
>>2860375mobile homes are considered trashy because of trailer parks, but functionally it work like a cabin, you just need a plot of land and sanitationthey might not be planned for wood stove/heating tho, but beside that most of the job it already donealso you can't learn without trying
>>2860380Yeah but I don't like that. I'm too picky with customisability. I like the idea of a single roomed space with bedding, desks, cooking equipment, storage and a possible shower in a corner.
>>2860381>I'm too pickyyou just said you can barely tie your shoe laces, you can't afford to be picky, also there's probably a model somewhere like that or a company willing to make one on demandbut anyway, unless you plan to live the solo hermit life why would you have a shower not separated from your living place by at least a thin wall that prevent showing your willy to everyone?
>>2860370oo it's this guy>>2860373lol you maniac with those windows and awning
>>2860371That cabin has come a long way. Why don't you ever mention your cat?
>>2860370>>2860371post what it looks like from the inside i know its small and cramped but im curious
>>2860370>that roofYou're killing met. ex carpenter/framer
>>2860438Same as the outside.Literally.
>>2860438
>>2860564Based. I can imagine a small stove there, making a good tea, read a book and then crawl into a sleeping bag. I love comfy cabins like that
Jannie can you just get it over with and shred this guys worthless bait pictures of his pile of sticks.
>>2860575honestly for a dumb newbie this isn't too badjust need a bit of insulation, plywood sheets and screw to hold it on the walls and fill gapssomething to prevent the roof from being pulled away by winddunno what he could do to secure the shitty foundation tho, maybe secure it with lime?
>>2860575When's the last time you got off your ass and did something cool
>>2860579>honestly for a dumb newbieanon, if you are under the age of 26, i was literally framing houses since before you were born. get over the foundation, you have zero clue what you are talking about.
>>2860584forgot pic, door is hung
>>2860584>appeal to authority fallacychoke on a dick you pretentious faggot, i was just saying anon could have done a lot worse for his first shit shack
>>2860584>i was framing houses>house framingwhich is not considered proper construction on most places outside the US for anything that isn't some single room cheap cabin meant to be used only in summeri mean come onanon's making a makeshift shack here, no need to act hight and mighty
probably larping like most of /out/, probably not that old, probably never framed houses too
>>2860564thanks anon, comfy and looks bigger than it does on the outside
>>2860564Good luck chinking that top gap.
>>2860075>Stayed overnight?I have! multiple times. It's very common here where i live (scandinavia). No internet, maybe a good book or some cards if you are with someone else. Would recomendI would 100% live in one. Hopefully i'll be able to buy some land and build one
>>2860075I have tent-camped and wild-camped for most of my life. I only used cabins a few times, mostly on group hikes. Once, I found an abandoned cabin in Siberia, and stayed there for the night. It was falling apart but it provided shelter for the night. I've also stayed in a few Bothies overnight when I hiked in Scotland and Wales. Many years ago I met my wife and we started using cabins on our trips, mostly inna woods. It was a big step up and I really enjoy how easy it is. I still enjoy using tents but I have gotten use to being comfy inna cabin.
>>2860585He finally finished the whack shack. How long before teen girls start going missing in his area?
>>2860585>>2860564Tar paper or house wrap the outer walls then cover them with the saw mill scraps just like you made the door. You could do the same with the interior, you would have two air barriers for insulation and it would vastly increase the strength. I've done entire cabins like that.
>>2860764That is the most ghetto ass “solar system” I have ever seen. Please post your battery bank and meter so I can laugh.
>>2860766Those little panels are all for independent lights, the big one swivels and the ones on the side are for a specific purpose. In the winter those 2 100 watt panels put out more than the two on the swivel mount even when it is aligned perfectly since light reflects off the snow.May i see your solar system and off grid cabin? Oh wait, you have neither.
>>2860764>>2860775>>286076630 watt controller and 4 boat batteries, all it powers is a laptop and satellite dish. During the day it sometimes runs a van heater.
>>2860755Thanks anon. Once I got the walls to a sufficient height I started jacking off in it. Just tall enough so that people couldn’t see me before I heard them coming. It’s much comfier now that it has a roof and door. All those years of my mom complaining about me gooning at home, well look at me now mom!
>>2860847Nice try faggot. You are not Appalacian Cabin anon. And you're not funny.
>>2860861Sounds like somebody’s jealous he doesnt have a goon cabin. How do you know he doesn’t wank it in there? I know I would
I am extremely tempted to buy a nice block of land and build a tiny home. I am qualified and could easily do it but I just need to commit. I am also single so it would be difficult to meet a girl outside of a community
>>2860870>but I just need to commit.do it. i took the plunge in 2019 and it was a great decision. everyone thought i was stupid and was going to waste my money and fail. if you do it with savings and dont have a mortgage you can get by on almost nothing and never having to worry about being evicted gives you peace of mind. i now have time to do all my hobbies i never had time for. it also was a great decision financially, my land increased 5x in value. yolo>I am also single so it would be difficult to meet a girl outside of a communitymost women arent even worth beind nice to let alone marry. they will just bitch and moan everyday until they bankrupt and divorce you.
>>2860873>my land increased 5xThis.I initially bought 20 acres and recently the 20 adjoining acres became available.I paid 4x what it sold for 10 years ago- didnt really have a choice on that, if I didnt buy it someone else would have and no fucking way am I having a neighbor that close when all the other lots in the "neighborhood" are like 200-500 acres.But it also increased the resale value of my original parcel by making it twice the size so on paper im still ahead.
>>2860887How will you use you land anon? I have 50 acres but I have yet to do anything with it. Might use it to crow food crops, maybe build a cabin, or both. Not sure yet. It's pretty good land.
>>2860889nta but if you have land you should plant an orchard asap, walnut or similar in priority, then the fruit that is know to grow well in the regiona vegetable gardenif you want to do real farm work wheat is a no brainer
>>2860889I have a 15 acre motorcycle track because ive been riding dirt for 30 years and now I can just do cool shit like that.>>2860890Really weird that you mentioned walnuts.The 40 acres is my hunting cabin.My house is on 20 acres and I have a black walnut tree (also have an orchard and blah blah blah).But I have one walnut and its an absolute pita to harvest the nuts so we ignore it but every year theres dozens of saplings that pop up and this year I decided that instead of mowing them down id dig them up and transplant them out to the hunting cabin. I put them in pots a couple months ago and took them out and am waiting for the most dormant time of year to put them in the ground (I guess thats like "now").Also dug up the volunteer maples because I like maples.And about a dozen saw tooth oaks because those damn to things are like 50 bucks a piece.
>>2860917Oh ya. For the recordI make bank off pecans in a good year.Pears and apples we can for the family.
>>2860652Thats a window
>>2860652That is trivial. Tar paper the outside then use mill scraps for siding, it is now draft tight. Chink it with loose insulation then throw another layer of tar paper over it and tack Lauan over that with ring nails. Or just wall the interior like he made the door. Use some mill scraps for strapping if you want and the nicer pieces for trim. The same method he used for the door can make a floor.
>>2860075My gf will inherit her parents house on the beach.
>>2860370>>2860371based
>>28600751996>wow, that guy really wanted to get away from everyone, living in a shack that probably cost 100 dollars to build2026>for sale on Zwillow: wonderful off grid homestead with woodstove on .5 acres $500,000
>>2860966>for sale on Zwillow: wonderful off grid homestead with woodstove on .5 acres $500,000buy something like this and build a homestead like a man
>>2860969imagine your address being 0 private road off highway
>>2860947What's your point?>My gf.So, not your wife.>House on the beach.Is it a wood cabin? Because this is a thread about wood cabins, not beach houses.
>>2860947How does she plan to kill her parents? Let me guess, she wants you to do it for her. Then you take the fall, she gets the house, and rides the cock carousel at the beach
>>2861003My property didn't have an address when I bought it. Technically my second lot still does not have an address.
>>2861028How do you get mail?
>>2861039I have an address now.Had to call some county tech that came out and checked where my cabin was with GPS in relation to the road and I got a street number (its not done by driveway location- makes sense when you think about how buildings can be arranged on a large piece of property).Mailbox is about a mile down the road- was the closest place a mail carrier could access the shoulder due to how the road has cliffs/ditches along the edge.
>>2861051That’s fair. Sounds like a preddy good setup. If I ever get an inna woods place my two requirements are 1. A spring/ source of fresh water, and 2. A lake/ place to raise fish. I grew up in Mississippi and I know that if you have a decent sized lake you can eat forever raising catfish
>>2861057I have a non-navigable creek and found out that if I wanted to build a pond fed from it that it was an act of congress level of paperwork because of those affected downstream.Makes sense- I wouldnt want someone upstream to damn the creek and cause my portion of the creek to dry up.Something to keep in mind- best to get a parcel with an existing pond or do your due diligence on local regulations before you buy if its an important aspect of the property to you.Luckily in my area you can drill anywhere and hit water. My well driller was impressed with what he hit and says it can pull about 100 gpm. 220 feet drill with water at 120 and pump sitting at 170.I had a friend in Nevada who had some property and got a quote from a well driller. They said in that area they MIGHT hit water at 2,500 feet but the odds were not in their favor and even if its a dry hole that will be $50,000. Mine was $9,000 and that included drill, casing, pump, expansion tank, trenching the water line to the cabin and even clearing about 1/10th of an acre of saplings and overgrowth.
>>2860371ngl that looks comfy af based cabin anon. pls don't disappear and keep us updated as you finish it.
>>2860371Are you an ex mathematics professor by any chance
Cabin anon is highly suspect.Pretty sure hes building the crapshack in his parents backyard.>fat cat just hanging out.>portable 120v table saw.>pics are always from the same 2 angles.Hes got 200 feet of extension cord running from his parents house and does his best not to show it in the background.Even the family cat comes over to see whats going on because its just the edge of the yard where he hunts birds all day.
where to build a hut and live in it in europe. Where are the best laws and cheap land?>t. germcuck
>>2861216this croatian over on /pol/ says italy is overall the best. he said that alot of the buthurt belt is too unstable and muh russia. italy has cheaper land with little rules in the countryside but still somewhat stable govt
>>2860431>>2860376Thats one obese fuck though
>>2860585Any updates on the cabin?
>>2860969>Zestimate(R)
>>2861310>thinks your property values look zesty
>>2861204I don't think he ever claimed he was building in the middle of nowhere did he? Pretty sure it's near an existing homestead.
>>2861465Ya he claimed he bought a piece of land in the middle of nowhere.
>>2861289his mom told him he needs to tear it down and put the kindling away.
>>2861493What a toxic cunt
I LOVE my AR15, frens :)
>>2861542I lost all my guns in a boating accident on the Mississippi between state lines.
>>2861549Common occurrence. Happens to the best of us
>>2861493I think he got arrested by the Feds
>>2861681recruited by the feds
>>2861685Welcomed by the locals
>>2861687Unbelievably based. These carpet bagger wannabes need to fucking GO
>>2861691>>2861687Mfw
>>2860947
>>2861702Hillbilly chads stay un-raped and winning
>>2860075Which country besides the US and Canada would be suited for living away from civilization?I want 5 to 10 acres, at least 2 hrs away from the nearest human settlement.I'm not planning a full homestead but like hens, ducks, rabbits, goats, and a donkey or mule (I like donkeys).Depending on the climate I'd grow potatoes (because store bought varieties are trash), legumes and greens.Flour and rice and other shit would be bought in bulk.It's just very hard to find a country which allows such kind of living. Most countries don't even allow you to build on your own land, unless it's already in a residential zone.I'm European, so my first thought was some abandoned mountain village in Portugal or Italy.
>>2861752>Most countries don't even allow you to build on your own land, unless it's already in a residential zone.yeah, now on paper it's possible to change the status of land, at least in france, need to go to the local mayor, ask of utilities (water/electricity) to be installed and have an address which can be refused, and then ask for a permit and a declaration to build anything which also can be refused, but since it's handled locally you can just bribe the guy, pretty sure everyone does that anyway
>>2860075Not a cabin, but I was hiking with a group of friends and we got caught in a snow storm which was not expected that time of year. We were not dressed or equiped for that weather and was miles away from anywhere. Came across a stone building in a valley and the 6 of us crammed in and waited out the storm overnight. That night sealed the deal with a girl I was trying to get into and we got married 2 years later. We went back to that same building a few years ago. Picrel.
>>2860075hmmm yes, think of building a small cabin. nothing too big just bigger than a tent what would b some good tools to build this with?
>>2861802i dont want bugs to get in so have the logs b close together and nothing where a snake could get in either.
>>2861802>>2861803
>>2861802>tools$20 drawbar from amazonchainsawhatchet drillthats what i used to build my bug out cabin.
>>2861832i dont want to get chainsaw because they make to much noise and want to keep it on dl. want something that i can split logs in half to have a flat edge to work with.>>2861817this is SERIOUS!!
>>2861817Phhh in this economy?! I’m not taking out a loan.
>>2861875>to much noiseI carry pic related in my SxS to cut shit out of my way when im out in my forest.They work surprisingly well.
>>2861891neat-o thanks
>>2861752Highlands of Scotland
>>2862024You have to actually be European tho bc people up there can be very, very racist and they don’t like outsiders
>>2862025This is true. I’m American (blonde/ blue eyed) and even I got stares when walking into places. Managed to earn the respect of the locals in this locals pub by downing like 4 pints in a row. They were really friendly after that
>>2861025Yeah, it is a wood cabin.
Any updates on the cabin?
>>2862265He got V& for extremism (being extremely stupid).
>>2862266That’s a shame. I wanted to see the fulfillment of his retardation
>>2862266>>2862267im waiting on it to get a little warmer so the chicking dries better. today im building a new rabbit pen
>>2862278these arn't rabbits but i get it can be confusing for a first timer
>>2862278Them be birbs anon, not rabbats
>>2862278I cant believe nobody pointed this out before but those are chickens in that photoDamn Im so smart and clever You all jealous that I knew what a chicken looked like?
Cabin owned by family. Off grid. No cell service. No water. No electric.
>>2862311
>>2862311Also has ten acres of riverfront
>>2861752Portugal and Italy are packed. Plus I remember the covid outbreak in N Italy was because of jeet DoorDashers speaking it around. If they have either jeets or DoorDash in the country areas then there’s nowhere in that country that’s “away from civilization”.Spain, Ireland and Scotland are basically empty by Euro standards.>>2862311If you got like 2-3k you could get an all-in-one battery/solar generator, 600w of solar, a 12v car fridge/cooler, Starlink,, some led lights and an air fryer, then you can go there and shit post while eating some tendies in between your morning hikes and afternoon fishing
>>2862315I think you're missing the point. I like it how it is. Need to redo the outhouse after a tree fell and crushed it though.
>>2862316> I think you're missing the point. I like it how it is. Absolutely based. It looks like absolute gorgeous land. Somewhere out in NW/ NC USA I would guess
WOULD I?? The entire system here is made to stop me from doing that. It's my simple dream, to own a modest plot of land and live on it, the primary reason I'd get off my arse and work hard, but it's denied! Here you have to be a fucking company director to be able to afford such a natural existence, they keep us head down all day for damp little brick houses that will still be there long after we've died of heartbreak.I'm not feeling good about any of it, I'm in my mid-30s and feel like I can't even start off in life because such a normal, natural life is denied systematically.
>>2862325>I'm in my mid-30s and feel like I can't even start off in life because such a normal, natural life is denied systematically.my life started in my mid 30's anon. there are alot of ways to still make money but you will have to make some sacrifices. i went to the north dakotan oil field when i was 32 and worked all i could. at 39 i took all my savings and built a homestead. living in north dakota can be miserable, nothing to do and extremely cold in winter but you can get unlimited overtime and stack cash. some jobs even provide housing and that really allows you to save. the system is definitely stacked against you but its not impossible. honestly if you dont have the ability to do what it takes to sacrifice, persevere and save $100k then you dont have what it takes to just live on a modest piece of land.
>>2862311That look cozy as fuck and a relaxing place to get away from everything
>>2862356It's great, I don't go often enough.
>>2862313can you do some good fishing here? if so then i'm jelly
>>2862381Yes, the river has fish but there's a large habitat restoration effort going on currently so I'm not sure about legally harvesting fish.
Any cabin updates?
>>2862448I got arrested. I was in my cabin, laying in the ground jacking it when they showed up at my front door. Just bailed out but when I got back they had burnt my cabin down! My mom is going to be so pissed when I have to start jacking it at home again and messing up all her towels
>>2862639Whoa
>>2862639Senpai is this real?
>>2862639Fake news. My cabin did not burn down and I’m going back there to jack it this afternoon
Cabinanon confirmed for a LARPing faggot.He posted pics of fruit trees he claimed he planted 5 years ago with the cabin in the back ground. Along with chickens and rabbits.That along with the fat cat that has been in-frame for some of his pics and a portable 110v table saw all together proves hes in his parents back yard just fucking off.Instead of being honest from the beginning he turned it into some offgrid zoomer fantasy.
>>2862996Yet, he is creating something, and you aren't. Fuck off.
>>2862996i admitted my larp a month ago anon. its my house though not my parents. >>2860567>>2862448it rained 2 inches in 3hrs this morning and water was running down the hill and the cabin was totally fine. no water got inside so i might skip chinking it.
>>2862996Who gives a shit you faggot. Cabinanon is actually doing something and has created something. I don't care where or how he does it, as long as it is /out. Don't stop Cabinanon! Keep posting updates. Fuck these demoralising, useless faggots.
>>2863022His cabin looks kinda malnourished like you would make in a truly off grid situation with hand tools but now it just looks incompetent
>>2860371Cute cat
>>2862997I actually did the cabin innawoods though.I almost froze to death the first winter when it was 17°F and I had no insulation, electricity or furnace.I spent 2 years shitting in a bucket before I saved enough for a septic.Another 3 years filling up jugs of water from a friend's garden hose on the way home from work before I saved enough for a well.So you can blow me.
>>2860373GYATT ZAYUMN
>>2862998It was a fun little experiment to get this far but I dont think you've played out the math on your chinking formula.You'd have to run a firepit every night to get enough ash to run just 1/4 way down one log seem. And most of your gaps are too large to pack anyways. You'd be better off with spray foam or some shit.
>>2863062i ran my woodstove all winter. i have 4 five gallon buckets of woodash saved. large gaps you fill with crumbled up chicken wire before you apply chinking.
>>2863057Why would anyone voluntarily do this to themself? If you have a job you’re not broke so why live like a homeless person?
>>2863110What were you doing 5 years ago?How much did you spend on rent last year?How much will you spend on rent in the next 5 years?When you move, will any of your rent be refunded? Will you receive any money from the next person that moves in?
>>2863114I’ve never rented anything. My parents died when I was a teenager in a car accident and I got 100k in live insurance. I bought real estate and was a multi millionaire by the time I turned 25
>>2863123My brother bought boats guns and cars and ended up broke
>>2863123Ya life is good when your dad works at Nintendo
>>2860564>never heard of foundation>don't understand human anatomy or common dimensions for furniture>literally building a "log" meme that don't even qualify as tool shed>didn't even bother to measure each "log" or make sure it will fit>logs are almost considered twigs anyway, diameter too small and prone to warping>gives up and buys generic beams and tiles to finish the roofI bet you are here to farm (You) no one is this fucking retarded on purpose
>>2863412It gets better.>admitted its a larp because hes a NEET that had nothing else to do over the winter but feed his parents cat.>bounced his dull assed hatchet off a log and gouged the fuck out of his arm- no stitches and now he has a fucked up crater of a scar and nerve damage.>never finished cabin because it started to warp and pop apart because he ran rail road spikes through broom handles.>already collapsing under its own weight and he only posts pics from 100 feet away.Hopefully he'll atleast post pics of the bonfire when his parents tell him to get rid of it.
I'd rather not post anything on this site, bye
>>2863420look at this crybaby, like what did you expect? I bet you are a zoomer because even the nastiest millennial won't bother with the shit you made.
bubble's shed looks more liveable, you should have known at some point that you fucked up. I honestly have no idea how you think this is still salvageable.
>>2863515Idk nothing wrong with a multiple generations living on the same large farmhouse you're probably a suburbanoid living in your small single generation disposable house
>>2863592And I know people who live on a big family compound. Every family has their own house. It’s not just one big house
>>2863443>>2863515>>2863592>>2863600>>2863604the cabin is doing based, i built some shelves and have moved lots of stuff in it. it survived a big rain storm no problem. leveled out in front of it and made some water diversions. im not 60 and i dont live with my parents. picrel is a picture of my house which i also built.
>>2863635> I had to lie to post my larp on the incorrect board after the lie about my larp on another board didnt have enough (you)s.Go away.
>>2860370>>2860371>>2860564>>2860585You need to >chink the walls (moss is probably best)>add a sloped roof (snowfall will kill you otherwise)>seal the bottom
Godspeed to all the brave anons trying to something new. May your cabins be strong enough for winter or better yet dont risk it. Hundreds died in Texas during the freeze a couple years back.
>>2863825My cabin survived a direct hit from a Cat 3 hurricane.Had some trees leaning precariously towards it but managed to drop them without hitting the cabin. Should have dropped them years ago. Im being more selective on what I allow to grow next to it now.
>>2863862Nice. Yeah it’s not hard to make a resistant cabin if you know what you’re doing. My family have a cabin that’s been around since the 1920s and has been through dozens of hurricanes no problem including the worst one of the 20th century, Camille. That one anon’s “log” cabin wouldn’t last one big thunderstorm
>>2863879I did have a wasp and Asian ladybug infestation over the winter.They came in through a vent to survive the cold I guess. Every time I went out there there was 50 on the door trying to get out.Ladybugs werent an issue but having 100 paper wasps inside was a little annoying.Looks like im finally done with them though, none there today.
>>2863891Just wait until you get bees living in your walls and you don’t realize it yet, you just hear random scratching at night and have no idea what it is or where’s it’s coming from. That was a trip
>>2860564>>2860585how much did you spend on materials
>>2863999>$25 on nails>$40 on 2x4's>$110 on tin>$10 on hinges
>>2864001what is the floor size and what do you plan to do about it
i built and lived in one in alaska for several winterscost in total was around 50k for land and materials, it took about two months to build with most of that being sledding out materials.access is only by a moderately long and remote trail so i had to spend a decent chunk on four wheelers/snowmachines alsoit was fun and challenging to build (stick built, local trees are bad) but it became very demoralizing and lonely as less and less friends came to visit. my life just became a cycle of cook, work on trail, shovel roof, cut wood, shoot guns, watch movies, and sleep. also drink. a lot of drinking.it was worth it but now it is just more of a getaway/backup cabin.
>>2864388>also drink. a lot of drinking.Innawoods anon here.Can verify.
