>"backcountry" camping requires reservation and designated campsite
>>2869046Dont you want to camp in the backcountry (in an area popular enough to have a permit system) without seeing and hearing a bunch of other fuckers?
Imagine being so cucked by the government that you actually try to win a fucking lottery to be allowed to go innawoods and only camp in designated spots lmaaaoo
>>2869046Such is life in a low trust society. What are you going to do, let the boondockers overstay their welcome and cover random sites in litter with no way to catch them?The reservation system make it possible to kick the undesirables out.
>>2869116I love it when newfags wander into threads they have no idea what is being discussed and then offer their opinion like it fucking matters. There are no boondockers in the backcountry. Also OP is just a troll who has like you never touched grass but he knows the lingo.
>>2869046Permits and designates sites are necessities for heavily-trafficked areas. You’d know that if you’ve ever been to a national forest or wilderness area that has a lot of visitors.>backcountry in quotesYes, as opposed to frontcountry. These are well established terms that were familiar with but confuse and anger you. Also note that “car camping” does not mean sleeping in your car (/out/ hates that fact and insists otherwise). Pic is from NPS.gov
I just got back from a portaging trip. It was 40 Canadian rubles for a 3 day 2 person trip. For that we got sites with guaranteed room for tents, a fire pit and a picnic table. They actually came around and checked permits so ensure no squatters which is nice. They also provide maps and info about the park. Worth the price of admission. Why are you going to a maintained park and complaining about fees if what you want is the middle of fucking nowhere?
>>2869046it doesn't
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West Virginia has a bunch of dispersed campsites by various rivers, free, no reservation, but if you try to get a popular one like Cranberry River on a weekend, you won't. That's kinda the point of reservations, it sucks if you don't have one, but it's better than driving all that way just for all the sites to be taken before you arrived. PA I think they changed the rules now so car camping sites you have to pay 5$ a night and reserve online but they DO have a lot of them and they are in really good places (near trailheads, by nice overlooks, not just along rivers).In both PA and WV backcountry sites, anything you have to hike into is free and doesn't need a reservation except minor cases like Laurel Highlands Trail, for example, you do need to reserve the campsites in advance.
>>2869046I dunno. I camp in Yellowowstone back country a lot and Im fine with designated spots. There's always a fire pit, bear pole etc..., they are always in the best spots where you want to camp anyways. its a small price to pay literally and figuratively lol. I never have issues reserving what/when i want but I never go in summer. A certain percentage of their sites are first come first serve walk-in reservation. but if I dont like it the NF is just around the corner...
All of the backcountry I've done has been without reservation, in completely empty land, with no wardens (because it isn't in a park), and I could and did camp anywhere I wanted. And I never ran into anyone out there. Sounds like you're just doing safe and boring camping with more steps.
Oh no!!! You mean they don't just allow hundreds of jeets to filter there way into dangerous backcountry, shit up the place, make a complete mess, and then require rescue? You mean they actually force you to camp at specific spots so that people don't completely fuck the ecosystem over time by plopping down their giant tents and garbage on fragile plant life?!Wow, it's amazing how people from /out/ actually hate nature!
>>2869046what's the original of that image?
>>2869046Don't want to deal with permits, don't go to popular areas.In the PNW there is tons and tons of national forest land where you can backcountry camp wherever you want. Then there are a few specific areas that require permits because they are very popular and would be overcrowded otherwise. National parks here are a bit worse and typically require a backcountry permit for any backcountry camping, but if you are not going to a super popular area you will have no issue obtaining one. They are mainly just for the national park to keep track of you.
