>americans have to pay to hunt and fish for sustenance >have to wait for permission to hunt on public land>have arbitrary limits and restrictions placed on hunting >has a literal hunting/fishing police force to tell you what you can and can't do>can't hunt wild animals in their own backyard or neighborhood (even with bows)Holy fuck. Are you guys OK over there? Even 3rd worlders live better than this.
>>2871799Cope
Are people actually following those rules though? I don't hunt but the rules seem absurdly convoluted and I assume most just hunt whatever they can find and try not to get caught.
>>2871798In every single third world shithole I've been to (Greece, Brazil, Turkey, China, Morocco, Egypt South Africa and India) the nature is filled to the brim with plastic and "people" can't even comprehend why it's bad to destroy nature. The chain of thought is basically : nature is something I can scam (litter and steal from) without repercussions so why not ? It's sad cause a lot of countries in the list have potential for being beautiful but they are just landfills
>>2871819>greeceLol
>>2871819Neither Greece nor Turkey are third world. You don't understand the definition, not in the colloquial (but incorrect sense) nor in the true sense. You're just straight up retarded.
>>2871798if you actually traveled out more then you'll truly appreciate the wildlife of USA and Canadaonly places that are comparable is the Nordic nations because it's desolate and they care about nature just like we do
>>2871798Hold on, brownoids think you should just be able to kill any wild animals you want to at anytime? Ending colonization was a mistake.
>>2871853Yes, and they're poaching in the US now. Game populations are being decimated. The new environmentalist meta is not limiting CO2 emissions, it's a US population of 50 million, 95% White by 2100.
>>2871809there is very little poaching in the US except for injuns and deep in the woods homesteaders. this is mainly because sportsman understand that the seasons are designed to keep the game populations healthy. the laws followed what people were already doing, its not arbitary.
>>2871856>sportsman understandSpics don't.
>>2871840>>2871841lmao cope you fuckers as I said I've been there, it's poor af, dirty, roads are fucked, buildings unfinished everywhere. I literally had 10yo kids beg for me to give the coin form the cart in front of supermarkets in Greece multiple times. I spent 6 months there in a camping car, I've literally been everywhere in this country's mainland. Literal 3rd world country.
>>2871858Uh but they, like, philosophized 2000 years ago so...
>>2871798>3rd worlders live better than thiswrong board>>>/b/
>>2871798>>can't hunt wild animals in their own backyard or neighborhood (even with bows)this is not true in rural areas. Half of the elk harvested in Montana each year (~14,000) is done so on private land...and my fishing licence costs $5...and the ALL the money from hunting licenses goes to conservation/habitat restoration...
>>2871798yeah it totally sucks
>>2871798>Americans have to pay to huntA license in my state is $25. A fishing license is $5. Fishing is better for bulk harvesting if it really is a sustenance issue.>Have to wait for permission to hunt on public landNot where I live. The map is public. Some places are open year round for everything. Some places are leased private for turkey season specifically for example.>Arbitrary limits and restrictionsThose aren’t arbitrary (except in a few blue states). It’s usually decided by biologists who take population surveys.>Has a literal hunting/fishing police forceYes. This is good. The downside is having a bunch of cops with absolutely nothing to do so they become de facto safety patrollers issuing tickets for life jackets and shit. The upside is faggots that poach going to jail. I’ll make that trade every fucking time.>Cant hunt in your backyardReally depends on what your house is zoned for. I’ve shot deer off my back porch before.>3rd worlders live better than thisMy wife is from the 3rd world. They fish with dynamite and blow up the whole reef. I’ll take a hard pass.>>2871809>Are people following the rulesMostly. Most “poaching” I’ve seen would be shit like>Stepping on a fish tail if it’s just below the length requirement>Punching extra tagsMom buys a tag and dad shoots the deer for her type of shit>Rifle during muzzleloader season>Shooting animals on the wrong side of the fence line>All kinds of baiting shenanigansMost people don’t care so much about those. It’s taking more than your limit, spotlighting, hunting out of season, sitting someone else’s stand, etc. that are going to get the warden after you.
>>2871798It's to cut down on overhunting or fishing and to preserve the ecosystems but also since stop homeless or poor people from getting food where they shouldnt.
>>2871798>>americans have to pay to hunt and fish for sustenance Even shitholes like Brazil have hunting and fishing licenses and many states offer deeply discounted or free licenses for people who are either poor or in the middle of nowhere. Resident tags tend to also be incredibly cheap.>>have to wait for permission to hunt on public landDepends on what you're hunting and where.>>have arbitrary limits and restrictions placed on hunting And when those restrictions didn't exist several species were driven extinct, extirpated locally, or driven to the verge of extinction. I don't get to hunt buffalo or passenger pigeons or go see colonies of Carolina Parakeets in the wild because my forebears assumed that god wouldn't let animals go extinct and weren't overly concerned about it in any case.>>has a literal hunting/fishing police force to tell you what you can and can't doEven sub-saharan Africa has forest jannies.>>can't hunt wild animals in their own backyard or neighborhood (even with bows)Depends entirely on context. I know several people whose preferred method of hunting was to just sit on their porch with a rifle and wait for an elk to cross their front yard.>>2871809>Are people actually following those rules though?For the most part, yeah.>I don't hunt but the rules seem absurdly convolutedThey're really not, though it varies from place to place. For game animals the rules are basic restrictions on time and place and method of take plus a handful of blanket rules and definitions. For fish it's mostly just how many you can keep, restrictions on length and whether you can use bait or you have to use artificial lures. These rules vary wildly from state to state.>and I assume most just hunt whatever they can find and try not to get caught.Lolno. Poaching like you're thinking of is almost the entirely the province of indians and shitheel rednecks and most hunters take pride in following fair-chase rules for taking big game.
>>2871853Yup, the concept of conservation is completely alien to their 70 IQ minds.
>>2871798>You have to pay $26 for a fishing license to help conservation efforts so future generations can enjoy it too>The West has fallen
America /out/ has creatures. You go to Europe and you don't see anything larger than a squirrel
>>2871798There are limitations on hunting and fishing because if there weren't, then subhumans like you would kill fucking everything and leave nothing for anyone else (probably while dumping trash into the water).
>>2871853>>2872706The earth has far far more materials than you have been led to believe. Do not believe the (((lies))) about conservation. Under and Overpopulation are myths.
>>2872743The relevant research is public, you can read and evaluate it yourself.
>>2871798The problem with having natural resources is that they must be managed, or no one will be able to enjoy them. Sorry/ Not Sorry about our lack of Utopian ideals; you may now leave to go build your own. As you've noticed, we're not averse to occasional sharing but will not be dictated to or taken advantage of, and we have the means to enforce that.
>>2871853Yes, they are absolutely fucking up the salmon population here in Alaska.
I live in the south east with several hunters and fishermen, they all make the same complaints as OP and want to treat the wilds like the way third worlders treat their homes. Its awful, seeing them willingly dumping toxic shit into the rivers, leaving kills everywhere if they arent with regulation, making buddy buddy with cops to let them get away with shit. They deny any enviromental science you bring up to them to explain why this shit is bad as liberal propaganda to kill off the southern population and replace us all with northerners. >>2872272>>2871917these two have the best breakdown, but those who refuse to hear it will never listen.
>>2873615Thats the downside of all the global warming and covid hysteria and nonstop propaganda lies coming from the fake science industry everything they say is a lie. Now anyone with a brain questions are these fishing regulations legit or just a money grab or way to make it so native Americans get to harvest 100% of the fish and wipe them out do they will get a $ billion grant to restore them.
>>2873672>everything they say is a lie.imagine being this far gone
>>2873676that grift is over man, they are just stepping it down slowly to save face.
>>2873682>2+2=4 is a lie!!!
>>2873736>state department money has been turned off>still shilling
>>2873743>chicken tendies have run out>still alone and coping
>>2873744>has no argument, keeps screaming "no U Dum!!1111"lol.
>>2873745>too stupid to understand>doubles down on retardation as copelol
>>2873751>too stupid to understand>doubles down on retardation as copelol
