Not too certain which one to Get. From L-R, Durston X-Mid 1, Outdoor Vitals Cirq, SMD Lunar Solo
>>2869629Tarptent double rainbow
>>2869629The size and weight of the X-Mid 2 is so small you might as well get the 2-person. The 1p feel more claustrophobic than most 1p tents, and the 2p has more space compared to other 2p tents. Source: I own the 1 and upgrade to the 2.Heard Lunar got condensation issues but I guess it could depend on the regional climate.
>>2869676I second getting a 2 person tent, but I advise you buy a $60 tent from Amazon. All tents will break eventually through use no matter how much you spend on them. More expensive tents offer nothing meaningful in terms of features other than lighter weight potentially. Unless you really need the weight savings just buy a cheap tent.
The Lunar Solo is a single walled shelter. If you hike anywhere with moderate or higher humidity (basically anything east of the continental divide), you’re going to have condensation issues. I’m pretty sure the Corq is as well.Both the Lunar Solo and the Cirq are single pole shelters with the same ubiquitous design. Both f you’re taller than 6’, you’ll be a little cramped.The X-mid is more spacious (5” wider) and has steeper walls, so there’s more usable interior space. The vestibules are larger as well. And it’s a double-walled shelter. >>2869676>The 1p feel more claustrophobic than most 1p tentsIt’s more spacious than comprable non-freestanding tents. The floor space is larger than most 1p tents, and the offset two pole design giver more usable floor and more headspace than anything using a single pole or two poles inline.
>>2869629Don't be enticed by the price of the Lunar Solo. I own one.- you have to seam seal it yourself- single walled construction- does not come with poles and stakes- I am 5'10" and it brushes the soles of my feet and the top of my head- ventilation problems, it collects a lot of condensation. Those vents on the bottom don't work very well- vestibule doesn't fit a full 60L packI talked to a lot of people on here about it and realized that this is what's known as the "West Coast Effect."I think in perfect dry 70 degree California weather, this tent could work. Here on the East Coast, it didn't serve me. It wasn't worth it, even with the discount. It was really wet sleeping in it, especially with my head brushing the inner wall.
>>2869913I too have a lunar solo. I have had it for 9 years and it's a great tent-It came with a carbon fiber pole which I still have. Comes with optional heavy duty bucket floor that two dogs have failed to peirce.-It wasn't hard to seam seal and you will have to learn or buy a new tent every 5 years anyways.-I am also 5'10" and only had problems with head or feet touching if 1) didn't wait for the fabric to relax then tighten it up and 2) didn't use the tie out points to make more room. That said, I wouldn't buy it if you are taller than 5'10".-It comfortably sleeps a man and 100lb dog if you keep your pack in the vestibule.-I always keep my 80L pack and shoes in the vestibule>>2869676>>2869725>>2869913>condensationThese users aren't setting the tent up correctly. The entire outside of the tent should be above the ground. The vestibule / front of the tent will be several inches above the ground. The top of the tent is open. There is so much ventilation it is impossible to get condensation. The only times I have had condensation issues was using it in cold weather and pulling the tent walls down to the ground to reduce airflow and preserve heat. I would not recommend this tent as a cold weather tent but it doesn't have condensation issues.
>>2870039California fag detected. What you don’t understand is that many of us experienced this issue, then saw that hundreds of other people have as well. >it’s so ventilated you can’t have condensation issueNigger I’ve had condensation problems sleeping in a fucking hammock.
>>2870088>California fag detectedI took the lunar solo down both the AT and CDT, also the NPT, Cohos Trail, Frontier Trail, North Country Senic Trail, Bruce Trail, Ganaraska and LaCloche Trails just to name a few. Guess where I'm located.If you have condensation issues it's user error or it's just before a rain in the summer heat in which case it doesn't matter what you have.The person above is setting his tent up wrong, you can tell they have the tent walls pulled down to the floor restricting airflow, that's why they have no room and the vestibule is small. That's why they have condensation.If you set up your tent in a bad location eg pocket without airflow that's user error too.Comparing a closed hammock to an open tent is apples and oranges. There will always be some condensation with any tent - see morning dew - but it's not an issue, it will be gone by the time you pack your tent in the morning if you set up somewhere with sun.
>>2870088>many of us experienced this issue, then saw that hundreds of other people have as well.Hundreds of people just might be idiots and not know how to select a site or set up their tent correctly and then blame the equipment.Even if you don't have experience with the tent like I do logic can tell you that the above is much more likely than a tent that has an average of 3 or 4 inches of open space around the entire perimiter. Is trapping water vapour from your breath, etc and allowing it to condensate. The lunar solo is one of the best ventillated tents out there. So well ventillated that it's a problem keeping them warm.
>>2869629Whichever one will allow your mother and I the most space and comfort while I'm just railing the dogshit out of her, champ. And don't fuck it up this time, or I'm getting my fucking belt.
>>2869635I sold this one
>>2869629I would be reluctant to get a 1P tent that requires two poles to setup. The lightest 1P (and probably shelter in general) is the zpacks pocket tarp or hexamid. If I was going super UL or trail running I’d get that. While I don’t own one I like the x-mid 2p design. If I’m gonna pack a tent it means I either want tons of bug-free space and headroom or I’m with the gf who wants the privacy. consider a flat tarp. It’s nice because there’s no parts that can break and since it’s just a flat fly it should experience minimal wear (no creases or weird diagonal tension on the fibers). sleeping under them is great, nothing will give you as much space and being able to sprawl out or piss easily is great. and it can be used for just chilling under when it’s raining. fun to set up too, can get creative with the surroundings and it gives you nice modularity. For bug protection in a tarp you can get a bug bivy or something more minimal like pic rel depending on how bad it is.
>>2871354I have that bug net (Yama mountain gear bug canopy) and an 8x10 HMG flat tarp. I like to cowboy camp and sleep under the stars so a single walled tent is a no go for me. I live in the PNW so bugs aren’t that bad but if I was going somewhere else I’d probably get pic rel. I’ll often pitch my tarp high enough that I can stand or at least crouch under it. The only time I’d reach for a tent if I’m with the gf or if I wanted the ability to sit upright within the bug free zone. When the double walled xmid 2p pro drops I’ll probably get it
>>2871355>>2871354This is what you get with a double walled tent though (xmid 2p). A tarp + net will never come close and most of the nets seem janky and loose fitting. It’s the only real shortcoming imo. If I was doing a multi day trip with tons of bugs I’d way rather something like picrel where I could sit up and eat without bugs all over me.
>>2871354>>2871355>>2871358Found this today, seems pretty cool. Bit of a game changer. Tall enough to sit up in, so it'd solve a lot of my pain points I have with tarp camping currently. https://www.simblissity.net/inner-peace.shtml
>>2871458>>2871358>>2871355>>2871354This is the Yama bug shelter, almost bought it awhile ago. You can see from pic rel you can sit up in it. I wish they had a half version that was like an in-between the bug canopy and this that offered enough room to sit up, but was only torso length like the inner peace.I think what would be best is a modular set up. Like a separate bath tub and various netting and wind/splash protection combinations. That way you could just bring whatever's appropriate..
>>2871465>>2871458>>2871358>>2871355>>2871354This is a pretty good idea for a bathtub, too.. Just a groundsheet with some bungees.
>>2871358Maybe I was wrong. This one comes very close.
>>2871355I have decided that this (or the equivalent splash bivy, pic rel) is the best option.This video convinced me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_wQ8KKw13wEverything's just really clean and not janky, looks elegant and it was nice to see something other than an A-frame pitch. At 5.5oz with noseeum netting and a full enclosure, bit of a bathtub too, it's hard to justify going with anything else. The downside is you can't sit up in it, but it seems endeavoring to sit upright under tarps with bug protection is futile anyway.
>>2871664>>2871355I take it back. What would really be best is the one on the right (pic rel), with the bathtub floor from the HMGs. These have top entry, and only need 2 tieouts rather than HMG's 3, and a round footbox. I emailed MLD to see if they'd either do a custom order and make that or just mail the netting and I can sew it to a DCF tub at home. I don't want to own more than one shelter system personally, so I'm just trying to find the right addition to my current bivy-less tarp setup so I'd feel comfortable camping with extreme bugs/critters or in cold + windy areas, where the wind would evade the tarp and sap my warmth. I'd rather it be a purely open top above the bath tub too since that's the whole point of a tarp.
>>2871718Something like this seems pretty logical to me though (the bathtub height). The bathtub provides the wind/draft and splash protection, and the top is completely breathable. It's hard to imagine needing much more. Not too hot in summer and bugproof, but enough protection from wind/rain otherwise when used in conjunction with a tarp.
