The trouble with courgettes editionpastebin:https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87New USDA zone map has been released: https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.pngSearch terms:Agrarian, Agriculture, Agrology, Agronomy, Aquaculture, Aquaponics, Berkeley Method Hot Composting, Cold Frames, Companion Planting, Composting, Container Gardening, Core Gardening Method, Cultivation, Deep Water Culture (DWC), Dry Farming, Espalier, Farmer's Market, Forest Gardening, Forestry, Fungiculture, Geoponics, Greenhouses, Homesteading, Horticulture, Hot Boxes, Hügelkultur, Humanure, Hydroponic Dutch Bucket System, Hydroponics, Keyhole Garden, Korean Natural Farming, Kratky Method, Landscaping, Lasagna Gardening, Ley Farming, Market Garden, Mulching, No-till Method, Ollas Irrigation, Orchard, Permaculture, Polyculture, Polytunnels, Propagation, Rain Gutter Garden, Raised Beds, Ranch, Rooftop Gardening, Ruth Stout Garden, Sharecropping, City Slicker Composting, Shifting Cultivation, Soil-bag Gardening, Square Foot Gardening, Stale Seed Bed, Sugar Bush, Truck Farming, Vermiculture, Vertical Gardening, Window Frame Garden, Windrow Composting, Alpaca, Snail, Toad, Trumpeter, Turkey, Worm, biochar, vermicompostingLast thread: >>2868554(Un)official /HGM/ discord: https://discord.gg/TvN3Ed4Geh
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>>2875147My small pumpkin and gourd patch behind the garage has exploded.It'll be a good harvest this fall.
>>2875175>My small pumpkin and gourd patch behind the garage has exploded.That can't be good for the plants...
>>2875176Lol.
Muh garlic harvest. Another week or so and they should be cured. Music variety here
>>2875179Ukrainian Red on the left and Chesnok Red on the right
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>>2875179>>2875180Nice.
>>2875180I have a shitload of garlic my yard.Was around a tree that was lost in a stoem.so now its just kind of in the middle.of lawn. Going to move it all this winter.I dried some one year but I just let it do its thing and if I need fresh garlic I just go dig some up.Pics of maypops (wild passion fruit).I actually have some.protected from deer this year and might make some lemonade with them
>>2875179I was told that you should not cut the stems until they are cured because the bulbs will suck all the nutrients in before dying.
>>2875193Nta but that would explain why they always lace the stems together in big "mats". I thought it was just to make hanging while curing easier (i guess it pulls double duty).
>>2875193idk this was my first time growing garlic and I just followed the instructions from this vendorhttps://keeneorganics.com/curing-garlic/Once they're cured, I'll sort by size for seed for replanting and hang the rest by piercing the neck with some wire>>2875191Very nice. This is the first year mine have made fruit
>>2875191>(wild passion fruit).Specifically they're purple passionflower, Passiflora incarnata. My area also has a lot lutea, the little colorless ones. After some mishaps with drought, deer browse, and fritillary caterpillars defoliating them, mine finally didn't die this year and are starting to climb their trellis. I've been seeing the wild ones flowering on the roadside which has been nice. Hopefully I can get some flowers of my own next year.
>>2875200Nice.I dont think theres any purple here.But the "maypop" type are everywhere.Pic related only feeds on maypop as larvae although the butterfly will feed off any flower.Saw one the other day.
>>2875202Yeah, last year I hesitated to kill one and the next day my seedlings had lost all of their leaves...
>>2875203Ive never seen damage from them. But mine are all wild and grow like crazy.I dug up a few that were going to get mowed and gave them to my mother a couple months ago and theyre like 4 feet tall and blooming already.
>>2875203Was it feeding on the purple?
>>2875191Im not ESL BTW, just fat finger the keypad and dont proofread before I post.
>>2875204They were only a few months old and still establishing their roots, so there wasn't much to eat. To be clear, I am talking about maypops, which are distinct for having purple flowers. We're growing the same thing.
Mother fucking oriental fruit moths dicked up all my peaches. >>2874388>>2874385Sucks ass. I’ll be lucky to make a single pie.Here’s a pic from better times. Got three bushels off it in 2023…. I have 2 dozen peaches this year.
>>2875181those are very pretty pumpkin leaves.
>>2875208I thought I had pics of my flowers but couldnt find any.Went to get new pic and they close at night (?).Never checked.I want to say that mine are the purple/white and not fully purple flowers but really wanted to verify if im going on the record.My shit is going insane this yearI cant even count the plants.50?100?No idea.
My green ayote squash keeps aborting its female flowers what the fuck do I do? I really need them to produce. I've just about broke my neck getting this far. I manually fertilized flowers even. I've also noticed over time the female flowers it's producing are getting bigger and are more likely to bloom.
>>2874773I made the mistake of not reading the Miracle Gro Cactus/Citrus/Avocado soil bag. It was for in-ground use not for potting. My avocado trees struggled. I repotted after amending the soil with pumice, perlite, and horticultural sand. It's been 2 weeks since. One is stalled, but no more leaf droop. The other one has new shoots and leaves. I may need to amend the soil for the stalled one with coco coir or put it in a grow bag to allow more air to reach the roots.
>>2875236Look up 5-1-1 mix, that's what I use for all my potted citrus. Its easy to make yourself.
Ty for new thread. Amazing plants guys! Amazing harvests! I am running a bit late in the season but better late than neverI have labeled 12 of my Plants in groups of 4. They are in Stage 2 of 3 before their final replanting in larger containers.α,β,γ,Δδ - Black Cherry TomatosΕε,Ζζ,Ηη,Θ - TomatilosΙι,Κκ,λ,Μμ - Radishes
>>28752492 of 3 the Tomatillos (never grown these before) any advice is welcome
>>2875249>>28752503 of 3 here are some Radishes. I have grown radishes before.I know they don't tend to do great in small containers like this, but I was thinking about replanting them. But I'm also very open, too advice. Thank you.
>>2875249>>2875250>>2875251You should thin those seedlings down to one per pot>>2875217
>>2875254Found an open one today.
>>2875281Also saw a maypop butterfly flying around.He wouldnt cooperate and hokd still for a pic but got one of him mid-flight.
just tried the stuff on my gloves after harvesting and trimming my plantsits workingg im feeling waves over my bodyyy maybe i took too much
>>2875181I love my chad squash
>>2875332Aaaw yeah hell yeah. Noice one m8. Winter Squash or summer? I got summer squash growin' next to my gourds. Those fuckers got outta control last year.
>>2875254Ok I will try to thin them tommarow thanksMy first harvest of baby tomatoes yay
Hello againHas anyone grown Petunias before or had any success with glow in the dark plants or fungi/anything living like thr Firefly Petunia?According to Google, despite earlier sayings that the plants were sterile, they can be hybridized and produce seeds. But apparently the chance of the children, flowers, having seeds that glow is less likely. I'm still very interested in splicing glowing, the dark genes into plants.Unfortunately, it seems like they're out of stock mainly right now. I've thought about buying them before when they were released a year or 2 ago, but the reviews were not stellar, but it seems like now some people have had some success with themThere is the added caveat that technically , you're not supposed to sell the seeds or give them away in mass quantities commercially which I can sort of understand but seems impractical , when nature is gonna do what nature is gonna do
what to do with 10 liters of goose berries?>>2875179>>2875180impressive, how do you get them so clean?mine usually are quite dirty even after drying and brushing
>>2875389harvested a couple of outliers the other day, but its time to harvest if the weather improves slightly
>>2875389>10 litres of any kind of berryWine, jam or preserve my dude.
>>2875363Winter. Haven't actually grown proper summer squash except courgettes, eyeing up a straightneck variety for next yearGood luck with the gourds. I plant mine on top of a bucket of horse shit and they go mad.
>>2875389By the time I got done harvesting, the dirt on the roots would be dry enough that I could get it off with a scrub brush. Then I peeled the lowest green leaf leaving a clean bulb and clipped the stem to 6-8". I'll keep doing it if they store well this way, otherwise next year I might leave all the leaves and hang them in bundles in the garage instead
>>2875393Gourds are crazy, cus you can just toss the seeds around and they'll still grow. Yeah man, hope your squash turn out well.
>>2875381Petunias are crazy easy to grow, but im in zone 8. I just make sure they dont dry out and they go berserk.Ive heard about the glow in the dark but havent tried them.
>>2875381This guys is spot on >>2875407just put them in a pot and water.
>>2875410>just put them in a potI had some seed out and they were just growing in random spots around my shop for a couple years with zero effort, just surviving on rain.I did some early summer yard work a couple years ago and mowed them before they seeded out and they didnt come.back.
My zucchini storage peaked at 40 before I gave them away to family>>2875147I recognize this table
Garlic harvest, about 100, also have some more from trials of new cultivars in pots, "Lubasza" came on top again>>2875179>>2875180Nice, why do you clean them and remove the stalk though, they store better if you let them dry on their own in my experience
Fortunately branches didn't snap, I thinned them out but it's still a ton of apricots >>2875209I have a problem with wasp niggers, they keep damaging my fruits causing them to rot
>>2875424see>>2875199>>2875396I also didn't have a curing spot set up in my garage yet and I didn't want to bring all the leaves and dirt inside to the basement
I love globe artichokes >>2875236I'm glad they recovered, I made the same mistake when I was starting with succulents>>2875250Tomatillos are really mid in my opinion, inferior to sour tomatoes in every way but they do make for a nice novelty>>2875251I have never seen anyone starting radishes in pots, they grow well if you just dump seeds onto bare soil
>>2875389Make a wine>>2875429Makes sense, this guy grows them for sale so they have to look nice for clients, you can skip this step if you just grow for yourselfYou can just hang them outside under a roof and they'll dry just fine as long as they don't get direct sun or rain, I'll make a photo of mine tomorrow
Allotment has a lot of stone in the ground. What should I do with all of them? I reckon I could fill up a gorilla bucket pretty easily.
>>2875427I’ve put a 10 ft 2x10 under branches that heavy for support and it worked well to prevent snappage.Garlic, chives, lavender, and marigolds around the area will help deter pests. Still pisses me off.
>>2875389You could eat that many. Maybe bake a pie or two.
I’m looking for a garlic that I can grow in 8b humid sup tropical environments (San Antonio that ideally requires no chill time in freezer if anyone has experience
>>2875463Softnecks are what you want. Look up different varieties and see what looks good to you
>>2875464I’ve tried Italian early ,Texas rose,now I’m gonna try Messidor and ichtium red,I want to know if anyone else had success and what they grew,that Texas rose is apparent descended from thehalletsville garlic ,but because of Jewish globalism it’s not commercial production anymore and propibly lost some of its warm summer adaptability when I tried it,
>>2875464Both the Italian and my rose formed unibulbs this year ,the previous year the rose produced actuall cloves,any other than that I guess it would have to be a breeding program to make garlic work down here,any anons done garlic breeding ?
>>2875463This kind.Lol sorry I cant be more specific.Im in 8b. This is just a couple that were flowering so they didnt get mowed. Mother planted them about 15 years ago and they've just over taken their own area in the yard. They thrive with zero care.I only dig them up when im cooking and realize im out of garlic.Tried to dry some one year but it didnt turn out (maybe was just too humid).
>>2875463No garlic requires chill time, that just causes the bulb to split. Society garlic is pretty good and you can just use the leaves instead of worrying about a bulb.
>>2875546Typical libtard response,you do realize Mexicans and South Asia people who live In the jungle grow garlic right.so there most be a way to grow it without a freeze
>>2875554I think you read me wrong. Even garlic that needs a freeze doesn't really need a freeze.
MmmmmSo appealing....
>>2875554NTA >lives in commiefornia>calls other people libtardsChecks. Why don’t you go ask them mehicans how to grow it then fucktard?
>>2875561>californiaNot everyone is a homo like you>>2875554wjat garlic do you grow becuase mine don’t want to form cloves
>>2875563Mine is transplanted from my in-law’s yard… it’s garlic variety garlic?
>>2875565Is it form regular sized bulbs or is it wild?
>>2875566Regular but smaller than normal. I don’t have any pics handy or I would post an example.I have wild garlic too in the back quarter. Tiny little flavor bombs.
My squash is making hermaphrodite flowers. Why?
>>2875583It's 2026 you chud just let it be trans if it wants to
>>2875588>>2875583
>>2875588>>2875589I burned my whole garden down and salted the earth.
>>2875604Too late anon, it won't make the thoughts go awayYou are already infected
>>2875604The native plants mind virus already has you
>>2875611Honestly would be surprised if anything could survive salted earth.>>2875610>an heros
>>2875625It depends how salted you mean. Saltwater is a natural occurrence so you'd expect some salt-tolerance from plants in affected ecosystems. Some beach natives like rugosa rose and beach plum are naturally somewhat tolerant, and mangroves and their associated species since they're from brackish swamps. There are a bunch of random grasses and shrubs that are very salt resistant.
>>2875625>it has what plants crave
I have tiny red aphids investation my balcony pots. How did they get here? Like I'm on a floor 21.
>>2875659Adult aphids have wings and can go quite far, even cracking a window for a few hours can be enough to start an infestationBut what you have here looks too small to be aphids, those are likely spider mites
>>2875633>It depends how salted you meanIdeally a solid inch evenly distributed. But yeah I have heard of mangroves.
>>2875659>tiny red aphidsSounds like clover mites.
Deer ate a bunch of my tomatoe and broccoli plants. Its kinda depressing. Also my fault for not putting up enough fencing
>>2875672Time for venison burgers.
I'm growing my own weed and it feels so gooooooooood huhuhhhhuhuh bob marlboro
>>2875694Also this was done, just had light stress so more white
>>2875694You'd better be growing native strains that help the local ecosystem.
Picked just under four and half pounds of blackberries this morning. Will probably get about 15-20 pounds total before the birds decimate them
>>2875705What do you mean? Landraces? I'm autism
>>2875719Landraces are ferals. Generally something introduced by humans and then left on their own to adapt.Natives are something that evolved as a species/sub-species in that particular range/environment under natural conditions without human intervention.
>>2875180>20% humidity>62 degreesBrother where do you live. It's 52% in my house right now WITH running AC.
>>2875694nice brojust harvested my plants (first time grower) and have one more (pic rel) thats going to grow over the summerdid it for the first time ever and gave them too much fertilizer after going without, they re-entered the vegetative state and flowered anew, killing the existing buds so im not having a great harvest from the ones i just trimmed :(imo growing weed is actually kinda hard, i think i used the wrong soil and fertilizer and ran into a bunch of problems from too little nitrogen to too much potassium at the same time
>>2875731Midwest, basement stays comfy year round. It's also been a really mild week
>>2875736It's a learning curve but can be done brainlessly as well. These things are called weed after all.
>>2875740ive bought three seeds of that variant youre seeing here and the heatwave killed twothis plant is 1,5months old and i hope its getting much bigger as i just repotted it and will do again in like two weeksi just want some nice looking big buds like in the promotional pictures :D
>>2875741Do you have a ph meter? Get one. There's a golden rule to growing weed. LITFA. leave it the fuck alone. All of all of the weed in my picture was grown with neglect. I did absolutely nothing but water it, and I got a result. Just relax and let the plant plant
>>2875742nah no pH meter, this time im not fucking around with fertilizer and just repot the thing so the plant gets enough nutrients from the soil (which is specifically for weed and has some fertilizer)went from yoghurt pot > 2l pot > 6l pot now and the last will be 15l so it can stretch nice and bigwhen i was repotting it the whole pot was basically bright white from the roots, so the plant looks happy and healthy at least
>>2875743Don’t repot it. Start it in the final pot or repot it from a seedling into the final pot right away. Keep your light low, not close enough to burn it but right on top. Just use a bag of fox farm grow medium. It’ll have all the nutrients you need.What this guy said >>2875742leave it the fuck alone.You can get some seltzer water and a spray bottle and hit it 3 times a day for extra CO2. Godspeed young buck. Growing outside helped me lose a whole person. >>2862593>>2862603
>>2875463tldr look for a variety in the subtropical group if you want it to be easy, otherwise look for anything that says it's early season and look it up to see if you can find anyone growing it around your latitudehere's a quick rundown on garlic lore if anyone's curious>garlic has been propagated clonally since even before it was cultivated, either by bulbils (basically a small clone that grows instead of a seed), or by planting cloves>since it doesn't sexually reproduce and its offspring are all clones of the parent, there are actually only really 11 different lineages called 'groups'>there is a small amount of variation within these groups but not much>some garlics are closer to the ancient wild ancestors>they're called hardnecks because they form a scape (flower stalk)>they tend to have a stronger flavor and are generally grown at higher latitudes>within hardnecks some varieties are 'strongly bolting' (they form scapes readily) and some are 'weakly bolting' (they form scapes more reluctantly)>other garlics have lost the ability to produce scapes altogether (under normal conditions) and are called softnecks>they tend to have a milder flavor and are generally grown at lower latitudes, though there are exceptionslet's talk about photoperiod>wild aliums (plants in the garlic/onion genus) form bulbs as a way of going dormant during times of the year they wouldn't be able to survive normally>to know what time to form a bulb they rely on the photoperiod (length of the day)>'early season' garlic groups need the shortest photoperiod to trigger bulb formation, roughly 13h days>turban & asiatic - hardneck, weekly bolting>'mid season' need 14-15h days>glazed purple-stripe & porcelain - hardneck, strongly bolting>creole - hardneck, weekly bolting>artichoke - softneck, i.e. non-bolting>'late season' need 14-16h days>rocambole, marbled purple stripe & standard purple stripe - hardneck, strongly bolting>silverskin - softneck, i.e. non-bolting(1/?)
>>2875779>then there's the subtropical group which can form bulbs without respect to the photoperiod and will generally just do it when they've been in the ground long enough (they may also respond to temperature, not 100% sure on that)so you can see why certain (late season) varieties are impossible to grow at low latitudes because the day length required to trigger bulb formation will never happen, but why can't you grow the early season hardnecks in the turban and asiatic groups at low latitudes? basically it's because at high latitudes they will reach that day length well before the hottest time of year (and the hottest time of the year will generally be cooler), whereas at low latitudes they won't reach that day length until the height of summer, and by then the temperature will have either killed the plant or else caused it to bolt, which means the plant will be spending its energy trying to produce a scape rather than trying to produce a bulbyou can extend the bulb forming period of hardnecks by removing the scapes, and this is usually done where hardnecks are grown (apparently they're edible and quite nice but I've never had them since you can't reliably grow hardnecks at my latitude), but past a certain point they will just grow back rather than causing the plant to focus on bulb developmentbasically if you're at a latitude where the day is never over 14 hours you will have a lot better a time just growing subtropical varieties. turban and asiatic varieties will be doable if you expect a cool summer but less reliable than subtropical because of the risk of bolting(2/3)
>>2875780now for some elite level bonus facts>remember how I said they don't reproduce sexually?>that's because when the scape forms it grows bulbils, which crowd out any flowers>if you carefully pull off the bulbils as soon as they start growing, flowers will be able to grow>these flowers can be pollinated and will produce viable seeds>this is called 'true garlic seed'>germination rate is generally terrible and what plants do grow will take multiple years to form a bulb>once they do, cloves can be propagated as normal>garlic grown this way (supposedly) grows much more vigorously than ordinary garlic and is far more resistant to disease>you might be able to buy cloves of some F1 hybrids grown this way where you live, just look up 'true garlic seed' and see if you can find a vendor>these will all be hardneck varieties since softnecks are unable to form scapes and therefore cannot produce any flowers>*except* sometimes in rare circumstances, softnecks will produce scapes, and various plant hormones (auxins and gibberelins) are being researched to trigger scape formation in softnecks>soon there might be true garlic seed grown softneck varieties available, but not yetanyway half of this information might be wrong, it's an unsourced 4chan post what do you expect?(3/3)
>>2875751i dont have to guerilla grow (legalized for two years now) and dont have a spot to just plant it, so pots it isproblem with growing it in one single pot is watering, having to water a big ass pot with a tiny ass plant is going to get you overwatering problems and the repotting makes fertilizer unnecessary
>>2875783I do most of my stuff in containers. River rock at the bottom and plenty of holes help drainage and prevent overwatering. My experience has been the opposite. Never enough water for the containers. I no longer grow the Devil’s lettuce (they legalized it here too and my quality can’t compete) but I’m one of those assholes that grow a couple dozen tomatoes a year now. I started about 3 years ago but went full no till this year and never even broke out the rototiller.Work smarter not harder.80/20 rule.
>>2875786Rocks don't increase drainage
>>2875795Shrug wtf do I know. Keep being a retard then. Enjoy your cover of high times 1978 weed.
>>2875795huh apparently this is true, always used a layer of those clay balls at the bottom but this article says its better to just mix them with the soilhttps://deepgreenpermaculture.com/2019/09/06/should-you-put-gravel-or-rocks-at-the-bottom-of-plant-pots-for-drainage/
>>2875799Well water causes soil to stick together to form something like a sponge. It can only hold a certain amount of water, with more being at the bottom from gravity, and any excess just runs out through the holes. As the top dries out, the bottom water is wicked up slowly. All rocks in the bottom does is raise the bottom of the soil higher so that the reservoir is higher, which can be good for really shallow-rooted plants but is typically a pointless maneuver that reduces the capacity (except to weigh the pot down).Drainage of the soil is determined by particle size/shape and how compacted it is, so very fine particles leave almost no gaps in-between for it to flow through. Sand is much bigger resulting in huge gaps, and compost is of irregular sizes which leads to a good amount of gaps and a high surface area for retaining water. Rocks are basically a more extreme case than sand, but the gaps between them will end up full of soil which effectively means there is no gap. Particularly, combining big particles and small particles can lead to the smallest particles neatly sorting into the gaps and making drainage even worse.Basically to increase drainage you just want the soil to stay loose and with big particles. Pumice and perlite do it pretty good. Sandy soil has the best drainage which can be toned down with compost so it retains more water. This is an entirely physics-driven process like Plinko so as long as you focus on the physical attributes of your soil additives and not their nutrients, you can imagine it.
>>2875780Aye more info on this subtropical line of genes,Google is being homosexual
Amaranth bros wwa
>>2875822I think i have one of these.
>>2875804I actually had no idea but it turns out the subtropical grouping was designated in australia for a handful of local varieties and isn't used internationally. Unless you can find glenlarge, southern glen, italian red or italian pink for sale you might not even be able to get true day length neutral garlic in the US. there are supposedly some day length neutral varieties grown in india too but I don't know if any of them will be available outside of wherever they're traditionally grown. sorry about that, I never once considered that something like that would be specific to my otherwise basically irrelevant corner of the world. you'll probably just have to go for the early weakly bolting hardnecks like turban, asiatic and creole and just nurse them to try and stop them bolting in the summer - remove scapes, keep them well mulched and watered to keep the temperature down as that's what triggers bolting, maybe even a shade cloth would help but I don't know much about that since I just grow subtropicalsI had a look for what varieties they grow in mexico since someone mentioned it earlier and it looks like they mostly grow turbans. I would have thought you wouldn't be able to stop them bolting but I guess they manage. people don't generally bother where I'm from (subtropical australia) but I suppose that's more because there's a much easier option than that hardnecks are actually infeasible. I'm gonna do some more research about that since I might try growing some hardnecks next season
>>2875836ok small correction it turns out it's water stress not temperature that causes them to bolt in the summer, so mulch and water will help but a shade cloth probably won't. they do bolt in response to temperature as well but it's low temperatures not high temperatures so that's not gonna be an issue outside of cooler climates. as long as you keep them from getting water stressed you can apparently prevent weakly bolting hardnecks from bolting at all
>>2875795I believe that what Anon is trying to sayor what inspired the sentimentis that a large step in pore size prevents drainagelike if you had soggy soil sitting on a grate, if wouldn't drip or drain, just remain soggy asat least one effect that moves the water is or is akin to capilary actionbut this would also impky that if you chuck some river rocks in to just prevent stuff from falling out the drain holes, then gradually finer rocks followed by soil, it's what I always do at least to prevent the soik from just filling the voids between the rocks, then the water should sort of wick down or up, even through pores gradually changing in size
>>2875842Thank you. This. I’m retarded when trying to express my ideas succinctly.The article quoted even says “I don’t know why traditional gardeners did this” because it works. Simple as. That’s my big problem with permaculture in general. Trying to reinvent the wheel. Just read some gardening books from 1920 or before.
>>2875849>Just read some gardening books from 1920 or beforeno manscience is progressing wether you want it or not, new isnt badhydroponics have come a long way since then and our understanding of biology too
Kill Squirrels. Behead Squirrels. Roundhouse kick a Squirrel into the concrete. Slam dunk a Squirrel into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Squirrels. Defecate in Squirrel nests. Launch Squirrels into the Sun. Stir fry Squirrels in a wok. Toss Squirrels into active volcanoes. Urinate on Squirrel food. Judo throw Squirrels into a wood chipper. Twist Squirrel heads off. Report Squirrels to the Githyanki Warriors. Karate chop Squirrels in half. Curb stomp Squirrels. Trap Squirrels in quicksand. Crush Squirrels in the trash compactor. Liquefy Squirrels in a vat of acid. EAT Squirrels. Dissect Squirrels. Exterminate Squirrels in the gas chamber. Stomp Squirrel skulls with steel-toed boots. Cremate Squirrels in the oven. Lobotomize Squirrels. Stuff Squirrel heads in the garbage disposal. Drown Squirrels in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Squirrels with Magic. Kick old Squirrels down the stairs. Feed Squirrels to other Squirrels. Slice Squirrels with a Silver Sword.
>>2875852Son have a seat. You ever hear about the old bull and the young bull standing on the hill?Young bull looks down on the herd of cows and says to the old bull “I’m gonna run down there and fuck one of them cows!”Old bull is just chewing his cud and replies “I’m going to walk down there and fuck them all.”Don’t be so fast to throw the baby out with the bath water in favor of “NPK science”. I recommend some Ruth Stout, Albert Howard, Elliot Coleman, or something similar.
>>2875854You know you can just eat them right anon?>they don’t want you to know but the squirrels in the park are free
>>2875855just because this works doesnt mean other things dont (or work even better)the only constant in life is change
>>2875855The only way you can make a point is to repeat a joke from the 1970's? Come on now unc...
>>2875877Like I said. Sit down son the grownups are talking.>>2875876The more things change the more they stay the same.
>>2875852It's not like new and old ideas are necessarily in conflict, they just had different solutions to things.
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>>2875711the ones that have red on them still will probably still be sourI just had my first experience with them and ended up picking a lot of them too early. If you can leave them to ripen a bit more, they'll be much more overall sweet instead of a tinge of sour. (unless you like your blackberries that way/are using them to make jam or something)My bush produced a lot this year for the first time (just planted it last year) and the birds have found it. I'm trying out these covers i got on amazon to see if it'll help stop the birds from eating them and letting them ripen a bit longer before picking this next batch.
>>2875963Ya those are too early.Its difficult to judge but after a few seasons you can recognize when the drupelets (the individual little spheres) are swollen. Thats when thwyre sweetest.But there's not much vine time between that and when they either fall or start to shrivel so you have to pay attention.
>>2875900
The Big Mushroom returns.
Up and over, pumpkin #2 in going around on the grass.
fucking bastard piece of shit
HAHAHA YES
Whats with wild honey bees staying in pumpkin flowers long after they've closed up?
When are potatoes ready to harvest? Carrrots are not large than they appear.
>>2876053Do you want really big, beautiful moths flying around?Because thats how you get really big, beautiful moths flying around.
>>2876053Get a UV flashlight, they glow in the dark
>>2876057When they turn brown and start to die off.
>>2876069i get enough pleasure from the black swallowtails and polyphemus moths, hornworms can die
>>2876053gotta admit hes pretty photogenic
>>2876081quadrivalvis doing some heavy lifting in the background desu
>>2875625you can water coconuts solely with seawater
just tried some of my homegrown weed and i gotta say i think i enjoy the cultivation much more than actually consuming itjust took very little with a gravity bong and oh boy after not smoking for 10y im still feeling it 3h after, makes me want to eat a shitload of stuff even though im still full god damn
I love GOURDS
Is this disease or overwatering on my tomatoes?
>>2876463either over- or underwatering, symptoms are pretty close
>>2875147homegroing is a scam. Especially if you want to achieve the same quality and size of the fruits and vegetables like the one from.the store, it gets more expensive than buying from.the store.
Hello /hgm/, I moved into a house with a lot of fruit trees left from the previous owner. I have 1 female fig, 1 lemon, 3 orange, 1 peach, 2 pomegranate, 2 grape fruit, 3 small plums, and a pear. I foolishly trimmed some of the trees in the growing season instead of the winter. But anyways, the varieties of fruit that these trees give suck. the plums are sour and the grapefruit is also I want to learn more about grafting so I can graft better varieties to these trees. im actuall pretty sure that the cherry is an overgrown mirabelle plum that the rootstock took over. and the peach is the result of some peach pit being thrown into the garden. thank you for reading my blog
>>2876524If you have never grafted anything in your life I recommend you start learning right now on tomatoes and peppers if you have any before you risk that next Spring on your trees, it's not the same as grafting wood but it's close enough if you want to learn and you have minimal loses if you fuck up
>>2876057Man why can't my garden be that green
>>2876524>the cherry is an overgrown mirabelle plum that the rootstock took overUnlikely, cherry is never used as rootstock for plums. I'm almost positive it's prunus cerasifera, cherry plum>the plums are sourAre you sure they're ripe? Post a pic of them
>>2876463Mostly normal for lower leaves. You're not using chlorinated water are you?
>>2876513horry shite, this level of dumbfuckness!>Especially if you want to achieve the same quality and size of the fruits and vegetables like the one from.the storecant get any dumber then this. sure you never had any fresh veggies from a real home garden. >it gets more expensive than buying from.the store.can be true if you do it wrong but still quality and taste are dimensional betterback to plebbit anyway
>>2876513A cutting is like $10-15. And they don't scale more expensive with more rare or luxurious varieties. Bleeding-edge dessert shite is not hard to find, and neither are specialist varieties for you local climate.
>>2876543they're not cherries they're small plums i misspoke. i don't think its prunus cerasifera because it doesn't give a lot in bunches. the lower branches were green when they were ripe and they were good but the upper branches were red when ripe and tasted sour that's why I thought its an overgrown rootstock. i can't get you any ripe fruit as they've all fallen down and rotten by now
>>2876618prunus cerasifera fruit looks like mirabelle, can have multiple colors of fruits, is sour and seed doesnt split easily from part you eatcherry has round seed, tree we are talking about has almond shape seeds, like plums but smalldont look at google pictures of tree shape, think about fruit description
>>2876556Yeah my water comes directly from my hose should I invest in a rain barrel>>2876481It's likely overwatering because it's been raining alot lately
>>2876617Lol.Dude.Its 2026.When was the last time you bought sapplings?Are you just buying random shit in 1 gallon pots at home depot that wont produce anything for a decade?!
>>2876525Roses are great to learn grafting on.
>>2876738>sapplingslike what are we talking about here, trees or small/medium garden plants like tomatoes?saplings were never cheap, also you can grow your own too
>>2875736plant is getting bigger :)
>>2875147https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV6q08ycHRkThis guy is digging a water well on his homestead island in the middle of a lake or river.Building a well is good, but why doesn't he try purifying from the lake/river? To begin with, the water of his well will come from the percolated/purified water from the river/lake above ground.
>>2876793Looks very vigorous. May wanna cut some of the light blocking fan leaves
>>2876820nah, its outdoor over the day and soon fully so the lower leaves serve a purpose (also its nice to look at and i dont care about yield that much)
Here's my four month long potato harvest Planted in a 5" shallow 15sqft litter box
Mom wanted me to mix some dirt and soil last year tossed in some four o'clock seeds just because, and a year later for these. They managed without watering for a year and this is them after a month of some wood chips and shade cloth.Really fine and alkaline dirt. It's nearly sand for much of it, but it retains some moisture. The weeds are kept around it for some chop and drop and wind protection for now. If these keep up enough to make a nice canopy, I want to add some prairie wine cups and flax for a ground layer. Started mixing some cottonwood leaf litter and a bag of expired soil in the sandy spots too.
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>>2876846Those kinda look like peppers
Broke nigga here. Can I just show up at night and steal some of these bags of soil and mulch that Home Depot leaves outside?
>>2876856Flock no.
>>2876856They leave them outside overnight? I'd expect them to use pump-jacks to put them away or something, they're all on pallets.
How feasible would it be to build and use a steam tractor to work a farm without spilling a bunch of chemicals onto the field?
>>2876877Anon, those things are massive, draw us what you have in mind, also it's a steam engine, depends on what chemicals you intend to use.
>>2876856Loss prevention is the only department kept fully staffed, nignog.
>>2876876Yep
>>2876878I don't have anything in mind. Just a thought that crossed it.It would be powered by homemade charcoal or wood, so it would be clean. At least cleaner than using gas.
>>2876887You're in charge of the construction, what chemicals did you have in mind?
>>2876887Steam engines have to be lubricated constantly.If you’re that fucking worried about it get a horse.
>>2876889What do you mean? Steam engines are made with cast iron.>>2876890Good idea. Probably better overall for homestead use. Tractors are better for industrial farms.
>>2876892>What do you mean?Anon, your initial post meant that you were concerned with chemicals. Where are these chemicals coming from?
>>2876893The combusted gas used in regular tractors. That's why I considered using charcoal/wood-powered steam tractors instead.
>>2876877Dude.Watch a video on "starting" a steam engine.Youre talking about building a fire to boil a hundred gallons of water.Haven't you ever watched a movie where someone is stoking a boiler on a train?
>>2876895Have you ever seen a tractor that runs on steam that's close to the size of modern tractors? Steam tractors are massive because their engines are not as efficient space-wise compared to combustion tractor engines. Not to mention the gases released from modern tractors are negligible to say the least. How large an area are you planning on ploughing?>Inb4 your mum's a large area i'd plough
>>2876896I have. I remember seeing one that wasn't that much bigger than some of the modern ones (not small but not gigantic either).>>2876897A few acres to feed the family. It's just a hypothetical scenario.>>Inb4 your mum's a large area i'd ploughKek
>>2876898Get a horse/cow. They're more enjoyable to have around for the family. Look up books by the late John Seymour, they'll have something in them about using draught animals, comfy reads too>Why get a cow when you've got yer' mum? aaay lmao
>>2876899Will do, thank you very much.
>>2876846They supposedly grow like weeds and they'll make a ton of seeds.I tried growing some this year but it was surprisingly hard to get them to germinate. I only really have one big plant so far and for whatever reason it decided to grow horizontally from the start. It probably has at least 50 flowers on it now though. I have two more sprouting next to it that will be different colors. If they survive the winter I should have a pretty nice patch of them next year.
>>2876910Yeah my mom's property has some four oclocks that cling on despite neglect. Facing north, there use to yellow ones all along 3 o'clock to 7 o'clock. The ones at 7 o'clock climb on despite being near concrete and on the South side which have managed to to persist for 13 years with very intermittent watering. There's one in the shallow window well that I think is the progenitor for all of the current yellow ones living on the south side. The ones on the east side eventually died because of no water at all, but I planted a few seeds there a month ago and they sprouted. I noticed there's not much rhyme or reason for what direction they grow. Picrel was vertical until I watered it from above and then it completely wanted to go horizontal. Put in a couple stakes to train it to be upright again.This one got large enough to flower all on its own without consistent watering or wood chips. It likes this spot right beside the stone stairs because it's cooler. Same spot as some historic yellows. The ones in my pictures are from a mixed color batch so I'm hoping to get some fun ones As for how to get them to germinate, I have no idea. I just threw some in dirt last year. The newer sprouts were watered in clay loam which had wood chips ~20 years ago.
>>2876910They definitely grow like weed, I hate them and their stupid tubersAt least they smell good and watching the flowers going from single color to a rainbow mess later in the season is funny
>>2875147I rented a greenhouse this year. I thought I'd have more free time then I actually did but I'm making it work. I really regret not getting the irrigation setup. I've been hosing it and flooding greenhouse the trenches I dug between some of them.I'll be moving onto 40 acres in a month or two. Just in time to prep fir next spring. But no big old hoophouse there.
Hello hgm! I've been thinking of starting container gardening, simple things for now like parsley and carrots, and I'd like for some advice on buying soil.1. What to get and what to avoid. Should I try to get as high an amount of NPK nutrients as possible?2. Buy by weight or volume? May be an EU thing but some soil bags are measured in liters others in kg.I can't shake off this feeling I'm getting ripped off at stores with shoddy vegetables sold at way too high a price.
>>2876965>buying dirtNgmi
>>2876965if you live in a smaller community there might be a recycling depot that has good quality soil from compost if you need it in m^3 quantitiespeat free soil is better for the environment but sucks ass imo
>>2876965soil should be relatively inert nutritionally so dont sweat the listed npkroot vegetables like loose sandy soil (compost helps with this, not with nutrition)don't fertilize too much because carrots are light feeders that don't need itavoid soil with wood chips added because they tie up nitrogenparsley family plants bolt easily in hot climates, containers heat more than groundparsley family tend to germinate slow, a few weeks not a few days so expect that
>>2876954If one dries out, it makes for great mulch tho
>>2875200>Hopefully I can get some flowers of my own next year.Correction: I am getting flowers this year! I think
I was comparing some old photos and this thing grew even faster than I'd remembered. Good plant/10.
>>2877030Yep.Those would be flowers.Mine are still blooming. I have 20 full size fruit hanging and 2 dozen flowers in bloom.I might get more than just a pitcher of lemonade this year.
>>2877033God I'm jealous. I love passionfruit so much bros.
>>2877034Ive never been able to do anything with them because the deer usually get them all.Family wont touch them because it looks like snot.Ive gotten like 1 ripe fruit in 15 years so this year is pretty cool
>>2876910>>2876954Visited today just to take a picture. Top right behind the peppers is the progenitor of 1 additional four o'clock in the window well and the small forest of them on the left ~-6-7 including sprouts. It has survived for 13 years off of the drippings from the faucet and rain water alone. The other bushes idk as much, but regardless this family / colony has survived probably 23 years with intermittent watering.
>>2876910>>2876954And then as mentioned, the east-side ones to that I planted a month ago. It was a mystery mix of random bullshit I bought from bags of seeds on sale but I'm pretty sure three of these are four o'clocks. I made some lazy 5 minute mulch cuz I'm out of chips. These will have a micro climate by the house + the only direct sun being in the morning.Area is eroded due to bipolar schizophrenic brother digging around, I'd be willing to bet the original family was still there.
>>2876965>Should I try to get as high an amount of NPK nutrients as possibleyou'll kill plants doing that. plants can have too much nutrient just like they can have too much water>container gardeningonly do this if you don't have any actual ground to grow plants in. plants will always prefer to grow in the ground as it holds its moisture and temperature much better than a container. if you must grow in a container just know all pre packaged potting soil is basically a scam. unless you personally know an experienced gardener that uses and vouches for a certain brand, assume it's wood chips mixed with mud and you'll probably be right>by weight or volumeI can't speak to whether you will be overcharged buying one way or the other, but it's much easier to measure by volume than by weight if you are preparing your own mix (which imo you should be, just for how much easier it makes things down the line). it's a lot easier to add x amount of scoops of something than it is to weigh out an amount, especially since you'll often be working with volumes many times larger than what you can fit on your scale>I can't shake off this feeling I'm getting ripped off at stores with shoddy vegetables sold at way too high a price.honestly I can't say I've saved money growing my own vegetables, but they have certainly been better. shop bought lettuce can't hold a candle to home grown
Is doing a distilled water flush a legitimate way of removing salt build up in a potted plant?
>>2877084Doesn't even need to be distilled, just flood it several times
I was out for a bike ride today along a path I've been down many times and when I look over .... APPLES! Turns out the city has public fruit trees / shrubs in various parks. I'll have to check out the grapes and pear locations.
>>2876965see>>2876057My soil is hand made, I imported in from a nice area and 1/4" filtered it. The carrots are using soil from another years pepper box growth. Its course sandy with mixed in leaf compost. Carrots should do well in sandy organic rich low N soil.
Project Amaranth begins.>BackstoryI moved into a lot 6 years ago that the owner didn't tell me they had put some kind of chemicals in the yard that would make sure NOTHING grows. It's something people use in driveways or some shit I guess, that's what my neighbor told me at least.Even though my landlord deadified the lawn, he INSISTED that I seed and water it every single year or he'll start "fining me".>Years 1-3Absolutely nothing would grow, I spent entire summers fertilizing and seeding for nothing but weeds to grow.>Years 3-5I introduced cornflower seeds to the yard, some of them took but ultimately it was only a couple.>Year 6, this yearI grew 2 containers with amaranth "love lives bleeding" plants at the start of spring. I harvested the seeds two weeks ago. What was 50 seeds in a packet spread between 2 pots, was 1/5 of a salad bowl of harvested seeds.>I spread amaranth seeds over my entire fucking lawn>Watered heavily>They're actually sprouting at least in patchesFucking finally, this shit should help with my awful soil and it will self seed infinitely.TL;DRFuck you landlord enjoy never getting rid of these amaranth. (The red sprouts)
>>2877155hit em with the wild chicory it's beautiful and perennial
>>2877088Pretty cool.They usually just do ornamental crap to reduce maintenance.Although ive planted burr oak acorns (largest acorn in North America- theyre like a golf ball) a friend sends me from their local park
>Transplanted 4 sprigs of white sage brush 13 years ago>Completely overtakes this section of the yard and more of left unattended>It's not even good for mulch really>Doesn't even smell particularly good or strong>Fire hazard during droughtFriend :)>>2877155 #Based. Amaranth is pretty too.
>>2877177I've been growing alfalfa as mantis habitats because it grows in anything and also fuck him. Chicory is nice though. >>2877202In my experience with herbs they're better as small plants anyways, though I e never grown sage. You are correct though amaranth is pretty, here's some of the seed donors in early summer.
Cant believe theyre still blooming.Weird fruit.I have full sized fruit on the vine.
>>2877210This is white sage so it's medicinal not for cooking. It's basically a small brush.
/hgm/ i feel very stupid.I usually grow lots of banana peppers and just a few regular bell peppers but this year i decided to swap and do more bells.I have a few bonnie green bells and then 2 sets of 4 pack ones i got that have different varieties. (purple/orange/red/yellows). I know that the peppers will ripen to those colors but the purple ones came in already purple. The other 3 varieties seem to be staying green for a very very long time. In fact, none of them have ripened on the vine yet.My question is, am i supposed to be pruning them in some way? I thought i saw something about trimming the leaves above them to let in more sun, but I also get pretty much all day sun on them so I'm afraid they'll get sun scorched. Or is it just that i should keep leaving them on the vine until they do ripen?
>>2877252They’ll get there. Patience is a virtue.
>>2877252just make sure they have enough water and fertilizer. don't cut leaves to give the fruit extra sun. green peppers will eventually turn color
Chlorophyllum Molybdites the "Vomiter"
>>2877087Doesn't really work if the water source was the salt source in the first place
>>2877301It does, salts are what remains after water evaporates If you flush even using water that has some salt in it (as long as it's not anywhere close to saturation) it'll still dissolve salts and flush them out
I left my garden for 10 days, fortunately it rained and I have drip under my veggies so no losses this timeThis is from before I left, first onion harvest, 31st, I didn't have time to post back then
Second harvest of onion >>2877252Peppers are heavily weather dependent in my experience, one year you'll get a ton of them effortlessly next year they'll struggle and you'll only get a few small ones because it was cold and wet most of the time, give them time and hope for good weather
None of my weeping mulberry cuttings took so I decided to go for the final resort and air layer it, timing is less than ideal, but I hope it'll root before October, I'll try again next year if it doesn't
>>2877418After, all set in
Climbing beans are finally flowering and growing pods, took them forever this year for some reason
The final harvest of apricots for this year
I'm growing twelve 35 liter pots of sweet potatoes this year, it'll be the largest harvest I have ever had if noting goes wrong I'm trying "Covington" this year, very popular US sweet potato cultivar I bought from grocery, I have 3 pots of it
>>2877416Man I'm jelly, 90% of mine got white rot
>>2877421These are beautiful
