>>2862542Just move there then
>>2862543That would be good idea if it wasn’t part of the US
>>2862543We're completely fucking full. Try California.
too many conifers for my liking
>>2862545Oops, you're just gonna have to stay in your street shitting country thirdie.
>>2862542pnw is way over rated and the people are shit
>>2862545This nigga ain't know canada exists
>>2862543Don't. Fuck off we're full.
>>2862542Is the trail to Tolmie Peak open agayn?
>>2862542natches loop?
>>2862542there is a path to residence, but you will have to collect 50 hobo pelts
>>2862630yeah full of brownoids and goys LMAO
>>2862542its pretty, nice to look at. you dont want to live there or hike there.
>>2862542Hey, be grateful anon. You could've been born in India.
>>2862920Or Indiana.
>>2862687Trail never closed. Just have to bike across the bridge and up to it.
>>2862919Why not?
>>2862979everything is steep, hilly and cumbersome to move around in. also too thick forest and most likely very dry, not many lakes, swamps or rivers around. im just used to plain and open tundra, you go through your pic related on the way up there but once there you get pic related. thats where i want to /out/.
Enjoy it all while it lastshttps://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/02/19/2026-03290/notice-of-intent-to-revise-resource-management-plans-for-northwestern-and-coastal-oregon-and
>>2863004Gee whiz a document that you didnt read or understandHow terrifying Maybe you should mention Trump a few dozen times, that always adds to the panic-stricken fearmongering
better get here quick. the judeo bolsheviks in WA are about to force through a income tax. OR is trying to ban hunting and fishing. this place will be a commie jewish hellscape, more than it already is, soon enough.
>>2863013how is income tax bad?>have house, boat, cars, snowmobile, everything i need>run my own business so i decide how much income i get>no income, no tax...the alternative is usually property tax and then you need to work your ass off just to pay for the property you just want to live on in peace and quiet.
>>2863016the alternative is increased sales tax saar
>>2862989>not many lakes, swamps or rivers Yeah man you've clearly been to one spot in the PNW. Southern Oregon has deserts, marshes, swamps, and shit loads of rivers and lakes to fish and kayak on. You could spend the summer bouncing from alpine lake to alpine lake.
>>2863013Yeah they are not passing that in Oregon lmao
>>2863035i sure hope not
>>2862967But then some diverse individual will disappear you'are bike whilst you'are hyking the traille.
>>2862543Fuck off, we're full.
>>2863135no you're not lmoa
Its great for outdoor reasons, but the politics are terrible. WA is a dysfunctional state controlled by deranged leftists who would sacrifice everything just to build another light rail station in seattle. That's why im in puget sound area near the military bases. it's more of a purple area due to the service members and their families, and most of the local people out here don't like seattle and the retards there. But if you can stomach that shit, its pretty cool. Having a stable job, decent income, and owning a house make it doable. A lot of people think "mountains cool" and just move here sight-unseen then seethe about apartments being $2500/month along the I5 corridor. They never even venture away from it.
>>2863570don't forget the jeets. so many jam boys scurrying around
>>2862545I'm glad you suffer and I hope your life is short and miserable.
Right, I'm a Mick that has ended up being shipped to Oregon for maybe 8 weeks.I was meant to be working on a project in Texas and so packed clothes, etc accordingly but then had to fly from Austin up to Portland.So I've got my good walking boots but fuck all else in the way of gear for cold weather.Any decent hillwalking I can do around Portland now without having to go and but gear (Proper winter and waterproof gear and crampons are back in Ireland).Preferably something that will take me a few hours and not one of those 1.6 mile "Challenging" trails that show up in every national park I've been to in America
>>2862989Yup definitely no lakes in Washington.
>>2864116I mean near Portland you should at least check out Multnomah Falls. Silver Falls State Park is also really nice. Too bad Crater Lake is shut down it's basically a world wonder and I recommend anyone who ever goes to Oregon checks it out, but I HIGHLY recommend you go to the coast instead. Fuck Portland. Go check out Gold Beach and Newport, you won't regret it at all.
>>2864123Sorry, should have mentioned I got a week and a half here last October and did Multnomah falls and drove out to Astoria / canon beach (Tried to go to Tillamook and had to turn back about half way. Loads of cops and ambulances and shit went flying past me and even a chopper and then police had the road blocked and said it would be at least 6 hours until it was open again).Why is crater lake closed?I had a colleague tell me I should go last time but I basically seen it was a four hour drive and said fuck it.
>>2864123>>2864141Wat is there to do at Cr888r Layke besides look at the big blue puddle?I wented there in 2020 and it was like OK, now I dun seen it.
>>2864123>>2864141Crater Lake is not shut down. You can drive to the south rim of the lake all year long. It is only the north entrance and the full road around the rim which is closed in winter. pic from this jan
>>2862542I was born in SalemI live in Colorado nowI like the idea of the pnw, but I don't actually want to live there. It's fun to visit for nostalgia.
>>2863013>OR is trying to ban hunting and fishingBasically a shitpost with zero chance of passing, but we've got other serious issues, like shrodinger's draconian gun laws hanging over us pending infinite court decisions, state budget in a shambles, prices going up on everything, and horrific homelessness and crime problems all over PDX and the Valley. >>2863034Same with Central OR too. This place would be paradise if it wasn't for Oregon politics and tourist trap pricing. It always makes me think of an open-world vidya map with how many different biomes and geologic areas we've got in such a small area, you can drive from red rock desert canyons to pristine mountain lakes in like an hour.
>>2864153Oh damn that looks incredible, I wouldn't have expected it to be that good with how shit of a winter we've had. I went in the fall, right before the hotel and visitor center etc. closed, and it was pretty cool then too though. >>2864148There's a whole bunch of other stuff within the National Park, all kinds of trails and stuff. I can't speak much for them since I've only been there as a day trip from Bend though. >>2864123Man, I really need to get out to the coast, I've never been. It's just far enough from where I am that it doesn't really make sense as a day trip, unlike the valley and PDX. I'm actually going out to the latter tomorrow, but mostly just to do some shopping for stuff I can't get in Central O. I really need to get a bike with more speed and range, I think riding out to the coast would be a really nice trip on a touring/ADV bike but my dualsport can't even make it over the Cascades to the valley.
>>2864148You can fish, you can rent a boat to go onto wizard island, the skiing there brings people from across the entire world every single year in such a high quantity the park can't keep up with it, there's a cave system similar to Mt.Shasta, there's also some of the best mushroom foraging and hunting in the entire state there. The camping out there is also some of the best in the entire US, there are sno-parks dotted around the mountain that forestry will chop large amounts of wood for and have maintained cabins with energy and toiletry and heating free for anyone who passed by. I think the most important thing about the mountain for myself is it really is a lot like Mt.Shasta in that it's a big volcano that attracts and generates a lot of energy, but unlike Shasta it doesn't have a shitty little tourist town nearby full of Californians and the extreme winter conditions strongly discourage anyone but the most endured spirits who are in balance with the land to remain. The people I regularly meet out there are more akin to forest gods than they are humans.
>>2864163Nobody wants to hear what it's fucking been since the start regarding homeless: Fucking California shipping them up into Oregon, Seattle shipping them down into Oregon, they all congest into the epicenter of Portland via greyhounds and then explode off into the rest of the state. I have not only seen it regularly first hand but I have unfortunately been in that exact flow multiple times while traveling broke and homeless. California at large I know is a very popular target but that's because they're very fucking retarded niggers and ruin everything. One of the big reasons we have such a nasty drought afflicting us is because California fucked up the Sacramento river and now we have to divert almost 50% of our state reservoirs into the rivers to keep salmon capable of migrating otherwise we face a complete ecological collapse and there's nothing else we can do about it short of having citizens raise a militia and take over both states and by force enact countermeasures to the extremely strategic raping of the land they've been doing for the past 40 years. Nike and other large corporations in Oregon also back this heavily because of course they're owned by Blackrock and Vanguard, two very very jewish organizations.
>>2864171I can't speak for WA, but it's a similar story in CA where they're being herded up from. (Or drawn, depending on how you look at it.) I've had the misfortune of interacting a lot with homeless people in LA - a close friend went schizo and drifted on and off the street there - and it's absolutely staggering how many of them are from somewhere else and moved there with the full knowledge that they'd be homeless. I remember one guy who straight up admitted that he'd abandoned a career and family in PA and came to LA because he'd rather do drugs all day.CA is overrun with transplants and immigrants in general and has been for decades, and it's the main reason the state is fucked up. The whole place is a revolving door of people from the East and Midwest who show up with heads full of stupid ideas, push for them, and then bail to places like Oregon, Idaho, Colorado, etc. to try again when it doesn't work out. Virtually everybody I grew up with there is sane and normal and as sick of it as the rest of the country are.
>>2864165the coast truly is the tits. get there and experience before more shitskins start showing up. they're building "affordable houses" everywhere now so it's going to go to shit real fast. seaside has junkies and homeless all around
>>2864123So I went out for a walk this morning.Went and got a jacket, hat and trousers from REI yesterday (Turns out I had like $90 on my account somehow).Ended up not even taking the jacket or hat out of my bag and walking round in my t-shirt all day.I went up Elk mountain and King's mountain, about 18km with about 1300m total ascent.It had some nice steep bits and gentle scrambling, took me just over 4 hours.Wasn't too many people either, I only saw groups of people coming down from King's mountain.I'll be heading back to Ireland for a week soon and then back here so I can grab my better gear when I'm there.What would I need for Hood?
>>2864264Found this little chap.Scared the shit out of me when he went darting out under my feet
>>2864264Hood is pretty cold, but honestly spring is coming and even in the snow it's going to be fairly warm. You'd be good with an underlayer of thermals and a nice jacket/boots and hat.
>>2864266Worth noting the only venomous snakes in Oregon are cotton mouths and rattlesnakes. You have to watch out for the spiders here more than anything else, black widows and huntsman are all over.
>>2864274I saw a black widow for the first time in eastern wa a few months ago. ugly little fuckers
>>2864243Yeah I really want to, but it's just far enough from Bend that it doesn't really work well as a day trip, I can manage the 3 hours each way to PDX but once you're talking about 8-10 hours of driving it's not worth it so I'd have to stay at least one night there. Bike might be a different story since the ride there and back is part of the fun, but I've also never done a ride that long so I have no idea if I could handle it in one day. I'm also on a school schedule that makes it tough (I have to get up at 5AM all week and I'm really bad at getting back on track if I fuck it up) but I think I'm gonna try to get out there over summer break.
>>2864348i hate bend and redmond. i don't get what people see in those areas. traffic is a nightmare around there
>>2864356I hear people complain about the traffic a lot and I have to assume they've never spent time in a major city, because it's fucking nothing. My 21mi commute from Bend to Redmond virtually never takes more than 25 minutes, try doing that in any real city. Anyway though, what people see in them is that they've got just enough in the way of city amenities - a Costco, decent restaurants, OK colleges, etc. - while still being reasonably small and quiet and being very close to a huge variety of /out/ options. I personally also like that it's pretty middle of the road politically, obviously there are exceptions but in general you don't get obnoxious shit shoved down your throat constantly from either side like you do in big cities or some rural areas.
>>2864358i know it's not as bad as a big city but there's a highway running through the middle of each town with 1 way in and 1 way out. so fucking annoying getting stuck behind slow people >t. nonjeettruckerchad
>>2864356i hate DRIVING TO BEND from eug/spr so fucking much. every time, every fucking god damn time>2 lane, 55mph (if you're lucky)>PASSING LANE: everyone speeds up to 80mph (no one is able to pass)>end of passing lane: every one slams on their brakes. back to 55mphwhat is this pathology? why is this not a capital offense? homicide is absolutely fucking justified.christ, i'm getting angry just thinking abou this cuntery.
>>2864363RIGHT?! oregon drivers are the biggest fucking retards on the road by 6 million miles. I used to think it was CA drivers but they at least try to hustle. ORtards will act like stoned autistic children all over the road. they leave their high beams on, won't let you pass, will engage in mormon drag races on 2 lane highways (both lanes blocked by jackasses driving 5 under the speed limit), and so on. it's a special breed of retard around there
>>2864363I don't find the people speed up in passing lanes. What I do notice is that passing lanes on these mountain highways are typically uphill, so people accelerate to maintain their speed. The people cruising the speed limit probably have cruise control on and their car accelerates automatically when going up hill, while the person wanting to pass behind them is not on cruise control and thus has a delayed reaction when it comes time to accelerate uphill.
>>2864345I became immune to their venom for several years when I was a kid because of how often they'd bite me in my Mom's garden. I'm too chicken shit to see if I still am, probably not. I think they're beautiful honestly, but I associate the big glossy black ones with vivid red dew-covered roses in the dark blue mornings and their thorny vines climbing dark green-blue verdant hedges in dim light. I've always loved them despite how aggressive and dangerous they can be, they're actually pretty much a nigger of spiders but I still appreciate that attribute of them as it adds to the aesthetic I described in a way and complements the roses in those attributes as well. >>2864367I use to think all the shitty drivers in Oregon were California transplants until I drove in California and realized real californian drivers will just merge in front of you and force their way in on the logic "we both don't want to die so you'll move the fuck back out of my way and let me in". Oregon drivers are mostly rubber-necking old people who can't fucking drive or fat pitmommy style women who again can't fucking drive. I know this is a global thing too, but I have driven all over the US and Oregon and Washington are the capital of "big black dodge RAM faggot you know has little-man syndrome and tailgates you with highbeams on in the middle of the night on backroads" faggots who I'm ironically and satirically about ready to just start shooting if they ever follow me out far enough in a logging road.
>>2864371yeah, i don't think so man. it's like this mad-cap dash to get going as fast as possible, lest someone gets ahead of them.and then for no god damn reason at all they ALL SLAM ON THEIR BRAKES and go back to 55mph just as the passing lane ends.so no one gets to pass, and it's just a cunty bullshit drive until the next passing lane, and the cycle repeats.my in laws live in bend, we live in CG, i've given up driving out to see them, i just let the wife drive and have a J or a beer or two before we leave. the road rage isn't healthy.
>>2864373Tailgating in general is fucking horrible out here. People seem to just do it out of habit, like they think following so close that you can't see the bottom of their bumper in the rearview is normal and appropriate. Most of the time it's not even like they seem to want to go faster, I've had plenty of times where I got over and they kept doing the same speed, or where they were doing it in the right lane while the left was totally empty, or whatever. CA is a mixed bag because so much of the population are transplants and immigrants. Locals are generally pretty solid because learning to drive there kinda forces you to git gud, but the majority of people on the road there are either transplants who thought places like Bend had bad traffic before they moved to LA and are completely out of their depth, or immigrants from places where the rules of the road are completely different. (And in many cases, are illegal immigrants or criminals afraid of getting pulled over.)
>>2864363Yeah, going anywhere on the other side of the Cascades is a pain in the ass. It's a total crapshoot whether you'll get stuck behind an RV going 35mph or tailgated by somebody who refuses to pass even when you slow down to 20mph in the passing lanes too. People in Bend would have a meltdown if they heard me say it but fuck I wish we had a real freeway connecting us to the rest of the world. >>2864362Yeah, that's definitely a pain in the ass. I commute from the south edge of Bend to Redmond as well so I have to deal with that shit every day. I think they should build a highway bypass around the east edge of town, we're gonna need it eventually anyway once the city keeps growing in that direction, but there's no political will to get it done.
>>2864393I usually drive highway 58 at least once a week and always just cruise control 60mph the entire time. I have never encountered someone speeding up while you try to pass them. The most annoying thing I have encountered is a semi passing me that wants to go 80mph down hill but then slows down to 30mph at the next uphill and forces me to pass them.
>>2864403We need a proper freeway that goes straight out east from Klamath through Bonanza and out to Nevada, connect it all the way to the other size to Pine City and then you now have a gateway from Flagstaff Arizona directly to Klamath Oregon which opens up Crater Lake region to the Colorado and Arizona mountain tourism more. It would generate both a need and solution for greater infrastructure to be built through an area that's pretty much just entirely desert with nothing in it, and could maybe turn Klamath into a place that isn't just rural Medford next to a poison lake.
>>2862543I wish. Ain't got no fucking money to do shit.
>>2864460Having no money has never stopped anyone from moving to Oregon.
>>2864406yeah I don't know what to tell you. What i'm referring to isn't just ONE person pulling that cunty faggot bullshitit's more like you have a line of cars, all going 55mphthen they get to a passing lane and every. fucking .one of these MOTHER CUNTING FAGGOTS immediately slams the gas and speeds up so that no one can pass. Then, for no fucking reason, none at FUCKING ALL once the passing lane ends they all slam on their brakes in unison, going back to 55mph.you seriously have never seen this happen????
>>2863013boohoo bitch, low income tax doesn't mean you're free it means your government is a bunch of careerist stooges, and you're complacent with mass corporations (the tech & oil ones obviously ruining the planet everywhere, but mining & logging companies ruining your local nature) being your true authoritarian overlord. Cry me a river. The leftist femi-men voters in your state are the actual force protecting your /out/ domains from being exploited so you can hunt & fish, even if you have to swallow a few regulations to do so.
>>2864468I see this shit all the time on Highway 26 and highway 30 going to and from the Oregon coast. Speed limit is generally 55, all the faggots in the Tesla’s and Prius who drive 53 or slower and then when you try to pass them they speed up to 70 forcing you to get up to 90 sometimes just to get around them. It’s all the fucking asshole liberals. These are the worst type of human beings alive other than shitskins.
>>2864574You’re not going to like what happens to you when you get away from your shit hole communist cities. The patience for your type has run out
>>2864641I get the opposite, people ride my ass but then refuse to pass no matter how much I slow down in the passing lane. It's especially bad on my bike, which can barely do 70 on flat ground and sucks to ride at that speed, but I think people see motorcycle and assume it's fast. Another one is when you get the guy who goes like 1mph more than the person he's passing so he uses up the entire passing lane and the other 20 cars stuck behind the semi truck are still stuck.
>>2862553We're full here too in the Democratic People's Republic of California. Fuck off.
>>2864644As a Nonjeettruckerchad I can explain to you that truck drivers are unequivocally some of the biggest pricks on the road just behind Tesla drivers. I don’t know what the fuck these people are doing, maybe checking their grinder, watching porn, trying to text underage kids, talking to whomever it is jeets are always screaming at into the phone, but they never use cruise control and they sit there in the right lane vacillating between 62 miles an hour and 58 miles an hour. When you try to pass them in a limited truck they can only do 65, these small dick shitskin retards Will speed up for some reason and do everything they can to not let you pass. Maybe they think they’re losing izzat, I don’t know. But one of these days I’m just going to sideswipe them and try to run them off the road when I realize I’ve had enough diversity for one lifetime. Anyway, if you ever decide to go postal in that situation, take out the driver of the truck who is being passed slowly because that prick more than likely sped up to try to prevent the passing from happening.
>>2864662I should clarify, I meant regular cars/pickups passing trucks slow as hell. If I ever do go postal in a truck situation I'll aim for the curry smell.
>>2864671Good man
