>>2866074
Have you figured out your tent situation from the other thread?
Also, tell us any first hand stuff you have learned so far. Good luck and have fun!

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>>2866079
>Have you figured out your tent situation from the other thread?
I am seddled with the tent, I still wish I would of got a different one but im working with it, I am going to spend the night here becuase their is a spring in this canyon that I can filter to fill up water bottles

>>2866110
Comfy camp. Do you really need a tent in that environment though? I understand if you need it later in your trip but right there I would just cowboy it

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>>2866114
No don't need the tent at all, just a bug net would be fine, filtering some water at the spring before it gets dark, and then I will make my dinner

sage

>>2866074
Stolen Palestinian land, go back to Poland OP

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bump op, stay safe out there and watch out for "waitresses"

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>>2866074
I saw your post about talking to actual humans, and the draw of being part of a madcap historical anomaly instead of watching it from the outside.
It made me think, which I appreciate. It's so rare to encounter a new thought. I don't want to convince anyone, I just want them to expand my mind, but I am usually disappointed too.
I wish you well on your journey. Enjoy the time to think.

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>>2866074
Started day two, got a later start than I would of liked to, had some complications with the water filter, broke one of the sqeaze bags, think the terian will be easier today mostly walking thru washes, the goal is to reach a campground with a water faucet, that some kids told me is up trail, I have two cans of tuna, four instant noodles and a bag of couscouse, this must hold me out untill I reach the town of be'er ora probably some time tomrow or the day after, pic is last night's grub two cans of tuna mixed with couscous

>>2866185
You must add more calories to your diet, if you think you're gonna make 1000km on a deficit you better be 200kg of fat and muscle.
See if you can load up in town, meats, oils, carbs, and get some dried meats too and good Intel on water ahead, faucets can be broken and springs can be shitted up.
Sorry man I don't mean to be a sad cunt, you know your situation better than anyone. Just look after yourself :)

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>>2866188
I will take your advice I hope to reach a kibutz were I can resupply by the end of today, I spent yesterday at a formal campground they had a water faucet their, I filled up and now on day three am aiming to reach my first human settlement

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>>2866074
Yesterday I saw two ibex yesterday, I noticed one eating from a tree as I approached it went and sat in the shade of a rock, I tried to get closer for a better pic and when I did a second ibex I did not see jumped down from an acacia tree

religion is harmful to society

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>>2866246
I set up camp for the third day, I am now trying to walk to the kibutz to buy food and charge electronics probably won't be back untill after dark

have a safe journey anon

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I made it to the kibutz bought food, some one brought me back to their house made me a burger, offered me a shower and a place to sleep tonight, told me he has a 4x4 and would drive me back to my camp tomrow after prayers also said I could come back for shabbat, my camp is three miles away, it is just past ten thirty at night and it is raining, hopefully it dose not get flooded out, I'll probably sleep on their couch tonight and move my camp closer to the kibutz tommorow, will stay in the vicinity untill after shabbat and then get back heading north

>>2866282
you sound like a faggot and a beginner, it sounds like you are very close to civilization for the most part and abusing it, i bet it's actually a very easy hike

in any case i'm sure you are having fun and it's nice, good for you and keep at it

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>>2866287
This is the path, I started at the beging in eilat I hope to make it all the way to the border with Lebanon, some of the terian is quite extreme, and weather is a factor it can get very hot here, today was fairly easy mostly just walking thru washes

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>>2866287
Please elaborate on your critisims

>>2866289
religion is a front to justify homophobic persecution and serves no useful function
you are participating in a system of oppression, and worse, revel in it, and view yourself as holy for doing so

>>2866290
yeah we should persecute homos just because we don't like them

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>>2866290
You clearly recognize my post and remember that I am an Orthodox Jew, becuase I have not brought up religon as it dose not protaine to this thread, witch as I will remind you is about my 1000km backpacking trip along the Israel national trail, pic related ornate uromastyx I saw on day one

>>2866290
Reddit

>>2866185
those squeeze filters suck ass. idk how people deal with them, they're slow as fuck and the bags are annoying as hell to fill and it takes forever. i accepted the weight of a pump filter after trying out a squeeze to save weight.

>>2866302
Have you learned any skills about desert travelling?
Please tell us what you have experienced about temperature, water, shade, day and night and what ever else.

>>2866074
What do you do with the sunlight?, do you walk a few kms and rest in a shadow to cool yourself, you pour water on your head constantly or what do you do? Because I've walked under the sunlight and just after like 1 or 2 hours the hot is too much for your head and body in general. Specially if there is little wind.

>>2866289
from the pics it looks like it's all well marked trails and you talk about finding people and staying with them and so on. and the things you highlight seem a bit dumb like the ibex, and other things idk. don't take it seriously

i never understand these long hikes, they don't seem worth it at all for me. and that environment looks pretty boring but i've never been there so nevermind. and even when i'm doing things that i myself consider boring, at the end of the day it always ends up being fun

i hope you carry a lot of water as reserve always. i usually take 1l but i've never been in a desert

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>>2866309
It took me over 30 minutes to fill up 6 liters filter got clogged and one of the bags popped on me, onwilmhabe to find an after market part to optimize it, I'm thinking to use an empty bottle in place of the bags in the mean time, but it will be a while untill I use it again, not a lot of springs in the Negev
>>2866311
>skills about desert travelling
Yes but it all common sense stuff, when your walking in a wash try to stay towards the side of it on slightly higher ground were the soil is former you walk faster and with less effort on hard pack ground vs the soft sand, it's also not good to walk on the heat of the day best time for traveling is early morning and late after noon, mid day is a good time to stop and eat lunch in the shade
>ever else.
Clothing is very important you want to cover as much of your skin as possible, loose well breathing clothing is essential, I just bought two white long sleeve dry fit shirts to wear when I get back on the trail, if i learn anything else I will tell you
>>2866323
Honestly In the heat of the day walk like 15 minutes then take a short break then walk another 15 minutes and so on, I take it slow I am in no hurry
>>2866350
Great b8 bro
>>2866074
We went and got my stuff, the guy has a 2024 electric hummver, we scratched the fuck out of the side of it on a tree on the way out their, gave it some nice Arizona pinstripes,.I'll be back on the trail Sunday after shabbat

>>2866290
>biggest problem with religion as a concept is the treatment of faggots
dude what are you like 15, go back to roblox

>>2866353
whats it like visiting israel as zera yisrael, was raised secular w/ jew dad

>>2866485
almost every religion is centered around sexual suppression, especially of men, and of homosexual men
the concept of holiness is always applied to heteronormative breeders and marriage is the most important religious ceremony and a way to exclude gays from social status and public life

anon I don't think was even raised religious, he moved from America to Israel because he's schizophrenic.

Anyone participating in organized religion is complicit in homosexual genocide.

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>>2866488
It's like going to a family gathering full of people you dot really no but non the less feel warmth and closeness with, I have spent the last four nights sleeping on the couch of some one I did not even know, I went into town to buy food and they insisted I stay with them for shabbat
>>2866074
I am back on the trail now my goal for today is to reach timna lake
>>2866551
>complicit in homosexual genocide.
That sounds like a good thing to me

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>>2866074
A little bit past 8 at night here very dark but a nice temperature for walking, and I have made it to a place called the chudnow visitor center, it is closed but I managed to refill a few bottles of water outside of it and catch this geko off of one of it's walls, I also heard a pack of canids sound off possibly Arabian wolfs but I don't know becuase I did not see them, will rest q few minutes and precede to the designated campground

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>>2866074
Not going to a campground in the end, I'm just gonna sleep out under the stars in this wash, cooking up a can of tuna right now, covered 9 miles today

>>2866185
Are you doing the israeli trick with the tuna to make it smoky

>>2866290
I'm religious and I love fags as long as they are mostly monogamous and not spreading disease or being left wing activists.

>>2866290
So much edge. I will pray for you anon. God bless.

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>>2866652
I did it last night, the fire you see in my last pic is a tuna can, sometimes it's easier to just fold a square of toilet paper and light it on fire than to bust out the propane stove
>>2866656
It's not about love or hate it is about following g-ds instructions, just saw two ibex

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>>2866074
Ran out of daylight yesterday five miles short of my target, less than one liter of water left, will get moving shortly, slept out on this exposed ridge used my tent as a ground cover cold and windy up here, happy with the performance of my sleeping bag

>>2866583
thanks
great thread btw

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hello friend

Who stole all the trees and plants from this landscape?

neat i only did the southern part of the INT
like 10 years ago
>>2866287
israel isn't a big country so everything isn't that far from civilization
but that's the most sparse part of the country

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>>2866775
Hello
>>2866780
Did you us water cashes?
>>2866074
I have made it to the village of shaharut, about 150 people love here it is a weird place, some one built a few adobe brick structures that are very cool, I came to fill up on water, but my back is fucked up I will probably stay close by untill it stops hurting

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>>2866074
Spent the night in a campground a few kilometers passed shaharut, met two other hikers their, they told me I should use a water cash and to download some hikeing app, at the campground their was a sink i fill up on water their, now I'm trying to go to neot samadar well their is still daylight

Archeo/anon/ here, any interesting archaeological stuff from your journey?

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>>2866836
I passed this about an hour ago, its not that interesting, it's part of something they call the leapords temple
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_Temple

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>>2866074
Boring second ion of the trail right now, mostly just meandering along the highway, lt of military stuff here, sat down to eat lunch and the army came and talked to me, just caught this lizard, it started playing dead after I grabbed it, poured some water on it and let it go in the shade

>>2866685
what a retarded way to prepare tuna brain dead stupid

>>2866841
why? it's a tradition what works quite well

>>2866839
Ooh, interesting, a 5000 BC stuff, and excavated by Avner, good archaeologist; will have a fun time reading about it..

also, while you're walking, are you noticing some ceramic potsherds? those are a big deal for us archaeologists, they're literally indicators of past human activities (imagine it was past people's plastic, they would use it everywhere)

also N2 and fun fact, I noticed in some of your photos some aligned stones in a specific shape (circular i.e.); those could be the trace of some ancient settlements; basically, you're standing in the same place where some past/anon/s stood and did their life like you and me; just imagine how they would live, will mindblow you, guarantee it..
if you're interested, I do have some good references about them

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>>2866843
>are you noticing some ceramic potsherds?
I have not found any pot shards or artifacts of any kind , I have seen some unnatural rock formations but Its hard to tell how old that stuff is, often time I wonder how people could survive in such places back then and think they must have been more lush in the past, this is the valley were the archeological site is located and as you can see it is covered in grass, every were else around it for long distances is moonscaped,i will look over Amy references you want to post and if I find anything cool I will share it here

>>2866287
>sounds like you are very close to civilization
basically the Appalachia trail.

>>2866845
I see; in such cases, it's precisely with those sherds that you can tell in general the age (there are other methods, but those imply some more serious work & funding, like palaeobotany)

Back then (~~5000 BC to c. 600 AD), the weather was a bit wetter, effectively, but it was still not as good as to have enough water for agriculture (minimum 250 ml/year); that's why people there would be what we call semi-nomadic people, going and staying at a certain place then moving back somewhere else: for example, from the arid Timna to the relatively more humid and welcoming Faynan (this precise example bc of the copper ores; take some photos if you find some, they were and are a pretty important feature of the Arabah valley historically speaking)

on another note, you may notice some stone structures that were water reservoirs, but those came a bit later in time (more Iron Age-y iirc, need to double-check)

as for some nice evening readings (now that it's 21:07) about the region/Arabah valley during ancient times, I could recommend "Archaeology and Desertification: the Wadi Faynan Landscape Survey, Southern Jordan" (open access on Jstor https://www.jstor.org/content/oa_book_edited/j.ctv307fh28 ) and "New Insights Into the Iron Age Archaeology of Edom, Southern Jordan" (https://files.catbox.moe/xg5ny7.pdf)

PS- if you pass by Timna, go have a look, really nice place, particularly if a real archaeologist explains you about the site; in this matter, if Erez Ben Yosef is there, he's a pretty nice gentleman and one of the directors of excavations there (he has some of his lectures on YT, would also recommend), say hi to him, from the part of an archaeo/anon/ that admires his works (and that for now, couldn't communicate with him because of legal reasons...)

>>2866852
that one has pretty mountains and forests and is interesting, though. granted OP is only getting started on his but so far it looks boring as fuck

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>>2866856
I already passed thru timna and but I did not come near any of the mines or archeological sites,no remember you your the Lebanese anon, best regards
>>2866944
Their will be forest after I get out of the Negev it's going to take a few more weeks
>>2866074
On Wednesday I hike 22 kilometers to kibutz neot samadar, their they have a place for people doing the trail to sleep, I met up with one of the people who was at the same campground as me the night before, on Thursday I took a bus to town to find a place to spend the holy day and buy provitions, I will return to the point on the trail I left off at on Sunday

>>2866074
Amazing anon. You’re living truly.

>>2866991
oh, glad to see you still remember me, cheers & good luck

Just be cautious when you get to the north of the country, for obvious reasons (but if you do get there, Tell Dan is a must; iirc, some other archaeological sites are there too, so you can enjoy some good trip in the Past cumulated to your trip in space)

based chad habadnik dabbing on the soi goys

>>2866944
I also prefer forest and mountain but crossing the desert can be pretty challenging. Plus, animals, dawns and sunsets can be pretty unique.

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>>2866074
some people I met on the street invited me over for shabbat and they set me up in their building bomb shelter witch they use a a a space to escape from their kids and do cocaine,now I have left mizpe Ramon, got a ride from a reservist and am heading to the trail now
>>2867145
The goy fears the Jewish outdoor enthusiast

>>2866074
>I am going on a long dangerous trip where I can break a leg and fucking die because the closest human is 100s of km away with absolutely no gain but brownie points from /out/ and reddit faggots

>>2867169
>>>/in/

>>2867169
not me but some people are actually pulling for this

reverse searched the pics, turn out they've been posted on pol, so we have yet another pol refuge
crosslinked from pol to out multiple times
snooped around and turn out he's a prolific shitposter and unhinged nutjob

>>2867184
>nutjob

just look how he "cooks" tuna, tells you every thing you need to know

>>2867184
Matthew is well known on /int/ and /pol/

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>>2866074
Today I have reached shitim, it is apparent a retreat village, I will probably end up walking a kilometer or so outside it's boundaries and find a quiet place to sleep, today's section of the trail was rather boring, all flat land along a road between two tank foreign ranges, littered with bullets and ammo cans, covered about 16 kilometers or 10 miles
>>2867184
Here is a pic I never posted on pol faggot

>>2867190
>shitim
No kidding lad

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>>2866074
I slept exposed last night near shitim, alinsaw two gazels yesterday and have seen six so far today, still just going along the highway I am headed for nahal vardit

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>>2866074
I have reached the campground for today, I met up with some one I saw on the trail last week, going to fill bottles today, might have to go two days from here without getting more water

>>2867248
can you see the galaxy at night? you should take pictures

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>>2866074
Walking together with the dude from the camp ground today, have covered about 10 miles so far, at one point we reach a steep sided canyon flooded with water and had to turn back and climb over the canyon completely, expecting to reach the camp site around dark
>>2867251
On some nights I can but my phone's camera is not good enough to capture it

>>2867324
for a starry night, you have to put on a very long exposure length of time; for that, you have to select the "pro" version (as in professional camera; it's where you change from simple photo to video or panoramic etc)

and on another note, a little video that could interest you (maybe) concerning some of the discussion above:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dg5h7kiRg

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>>2866074
Ended up doing 30 kilometers yesterday by the end of today I will have done about 20, hopeing to find a market at the upcoming town
>>2867352
My phone dose not have a pro mode, the camera is shit, their is a night mode I can try when the moon gets smaller, also I have watched that video before, I actually came to an interesting argealogical site today the remains of an old nabatean fort and a roman caravanserai

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>>2867352

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>>2866074
I made it to the town of tzofar pronounced like so far about an hour before dark, i stocked up on food,hung out in a grassy area in the center of the town untill 1:30 in the morning when I was drink enough to not be to bothered by my leg, walked a mile and half back to the trail by moon light and art up under an acacia tree, tomrow is an easy day five miles untill the next town were I will spend shabbat

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>>2866074
Only did five miles today, to the town of Sapir, will rest here untill after shabbat, encountered this structure on the way here, don't know what it is, feet and legs hurt hopefully they will be better by Sunday

>>2867403
oh, interesting that you've seen the video before, you've done some research; great!
and good job for the multiple kilometres! don't tire yourself too much though, fren , take care of yourself eh

and interesting site that we have here, particularly the view from there; good stronghold to observe the surroundings. I wonder if there are plans for more research there (particularly around the hydraulic aspect)

>>2867516
and my guess that it's pretty recent: the window squares are still there + very sloppy stone masonry; compare with the Nabatean building, where it's cleaner, even though 2k years passed by...

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>>2866074
I have left the town of saphir and am heading back into he desert, now is a relatively remote section of the trail I will not come across a city for a few days, I have 9.5 liters of water in my backpack and much food, this will have to hold me over untill I encounter a water source

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>>2866074
I have been walking into the desert away from saphir for four days now, it's only supposed take three days to reach the next city, but I have been walking slow, filtered water from a few pits along the way
>>2867614
Your the one that showed me the video on another board, I passed an archeological site yesterday, but I was to far away to get close, it's down on the desert flour in this pic if you zoom on on the center left you will see a square structure

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>>2866074
I made it to mizpe Ramon last night, climbed put of the crater in the dark and slept in this wooden deck, view point thing at the edge of the town, I will continue moveing along on Sunday