>go /out/ with a few relatives >they want to socialize all day and play games and chitchat>I just want to contemplate nature in absolute silence
>>2879595>go out with people>there are people out with you>how does this happen?!111
>>2879595yeah, i hate going out with other people. They are invariably:>too chatty>complain about rain, mud, temperatures, whatever>stop every 3 minutes to take a picture.going with pic related on the other hand is always great.
>>2879601Nobody could have seen it coming
>>2879595i always catch more fish when im alone. and i am weirded out by people who need music blaring 24/7. that being said it is nice of non-nature people to partake in your favourite hobby anon. it means they like you.
>>2879604how do i teach a stray fren to come out with me
>>2879595how I feel when I go on vacation with family
>>2879595Yeah I know the feel.>go on a hike with my mom>she spends the whole time complaining about her neighbors and politics and ruins the whole scene
>>2879604hell is other people, as they say
>go out without people>enjoy an hour of peace in the mountain>BBBRRRRRR BRRRR BRRRRRRRERR>BOOM, BOOMBOOM CHIC, BOOM, BOOMBOOM CHIC>BRRRR BRRRRRRRRR BRRRRRRRR>brown literally, figuratively, and physically unable to go for 20 minutes without making noise>still happening at 11pmI fucking hate them.
>hunt every September >Have a spot we camp every year, 4 guys,4 trailers>One guy brings his wife and son one year>This year he brings wide,son,daughter & husband, grandkids, friends, friends kids>Turns quiet camping spot into party, satellite set-up, constant banda music>Me and one other guy go find a new site a few miles away>He comes and asks us what's wrong
>>2879595>go /out/ alone>have fun blown argument in my head
>>2879595>"Let's go camping">It's at commercial campsite right next to a town or village, not at all remote>they drive there by car>The car is filled to the absolute top with shit you don't need>spotify blasting from a bluetooth speaker mixes with the frat boy party music from your next door neighbor's speaker>discussions are essentially workplace watercooler tier gossip, not a second of silence>drive by car from the campsite to a store to buy food, drive back and grill it>"It's so good to get out in nature sometime">mfw It's not the end of the world, it just has little to nothing to do with the way I'd spend my time if I could pick my ideal /out/ trip.I've found that mentally reframing it as "hanging out with friends" helps me chill and accept it for what it is: Paying to pitch a tent on someone else's lawn. Can still be fun, though I'd enjoy it immensely more if people could live without having spotify play 24/7.My favorite part of taking people hiking is how they slowly begin to accept silence. First day they can't stop talking, second it'll start to become a little inconsistent with occasional breaks, and by day 3 you reach that perfect mode where you walk alongside each other in silence because everything that needs to be said has been said. Nothing is being said and yet it's the closest form of communication you can have with someone.