Are /out/ activities a good way to make friends? As a guy, I'm always looking for shit to do, particularly shit to do with other guys and /out/ activities seem like my golden ticket to some fast friends. Does this work?
>>2877181Why do you want friends? Seems weird
>>2877181I go /out/ so that I can enjoy nature, views, being grounded, acting on impulses, but most of all solitude.Please don't 'make friends' should you ever see me /out/. Thanks.
>>2877181i usually bring weed and beer when i go /out/ and jthen offer people to come party with me.
>>2877181Any time I go fishing alone in a public place like a canal or lake near a city I'll have at least one guy come up and ask me about my luck, what I'm fishing for and what kinda rig I have. Last time I ended up chilling with some Polack and shared my jetty with with him, drank a couple beers and smoked cigs together.
Do you have any friends yet? Ive been watching this thread for 2 weeks
I'm 41, live in pic, no genuine friends or mate (ever) in spite of being quite well-known in the survivalist community. I'm a severe autist, so that might have something to do with it. IRL has totally failed, so, I'm trying something radically different (going online).https://discord.gg/uNHfcxewN
>>2879370how do i get an out friend who is a loser and willing to tolerate other losers, but can actually hold a conversation and isn't too autistic?
>>2879386>how do i get an out friend who is a loser and willing to tolerate other losersLosers are narcissists. Most narcissists are losers even, the winner narcissist is the minority. A good deal of the behavior anons call autistic could be better explained as symptoms of NPD, like being aloof, avoidant, inability to socialize (actually autistic people are often overly social). Losers can’t be friends, security comes from competency. You worry about yourself too much, you let it hold you back, this has set you back and made your self esteem problems and the situation worse. Life is hard, many turn to living for something else, politics or religion. Get money get muscles, don’t give up on your dreams.
>>2879390im not so concerned with pathologies and labels, I just want someone I can have interesting conversations with while hiking/driving to hikes that isn't just gearfaggotry or listing the types of guns or military battles of the past or differences between coding languages etc.
>>2877235>Seems weirdfriendseal,,,palslooking out for Toothy.,,,neverealy relax,untill bellydown on dry rock.,,,,buthen he tryed to take us tothe next level/?.,,im nothat kind of Human!,,was good long winter friend to 'Shep, sheephead fish top dog,,,erhhh Top Fish!,,,,his territory full of lady fish,only the #1 fish turns Male,,,REAL Female to Male,natures tranny.,,,buthen one day i wasnthere,,and he gotshot by spearfisher guy,,,,,,,,,,,sad.,,,,then there wasthat Female Dolphinat Kepple island.,,im still tramatized.
Hope you find some friends OP, stop smoking weed also will help
>>2879390Oh man this describes me in my 20s so accurately it's painful. Depressed and narcissistic is a really bad combination I'm glad I got over. But anyway OP if you want to make friends as an adult you have to be the one actively trying. You can't just bumble around trails hoping to walk into new friends. Every single other adult your age who doesn't have a social life is also passively looking for friends but finding reasons to filter out every person that comes their way. Don't do that, you are way past the age where the world will naturally force friends into your life.
>>2877181I just hike with my dad, he's in his late 60's and has way better endurance than me. Once he's not able to hike with me anymore I'll probably just go solo. Done some hikes with friend-of-a-friend normies and they're very loud and disrespectful.
>>2879422How did you get over it?
>>2877181People past their early 20s make friends with other parents through their kids, if you didn't get to have any no one wants anything to do with you.
>>2879924This is going to sound so cliche but it's the truth, I finally recognized and accepted that I was a narcissist and talked to a therapist. I had ruined a 6 year relationship and NEETed out for 5 years because of it, I finally had enough. I never took pills or anything, just met with him every two weeks and helped put my life back together. Therapy really does work you just have to be 100% completely and totally honest which is VERY hard for a narcissist.
Do you have any friends yet OP? Please respond
>>2880023>Therapy really does workNah you are just dumb. The only reason to do business with them at all is that they have a state granted racket on pills and the best thing they offer is overcharging to teach you about stoicism. As someone who reads philosophy I know there is just nothing they could reveal to me. The whole concept of psychology is a part of the general sickness of the modern world stemming out of the acceptance of positivism/critical rationalism, it’s not a science it’s postmodern nihilism. Mental illnesses are normative statements, these are meaningless value judgements that don’t pertain to anything objective. I’m not saying that you got nothing out of it and that it doesn’t belong, you can go to psychologists or psychics or whoever you want, but what I’m about to tell you is important alt right knowledge.
>>2880800Science isn’t separate from philosophy, what we call science is an accepted philosophy of science, what we are calling science today was born out of a group of (mostly jewish) philosophers called the Vienna circle, also called the positivists. The ultimate goal of this positivist philosophy was to rescue empiricism in order to make normative statements scientific and thus justify them as legally binding. This is where science went all wrong and became the priesthood of modernity, and that was the goal! To do this they said there are only 2 kinds of meaningful statements, analytic statements which are just basic definitions (a bachelor is an unmarried man) and synthetic statements which means hypotheses (question>test>answer), the flaw in the argument is which kind of statement is it that there are only 2 statements, if analytic then the entire thing is tautological and meaningless if it’s synthetic then how did they test for it. What they have done essentially is cut logic out of arguments entirely to pave the way for a postmodern academic establishment, entire fields are now based entirely on this, it’s the entire basis of justifying anything the government does because it can justify anything, science is now essentially a popularity contest. The science that gets done is just the questions that get asked, truth is whatever gets funding, and the only way to justify anything is through a political process of peer reviewing. The scientists themselves are becoming dumber and more political in response to the environment, more and more often believing in their own ability to rule the world through technocracy and thus all pushing and pining for even more control much to the glee of those who are actually going to end up with the more control.
>>2880801And it’s honestly just so sick, these people don’t help you, they help you become something not you, they sell you on the idea that you shouldn’t be you. It’s like AI, if I ask AI how to kill myself it will just tell me not to kill myself, that’s not for me that’s for something else, if I want to jump off a bridge then telling me how is what’s helping me. Descriptive social theory is useless in the first place, putting people into boxes doesn’t help ceteris paribus after the presumably coming prescription, and a logic based prescriptive social theory doesn’t need to account for personal details at all.
