So I happened upon an ad for an "outdoors bidet", which screws onto your water bottle and lets you wash your ass when you take a shit.The woman said that it frees you from carrying your used toilet paper.Herein comes the question, who the fuck carries his used TP?You know you can just leave it in the wilderness and it will decompose, right?
Imagine arguing for being spiritually indian, if not actually indian.Pick up after yourself.
I love Pepper.
>>2871584>Herein comes the question, who the fuck carries his used TP?It’s one of those IYKYK things. If you’re in an area where you can’t bury your toilet paper (or shouldn’t), you already know why you have to pack it out. If you’re in an don’t know why, then you’ve never been to a place like that.
>>2871606But the trail of microplastics you leave behind from the soles of your shoes grinding down into the soil is fine?
It should be buried with the poop. Even if someone is too lazy to bury it, TP makes the whole pile more visible and less likely to be stepped in by others. Use TP and for an even better clean, something akin to baby wipes afterwards. You people squirting water on your ass and playing with your poopy buttholes with your bare hands are nuts. The people who do this smell like shit.
>You know you can just leave it in the wilderness and it will decompose, right?I walked the first 20 miles of the Appalachian Trail two months after the bubble when no one was there. The amount of toilet paper just left around was truly disgusting.You have to understand that retards go outdoors too. It's hard to help these people but a portable bidet is a good start. I wouldn't carry TP at all if I was hiking and had a portable bidet.
>>2871584There are places where they don't want you to bury your TP and pack it out instead. Personally I think this is a stupid rule because the vast majority of people simply won't do it. Of course packing out everything, all the time, is the best thing for the environment. But you have to be realistic about what people will actually do. They should just instruct people to bury it, it is better than them just leaving it in the open.
>>2871624They do pack out their tp, the average backpacker in a national park is affluent, educated and environmentally conscious. Most people have even accepted using wag bags and packing out their poop too at places like whitney or the desert national parks.
>>2871643Have you been up Whitney? People just leave those wag bags sitting around everywhere.
>>2871584I've thought about this ever since that pepper vid. I'm always going to bury my tp if able. However there are some places like high in the mountains where feces and tp won't degrade properly, where you have to pack out everything.
>>2871614Yes, compared to shit covered toilet paper that won’t biodegrade for several years it’s a non-issue.
>>2871647toilet paper is designed to dissolve in water. one heavy rain and its gone.
>>2871647> Yes, compared to shit covered toilet paper that won’t biodegrade for several years it’s a non-issue.Baby wipes are not toilet paper, use toilet paper. Bury both the paper and the feces.
>>2871709Yeah, I'm just gonna carry around a shovel for no other reason than to bury literal shit. Put more bins around for the dog walkers and use compostable plastic.
>>2871584I watched this short, I typed up something like "of course you don't carry tp in the wild, because you have my tongue m'lady" but then I decided not to post it because youtube is already pissed at me for my shitposts in comment sections
>>2871741Yes, you are.
>>2871584Just dig a hole, shit in it and also throw the TP in there. Bury it. Done. "outdoor bidet" is retarded.But also: this bitch is nasty as fuck. You are still supposed to use some tp after bidet usage. You cant just leave the shit water on your ass and legs.
Just find a water source in your guide and shit in that then splash water on your hole. It's ok people filter and treat water so they won't get sick
>>2871746i see cute girl, monkey brain go "i am the human TP"
>>2871604Same. She’s corny but god damn she’s hot
>>2871802you just know she's a great fuck, imagine going down on her after a day pf backpacking I could come from the scent alone
Catholing and putting your paper in the hole and peeing on the paper to aid its decomposition is fine for normies but I am elite and use tactical discipline all the time /out/.I make up batches of dump bags with paper bags, plastic sheet, TP, disposible glove and a couple freezer bags. I pack that out and dispose of it discreetely in the trash. I dont leave my waste in the bush, often I will pee in a bottle and empty that some where else other than my campsite, often a long term one. That cuts down on the stink which can lead tracker dogs to you. Taking your waste out leaves no trace for cunts trying to know if your in an area. Low profile is the only way. This is for safety and doctrine of privacy. Also if something happens in your Area of Operations, you dont have your DNA all over the place. You cant always control what happens, like someone else gets merc'd near where you camp, then suddenly you are the suspect. Never give up control. Pack your waste out.
>>2871827the "backpacking" wouldnt stop at night
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>>2871584her advice is to use a rock btw. Which is terrible advice for any newcomer. You need to be very careful what kind of rock you use as you can seriously fuck up your asshole.
It's surprising how people don't realize that the real issue is that wild animals will dig it up, carry it around, and spread disease. That's why even if you do bury it you're supposed to dig down several feet and then repack it in.
>>2871584I never understood why a bidet is so superior to wiping. So you've washed your ass with water. Assuming you actually got all the shit off instead of just making it extra wet shit, what do you do now? You still need to dry your ass, right?
we used dock leaves to wipe when i was a kid
>>2871584I have one and it's really not enough pressure to not need toilet paper.
>>2871985There's no shit left behind with the water pressure of a toilet. And yes, you just have to dry yourself after, whatever way you prefer.
I wonder if my underwear I left somewhere in the woods months ago has even started to biodegrade yet, I had to toilet paper and had to use my own underwear to wipe my ass, and use all the water left to wash my booty afterwards.
>>2871985You can use a towel if you're willing, I just use a little TP to dryIt cuts down on TP usage quite a bit
Eat 12 chicken wings with sauce on them and really dig in there and get it all over your face. If your asshole has hair on it, grow a beard first. Then, spray yourself in the mouth with a water bottle. Did it clean your face as well as wiping?
>>2871584If you ever use a bidet you won't go back.
>>2871584Jesus christ.Dig a small hole, shit into it. Put the TP into it. Bury it. If available, put a rock on top to make digging it up a bit harder for forest frens.That's it. Spraying water on your butthole doesn't thoroughly clean it. Anyone who has used a bidet knows there is still shit there and it takes a combination of TP and water to get it all clean. You can even bury wet wipes too if you want to get even more clean. Never go camping near me if you touch your butthole or carry your own shit around.
Willing to bet that John Muir simply shat wherever he was when he needed to poop.
>>2871584The river is natures bidet.
>>2871652Non-Americans don’t know about toilet papering a house and how the TP doesn’t magically dissolve after it rains.
>>2872323Did dozens of other people follow right behind him a few days later?
>>2872116This desu. One bad shit can take all your sheets. Bidet is faster and cleaner of you have the water, 1-2 sheets to dry. Also important if you aren't getting a shower for days.
>>2872030kek
>>2871645>>2871643The amount of shit I produce is astronomical. Sometimes I pop out massive logs enough to build a log cabin. Or it comes out as literal shit storm I can coat an entire house with it. I have had times when I dig a cat hole I will fill it up to the brim. For me it's not possible for me to carry out my poop. If I had to do that, I would need a team of sherpas.
If I have another garbage bag I put it there and throw the bag in the closest trash can. And if I can't carry it I just bury it because at least in that way the next person don't have to see it and I think it decomposes faster too. Just common sense.
>>2871584TldrLeave no trace. Your shit doesn't decompose in extreme environments e.g. the arctic circle.
Literally just dig a cat hole and bury your tp in it, why is this so fucking hard.And if you’re in Joshua tree or in alpine or something bring a wag bag. It’s gay and disgusting but it’s very unlikely most people are going to spend more than 3-5 in the backcountry or somewhere that you need it. Or you know, you could just fucking wait till you’re below tree line again and shit there.
>>2871802these bitches all look like they have an OF
>>2872030it's OK anon, it probably washed down the river where it ended up strangling dolphins and sea turtles
>>2871802>tattoos
I like bidets to mitigate toilet paper usage as some have said, but also because for whatever reason even if I dig up into my ass with the toilet paper I always have to wipe again later and you can give yourself a micro enema from spraying a bidet into your ass and it'll flush out literally anything you have stored up there and then you can spray the rest off and clean it up. Once in Shasta I was taking a bath in the river and I needed to shit out nowhere so bad I literally didn't even hesitate to just drop my ass into the water and shit into it full blast and then turned my ass to let the river wash all of the shit off, cleanest my ass had ever been.
>>2873851>these internet whores look just like internet whores!they are slight variations of the same product my dysgenic friend.
>>2871584>who the fuck carries his used TP?This is going to blow your mind, but some areas won't allow you to dump your garbage on the ground.
>>2871646>where feces and tp won't degrade properlyYou are supposed to put it in a biodegradable composting bag, and then twirl it around a few times before launching it off the mountain at mach speed. This will ensure that it reaches the ground level, where it will degrade properly if it does not burn up while airborne from the immense amount of speed behind the throw.
>>2871584IMO: If you effectively make your shit and TP disappear I couldn't care less. Just follow the usual rules and put it all in a foxhole. If you do it right no one will ever know.But: This is not always possible. In those cases bring a plastic bag / doggy bags and clean up.There is a new phenomenon which is new, really upsetting and disgusting: Theres shit and TP everywhere. Even very close to civilization and public toilets. No attempt at foxholing either.I have suspicions what recent developments this relatively new ohenomenon is linked to and I blame politicians.
you can wipe with dewy leaves can't imagine a bigger mark of a citynigger than carrying a roll around
>>2871985>dry your asswhat kinda homosexual thinks like that just pull up your pants and go
>>2871929You can't have a proper Field Op without practicing SHITSEC
>>2871752>dig a holeretard you can't dig a hole in talus. not shit taken is in the woods, desert, or plains.jeet tier behavior is sullying the meltwater and leaving giardia behind
>>2871584>So I happened upon an ad for an "outdoors bidet">You know you can just leave it in the wilderness and it will decompose, right?Most toilet paper is treated with a bunch of crap so that it won't decompose. The beginning of the Colorado Trail on the Durango side is a great example of this to anyone who has been there, just piles upon piles of rock covered shit and toilet paper.Your real best friend is Lambs Ear. I didn't even have to carry Toilet Paper with me, I just picked up some Lambs Ear in the morning to wipe with, sometimes stocked up for the next day but can't grab too much in advance or is shrivels.If all else fails just use the largest leaf you can find. However, Lambs Ear is by far the Best Toilet Paper ever, it honestly feels better than Toilet Paper.
>>2876944Are you a fucking retard?Plan out your day so you Shit on a schedule, that way you're always where you need to be to take a proper shit.I swear intermittent Shitters and Trowel Tards are some of the most incompetent people on the planet. If you need a personal shitting Shovel or find yourself trapped around rocks, you're an idiot and should probably be institutionalized.
>nuuuu you don't get it wood pulp is unnatural and never decomposes you stupid chudophile!
>>2877167You plan your day by predicting when your gonna shit? honestly that's next level, i am not even laughing, its admirable.
>>2871584>You know you can just leave it in the wilderness and it will decompose, right?You do know this is not actually true in every biome, right?
>>2877172>wood pulpDo you have the slightest clue what goes into creating fluffy white bumwad?
>>2877314Do you guys seriously not have a shitting schedule? I thought that was routine management 101.If you eat on a schedule, and you eat generally the same amount every day relative to exertion, you typically shit at the same time everyday (Provided your Gut is healthy, etc).For most people its managed by tuning in to your circadian rhythm. The body naturally will try and have a bowel movement around 9am or so.Every day on the trail I'd either have dug out a hole the previous night near my camp, or grabbed some fresh Lambs Ear around 7am if I started hiking early.Tuning into the Circadian Rhythm is also a great way to maximize your mileage in a day, and minimize exhaustion. I would plan to stop and take 30 minute power naps at the appropriate time (Also Weather adjustments), and easily cover 20 Miles a day on the lower end, and over 30 on my high end.I actually figured out how to do over 40 mile days, but I was over equipped for it and I was hiking with a partner.If you really want to get the most out of your /Out/ings, then I'd recommend experimenting with some ways to better manage your daily routine.
>>2877388>Provided your Gut is healthyOh and I forgot to mention, hiking high mileage in a day coupled with some good probiotics, you'll shit solid 2 feet logs and feel fucking fantastic for the rest of your days hike.I'd average a 2.5 mile per hour pace before my morning shit, but after my morning shit I'd be 2lbs lighter and average upwards of a 3 mile per hour pace, sometimes even felt like jogging.Though I haven't full maximized my strategy, all the virtual/mental tests I've done, with an Ultra-Light set-up I could cover between 40-50 miles in a day, which on a trail like the Appalachian Trail would practically get you to the next resupply point.You could buy food, stock up heavy and eat big meals at night, and then be light enough the next day without the food weight to cover say a 30 mile pace while digesting, then another 40+ day after that once the food has been digested and you've passed all the waste out of your system.Calorie Efficiency, recourse management, energy maximization, rest management. These are all things you have to consider out on the trail.>P.S.Also recommend barefoot or open toed shows to avoid blisters and develop stronger feet.
>>2877388You shit every day?
>>2877414If I'm eating a consistent high calorie diet, typically something upwards of 4000 calories on the trail where I am burning a lot, then yes I will shit consistently about once a day around the same time.With a more sedentary lifestyle I might shit twice a day.To manage calorie efficiency on the trail, I've also created something I call the "Calorie Bomb", which is as follower:>Bucket of preferred Nuts (Typically a large container of Cashews for me), mix in a container of Peanut Butter, Mix in a bag of granola, mix in Coconut Oil, Mix in a container of Raw Local Honey relative to where I'm hiking (Honey is super calorie dense), and optional mix in some raisins or something if you feel inclined (I think they're gross mixed in with things).All together you will get a container full of about 20,000 calories if you do it right, all full of good Macros, and this can be used as purely supplemental to the rest of your food because of how easy it is to carry. For the container of nuts I empty it about half ways before filling it with everything else.This mix typically lasts me about a week, and it also makes your shits well lubricated and flow easily for the least amount of problems on the trail (The last thing you want is a rough poop).
