>>4489604
>crashes
say, “thank you open source!”

Please, tell your next employer about how you are proficient in....Dark... table?

>Added support for multiple workspace. When the corresponding option is activated on the preferences, Darktable opens a dialog when starting. From this dialog one can select the default workspace (the one created the first time and currently used by everyone by default) or to create a new one. Each workspace has it’s own database and configuration file (collection, last UI defaults…).

Perfect timing. I was just thinking about how I could do this with a duplicated AppImage and/or collection. I want to have separate instances for my personal vs. professional shots rather than fuck with tags or color dots.

i bought capture one two years ago and it is still more capable than darktable for actual photography what with the AI masking that saves literal hours and shit (maybe darktable has better tools for astro and scanning nerds that geek out over demosaicing methods lmao)

>>4489660
I love buying a lens and finding out capture one doesnt support it because its not PRO enough for the snobs at phase one?
>Oh you bought the EF 35mm… f2? Not an f1.4? Sorry, you really arent the kind of, ahem, "person" we expect to use our software. Try lightroom. Fucking pathetic broke fuck goyim. Dumbass probably just does this for fun. I dont work to please these idiots that dont even want to go pro. Ugh. Wait, is this thing still on?

>>4489604
UI is still a mess. Devs must have some form of mental illness to think that shit is usable

>>4489660
I just discovered the AI mask brush in C1. Holy fuck that thing is insane. Saves me hours.

And I discovered it only because AI masking (subject detection) didn't get the subject right ... like the first time since I upgraded to the newest version.

C1 just crushes LR and every libtard competition (lol).

>>4489662
so what? just create a custom correction profile.

>>4489604
They added yet another base curve module
>Added a new tone mapper implementation based on Blender’s AgX display transform.

>>4489604
It's garbage. I keep wanting to use Darktable and I keep going through the same loop. I install DT, I configure my directories. I realize the editing tools are still garbage and I crack Lightroom instead.
I keep trying it at least twice a year. But it never gets any better.

I've been trying to use it since I want to ditch windows, but it is not what I'd call intuitive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atBNxKHZ0ag
This young fella is getting AI masking to work on Darktable

>>4489718
Glad somebody is. The first step was to get a very specific older version of Python. Already that makes this a little flimsy to get working. I'll wait and hope for something more streamlined or perhaps even natively integrated into Darktable or a plugin.

>>4489604
i'm on 5.2 still and i hate that they changed the name filmic rgb to sigMOID, though it's a lot easier to manipulate

>>4489777
You can set the default back to filmic in settings.

>>4489780
thanks

>>4489777
>>4489780
>>4489781
I basically just baby ducked into Filmic RGB and never bothered learning Sigmoid. Any opinions or anecdotes on one vs. the other?

>>4489604
I couldn't figure out how to open raws in dark table so I went back to the proprietary software I was using before.

>>4489819
Sounds like the right choice for you.

>>4489851
Yeah it probably was. Use whatever works for you, right?

>>4489688
I wish it did. LR annoys me but there's no alternative. The subscription costs more than my 3rb LR subscription, and doesnt have the useful cloud features I actually use, and doesnt have an Android tablet app. Also last I checked it doesnt have the camera matching profiles, the C1 profile looks like the Adobe color profile on my camera just a little more punchy and saturated (in other words they both look like ass, and its the camera matching profiles that save me).

>>4489819
So this is the kind of people shitting on darktable, interesting

>>4489898
>be linux incel
>time is worth nothing
>shoot anime figurines in mom's basement
>use darktable
not everyone is like this, anon

>>4489898
It's mostly one guy who has a hateboner for free software. Rumor has it his twink bf cucked him with a GNU/Linux chad.

>>4489902
Imagine having this kind of free time

>>4489925
I'd rather go out and shoot photos with that time. But I guess alt-tabbing out of some hentai tentacle borderline pedo porn into GNOO LINOOOX DARKTABLE is easier than leaving the basement

>>4489803
In my experience, filmic is awful at highlight recovery.

>>4489819
Congratulations, you might actually succeed.

Computer “skills” are opposed to creative skills. The better someone is at using nerd software the less likely they are to make anything resembling art. Its an unspoken rule of human nature. The cognitive patterns learned from being a useless computer nerd preclude creative thought.

>>4489968
darktable is so autistic not even the autistic chartfag pixelpeepers want to use it

>>4489974
They arent autistic anon they just have macs so they can actually see how their photos look

The charts are what pc indians have to reference to understand what mac chads can simply see

never used anything but darktable, I tried rawtherspee for a little but didnt like it
its not that hard but i can see how photographers that dont actually know shit about photography would be confused
i don't think there are any worthwhile alternatives desu

>>4489994
if your program needs me to configure the ideal demosaicing pipeline for a 5 year old camera im going with the one made by programmers whose time is worth money instead

commie software always fails somewhere between the so called ethos/philosophy, the code of conduct, and the developers ego combined with the developers low functioning aspergers
>its the mit hacker way you capitalist consumer! go fork it urself! some of us actually like computers!

>>4489997
except it works with my 16 year old camera
you're so committed to your anti foss posting I'm starting to believe adobe pays you

>>4489994
Ah yes quintessential photography skills:
>framing
>composition
>configuring foss shit

>>4489978
>actually relying on shitty apple displays

>>4489997
Tbh it would be incredibly based if they intentionally made it incompatible with sony cameras.

>>4490011
No he does it for free because he got NTRd by a foss developer or so

>>4489604
I've been using sigmoid for so long it's like second nature. Supposedly AgX gives you more control, but I'll have to figure out how to use it effectively.

>>4490057
>NTRd by a foss developer
kek. foss developer chads be like
>rainbow dancer is my girl now. a mare like her needs the kind of guy who has time to read man pages.
>NEIIIIGH *farts*

>>4490154
Have you ever tried Filmic RGB?

>>4489997
Just use the default settings and the "beginner" workflow. This approximates the workflow and amount of control that LR will give you. The other settings and modules are for more advanced users who know how to edit.

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What's the deal with Darktable colors being so consistently dull, muddy and generally awful? It takes like an hour of fiddling to get anything looking even half decent. How do people continue to put up with this shit? Did they improve it in this new version? This is 4.6.1 but it's been garbage since forever so I'm not going to go to the effort to install something new if it's just the same.
Rawtherapee on the left, I wish it had a catalog view like darktable has

>>4490252
most computer nerds are fully aesthetically illiterate
those that aren’t dont really want to computer seriously without pay

so basically buy a color checker and get calibrating

>>4490252
Isn't it better for the program to give you the raw starting point for which you can calibrate the settings towards the optimal color profile instead of having the software do everything for you?

>>4490277
I don't care what it looks like on import, the problem is the processing tools all fuck up the colors. First it has no contrast so I up the contrast slider. But the contrast slider sucks out all the color from the lighter and darker parts of the image. So then I up the saturation but that makes the midtones go nuclear while the highlights are still all washed out. So then I dick around in the 4 different curves tools and they all fuck it up in different ways. So now I either spend a half hour drawing masks and applying different sliders to different parts of the image or I open it in rawtherapee, make an S in the curve, set the white balance and I'm done.

>>4490252
>darktable colors

Those are the colors your camera sensor recorded, retard. Try not shooting with a snoy

>>4490281
>it can't figure out how to use a tone curve

holy fuck kys

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>>4490283
Tone curve and camera are both fine in Rawtherapee, only Darktable is affected. Top is after import (both look bland) bottom is just tone curve and white balance. Rawtherapee shows subtle tones of green, yellow, blue, brown, etc. Darktable makes the whole image muddy brown-green. Why should I have to fight my software when it clearly wants everything to look like an ARMA screenshot?

>>4490285
show settings (which I'm sure are retarded because you don't know anything about photo editing in any software), or else I will assume that you are cherry picking an example you deliberately fucked up, which is probably the case

>>4490252
>What's the deal with Darktable colors being so consistently dull
it's software written by autists for pixel peeping retards. they have ZERO creativity. both the developers and the users. that's why they chose the "correct by numbers" approach - even if it lacks any aesthetics. if the numbers/charts say it's right then its' right for those mentally ill barely functioning retards.
use proper software like C1 or LR where people with a soul have some input to offset the autistic developers

>>4490252
>>4490281
Because instead of RTFM you complain on a Senegalese pearl diving website about it.
As they say in the workflow introduction, you need to turn on Color Balance RGB and select a preset. This module is even included in the quick access tab.
You can also make a copy of a preset and set that to auto-apply upon import.

>>4490285
These are darktable users anon. Your bad colors are technically correct. Changing them is lying. If you didnt want to select demosaicing sub-steps n sheeit why even shoot raw? Are you even autistic? In free software, every aspie knows the objective truth and all of them say the other aspies are wrong so it's a clusterfuck.

Try ansel, a fork of darktable made by an autist who has a soul.
If that still doesn't work lol pirate capture one. The only good FOSS projects are basically under the sole control of one guy

>>4490299
I'm assuming that you don't know that all the modules in Ansel are also present in DT? And that they were written for DT by the same developer? You're retarded and I hope no one seriously listens to you

>>4490295
Please tell us ONE just ONE thing that LR or C1 does that pertains to creativity that DT doesn't? Muh ai slop or arbitrary preferences which are not shared by everyone or even a majority of people not withstanding?

>>4490299
The thing is I get fine colors with Rawtherapee for editing so it's not a universal open sores issue. The only trouble is I keep my pictures sorted into folders by date so it's hard to go back and find pictures by going into each folder one by one.
>>4490300
It's telling that the Darktable shill tries to steer the conversation away from the bad colors and toward number of features. Yes it has a lot of modules but the dull colors are so persistent and hard to correct for I can only assume there is some fundamental issue with the working color space or the way it gets converted to output color space.

>>4490303
>bad colors

WTF are you talking about? I'm genuinely asking. There are no "darktable colors". DT operates in a user selected color space, whether it's sRGB, REC709 etc. You can import manufacturer ICC profiles and make your raws literally identical to SOOC jpgs. There is no such thing as "darktable colors", just colors in a certain gamut which DT accurately replicates. Do you even know what you are complaining about?

>>4490300
>auto masking is AI slop, despite saving hours on the primary creative aspect of photo editing (d&b, masking in general)
>usable colors ootb without having to manually calibrate everything from scratch has nothing to do with creativity
>camera/lens support doesnt either
>fuck sensible file management and fuck UI conventions that dont need relearned
Freetards are fucking retarded

Look at all the creative people using darktable
Oh wait
Free software is a fucking creativity black hole. Even right wing artists who pursue platonic rationalist ideals instead of marketable novelty skip over this shit lol. The mindset required to gladly relearn the basics of how programs have been expected to work since 1998 is not a mindset that has ever belonged to a creative person. You fall in with the procedural synthesis types that are only good at incrementally improving things and typically have control issues.

>>4490309
> auto masking is AI slop, despite saving hours on the primary creative aspect of photo editing (d&b, masking in general)

it is, the "ai" uses a contrast detecting algo. DT has the same one but you use your eyes instead of the ai slop. It takes 1 extra second and you can actually control the parameters of what gets masked instead of relying on the algo alone

>usable colors ootb without having to manually calibrate everything from scratch has nothing to do with creativity

You're a fucking idiot, just acknowledge that you don't know how to use the program, it's ok anon. No one else in the world seems to have this problem.

>blah blah blah

I think simply you're too stupid to use the program desu. Go play with sliders in LR. There is a huge community of people who use DT and who have figured it out, and you got filtered. Tough, we don't need or want retarded problem children

>>4490312
You’re really not worth arguing with. You’re very wrong and darktable users are super shit photographers because anyone with a vision gets filtered at the arbitrary arcane and unnecessary tasks lol. Kind of like how employed people dont use linux. Kek!

>>4490313
lel ok if you say so Picasso

>>4490312
>i-it only uses contrast detect
You talk out your ass with line 1 its all written off, sorry

>>4490317
>it does

you're an idiot and I'm sorry but it's true. How do you think it recognizes shapes? Hmmm the mysteries of the universe truly truly

>>4490318
Yes it uses contrast detect to select subjects and backgrounds even when they don’t contrast very smart you coping software nerd. Seems like you’re not smart after all. You talk out your ass and waste time reading manuals that shouldnt have to be read… image editors have had a de facto standard workflow for longer than you’ve been alive.

I recommend you either get a job or cope in silence

>>4490320
I'm not sure how to explain this to you. If it didn't contrast with the background it wouldn't be discernible even to your eye, i.e, it would be invisible. The software uses an algo to detect the contrasting edges like your eye does. Does that make more sense to you? I can hardly believe this needs to be said.

>>4490320
you fail to comprehend that in order to be one thing, a thing can't simultaneously be another, and you think your faggy software can somehow do the impossible. You don't even understand what it is that you're typing. As I stated before, you've been filtered from intelligent society by your negroid IQ. Have fun pushing sliders around in lightroom.

>Freetard will die on this hill
>he ACTUALLY thinks he is intelligent for wasting his time conforming to the poorly written manual of some shitty program
>he ACTUALLY thinks AI object detection is the same as photoshop CS4s magic wand tool
lmfao

exactly the kind of fucking retard who thinks he's smart because he uses arch linux, but finds every excuse to avoid doing anything that actually requires intelligence (ie: getting a job)

>>4490303
>>4490298

>>4490304
>see you have to select a color space
>import ICC profiles
>re-order development modules (because the order of modules is significant to the processing pipeline)
>accept that shitty colors are not shitty because they're realistic
>what do you mean with "in C1 I just click "import" and it work"? THOSE ARE FALSE COLORS THEY MIGHT LOOK GOOD BUT THEYRE THE WRONG COLORS REEEEE MY AUTISM HURTS
the turdtable experience

>>4490312
>you can actually control the parameters of what gets masked
the freeturd mind: when creative software has to look like a 1980 HiFi tower. YOU JUST NEED ALL THOSE PARAMETER KNOBS TO DIAL IN ALL THE SHIT THAT OTHER SOFTWARE DOES WITH ONE CLICK THATS THE FREETARD WAY

>>4490325
>>he ACTUALLY thinks AI object detection is the same as photoshop CS4s magic wand tool
>lmfao
that's because freetards live in the past. their tech experience is lagging 20 years behind. just look at freetard UIs. no wonder this idiot thinks that AI masking is just an "evil capitalist marketing rebrand of magic wand" kek
it's telling that even manufacturer supplied RAW processing software is more usable than turdtable. and manufacturer software sucks ass.

Dude got cucked so hard he now triple posts... reminds me of poopco back in the days

>>4490348
>getting this worked up on behalf of *corporation*


big yikes, imagine being a paid shill on 4chong of all places

I don't understand any of you spergs.
Regardless of the software you use, you're paying with it in one way or another.
Any software you name has pros and cons. I mean any software, not just RAW editors. Name one piece of software that is flawless in every way.
What a werid fucking hill to die on anons. You should all feel ashamed. It's software not a god damn softtocracy

>>4490353
>Name one piece of software that is flawless in every way

arch linux

which I use btw

>>4490352
>corporation: offers you tool that saves hours of work for reasonable price
>freetard: offers you shit that takes hours from your life to make it work. the price? your sanity and you have to listen to commie bullshit

>>4490354
you're not wrong. I despise turdtable but all my linoox maschines run arch btw

>>4490304

Meanwhile Lightroom just works correctly without any of this autistic bullshit.

>>4490377
Anon, these are all things you CAN do. As far as what you MUST do to have a colorful, contrasty, and well exposed image:

>import
>open in darkroom
>export JPG with your preferred size


The sigmoid tone mapper which is enabled by default will automatically create an image which is already quite close to your camera's JPG output. The additional modules are for users who understand photo editing and desire more control and options - read; not you

>>4490385
Fake news, you generally must turn on a color balance RGB preset too, or set it to turn on automation

They made captcha easier again lol

>>4490389
*automatically

And me dumber ig

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look, I want to discuss the new tone compressor, not babysit paypigs trying to cope with their SaaS remorse

>>4490385
Sigmoid? Is that a rare type of sped?

>>4490392
>we added a new contrast slider wooee
>good programs suck. imagine spending money!
get a job lol

>>4490389
This is literally not true, though you can use CB RGB to increase saturation, color grade, change contrast, etc

>>4490393
> "Sigmoid" refers to an S-shaped curve or structure

this is the kind of fucking literal retard that is arguing against DT

S shaped curve? No idea what that has to do with tone mapping? Yeah maybe consider killing yourself

>>4490393
>le omg the thing is actually called what it is and not unga bunga shekelmator ~plus AI~*TM* brought to you by ungdobe

>>4490397

Photoshop had curves 30 years ago, why is open sores so far behind?

>>4490399
not sure why it matters to you given you don't even know what a curve is for

>>4490397
>you need to have a degree in computer science and/or math to edit your photos in turdtable
>why do you prefer proprietary software?
>THATS NOT FAIR

>boasting about your lack of basic intelligence
do paypigs really?

>>4490401
bro if you seriously don't understand why a tone mapper would use an s-curve you seriously need to stop posting ITT right now

>>4490401
it's hilarious, I thought the LR users prefer LR over DT because they're stupid was a meme but you are actually proof positive. You really don't know anything about RAW editing and you can only push sliders around and make monkey noises at the results they surprise you with. Absolutely incredible.

>>4490401
> and it was at that moment that the lightroom shil realized that he had fucked up

>>4490406
Post your terrible, flat turdtable processed images anon.

>>4490411
let's play a fun game haha. I am DT shill. I also have a lifetime license for capture one. I prefer using darktable. I will post an image and you tell me if you can tell which RAW editor I used to process it <3

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>>4490411
let's start here. Processed on what?

>>4490405
>>4490406
>>4490409
samefag freetard incel

>>4490412
>lies
you can't afford a license that's why you use some shit 3rd rate freeware

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>>4490416
uh oh looks like someone's retarded

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>>4490415
who the fuck are you even talking to, freak

>i spent 15 hours figuring out darktable and now you cant tell i did
>did i just not want to use masking on these blown highlights or did i get sick of using darktables magic wand select? you will never know!
weird flex but ok
gettin m43 shill vibes
>*misses focus, max iso, shaky hands* tell sensor size

>>4490404
>actually, wasting time reading documentation for poor implementations that are contrary to the defacto standard requires intelligence
Anyone can read
The question is does anyone want to when real software costs essentially nothing and is much more convenient, and not just in that way

>>4490417
>apsc baby sensor camera
>windows
>LOOK I HAVE MONEY I JUST LOVE THE POOR PERSON LIFESTYLE

>>4490425
>samefag freetard incel schizo knows how to delete cookies
wow you've proven me wrong

>>4490413
Let's play the fun game where a turdtable user takes a good photo first. What the fuck is this anon?

good to know majority of /p/ users is technically illiterate who like to blame anything but their own skills

>>4490505
there's a whole board dedicated to time wasting perma virgins: /g/

>>4490507
translation: I am too retarded to spend 10 minutes on a getting started tutorial and look down on everyone able to use a simple piece of software that was too complicated to me

here's my dt workflow, maybe it will help someone:
1. enable denoise (profiled) and lens correction
2. use crop and rotate modules if needed
3. set exposure by clicking the eye dropper symbol and drawing a rectangle over your subject, it will automatically set exposure so your subject is close to middle grey. do manual adjustments, if needed.
4. set white balance via color calibration, if needed. use the eye dropper and draw a rectangle on a neutral white or grey part. I rarely have to do this, since I try to get white balance right in camera.
5. in AgX, click on auto tune levels
6. now activate color balance RGB, set global vibrance to 20-50%.

Now you have a solid starting point and can make further adjustments to taste. I suggest continuing dialing in your contrast and colors in color balance RGB. You can also copy this module 1 or more times and use masks to work on specific parts of the image.

All this shouldn't take more than a couple minutes. I can see how dt can be confusing at first, since there are so many modules. once you know which ones to use, it's easier.

>>4490508
or: I'd rather use software that isn't retarded

>>4490510
>i don't get anything right in camera
lol turdtablers are really just nophoto freetards

>>4490512
translation: I am too retarded to spend 10 minutes on a getting started tutorial and look down on everyone able to use a simple piece of software that was too complicated to me

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holy based macOS! it even auto-highlights the "move to trash" option for you :)

>>4490515
you should also throw your mac into the bin

>>4490513
jpg-shooter anon, what are you doing in this thread about a RAW developer?

>>4490516
lemme guess: i should get a gentoo linoox box instead?

>>4490517
sorry if you don't even get your exposure right then you're a fucking retard

>>4490510
>2. use crop
Seems early on a crop, unless you're very sure how you want it. Sometimes that's closer to the last step I do.
>3. set exposure by clicking the eye dropper symbol and drawing a rectangle over your subject
I tend to do this by hand by gut feel. Often I make adjustments throughout anyway.
>5. in AgX
I have to play with this yet.

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>>4490520
>I tend to do this by hand by gut feel. Often I make adjustments throughout anyway.
fair enough
I've been playing with setting the subject to middle grey and then using a tone mapper so I get all the technical adjustments done and have the image prepared for creative adjustments, essentially dividing development into a 2-step process
but it's really just the workflow that makes sense to me personally at the moment

>>4490519
>he doesn't underexpose to protect the highlights

>>4490518
use whatever your gay ass likes using

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i mainly use dt for converting film negative scans, which is pretty easy.
i've tried it for digital photos but i haven't learned how to get anything close to the sooc jpegs

I use ACDSee Ultimate 2026. It's $100 during their holiday sale going on right now. Seems like pretty good software.

>>4490522
>i've tried it for digital photos but i haven't learned how to get anything close to the sooc jpegs
the workflow posted earlier should get you there
what's important to understand is that by default the contrast and colors are pretty flat and you need to use color balance RGB to get it to look right

>>4490525
yeah i usually crank chroma and saturation to get it in the ballpark. hadn't tried going that high on vibrance so maybe that'll get me the rest of the way there for colors. but the biggest issue for me is chromatic aberration. none of the modules i've tried seem to get rid of it, and even destroy my colors and textures anyways. idk what AgX is. does that help with CA?

>>4490521
>>he doesn't underexpose to protect the highlights
loooooooool protect the highlights ... yeah I need them details in street lamps and shit
holy fuck I swear this board is as bad as boomer forums

>>4490520
>crop
I hope he meant straightening out the horizon. Not cropping to a new perspective. But on this board you never know lol

>>4490529
AgX is the new tone mapper that got released with 5.4. It's like a combination of sigmoid and filmic.
Handling CA is tough and I don't have lots of practice but you could use an instance of color equalizer (or any module that lets you do HSV adjustments), create a parametric mask, isolating the specific tones of the aberrations, and then desaturate them until they disappear.

>>4490530
it's all depended on the situation but your small nigger brain can't grasp that

>>4490531
I meant actual crop lol
I don't do it often and usually it's cropping to other aspect ratios. For head shots I often go for a more square ratio, for example.

>>4490417
>Z50
Why is it that Z50 users are always the biggest retards of the board?

Alright lads there's a new major module on the table now. I'm going to be honest, when Sigmoid became the default earlier this year, I didn't hear any compelling reasons to switch to it. Now that AgX is a third tone mapping module, there's another reason to bring up discussion on the fundamentals.

Is it best to learn just one after trying all three?
Should I know how to use each one for specific types of shots?
Can anyone describe concrete, testable differences in outputs? Can you post an example if so?
Are there any more tone mappers (or similar) I should be aware of?
I feel like the Tone Equalizer has been a saving grace for fine tuning tone where I needed it. How should I be thinking about using a tone mapper vs. Tone Equalizer?

>>4490619
Sigmoid is the simplest one but from what I heard it struggles with high-contrast shots. That's where Filmic comes in, more parameters, easier to get to work with difficult material. AgX is a combination of those 2. Should have mentioned, Sigmoid came after Filmic and had smoother results where Filmic could look harsh. I personally always used Filmic, because for me it worked with every kind of image.
AgX is a bit of a combination of Sigmoid and Filmic, smoother than Filmic but more options than Sigmoid.

tl;dr: just focus on getting familiar with AgX, really no reason to use the others now. Watch Boris' video about it, will teach you everything you need to know.

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>>4490619
Also, about Tone Equalizer: It's for use in conjunction with a tone mapper, and it goes before in in the processing chain. I don't always use it, it's for targeting specific tones and brightening or darkening it. It is based on the zone system, read up on that if you aren't familiar with it and it will make a lot more sense because it's not quite like a regular tone curve. It's one of the modules I'd really miss, if I were forced to use something like LR.

tl;dr: A tone mapper is for mapping the high dynamic range of photos to a regular screen. Tone Equalizer is for adjusting specific zones, making them lighter or darker.

>>4489692
After they already tried making base curve deprecated and forcing everyone into sigmoid (bad defaults) or filmic rgb (ostensibly better but annoying as fuck)? There are so many tools in Darktable that all do the same goddamn thing and still lead to users wondering why all the sunsets are salmon colored.

>>4489803
>>4489944
1. turn off filmic
2. turn off sigmoid
3. turn on base curve, pick whatever option looks nice even if it doesn't match your camera
4. this is the magic sauce: in base curve, change the 'preserve color' option (or whatever it's called, the actual name escapes me and it ISN'T IN THE DOCUMENTATION) from whatever the default is to 'none'
5. if you get errors about multiple settings adjusting white balance etc, turn the offending shit off and use the standalone white balance/color/exposure/etc settings like you would in a sane editor
base curve works great as a starting point (and if you care about exact color accuracy matching stuff you won't be using freeware) but they keep adding new replacements for it because freeware devs are always trying to reinvent the wheel.

>>4490385
Does Sigmoid still come with default settings so safeguarded against overexposure that anything close to white is turned into light grey?

>>4490664
>5. if you get errors about multiple settings adjusting white balance etc, turn the offending shit off and use the standalone white balance/color/exposure/etc settings like you would in a sane editor
>base curve works great as a starting point (and if you care about exact color accuracy matching stuff you won't be using freeware) but they keep adding new replacements for it because freeware devs are always trying to reinvent the wheel.

No, if you get that warning you should initialize the white balance and color calibration module and then correct the white balance in color calibration, if whites aren't neutral.

Base Curve really isn't great because it's part of the old display-referred workflow. This means it works with less data and does irrecoverable damage to your dynamic range and will be less smooth and struggle with images with lots of dynamic range. It is very simple to use though. Compared to the newer tone mappers I get flatter looking images but maybe that's a look you want.

I feel like the actual Darktable dev is posting here.

>>4490672
>>4490664
Behold the consequences of freetard ideology (tanks fur de contribs / we need moar choice!). Heccin liberty! No wonder they’re all trannies. Why limit yourself to one gender either?

There is only one right answer. You do not need all these conflicting options for demosaicing and color mapping.

Everything else the user needs is in the standard sliders everyone uses, fucking rgbl curves tool and an eyedropper+set h/l range+hsl slider tool

>>4490688
>we will consider deprecating the broken shit in 2 more versions
Its because as shown by the incompetent asshats in the GNOME team, they lack the intelligence and foresight to make any good decisions so they default to piling on conflicting shit. Every FOSS project is like this because they dont allow tyrants like Steve Jobs, per their self pwning CoCs

>>4490688
>>4490689
Would you fuck off already.

>>4490691
Try ansel. Its like darktable but not retarded

>>4490689
most FREETARD projects are what I call feminized software. men build hierarchies to achieve a goal. every man has a part he's responsible for (and can be blamed if it sucks).
most FREETURD projects dont have hierarchies. it's the feminine modus operandi: no one is responsible for anything, no one can be blamed for anything, no one cares about anything - everyone can dumb their shit and they be better praised by the others or the feelings get hurt (which would be a catastrophe)
thus you end up with the total trash heap that is most "creative" freeturd software. darktable, audacity, gimp, etc ...
the only freetard projects that get any successful either have a strong hierarchy, corporate funding or both

>>4490692
Not him but last time I tried Ansel I had it just crash after creating some files in an undisclosed location, had to uninstall it, had to manually delete files, had to hunt for an older version, and once I had the thing working it was sluggish as shit. I genuinely think there's no Ansel users, just people who hate Darktable and are acting as though recommending the fork done by some disgruntled dev is funny

>>4489803
slider, it's a slider, it's ok. I like it much easier to use though like I said

>>4491546
sigmoid -25 seems to be a good magic point