>>2870166
Dubs confirm OP woshes they were catching ditch pickles

>>2870175
i know you're literally retarded but you arn't doing any effort either

>>2870166
First time fishing in a couple of decades this weekend. Going with my childhood handline and a basic rod, going to be a mix of beach, rock and jetty fishing. Wish me luck. Will post hits /here/ if I get any.

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Evening lads, no trout today, but got a nice Murray Cod on nightcrawlers. Put up a good fight too

>>2870177
Good luck anon, hopefully ypur dubs are an indication of a good day on the water

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got a few of these prime and pretty bluegill at a spring near my house, water was nice and clear and they went for some pink powerbait instantly. pulled out 5 all around the same size, all looked super healthy. might grab a few on sunday for some dinner

>>2870166
Is she not wearing a top?

>>2870235
skid our local namefag posted his fat ass in a furry gimp mask and nothing else, just hiding his micropenis behind a small channel cat he just fished
so i guess fishing is also about getting comfortable in the great outdoors

>>2870238
Thanks for reminding me. That actually caused me to abandon the thread for months.

>>2870241
why not just call him names and move on tho?

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Hey it’s newbie anon with the new ugly stick from last thread. Guys I fucked up I think. The 12 lb test is being weird. I think I might have put too much lime on the real maybe? Granted I haven’t casted in over a decade but I was only getting 50’-60’? Does that sound short for one handed? The big red flag to me was how much slack I had in the line after casting and even while reeling. Line to heavy maybe? Shit was Giga shallow so maybe my jig head was just hitting the bottom a lot and mostly scraping along?

Started getting weird tangle very quickly, like after 5 cast. Is this because of cast technique the heavier line? Could also be a result of not reeling the line during installation correctly, I feel like I may have twisted the shit out of it.

Anyways, was fun as fuck to atleast practice casting. Got the cousins coming at 7 am in the boat so we will see how it goes.

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A little night fishing to end the week, I’ve still gotta work tomorrow but feels good to get some alone time.

>>2870259
I didn’t see the last thread but if you’re using braid you shouldn’t worry about twisting the line too much, braid has low line memory so it’s more forgiving in that aspect. If you’re casting one handed it’s going to be more difficult to gauge when to release the line, as well as heavier line generally not casting as far. Try casting two handed and only bringing the line back just slightly behind your head. Don’t sweep it too much, let the rod do the work. The line is getting stuck more because it’s a heavier line and you aren’t used to casting it, give it a slight bit more ass when you cast. You can also polish the top of the bale, get some car polish compound and clean up the top lip of the spool.

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random dink from earlier this week

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>when a weight becomes a lure

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Some night fishing on an estuarine river for a few hrs. Heaps of bites but didnt land anything. Bastards kept stealing my worms before I could hook them. Probably dinky fish out there, as my hooks were already quite small. Still a good night on the water, not a soul in sight. Saw a few strange lights in the skies. Zipped in and out of the horizons behind the mountain without a sound. Beautiful clear full moon tonight, barely needed my headtorch.

You anons ever seen anything strange while fishing?

>>2870289
i casted out my line and heard a thud behind me and when i looked there was a rock i hadn't noticed
well the rock started moving and it turned out to be an armadillo
i legitimately thought i was gonna have to blast it with my glock before it started scurrying away and rolling down a hill

>>2870294
Yeah I've caught wildlife by surprise before when fishing, and it caught me too.

Most often it'll be a kangaroo or a possum at night. Fucken have managed to get within a metre of some big roos by chilling silently whilst fishing quite a few times

>>2870289
>You anons ever seen anything strange while fishing?
Last time I was out two gigantic (30"+ around) alligator snapping turtles decided to bum-rush right to my spot and started mating literally 3 feet from me. They did not give a shit and just kept rolling and thrashing around for at least 10 minutes before I just found a new spot.

>>2870242
Because it seemed like his own personal thread, literally every other post was him. I'm pretty sure he's in my neck of the woods too, I recognize a few places in his screenshots.

>>2870259
it's perfectly normal with a spinning reel to have some slack right after the cast. make it a habit to pull the slack taught either with your hand or by lifting the rod tip right after you close the bail after a cast every time. eventually it becomes second nature and automatic. it's best to do that to get the slack out before reeling in any line, otherwise it will come back to haunt you later via jumping off the spool and getting hung underneath. but 12lb is too heavy for the average spinning reel. make use of it for awhile if you can but eventually respool with 8lb yo-zuri hybrid or 8ln trilene XL instead of XT. the XL is softer.

>>2870289
i've seen meter long pike jumping out of water to catch swallows flying over the water to drink, saw that twice
>>2870299
>I'm pretty sure he's in my neck of the woods too
he's fat, it's not like he can be a danger, just run if needed

>>2870299
>skid living rent free in this anon's head

>>2870332
>>skid living rent free in this anon's head
No. Skid is living rent free in that anons fantasies.

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>>2870289
Just a big ass owl, I saw it out of the corner of my eye and turned to it (I was wearing a headlamp with the red light filter) and it saw me and spread its wings wide, seeing the light reflect off its eyes and the huge wingspan scared the fucking shit out of me before it did a "hoot" and I realized it was an owl. I understand why people who are driving late at night while exhausted could think that is a Mothman.

Don't buy a memecaster, I spent years with Shimano and all that shit its fucking pointless just use a decent spinning setup.

>>2870343
>t. never cast further than 30 feet

>>2870343
I converted over to memecaster almost entirely. I only have 1 ultralight spinning setup now

How do you guys remember the difference between rod action and rod power?

>>2870368
Action is how close to the tip it bends. Power is how much weight it takes to bend it.

>>2870368
I look at it as power is how I can set it. Fast power? Flick of the wrist and the hook is set. Slow, I need a big pull up the rod.
Weight is how I fight, light is good for small and inshore, heavy is for when I need to wear a belt and be tied to the chair for a 3+ hour tuna fight.

>>2870370
this. however one thing to add is that the main reason the action is listed as a speed(slow-fast) is because of a thing called "recovery." basically how quickly the rod returns to being straight and and still. slow actions which bend further down the blank, also generally recover more slowly by nature.

>>2870274
Add some rubber octopus skirting assist hooks and that's a prime offshore jig

>>2870344
stop this retarded nonsense, you can cast just as far with the right setup

>>2870394
I agree (different anon). The one exception is big, heavy baits.

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this one was a fun fight
it had thrown the hook and I had to recast for another try

realistically what can I even do about a fish throwing the hook besides applying constant pressure to the hook and keeping my rod tip low in the water?

>>2870454
You want to keep the tip high and make sure to pull back slightly to maintain pressure if not reeling, your only keeping your tip down if it is windy and/or you're not fighting a fish

>>2870454
Just keep the line tight, but you're going to have fish throw a hook, nothing you can do when that happens. Only real advice I have is to learn how some fight and be prepared based on your guess. Like, I do a lot of saltwater fishing, Stripers and flounder dive down while Blues, Tuna and Albacore tend to jump, so within 30 seconds I can usually tell what I have on my hook and "play" the game accordingly.

I never knew people actually caught boots while fishing. I always thought that was just a cartoon thing

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>>2870488
I once caught a battery, like the ones in the Alan Wake flashlights and someone I know caught a dead body (we live like 15 minutes from the Hudson River so people die there all the time its just rare to catch them)

Too busy in my garden haven't had time to fish.

>>2870454
9/10 times a bass throws a hook when it breaches the surface. whether jumping, or just simply when you get it too the boat/bank and lift it's head out of the water. never do that. if you are going to bring them to the surface, it needs to be only to flip them completely out of the water.

>>2870514
This happened to me this weekend. Fish fish I “caught” in 15 years. Super happy that the soft/jig head I picked out actually worked! Was super overwhelmed when picking out my first lures. Made it to the boat so I’m counting thanks again to all you anons giving me advice the last couple days. Super excited to go out and get some swivels and clips now that I understand them and try other lures and be able to swap them out quickly without having to tie everyone lol.

>>2870517
>Super excited to go out and get some swivels and clips now that I understand them and try other lures and be able to swap them out quickly without having to tie everyone lol.
Not good,but I'm glad you got out fishing. You need to be able to tie knots without worry and without taking a long time. This comes with practice, and practice only costs a spool of cheap monofilament line, a lure or something to loop through, and some patience at your desk, in your car, or on the couch. I spool line for a living and fish in my spare time. I've practiced knots for hours. I know tons of them now. Even people with disabilities can learn to tie knots. You probably do not have tremors or a smooth brain, so you don't have an excuse. Go to animatedknots dot com. I recommend the clinch, palomar, and uni in that order.

>>2870520
>>2870517
seconding the guy on learning knots, it will take you an hour or two at most to practice a bunch of knots with a bit of leftover spool, it will prove to be very useful if you need to retie something on the water, loosing a lure can always happen
now i disagree on the choice of knots, your first priority should be the uni and after that it's improved version, clinch have it's uses and it's improved version the trilene knot is on par with improved uni, i don't like the palomar, you could use some loop knots too
i prefer netknots dot com as a ressource

all you need to know is the uni knot. I can tie it in like 30 seconds. 5-6 wraps. it's strong and consistent. I NEVER break off unless I intentionally do so on a snag.

>>2870525
Maybe I should try it
I do improved clinch, but will occasionally burn my mono leaders tying them (with spit)

>>2870511
Catching worms?

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how dead would you say that spool it?

>>2870545
Growing squash, tomatoes, cherry tomatoes, cucumbers, lemon cucumbers, sweet peppers black and orange, spearmint, chocolate peppermint, Greek mountain mint, sunflowers, pineapple weed, cabbage, mustard, and more to come.

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>>2870546
superglue it..

>>2870344
Eh, spinning reel always caster farther practically but baitcasting just have much better control. Control is very important to fishing, especially when you go past shore fishing.

>>2870546
I would toss it. It's clearly old and compromised. Maybe, it will be fine, but maybe, it will break on a fish or a snag.

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>>2870166
hello anons

recently got into fishing a few months ago, been enjoying it a lot. recently found out my cousin wanted to let go of his boat, wondering how it'd be for fishing. it's a 2000 seadoo speedster, 4 seater, twin rotax engine. won't be going anywhere but lakes and some larger rivers. thinking I could mount an anchor to it and some rod holders, go from there.

it's in mostly great condition and I'm getting it for 2.5, market price probably at 6 or so.

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>>2870622

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>>2870622
If it floats, it'll do. But on most lakes and rivers you'd be fine with a tinnie of some kind and an outboard motor. That thing might be overkill, but hey if it's a good price and works alright, just cruise in style. You could take it saltwater fishing too

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I got a 32 inch rat on a popper last night
>>2870622
Dont get that boat for fishing, theres nowhere for a trolling motor, its got fuck all for a deck, fishing rod holders will wind up being cumbersome and in the way, and whatever dumb ass mods you make to retrofit it for fishing will make it hard to sell when you decide you want a real boat. That boat is for pleasure boatihg, i.e. day drinking and driving like a cunt, and its good at exactly nothing else because of it. The only possible excuse for you to buy it is to immediately flip it to buy a fishing boat.

>>2870629
Fuck mate, that's a beauty.

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>>2870630
Thanks anon, im certainly not gonna complain about it
I also hooked this shad in the face with a 12 inch streamer

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>some high school kids at the dock catch a whiting
>spend like 2 mins arguing if they want it what to do with it use it for bait etc
>tell them when in doubt let em go and if they’re going to kill it do it quick there’s already enough suffering in the world he doesnt have time for you to play 20 questions while he’s gasping and dying
>they hand it to me and I brain spike him with an ice pick for instakill
>the broccoli heads look at me like I just showed them nuclear fission or said something profound

Does nobody teach ethics of fishing to not hurt fish unnecessarily and how to humanely kill a fish? That should be the first thing you learn

>>2870638
No one teaches kids ethics full stop most kids spend their time in school trying to figure out how cruel they're allowed to be to eachother

>>2870643
i think you have a personal bias on the matter since your fat ass most likely got bullied
>>2870638
i would have asked first if they have a livebait line ready to be rigged

>>2870183
Weekend was very stormy, managed a couple of herring. Hooked a ray though which was a bit concerning, it took everything below the swivel close to the pier though. A fun fight at least. I really need to work on my knotwork, very out of practice.

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>>2870343
It’s better for heavier baits and straight line casting. I couldn’t get half as far into the cover without a bait caster. If you don’t have a lot of trees/fish open water, then that makes sense I would stick with spinning only as well. But if you’re trying to get under trees/brush or you’re fishing from a kayak sitting down, I wouldn’t trade my casters for anything. I yeet flukes and frogs all day under those trees in the background, and I wouldn’t be able to do the consistently with a spinning rod.

>>2870644

They didn’t, and even if they did

>live bait rigging an entire whiting

For what purpose? Mullet, mudminnows sure but what are the odds you get a redfish big enough that eats an entire live whiting? Same with bluefish, fresh chunks seem almost as good for a redfish and you’re not keeping a fish alive suffering for the off chance a monster comes to eat

>>2870517
That’s awesome man glad you had fun. I agree with >>2870520 those three knots you should be able to do without thinking. Practice over and over with some thick monofilament whenever you’ve got free time, at your desk, at work, watching tv, whatever. You can also think about getting an extra rod or two, different lengths/reels and set them up in advance. I always bring at least two rods, a caster and a spin reel, my caster I have a heavier lure or a finesse setup like a spinner bait/topwater, and then on the spinner I have a Texas rig or a swimbait jig, usually helps with most situations without having to constantly retire unless I get caught or lose a lure.

>>2870638
Honestly just happy they are fishing instead of being brainrotted. I would have taken 5-10 min to explain the reason why what you did after taking care of the catch. Show them the proper technique, but don’t criticize what they did. They probably don’t have a good father figure in their life if they are fishing and didn’t know what to do with a fish, speaking from experience. I didn’t learn how to treat a fish correctly (releasing or killing) by my own father, but I learned from some good old boys (rednecks) when I moved to Texas and picked up bass fishing. It’s hard, especially these days even with the abundance of TikTok fish videos and shit, they only show the bite and the landing, they don’t explain the whole process. You can be that person to show them what and how to correctly handle the fish, and promote the hobby, which seems like you were already doing. I’m glad you were there, otherwise it would have ended badly.

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>>2870650
>an entire whiting
yeah, you'd be surprised, if it's not eating size it's bait size
i got these livebait hooks made to be put in the back of fishes, you can line two of them on a line for bigger ones, i've seen people put up to three in the back of a perch to try to get that record pike
but yead deadbait is acceptable too

Going carpfishin' again on Saturday lads, hopefully no rain

>>2870622
I’ve seen several of these setup as a fish and ski package. You’ll want to attach a mount plate for a bow mount trolling motor, make a plywood carpeted casting deck you can set over the front seats, keep an anchor and a drift sock, install some flush mount rod holder bases and get some rod holders for them. Remember to pre-drill all the holes you’re going to put screws into and to give everything a dab of sealant.
Figure on spending another 2Gs rigging it.

If you want a baitwell/livewell, you’ll need to kludge one together with a pump and a cooler.

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>>2870628
>>2870629
Thanks fellas. I've landed on getting it, it's pretty much a steal and a 'keeping it in the family' sort of deal.

>just cruise in style/day drinking and driving like a cunt
Yeah either way I get to take the mates out on the water for cheap, be a great way to spend the summer

>whatever dumb ass mods you make to retrofit it for fishing will make it hard to sell when you decide you want a real boat
This I don't really care about, it's $2.5k. And I'm no stranger to projects, hell, what >>2870664 suggested even seems relatively cheap and simple should I decide to go that way. A used trolling motor is a couple hundred bucks, same with the batteries. Mounts can be made to be taken on/off quickly and I probably won't go too nuts on a first/gateway boat with a deck conversion, but we'll see

>>2870680
pretty sure pistol shrimp work just as well as any shrimp on a hook

>>2870629
Thats a nice ass fish bro
Cute feet too

>>2870690
what the fuck is wrong with you

pissed i choked on landing 2 fish this morning on my ultralight setup
it feels like there's way less room for error since your hook is smaller and as a result easier for the fish to throw it off
in a way i do enjoy the increased difficulty but fuck i took for granted my 1/0+ sized hooks

Anyone used live shiners for bass and if so what rig? Is it good and viable at a larger dam from the bank?

>>2870700
I haven't done it, but I know it is viable in that situation. Customers do it all the time. I don't know how they do it, but I'm thinking a 3 way or Carolina rig would be best. A bobber could be a good option, but then again, it might be blown away without getting in the zone.

My coworker/friend is at my family's cabin with me for the first time. He has never fly fished, so tomorrow might be rough for him. We, hopefully, will be getting into a Cahill hatch in the evening. I'm looking forward to putting him on three species. I think it will be very doable.

Been a long time since I've fished.. Recently moved back to where I grew up so I bought some new fishing gear. Hopefully I'll get some nice big redfin, I remember it tasted good back then.

>>2870699
it's the big barbs on the large bass hooks that make it easy. it lets you get away with dumb shit that isn't technically the right way to fight a fish. so basically, this will make you a better fisherman by teaching you how to really fight a fish to not lose it. it happens to everyone. you will learn how to feel which direction the fish is going, the direction changes and how to react, preparing for the jumps, etc. once I started using jdm hooks with micro barbs, I had to really get better at fighting fish. it's worth it though. the amount of bites you get on smaller presentations outweighs losing fish here and there.

https://www.boatstogo.com/12-heavy-duty-boat-fb365.asp
What do you guys think about this inflatable boat? I don't have the option of towing a boat. But I have a sedan with plenty of trunk space. But I would still like a boat I can stand in. So none of the usual intex boats fit my need. This one is pricy, close to $1800. But it's supposed to be super durable and can theoretically handle a 30hp motor. I'd be sticking something like a 5-10hp motor on it.

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I love when dinks try to kill lures way too big for them
>>2870646
At least you got some action

And yeah practicing knot work is always a great idea
>>2870654
Good luck anon
I usually just use corn, just corn.
>>2870676
Fair enough i jope you enjoy it.
>>2870690
UwU
Thank you~
>>2870699
Dubs confirm, fish got away

>>2870714
Damn that picture came out for shit

>>2870713
fuck spending that much on an inflatable before you even factor in the cost of a motor. why not rooftop a kayak? or trailer a small jon boat?

>>2870714
>I usually just use corn, just corn.
im more fore boilies, just better in EU and you have a lot of different ones to chose from in fishing stores

>>2870713
No

>>2870700
I dropshot live minnows for walleye and crappie. I get bycatch bass pretty frequently this way. I can’t imagine you wouldn’t get takes if you were putting them where the bass were.

>>2870700
>if so what rig?
just the hook into the bait, and a splitshot about 8in behind it will work
could add a swivel, could add a float if you want to sit back and not keep tension in the line to feel bites
now people hook in different places

>>2870700
Circle hook, no weight. Nose hook the shiner then flip it at cover the same way people flip mullet for snook. If you have trouble keeping track of your bait or want to keep it at a specofic depth you can add a bobber.
>>2870722
Eu carp fishing and hair rigs and all is autistic as hell, even as a fly fisherman. Good luck m8. Id still give straight canned corn a shot, i bet the fish see a lot of boilies.

>>2870717
Can't stand up in a kayak. Can't tow a trailer with my car.

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>>2870755
Yes you can.
Small jonboats weight nothing, and even if you have a parking concern you can have them fit in a single spot if you live in Ana apartment or something.

Don’t buy an inflatable, please man. They always end up having issues long term and you can’t sell them used for shit. At least with a shitty jonboat for 500 bucks you can resell it for 500 bucks when you’re done with.

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>>2870763
get a small boat. or a kayak and cartop it..

>>2870704
Fishing was bad. We got up late. Drove to get lunch and do a hike. Hike was unimpressive. I taught him how to cast in a field. Then, he caught a brookie at creek #1. After that, we both fished a creek but got skunked. My right foot arch hurts a bit.

Went fishing for cutbait and only caught game fish :(. Managed to catch a crappie in 2ft of water.

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>>2870755
> can't stand up in a kayak
there are countless kayaks that you can easily stand up in. I have a kayak that's NOT designed with standing up in mind and I STILL do it every single weekend. I have been in kayaks that are as stable as a 1232 flat bottom jon boat, and those weren't even the kayaks we have nowadays that are literally designed around standing and fishing in tournaments. With a $1500-2000 budget, you can get a top of the line paddle kayak. then you can slap a nk180 motor on it. or you can spend a bit more and have a really nice pedal drive kayak and not worry about motors at all. high resale value, easy of rigging, unload and go, durable, the list goes on.

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Anyone fished Willow River state park in Hudson, WI? Excited for a weekend of (trying, and likely failing at) catching trout. I’ve bought a can of salmon roe and these from Cabela’s.

Worst case scenario, I get to play in the water (welcome during this heatwave!) and find some geocaches.

the homeless camp downtown was moved to the riverbank across the street from my building on the edge of town so the cruise ships can dock some place there isn't a tent city in view and since I don't have a car to drive out of town and can't fish any closer to the docks and park then I already do it's effectively killed my fishing for the summer I am kind of upset ngl

>>2870815
I'm in St. Paul and eager to hear how this works out for you. I've gotten into fishing this spring and has absolutely shit luck with pretty much all the local metro lakes I've hit up. I'm guessing it's a combination of my limited skills and them just getting fished to fucking death. If things are better just outside the cities, it might justify buying a WI license.

>>2870815
Not there but I went fishing in WI on vacation.
If you can't catch anything with Panther Martins there aren't any fish in that puddle, PM's and Mepps are my go-to spinners that never fail

>>2870840
Same boat, different city. I commute into TCM to fish and have little luck. I can catch bluegigi and smallmouth basisi all damn day at Lake Josephine tho… been using some of these (1) with some 1/16 shad heads. The bluegill are so confident there I’ve managed to pluck them out of the shallows with my hands once, lol.

Great spot to swim too… it’s not uncommon for me to abandon fishing for snorkeling once I get too hot.

>>2870843
Good to know. I don’t know shit about fuck, I just have a kid who wants to learn so I better get good quick. He’s got his heart set on catching a musky this season… he’s 9 and 60lbs soaking wet bless his heart.

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>>2870840
>Forgor link
https://www.thornebros.com/products/kalin-grub-2-10-pack?srsltid=AfmBOopRJaNT7xr8tSBaa_lFvHUlOJat-AldXLYH3VCi4Baj100Pp_0_

>>2870851
Panther Martins and Mepps are great for everything, trout, bass, panfish, musky. Literally everything. Just stick to the brand names and avoid the cheaper ones because they often have shitty construction and can foul your line up easily.

>>2870713
A sedan? That inflatable gonna take up your whole trunk space and few accessories and cart will take the rest of your car. You aren't going to have space for any fishing gear lol

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>>2870853
Thanks for the input, anon :) I’ve been having luck with whatever this spinner is (lakescore from the depths!) Can’t wait to see how a fresh, quality one does.

>>2870854
Nah, I have a lot of trunk space. And my fishing gear doesn't take up much space. I do river trips a couple times a year, 3 day camping trips down the river. I can fit a 55qt wheeled hard cooler, all of my camping gear, fishing gear, two folding chairs, two large folding tables, an intex excursion 4 and it's accessories, battery and trolling motor and still have room in my car. That boat doesn't take up much more room than the excursion. The additional space for the inflatable floor is minimal because it folds flat.

>>2870853
>>2870855
Inline spinners are great. But don't forget to add a swivel, or your line will become twisted regardless of brand.

>>2870859
>>2870853
caught my biggest pike ever on a size 3 mepps
mepps was still french at the time

>>2870859
Always using swivel clips because I hate excess knot tying! They’re the one thing I have in every size.

>>2870851
Damn son, I live like a mile from Josephine. I've never fished it because I'd really like to eat what I catch and the DNR says everything in it is full of PFAS in a really bad way. I'd hit it up just for the action if the getting is that good. The DQ across the street is a nice bonus. Thanks for the tip!

Are fluo leaders a scam? I'm going to start fishing for zander (big euro walleye) and have seen it recommended as steel leaders will scare them off. I'm already using fluo line and don't see the point unless I'm fishing for some big nasty pike.

>>2870910
Flouro is the best leader material unless you're targeting toothy fish like blues or sharks.
>using flouro line
You are wasting money. Go mono to flouro leader or mono backing to braid to flouro.

>>2870783
Not horrible today. Dicked around in the morning. Got out in the afternoon. I caught a good-sized brown, and he lived on the stringer for ~2 hours until we got out and killed him. Went swimming in a giant pool on the river. That was fun for me, since I never swim. Major rains this evening, so we went to another spot to fish in less heavy rain and caught a few stocker rainbows in foul smelling mud water. The end.

I don't know why I bother fishing the state ran public fishing areas in Georgia. Shit is usually pressured beyond belief and are ass for bank plebs like me.

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>>2870840
Tell me about Thorne Bros. and the other fly shops in the Twin Cities.

>>2870989
that remind me i need to find a fillet knife, preferably one i can fold and stick inside my fishing bad

>>2870990
Thorne Bros isn’t in the cities, it’s in Ham Lake which is about 30 mins north of metro. Great selection and the staff are helpful. They build custom rods upstairs too.

>>2870990
I'm not a fly guy so I can't speak to the quality of the selection, but I do know they've got an enormous collection of supplies. They're all upstairs in the back. Their conventional tackle selection is pretty dang good. Very well curated and pretty good prices. They pride themselves on muskie gear, but they'll have whatever you're looking for in stock. If Fleet Farm weren't so convenient (and well stocked), it would be my go-to tackle shop.

>>2870991
https://a.co/d/0b0Ci6zx

>>2871030
>cannot be shipped to your location
but this does look like what i need, thanks, i'll see if i can get that elsewhere

>>2871034
How much do you want to spend? For a knife you keep on the boat/in the field a $15 Mora Knife is just fine. I do a lot of cooking though so I spent $130+ on a Shun deboning and filet knife and it slides through fish like a lightsaber through your mom.

>>2871035
well ideally i'd like to keep it in my fishing bag i travel around with, so nothing too fancy that might be fragile

>>2871036
Mora Knife for basic shit like bait cutting and a generic Rapala filet knife would be fine then, don't spend too much on something that is likely to get beaten up and exposed to the elements too much. I think I bought like 15 Moras about 10 years ago and I still have a few left. You can sharpen the shit out of them and beat them to hell and they're cheap enough that you can toss them if they get fucked up.
For the filet knife I used a Rapala one for years, it didn't do well holding an edge but it was like $20 and as long as I sharpened it after each outing it was fine, but I tried to keep my catches relatively whole (minus the guts) until I got to my kitchen where I keep my good stuff.

>>2871035
NTA...Victorinox 6in curved boning knife is what I use at home. I have a mora companion and a buck bantam I take out hunting and fishing. I don't filet fish, so couldn't tell you how those would be for that, but they've got just about everything else covered.

>>2870166
Been 5 years and my favorite lake is still dead. Fucking blue algae killed everything but a few bottom feeding carp, none of the other fish species have returned. Sucks.

>>2871038
Victorinox is a great company and is consistently ranked highly and recommended on /ck/ for being wanting a great yet relatively affordable knife brand. Their 8inch Chefs knife was my powerhouse through college.
>>2871039
>carp
Carp are great to catch though. There is a lake near me surrounded by mulberry trees and I use an 8wt fly rod to cast mulberry flies under them, what a good fight.

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>>2871034
i get another. that knife is a fairly cheap amazon chinesium knife but with sharpening it stays pretty goddamn deadly. only comment is it dont bend much.

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im moving for work soon. if you had the option to move to either Freeport or Homestead, FL which would you choose (based on the fishing alone) and why?

I've only been to Naples and San Marco but I would choose whichever city has the fewest HOAs, as they usually regulate fishing access very heavily and can be righteous cunts about people fishing there. Florida is known for being a shithole when it comes to HOAs

> in boat
> see a dead fish floating
> check it out
> once in a lifetime size for the species
bruh

>>2870833
Hand out knives, lighters, and high proof spirits, they’ll get moved again.

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>>2870840
I’ve officially been down there… many, many bites. Whomever kept biting were happy to take my salmon eggs.

Didn’t manage to catch anything, and I did decide to play in the water after just a few casts.

You’re gonna wanna pay at the main entrance, then drive over to the Mound parking. Walk the Mound trail and you’ll see breaks all along the right side. It’s steep and slippery, so be careful. You’ll end up right by the water.

River safety rules apply if you decide to take a dip.
I did, and laid in the current for a long while.
My husband didn’t appreciate me scaring off all the fish with my clambering, but all-gender toplessness is legal in WI so he didn’t stay sour for too long.

Picrel is from the official “Falls trail”.

>>2870833
LMFAO what shithole do you live in?

>>2871097
maine

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boilies did the work again, caught a cute 3.5kg carp, used the antiseptic spray now after taking the photo keke

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>>2871105
weather was also perfect

>>2871105
You think the carps are chill with some Neosporin?

>>2871108
don’t think so anon

I don't know anything about carp fishing in america, but when I was out in my kayak today I saw two that must have been the size of a small dog in about 6 inches of water. I'm talking 30+ inches. how do I catch them? what species is it? they don't even really spook until you're right on top of them. then they kind of just casually swim away.

Beginner here, I need some help catching trout. The local government has stocked a few lakes and ponds in my area and I decided to catch my first fish there. Woke up super early and was at the lake about half an hour before sunrise. Spent almost 4 hours there with no bites at all. Around sunrise there were a number of fish surfacing so I am sure that there are still fish in there.

My setup was a pickerel rig with a bobber to float and I tried bread, pink&green powerbait and mealworms. When nothing seemed to work I switched to a yellow/black diamond pattern spoon. I was shore fishing only, no access to a boat. Weather was scattered clouds at first that turned completely overcast.

What am I doing wrong? This was not the first time out there but this time instead of going to a gorgeous mountain lake that has a gazillion restrictions and few fish I decided to fish a stocked lake so I would finally have success but I still returned empty handed

>>2871111
Stockers tend to stick in a big clump for a while before dispersing, because they’re used to living in unnatural fish densities. They also bite pretty aggressively, usually.

So if the stocking was recent, and you don’t get a bite in a minute, move.

>>2871111
Whereabouts are we talking? What are the water conditions? Warm or cold water? Clear, cloudy, muddy? How big and deep is the lake? Can you see fish where you're fishing? Have you caught anything there? What type of trout and are there wild native trout there as well? I've had much more success catching stocked rainbow trout in creeks and rivers than in lakes or ponds. Trout are a cold water species, so if you're in warm water, they will be deep and often out of reach from the shore most times of the year.

Did you get zero bites on all of those baits? I would think you'd at least interest some bluegill or other sunfish with those. If no, you might just be in the wrong spot.

>>2871112
Stocking was 2 and 6 weeks ago respectively and I did notice a bunch of surface action relatively close to me

>>2871113
This is in Alberta, Canada. The source is mostly snowmelt from the mountains so the water is very cold. Zero bites overall. Not even a nibble at the bait, I pulled it out the way it was cast in. First time at this specific lake, its a reservoir that is about 10km/6mi long and 1/4mi wide. Water was murky since we had a lot of rain recently that has brought sediment in.

Fishing rivers is an option, but bait fishing is not allowed in streams and even most ponds here. The lake in question has been stocked with rainbow and cutthroat trout

>>2871110
In most places in the US, that’s going to be a common carp. There are a few places where there will be a native like a big mouth buffalo that you could also be seeing.

Most of these fish feed on the bottom and by touch and smell, depending on the season, there may be a food source on the surface that they take by site, which would be the case with the Mulberry flies discussed earlier in the thread. Bait like corn, boilies, or dough, and worms are all popular choices. A Carolina rig can work if your bait does a good job disguising the hook, hair rigs put your bait on a hookless thread that the fish eats guilelessly and then when the bait is swallowed, the hook is dragged into the mouth so you can set it.

>>2871115
I'd ditch the bait and fish inline spinners. Black and yellow panther martins work well here in norcal. Rooster tails are a close second. If you want to stick with a hook and bobber setup, check out trout magnets. I've never personally caught a trout with them, but I've talked to several people that swear by them.

Another option is picking up fly fishing. It can be intimidating to switch from a spinning setup to a fly setup. But it is THE way to catch trout around here. I went from occasionally catching a rainbow once or twice a year to just about every time I hit the creek.

>>2871110
Bow fishing is a great method for harvesting carp like that. Check your local regulations first, but carp are usually on the list for targetable species, where bow fishing is permitted.

I've only caught a couple carp while fishing myself. And those were incidental while fishing for catfish. Both were caught on worms sitting on the bottom.

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>>2870746
>Eu carp fishing and hair rigs and all is autistic as hell,
why tho, hair rigs are neat and easy to assemble, best way to carp fish here

>>2871123
we don't have buffalo here. I'm unsure on whether it was a common or a grass carp. obviously grass carp are more rare, but it kind of looked more like a grass carp when I look at pictures on google. to be fair, I'm only seeing it from a mostly top down view though. do they eat bugs? don't you have to worry about them swallowing the hook if you let them take slack line? I see online that it says to use light line since they spook easily, but how powerful are they when they fight?
>>2871128
I don't kill anything I won't eat. I know they're technically invasive, but don't big reservoirs introduce them sometimes to combat invasive plants? that's probably what happened here.

Does anyone have any experience with C&F fly boxes? I've decided to buy some, but I don't know what size will be good for a chest pack and backpack user.

>>2871138
>but don't big reservoirs introduce them sometimes to combat invasive plants? that's probably what happened here.
They're probably grass carp then and you probably shouldn't harvest them

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Whats some good cheap tenkara kits i should consider? Wanna get into the fishing hobby but only tenkara since it packs light and im mainly a hiker, so i just wanna fish here and there as i trek along

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>>2871110
>carp

>>2871154
if you have not fished before and are mainly a hiker you should really consider something else to start with unless you are a weeb and just dead set on learning with jap hardware in which case admit that first so you don't end up delusionally buying overpriced garbage marketed specifically to people like you who are a diamond dozen

>>2871164
Not a weeb, just want something that packs ultralight and is quick to setup, which is exactly what tenkara offers according to my search. Initially i looked up what the best cheapo telescopic rod for those like me that dont want a bunch of bulky PITA equipment to hassle with which led me to discover tenkara as an option.
I been on a couple creek fishing journeys with friends in the past and seeing their rods in their backpack getting stuck in branches and bringing all these supplies and whatnot had put me off from getting into fishing.
I specifically asked for cheap btw so idk why you concluded that ill be buying overpriced shit. Did you even read my post?
the phrase is "dime a dozen" btw, not diamond dozen

>>2871177
NTA.... Cheap tenkara setup? You can get pretty cheap tenkara stuff on Amazon and temu. I have a Goture 9ft that I started my fly fishing journey on 3 years ago. It's caught lots of trout in small creeks and still holds up. It's currently unavailable, but you can find similar tenkara rods in the $20-30 range. I bought a dragontail level line kit for it, https://a.co/d/0396hHPx
It comes with 3.5 level line, tippet, a couple line holders and a couple flies. You'll want to get more flies. I like elk hair caddis, small stimulators, Griffiths gnats and parachute adams for dry flies. And I like hare's ears, pheasant tails and perdigons for nymphs. Then you just need something to put everything in and maybe a net. All in, you can probably set yourself up for under $100...less if your even more frugal. You can get much better stuff. But this will get you started and give you an idea of it's strengths and weaknesses and allow you to decide if you want to invest in a more expensive setup.

>>2871177
a 5'6" 2-piece ultralight spinning rod packs down. or you can go even further and get 3 or 4-piece 6'6" rods.

>>2871154
You can get a decent rod on Aliexpress for $0.99, don’t listen to the idiot saying it implies you need to ‘learn Japanese hardware’ first. It’s just a telescoping rod with a knot on the end where you attach the line

I really like mine and dont even own a rod and reel setup currently. Love the no fuss setup and tear down and how little space it occupies overall. Can fit in a fanny pack

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First time poster here. I've decided to get into fishing this summer. I Read the paste bin but I've been having SUCH a hard time with my fucking bait caster. I've watched every YouTube video on them I can find but it's literally a 50+ percent failure rate on every cast. I get bird bested SO FUCKING BAD I spend 20+ minutes trying to undo it. I've wasted so much line I'm I honestly don't want to use it ever again.

>>2871227
Brother it's not rocket science. Did you tighten the spool tension so it moves very little? Did you set the brakes such that the lure drops 1ft per second? Are you thumbing the spool such that the friction of your finger prevents backlash?

>>2871230
YES!!!!!!!!!!!

>>2870166
>Slightly higher altitude, huge reservoir that is fed from mountain runoff
>Slightly stained water, can see down 1 to 3 feet and then darkens out, gets really deep fast
>Very rocky and goes deep quickly, "some" structure like partially build beaver dams, and some weedy cover
>Regularly heavily stocked with rainbow trout, walleye, wiper (hybrid striped bass), largemouth bass, smallmouth bass, and channel catfish
>Main fishing areas are heavily fished throughout the year, like 5 to 10 people a day there at each cove (or more), especially summer is super pressured with campers non-stop
>Run an ultralight 2lb fluro with gold/brass spinners, and a Comet Mepps Minnow
>Usually fish around 5am to 8am, sometimes rarely around 1830pm to 2030pm (it gets buggy and REALLY dark out as there are no lights)
>Trying to target panfish (crappie, blue gills, pumpkinseeds) and trout (rainbows)
>Fish (usually wiper or bass) will chase the spinners and then disengage right at the shoreline, seen 2 to 3 chase after my spinners before and not go for it
Idk if the main areas are just so damned over-fished or that I need to change to far more remote locations. But I also don't wanna have to drive 10 to 15 mins to the more remote parts of the reservoir, then hike 15 to 30 minutes away either just to fish for 20 mins to an hour. And I mainly do catch and release anyways.
Any ideas what I'm messing up with here?

>>2871227
should've just got a normal ass spinning combo

>>2871154
Don't listen to the tards in this thread. Tenkara is a fun, effective technique, and it cannot be accomplished with a tiny spinning rod or a fly rod.
>>2871164
>diamond dozen
It's "a dime a dozen."
I recommended a setup last thread. I'll copy and paste.
>Get the Dragontail Mizuchi and 3.0 Shimotsuke level line. You will want to have some 5X and/or 6X tippet and tippet rings. I like NiteIze gear ties as my line holder better than anything else. Get the regular thick (11 mm) foam line holder for off-rod storage, good to have multiple lines for different situations and backups. Kebari are nice, but I fish nymphs and streamers much more often.
Do not cheap out and get the shadowfire or whatever it's called. It sucks. I got a premium Dragontail rod and like the Mizuchi better for my needs, which are mostly small creeks. A pocket rod is going to be less versatile. Reply if you have more questions.

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>>2871232
i would swap to an entirely different kind of lure that you think people in your area wouldn't be using. you could also take a couple days when you might have some more free time to go to the more remote areas, trying the same techniques you are now. if you have success there, then you'll know it's just smart fish in the popular areas, otherwise you ought to consider changing it up.

>>2871239
>otherwise you ought to consider changing it up.
Do you mean gear or location or both? I was thinking of just returning to the good ole' bobber and worm, but I've been trying to mess with being more active as a fisher.

>>2871237
>and it cannot be accomplished with a fly rod.
Anything you can do with a tenkara rod you can do with a normal fly rod, better and with greater reach. Come on, don't lie. Tenkara = handicap fly fishing.

>>2871227
it's easy in hindsight. the number one thing you have to do is not overhead cast when learning. only side casts. also, do NOT cast hard when learning, only gently and smoothly. no jerky motions when you wind up and cast. those jerks cause the spool to blow up. secondly, do NOT set your spool tension tightly like most "experts" tell you when learning. the reason for this is that it caues you to have to cast harder, which is bad. it will also cause the spool to not freely start up like it's designed too, causing problems. instead, set it to where you can feel the spool have a tiny bit of side to side play, and then tighten it until that barely goes away. that would be considered "tight" but not too tight where it impedes proper spool inertia. all of your tuning when learning should otherwise be done with brakes, not spool tension. start high, and work your way down. when you finally are able to consistently cast with brakes somewhere near the midrange of their setting options, then you're finally ready to back the spool tension off to where you just barely have side to side play. that's where you then will leave it forever unless you need more practice. also, watch out casting near tall grass or anything else you could hit your lure on in the cast. that will give you the worst kind of blowup. that's usually how even seasoned baitcater users occasionally fuck up. just keep in your mind that sucessful baitcasting is ALL about smoothness of the cast. no herky jerky motions. overhead casting should not be done until you are good, because the release point is way different than with a spinning rod since you have to factor in the spool startup inertia. most beginners will release far too late and it will go straight into the ground 10ft in front of you. lastly, the thumb will get better over time. it doesn't feel natural at first.. just remember that too much thumb is better than too little.

>>2871248
also, best way to diagnose what you're doing wrong once you have the settings dialed in correctly is that if your spool is fluffing in the first half of the cast before your lure even touches the water, you are casting too hard. because the spool is spinning faster than the lure is flying. if it blows up once it hits the water, that's because you aren't thumbing the spool to slow down the spool at the end of the cast. you want to stop the spool right before or right as the lure hits the water. even a seasoned caster will fluff up a spool despite having the reel set properly if they cast too hard. baitcasters are all about smooth spool start up and slow down. you have to visualize the spool speed in comparison to the lure speed. lastly, start with heavier lures. like 1/2 oz minimum. most baitasters won't cast even 3/8oz more than a few yards unless it's a shallower/lighter spool.

>>2871232
if it's hot, especially the water temp. you need to slow down your presentation and realize that the bigger fish are deeper right now. only the young fish are zooming around the shallows because that's where they are safer from predators. try a drop shot rig or soemthing. or yo-yo a rat-l-trap off the bottom if the place doesn't have snags.

>>2871232
Get a float tube or a paddle board and get off shore. It sounds like the banks are beaten to death there.

>>2871244
Tenkara is far superior for nymphing in my water than traditional Western fly fishing with a fly line. I never use an indicator. It makes a huge splash. I'd rather blindly and loosely fish a nymph than use an indicator. Do you use a 10+ ft euro rod with thin line? No? Well, tenkara is more effective than your methods in my water. Tenkara allows the angler to keep a tight line, and it minimizes drag. Another huge perk for me is that tenkara is the best cold weather technique. I fish in freezing temps a lot. I don't want to deal with frozen guides, and I definitely don't want to mess with wet hands.
So what if tenkara is handicap fly fishing? George Daniel puts clients with disabilities on tenkara, and they have a great time. You can fish fairly well in a brief amount of time with tenkara. It's not like they are using forward facing sonar.
I regularly engage in all types of fishing, except trolling and salt. The last time I fished tenkara was a few days ago, after an afternoon of dryfly, nymph, and streamer fishing on my 4 WT. It rained, so we left, but when it cleared up, we fished again. I didn't want to break out my fly rod, so I did tenkara in what became a huge downpour. Tenkara is simply convenient, and when you're hiking, convenience and simplicity matter a lot more than conforming to some retarded notions of what fly fishing is supposed to be.

>>2871250
I've thought about a drop shot probably with just a worm or jig. But there are quite a few snags with the rocks, I've lost 3 to 4 lures recently.
>>2871254
It's a big body of water, choppy/windy, with lots of rocky coves and lots of speed boaters. And yeah, the banks are beaten half to death with the sheer amount of summer foot traffic.

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>>2871263
Tenkara is so fun it's crazy. I'm not really a big time fisherman (though I did some fly fishing growing up) but got one for hiking originally and it's so discrete and easy/fast to setup I feel compelled to fish wherever there's water. I've got the bug lately and I know if I had to setup/teardown a full rod and reel every time I wouldn't bother with the impromptu wandering and fishing, I'd never bother fishing tiny spots otherwise. It's got me really itching to hit up some alpine lakes with an inflatable dingy (which is awesome for a depressed bedrotter like myself).


So, like you, I don't really care if it's not as fully featured as a traditional setup, that's a complete non-factor for me and I think the wrong way to frame it. On that note, I recently grabbed one of picrel to experiment with. Only $35, so no big deal if it sucks. There's another brand, RYER gear, that makes an interline telescopic fly rod, but being interline adds frictions and stiffness.. and it's $230. Then there's the Eagle Claw Pack-it for around $50, but I felt it'd overlap with my tenkara utility too much as it only comes in 3wt. This one (Rift Apache II) is rated as 5/6wt but reviews say it's stiff.

>>2871276
Meant to ask, why can tenkara produce high quality telescoping rods but wester flys can't? do the guides for the line mess up the physics or something, or is it something else?

>>2871279
it's the average fly fisherman being pretentious, it's like golf
now to be fair the average quality of a telescopic rod today is bellow what we used to have back then for some reason

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>>2871279
I also like that it can fit in my silverware drawer, if I ever so desire.

>the average quality of a telescopic rod today is bellow what we used to have
It sure seems like it.. I'd kill for a 'high quality' telescopic fly rod. I like that they're 'grab and go' (can be stored fully rigged up) and take up minimal space. I have no idea why there aren't more attempts being made at this, even 6/8pc 'travel rods' seem to be getting phased out.

Pic rel is the ryer gear thing, but there's suspiciously little videos of it being cast or fished with. Someone online made something similar (identical, maybe) by modding a tankara rod to add a reel and pass line through the interior, but they described it as the worst of both worlds between Tenkara and western.

You'd think there'd be at least one cottage company doing high quality telescoping rods

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I put a friend of mine on his first ever catfish, a perfect eater size too. He had also never fished wax worms on a tiny hook before, so stocking up on 3-5 inch bluegill the night before was some of the fastest bluegill fishing hed ever seen.

>>2871282
i still have some of these old carbon fiber telescopic pike rods, these are extra nice, i've been eyeing a few on ebay too
but there arn't much of them on the smaller side, most of them are above 30g cast weight, so maybe it's too stiff for a flyline by default, should be doable with fibreglass tho

>>2871248
nta but I'm 100% guilty of jerky, brute force casting lol
but at the same time I feel like beginners (only started last year personally) usually have a decent laundry list of things to think about before even thinking about their cast technique aside from accuracy

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>>2871291
Its fun fishing with newboes, the first spot we went to catch bait we caught 3 bluegill in like 10 minutes and he was shocked when i said "this spot sucks we need to move" then was absolutely blown away when we started catching perfect bait size bluegills almost every cast and withon 30 seconds of the bait hitting the water.

>>2871294
Yeah those light ones would wind up being ~13 weight fly rods with a 500 or 600 grain line if they want 30 to 40 grams of weight

>>2871305
How will this rod do? >>2871276

>>2871263
>Tenkara is far superior for nymphing
No, no it's not. A euro setup on a trad fly rod is again, superior to tenkara. Tight line nymphing was invented on trad fly rods. More copium from the tenka chud. Dude, you're gayer than Skid. Tenkara =handicap fly fishing.

>>2871346
please see >>2871323

>>2871348
I'm not familiar with the brand, so couldn't tell you anything about the quality or action. The one thing I see that I don't really like is, it's only 7'10". From reading the reviews, it sounds like the rod is quite stiff and may not load well with a 5w fly line. If you're tight line nymphing, that shouldn't be a problem, but you may need to line up to 6w or 7w fly line if you're planning to cast normally with it. I see a couple reviews of the rod breaking on first or second use, which usually means poor quality control(it either breaks early or it's good). I'm not sure how their customer support is or what their repair/replacement policy is. So....there are some red flags, but it's also only $35. If you get one, let us know how it works.

>>2871346
You have poor reading comprehension. I euro nymph. It's the most effective form of fly fishing. In terms if effectiveness: Euro > tenkara > trad western for nymphing, especially in smaller water. I'm not a weeb. I'm not obsessed with Japanese culture. The best tool is the one you use. If a tenkara rod is going to get someone to buy a license and get out on the water, that's a good thing. Don't get assmad if some amateur with a backpack catches more fish than you.
>>2871348
That rod sucks. The only telescopic rod you should ever buy is a tenkara rod. Both telescopic spin and fly rods are shit. Either get a 4 piece fly rod or tenkara rod.

>>2871353
No, you have a memory problem and can't even remember what you said a post before...let me help you
>Tenkara is a fun, effective technique, and it cannot be accomplished witha fly rod.

Tenkara is tight line fly fishing ,which can be accomplished with any trad fly rod. Stop changing the argument and moving he goal posts. Tenkara=handicap fly fishing

>>2871360
meant for >>2871356

>>2871353
I will let you know, pretty sure it's just a drop shipper style brand that themselves just rebrands stuff from aliexpress/china. I hadn't heard of them either. I had a $10 Amazon gift card since Christmas, so it brought it down to $25. If I don't like it, I'll just give to my roommate (he's never fished). I'm hoping it's 'good enough' for some lake fishing where I might wish I had a normal rod over tenkara. for the price, reviews seem good enough (it works, casting isn't intolerable).

>>2871356
I already have a tenkara. it made me want to experiment with a compact fly rod setup that I could fit in a bag and leave rigged up, for times when I might want that extra distance say at a lake. apparently that doesn't really exist at a decent level of quality, though I'm not entirely sure why..? not entirely sure why tenkara rods can be high quality and telescopic, by fly rods can't.. different physics?


>>2871360
why are you so angry

If you want to drag flies around with a telescopic weeb stick just say you want to drag flies around with a japanese weeb stick, admit your limitations, and go fishing. Stop looking to random strangers on a peruvian guinnea pig grooming forum, introspect for 17 seconds, and decide wheather or not you care about shooting or stripping fly line ever.
>>2871323
I dont actually know but id imagine poorly.

>>2871360
No, you're creating false quotes. That makes you exceedingly dishonest. The tightline technique cannot be accomplished with a normal fly rod, unless it is particularly long and you're not using normal fly line. With normal fly line, you'll get a lot of sag. With tenkara and euro, you're not using normal fly line, if you're even using fly line. It seems to me that you both lack experience with tightline nymphing and you have an irrational hatred for tenkara. You also completely ignored the part of my argument based on cold weather. You must only be a fair weather fisherwoman.

>>2871376
Not the anon, and not dissecting the text wall, euro stuff is all about the leader, ive done fine euro nymphing with a long leader and my general purpose fly line and a 9 foot 4 weight. You dont really even need a fly line at all. In fact, if you're looking for raw performance, a spinning rod is the best way to euro nymph. Im still going to throw 12inch streamers on my 11 weight fly rod for muskies, and im still going to throw my 6 weight switch rod to swing flies for lake run rainbows, and if i want to use a cane pole, ill just use my regular cane pole, cause it euro nymphs fine.

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>>2871376
>No, you're creating false quotes.
>>2871237
I took out "tiny spinning rod" because it was irrelevant to the point. It's edited but still holds your intended point, which is false. You're the one being dishonest

>>2871376
And I fished tight line long before I knew it was now called euro. And I did it on a 9' 4w. You just use a longer leader so the weighted head doesn't come more than a couple inches out of the tip of the rod. Tight line nymphing has been popular in Northern California for a very long time, at least the 1930s, long long before "euro style" just removed the weight forward line and switched to an unweighted line. Maybe it's new to you, but it's not new to fly fishing.

>>2871365
>why are you so angry
Because Tenkara Chud keeps overselling and lying about tenkara. It's good for small water and it packs down well. But to say you can do things on it that you can't on a trad fly rod is just dishonest. And it annoys me when he lies like this and when confronted about it, changes the argument, moves the goal post or adds other arguments that weren't being argued. If he just said "it's fun and it packs down well, but has it's limits" I'd have no argument.

>>2871380
I see. I do think it's easier or more natural to do certain things with tenkara than it is on a traditional though, more ergonomic within the limited set of things it excels at. ie, I don't think traditional is universally superior at all aspects either.

BREAKING: Kelly Galloup gives his seal of approval to tenkara

why are you guys arguing so much about weeb hipster fly fishing?

>>2871437
Because fly fishing fags are insufferable and at the best of times eat each other alive.

Aye dawg aye. I’m a newbie retard who has been posting lately. Made a mistake of putting 14lb mono on my shitty cheap ugly stick 2500 reel. Should I chop it off and replace it with something smaller? Should I just put braided on it? People say you get wind knots but if it’s an experience thing I’d rather just jump in head first and get acclimated. Only asking because it feels like my 14 lb mono has been causing me some issues. But maybe those issues are from my low XP in the hobby.

Second question: some anons earlier in the thread said using the snap/latch/clasp things are a meme and I should learn knots. Can someone tell me when it’s appropriate to use one? Like i think I NEED a swivel if I’m using a spoon, do I put a latch between the swivel and spoon? Spin it like a key ring?

>>2871443
Pull the spool off of the reel and throw it in hot water for 30 minutes. Not boiling but not just warm. Then try it again and report back. It should relax the line and make it easier to cast.

>>2871443
i don't think the mono is the issue
i have bigger lines on size 2500 reels just fine
snap and swivels arn't a meme, use them if you like it
but you still need knots to attach them anyway, learn the knots

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>>2871443
>Like i think I NEED a swivel if I’m using a spoon
Spoons, inline spinners or any lure where the whole lure spins will twist up your line, causing your line to twist onto itself. To prevent this, you can add a swivel. Tie your line to the swivel and then tie a section of line(a leader) to the other side and then to your lure. I don't use snap swivels myself and only use swivels with lures that spin. I can tie a knot in a couple seconds, so I don't use snap swivels to bypass the need to tie a knot. Swivels and snap swivels have their place, but using them just to avoid knot tying shouldn't be the primary reason you use them. An inline swivel as I described shouldn't interfere with lure action, but snap swivels can.

>>2871437
I love fly fishing but 65% of the people who do it are elitist retards

>>2871443
your setup is fine. put a snap swivel at the end of your line and go fish.

I'm still mad how I lost a suspending jerkbait underneath two rocks

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I got my monthly Smitty's box in the mail today! Beginner pattern is a Yellow Sally. I've tied these before on my own, so not a repeat box. I like the pattern and fish it often when I'm fishing drys. Materials included: size 12 stimulator hooks, 8/0 uni thread in yellow, uni floss in red, a patch of elk hair, yellow antron dubbing and grey dry fly hackle. I'll begin tying these shortly.

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>>2871551
The intermediate pattern is called a Two Timin' Ant. This one is new to me, but I'm familiar with all of the materials and techniques. Materials included: size 14 dry fly hooks, 8/0 uni thread in tan, another patch of elk hair, gold crystal flash, brown and burnt orang, dry fly dubbing, brown dry fly hackle and some rubber legs. It looks like a lot of stuff for the size hook. I think the challenge here will be spacing. I'll start on these later this evening.

>>2871443
if you lure spins like crazy after retrieving it, you should probably use a swivel. 100% of the time i use a swivel with spoons and chinesium spinners. use the line already on the reel, upgrade to copolymer when it runs low. id recommend an 8lb line if youre using the medium ugly stik rod, yozuri hybrid or izorline xxx.

>>2871481
pretty much. dont overthink your gear until you actually know what you want to fish for.

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>>2871551
6 more yellow sallies to add to my box. Nice and easy pattern, and effective too. Hopefully I'll have an opportunity to fish one of these this weekend.

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>>2871552
These actually look pretty buggy. I'll give one of them a try too, if I make it out this weekend.

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Beware fishus

>>2871442
Facts

Do I really need an expensive saltwater reel for inshore fishing, or can I just get away by using a normal reel and cleaning it very carefully?

>>2871582
A nasci is like 80$

>>2871582
the only difference between a "saltwater" reel and a normal reel is some level of "sealing" which often times may only even be water repelling features and not even actual seals. so even when shopping saltwater rated reels you really have to make sure there are actual seals. having said that, unless you are dunking it, or getting a ton of spray from being waist deep in the surf, you may not even benefit from those seals. you still have to maintain those reels too because they will get salt buildup all over them, so unless you're kayak fishing or wade fishing where you could drop it in the water or take big splashes, just get a freshwater reel and maintain it. most of your saltwater you're worrying about with inshore fishing is gonna be the light mist coming off of the line on the spool when you reel.

>>2870166
I think I will try to get into fishing this summer. My grand uncle will be in the south west of France at the same time as me and is an avid surf caster. He can't do it anymore due to a fucked up shoulder, so I think I will ask him to do everything for him (carrying, casting etc) if he teaches me. He only fishes at night for some reason though.

>>2871627
That sounds like a wonderful idea.

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>>2871437
worst part is none of them post fish or discuss actually fishing. Just gay gear pics if anything or shit nondescript opinions that don’t matter at all for actually catching fish.

The threads suck when anyone who actually has a fish or a fishing story is only every 20 posts because flyfags want to post garbage. Got this walleye on a silver Williams warbler using shit old line I leave in the sun all summer on a shit old rod with a shit old reel.

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>>2871632
I've got plenty of tenkara pics. That's a memorable one because I was fishing on sketchy icebergs over deep water.

>>2871039
>none of the other fish species have returned
Time for some bucket biology

>>2871637
That's retarded and won't help. The reason there's an algae problem is because there is tons of runoff creating an environment ideal for the algae to grow. Even simply getting rid of the algae is not particularly effective. Drastic environmental change is needed.

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pb largemouth on a green pumpkin wacky
it was like high 80s and this guy yanked my shit
it was wild just winching him in w/ retard strength braid after playing hard mode with ultralight for a few weeks prior

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>>2871633
thank you for post fish you have given flyfags amnesty for another like ten no fish posts. glad you got to fish somewhere sketchy and not fuckin die the ice is hardcore shit

got pike 2day

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>>2871660
I did tenkara again today. We've had severe weather, and the river is bank to bank. My friend and I decided to fish a pond. I outfished her with my space age cane pole when she was using spinning gear. It was all dinks, and Shakespeare in the park practice was going on. I don't often hear people screaming and rhyming when I'm fishing. Good times. I'll share a flood picture from way upstream today, since I didn't take any fish pics.

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>>2871574
I started out with the ant. I got several hits before landing two.

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>>2871568
Decided to switch to the yellow sally, and things really picked up! I caught these four.

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>>2871668
Then I let my brother in law use my rod while I tied a new nymph on for him and he caught three more!

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>>2871669
He also caught this one on a hare's ear.

>>2871670
That's awesome. Thanks for sharing.

>>2871668
>those little teefs in the top left picture
I want to hold him close and protect his smile <3

>>2871576
kek'd

>>2871437
what else is there to do

>>2871675
Simply pass away :3

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>>2871632
That's sick. Some of my favourite catches have been on a $50 kmart beach fishing rod I've had for over a decade. It has heavy as fuck line that's all gnarled and shit, the bottom of the fibreglass rod handle got ran over by the car accidentally and crushed, so i sawed it off and then duct taped the bastard. The reel is slightly rusted and isn't the smoothest, but eats up machine oil and keeps slaving away.

>>2871684
Is this a scup? They are delicious but so bony

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>friend just got a crappy old boat
>mfw it needs a bit of work before we can take it out on the water
FREE ME FROM THE FUCKING SHORE ALREADY

>>2871687
> rely on friend to fix up a shitboat to go out fishing
It's so over

>>2871685
They look pretty similar, but nah. It's a Yellowfin Bream caught off the beach, they get this really shiny silver colour when they're in clean saltwater and eating mainly prawns and things like that. Tastes incredible and not too many bones, so pretty easy to fillet or just cook whole in the oven/some coals. You can catch them in estuaries but they get pretty muddy and start eating shit down there so they get darker colouration and taste somewhat not as nice

>>2871688
Well, I am going to help him with it. I think the motor just needs a tune up and a new prop (probably a new skeg as well). There are some chips in the gel coat and the plywood floor is rotten in a few places. Doesn't seem like anything we can't fix.

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>>2870676
>>2870622

Got it last friday, finally got it up and running yesterday. It's actually a 1999 seadoo speedster 5 seater with twin rotax engines. One engine was flooded with oil, common problem, easy fix. Did that and rebuilt the carbs, fired right up and sounded healthy. We going fishing this weekend lads

>>2871696
That's a horrible fishing boat.

>>2871699
It’ll be fine. Fish and Ski boats aren’t as good as dedicated fishing boats, but they’re better than not having a fishing boat, AND they can be more fun if you want to do boat shit that ain’t fishing.

The one thing I’d say they’re genuinely bad at is boat camping like you do at Voyaguers National Park.

> 100F
> extreme drought
Yeah, I'm still going fishing this weekend.

>>2871248
Listen to this guy, this anon baitcasts

>>2871276
this came today. I feel like it's gonna suck, the circle things that the line goes through can move around too easy, putting it out of alignment. I was disappointed there wasn't a built in mechanism to keep them aligned, or at least incentivize alignment. but if it's not miserable to cast and fish with, it's gonna be an epic setup for alpine lake fishing. for $35 it can just be a beater.

if it's tolerable but I dont see myself using it over tenkara I'm giving it to my roommate

>>2871722
Are the eyes not attached to the rod? Are you firmly pulling with a slight twist you lock the nested sections? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

Instead of a rod, what if you had a slingshot to launch bait/lures?

>>2871728
It's a thing. They make a glove that you can mount a reel to and then use a slingshot to either launch a lure out to or a dart into fish. You can find them on amazon

>>2871728
Surf fishermen do this but with drones to get past the breakers.

>>2871731
ooo a drone is a good idea. with a fish-vision camera. I'll just give it my bobber and it'll fly around, using AI, to find the best spot. actually, if I just give the drone line and a spool I shouldn't even have to leave the house

>>2871657
Nice fish

>>2871743
>not living at least 5 hours inland
Found the coastlet

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>girl im taking fishing is too "le tired" to get up at 5
shoulda known she werent built for this lifestyle.....

>>2871749
>taking a girl fishing
your first mistake

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Can someone please tell me if this is a white crappie or black crappie? It’s stripes aren't very defined, so I cannot tell and it’s killing me

gotta buy a new carp rod this week, this week we shall be fishing

>>2871766
White crappie. If it has 5-6 dorsal spines it's a white crappie. If it has 7-8 dorsal spines it's a black crappie

>>2871687
You can get some great fishing on the shore, the issue is you gotta be really active and know what to look for in the best spots and then working the entire shoreline like a mad man. Some waders would help too.

Where should I keep the spoiled shrimp that i use for catfishing? Can I keep it in the freezer?

>>2871796
It really pays to Craigslist a shitty used freezer to keep in the garage. Spoiled bait has volatiles that will infiltrate your food. Don’t freeze rotting crap in your food freezer.

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I have spawned a really retarded idea today and need help debunking. I recently bought a circular inner tube for floating the river near me to scout spots with my weeb rod, since the river tubes can be purchased for $4.50 from Walmart and are perfect for slinging over my shoulder while walking around etc.

My retarded idea is that I could bring the river tube to a lake, with something like pic rel, to get further out, provided there's a strong prevailing wind. Would it work?

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Anyone have any idea of how to tie multiple spoons on one line other than alabama rig?

>>2871822
For casting I mean.

>>2871822
>>2871823
install gentoo

>>2871832
I already did that though. Is it really impossible to do while keeping all the hooks on them?

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Following up on my own post here: >>2871154
So i ordered this 9ft aventik IM12 nano for 53 bucks to start learning how to fish. Got some separate kit that comes with 4x tippet, #3.5 level line, 2 line keepers, tippet rings, line nipper, a couple flies and a line holder that attaches to the rod.
Think the only thing i need now is like a fly wallet or some small case to keep all this shit in, anyone got a recommendation for that?

>>2871877
I see these used a lot
https://yonahpacks.com/

Personally I just copied most of the stuff from this video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUZvn6YGC8&ra=m

>>2871882
Im still gonna be carrying my backpack so i dont need something that big. Was more so interested in something thats like the size of a creditcard wallet or slightly bigger. Not for the rod, just for the flies, tippet, line holders, small etc items. And im looking to spend $20 maximum for such a thing

>>2871883
Oh ok. And yeah I didn't realize those packs were like $65. I don't have a bag yet either, just using ziplocs right now. Maybe that'd work you? Use an old sponge to hook flies into or something.

>tippet rings
hadn't seen these before but it's way better than what I've been doing. thanks. can you link me to that kit maybe so I don't have to scroll through a see of garbage?

>>2871883
>>2871909
>sponge and ziplock
maybe an altoids tin would be better or some hard plastic thing like that

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>>2871909
I first checked out the website before looking at the video. But in the video he has a smaller pack and thats actually a pretty good size and it can be attached to my backpacks strap which would make it very convenient. Still dont wanna pay what theyre asking so im looking at cheaper alternatives on the zon. Probably will get something like pic related.
Heres the link to the kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XTP1N5M

>>2871883

I keep my line and line holders in one of these https://a.co/d/04eu7XJd

Starting out, one of these is good for keeping your flies in https://a.co/d/03C0793b But eventually you're probably going to want something bigger something like this https://a.co/d/06TEnKLC

And to keep it all together, I put them into one of these https://a.co/d/0czQHKUR

And that goes into my backpack along with my rod and a collapsible net. Very easy to transport and very light.

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>>2871916
Yeah it seems like a nice size for when not carrying a backpack already, they have some pics on the site of it being used like a sling or small pack.

Since I use tenkara cards, I just spool my line (two lines per card) and flies with this, and at minimum I only need a pair of fishing pliers in addition to that. If I was backpacking and wanting to bring a fuller kit, I'd just toss some flies on foam/sponge material and whatever else into some ziplocs too probably, gonna be much lighter than anything else and does the same job.

I'm also gonna get pic rel as a packraft for $4.50, lol. Gonna be good for floating my local waters to find good fishing spots. Easy to carry when the water gets too shallow etc.

>>2871920
https://a.co/d/0czQHKUR
NTA but great find on this pack, thanks. How heavy is the net? Surprisingly, I've had trouble finding anything that beats the plain ol' medium net from themeasurenet.com.

>>2871925
I also have a medium measurenet, it's my main fly fishing net. But it doesn't fit well in my backpack, so I bought one of these https://a.co/d/09LF3CLr for when I'm going small creek fishing and bringing my tenkara rod. You can see it in these..
>>2871667
>>2871668
>>2871669
>>2871670

>>2871920
I ended up getting this pouch instead, seems to be a bit smaller than most of whats on amazon. https://amazon.com/dp/B0DXBRSBFT
For flies i think ill do what this anon suggested with the altoid tin >>2871912 and adhere some sponge inside it to hold and keep the flies dry

>>2871877
9 ft is too short for the vast majority of places. I dish in the Driftless with 12 and 13 ft rods, and I bet you probably aren't fishing in tighter places than me. You're going to be left wanting more, or you'll realize the error of your ways once you get a normal length rod.

>>2871930
I've been having trouble finding a lightweight net. Looked for something that could attach to a trekking pole as a handle but couldn't find anything except for some random dude[*] DIYing. Looks like there used to a company making a 2.5oz titanium nets but they're no longer in business[**].
*: https://wildsnow.com/823/trekking-ski-pole-fishnet-mods/
**: http://tetontenkara.blogspot.com/2013/03/traillite-designs-ti-net-plus-review.html

Nice looking fish btw. What rods do you own out of curiosity? I'm itching to get something to compare my Hane against.

>>2871936
>What rods do you own out of curiosity?
Tenkara - Goture 9ft carbon fiber, only paid $20 for it. I haven't found a need to buy a more expensive one. I only use it on small creeks that have heavy cover that I need to hike into. Otherwise I'm using one of my fly rods.
Fly rods - Echo lift 8' 4w, Echo traverse 9' 6w and a Reddington field kit 10' 3w euro rod.

>>2871935
Shit really? I mean ive caught some pretty hefty catfish with a just a line tied to some bamboo a couple times and that bamboo stick was maybe 7 ft long max. Im not really knowledgeable about fishing and stuff, like i dont even know what "dishing in the driftless" really means lol
It says itll be delivered by june 24th so maybe i have some time to cancel it and get a rod a couple feet longer. Should i really? Even 9ft seems kinda long to me

Also is a net really necessary? Seems everyone i see that does tenkara has one, but i dont see like regular traditional fishers using them all the time. I still havent even looked for a net to buy bcuz i dont wanna deal with carrying that shit nor do i want to use it

>>2871941
NTA but this guy gives it a positive review here (ignore the clickbait title, his videos always have those but the content is a lot more chill):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D8ZZxl6rCw

I wouldn't cancel the order unless you were thinking it was a bigger rod. I'm sure you'll have lots of fun with it and it's super lightweight at 1.5oz. But if you ever fish a longer rod you might see why people tend to prefer a longer rod with shorter line than a shorter rod with longer line.

>>2871942
It makes landing the fish easier on the fish if you're fishing catch and release. The alternative is handling it with your hands or dragging it onto the shore, which isn't very healthy for the fish. Hands are ok if you remember to wet them first, but can make removing the fly harder, fish don't like to stay still. And dragging it onto the shore shouldn't be done unless you're keeping the fish. In the net, you can remove the hook and then dip the fish, in the net, back in the water, so it can breathe, while you're getting your phone/camera out to take pictures.

>>2871943
That last sentence makes sense. Shit i guess ill soonventually get a longer rod as well, that way i not only have two to mess around with but in case im with a friend and they wanna fish with me ill have one for them too. You suggest an 11 or 12 footer? Ill probably get a different brand/model too thats a bit cheaper
>>2871944
Just doing catch and release, guess ill go netless for as long as i can until i think i need one. Besides it just being another thing to have to bring, i dont wanna have a dripping net pissing all over me or my backpack which is why im trying to avoid them

>>2871935
What rods do you have?

>>2871938
Oh ok, only one? I'm reluctant to get into full fly fishing, but got this recently: >>2871276 mostly as a cheap way to compare the limits of both approaches more directly (it was only ~$35 and I had a spare reel from the last time I tried to get into fishing).

Do you think those bigger tenkara rods for lakes or bigger fish are dumb? Something like this looks fun:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oVgqzFXlB6k

That rod is made for lakes and bigger water. I'd like to try getting some steelhead this year.

>>2871942
I don't have one yet but if you land a bigger fish it's gonna be a PITA for both of you to get that hook out. For little guys that you can just yoink out of the water and suspend by the line safely and land in your hand, I've been fine without.

>>2871949
>Do you think those bigger tenkara rods for lakes or bigger fish are dumb?
At that point, you're probably going to have an easier time casting and landing with a rod with a reel. That looks like it's a long way out and unless his rod is very very long, he's going to have a hard time landing that fish unless he hand lines it in, which is probably why it cuts off so quickly. I personally prefer the ability to adjust the length of line to the situation. And I'd definitely prefer to have a reel, with a good drag, when I catch larger fish.

>Oh ok, only one?
Yes, I began my fly fishing journey on that goture. It has served me very well on small creeks and caught me tons of trout. But there are spots I can't reach with it and it's practically useless on the lakes around here or the main body of the Sacramento river. I was initially looking into buying a longer tenkara rod, but Skid talked me into buying the Echo lift instead. And I have no regrets taking that advice.

>>2871948
>i guess ill soonventually get a longer rod as well, that way i not only have two to mess around with but in case im with a friend and they wanna fish with me ill have one for them too
I'm in the same boat, I got the Hane initially because it had a small collapsed size (~15in) which was important to me at the time. But also, shorter packed size means more telescopic sections you have to extend and retract for setting up and tearing down, so if you move locations a lot that's something to consider I guess. I still think they're cool and worthwhile though because it's so easy to just take one with you wherever you go, so I don't think you'll regret that purchase and it was cheap.

I can't give advice regarding the rods since I'm still trying to figure that out for myself. My specific use cases / situations I want to cover so far are mainly
>1) steelhead and larger lakes (probably super long rod, stiffer for larger fish)
>2) hike-in alpine lakes (probably longer rod but still packable, not as stiff)
>3) 'everyday carry' / EDC rod (something small and packable enough that there's no reason not to take it)
>4) something for blue lining (probably shorter, very sensitive)

There's definitely room to collapse some of those with minimal compromise. I hope to end up with 2-3 rods I'm super happy with. I'd also like to try a zoom rod to see how I feel about those. I think my strategy for figuring this out is gonna be buying cheap ones on Amazon that have the length/stiffness etc I want to see what I like and what I don't and where I can compromise. Or just buy the nicer name brand ones used / secondhand so I can least recoup the expense by reselling. There's some tenkara marketplace pages on FB.

>>2871951
>unless his rod is very very long
The keiryu rods are like 17'-21', so pretty long when combined with the additional line it allows. I would like to see more videos of people actually wrangling the fish into the net, since that's the part I'm most curious and skeptical about. Easy enough to hook it, but without a reel it's hard for me to imagine landing a big one is as elegant.

But this rod is only ~$30 and 17.7':
https://www.amazon.com/Telescopic-Pole-Telescopic-Saltwater-Freshwater-17-7FT-5-4m/dp/B0D8ZWVV4V/

I do definitely want something that can land a good sized (say ~5-6lb) steelhead though. How is fly fishing the lakes and larger rivers though? I've never really fly fished flat water before but I imagine that's when you'd really wanna be casting as far as possible.

>>2871959
>>How is fly fishing the lakes and larger rivers though?
You have a lot of options on both with a fly rod. In rivers, you're looking for seams pockets, riffles etc. Somewhere the fish will be holding. Similar to smaller creeks and streams. You can dead drift dry's and nymphs, you can swing a large variety flies, you can strip streamers. You have a lot of options. In still water like lakes or ponds, you provide the action instead of the current. Stripping streamers and poppers, suspending under a float and hand twist to slowly twitch it in, you can also hand twist dry flies like grasshoppers to make it look like it's struggling to swim, you can cast dry flies and then pick it up and recast, to simulate an insect landing, taking off and landing again, and that's just a short list off the top of my head.

>>2871959
Also... 17'-21' that's going to really limit you on where you'll actually have room to cast. You're going to need some wide open spaces or I think trees or anything above or beside you will quickly become your nemesis.