I have never created a piece of art that I like. I never came back to anything I did months later and thought to myself "hey, this is neat".I can't use my hands to create shit. I can draw geometric shapes. I have nice handwriting. I can play open chords and bar chords on guitar. But that's where my physical skill set ends.I picked up a camera because my hands are no good. Only to realize that it's probably not my hands, it's my brain. I have little to no visual imagination. I can memorize rules that make photos look more pleasing, but I can not get beyond that in terms of intent with my photos.Over the last ten years, I resigned to the realization that I can't create anything because I have nothing to say. I have no personality. I have no opinions. I have no stories. Just things I point my camera at.
Don't be so hard on yourself, anon.
reminder, the most hated poster on /p/, the biggest autistic (genuine aspergers autistic) gearfag specs theory fag there is, has produced at least 2 good photos despite being one of the three dog fags stuck in gearfaggotry rabbit holesthese niggas are gearfagging 24/7. doghair even owns a medium format digital he bought JUST to post test shots and btfo fool framers. and they still produced some memorable photos. of their dogs.in fact, doghair produced THREE memorable photos. this, the egg in a bone dress, and his dog watching an eagle. that's 3x more than huscuck (window forest overlay husky) and corgcuck (that time he photographed a womans ass)maybe your problem is you're literally taking photos of dirt
>>4495973Aimless photography is rarely rewarding. My advice would be to work on what you recognize as your weakness. Creativity or vision. It's a muscle like any other and yours is clearly very weak, but it can become strengthened with consistent practice.You can work on your creativity in a lot of different ways. One way that has worked well for me is to stick with a single subject or object to be your main photographic subject. Pick something you like that is readily accessible and/or always on hand like an egg for example. Work on creating images with your chosen subject instead of just taking pictures of them. You have understanding of photographic principles so use those to guide you. Spend the majority of your time setting up your shot rather than pressing the shutter button.Don't give up hope bro.>>4495983Aside from you saying I've taken some nice pics I think your biggest compliment is that I've somehow outdone the likes of canon, cinefag, and the sony shills to become the most hated poster. Thanks!
>>4495973to sum up your efforts: you tried to produce work that others admire instead of what you enjoyjust take erotic photos and tasteful nudes at least your friends won't have to pretend to be interested in your portfolio
>>4495973You haven't failed enough yet then. It's like 99% failure 1% genuine success. You have to keep doing it and accept the fact that you may never succeed.
>>4495983>the most hated poster on /p/>sinarfagPhew!
>>4495973The biggest test of if you have creativity is to open notepad and write a one page story.See the thing with writing is you cannot use any excuse about your gear or needing to buy something.You also cannot make any excuse about living in a boring place, or just living in a boring era of time.With writing you can create anything, in any time period. You have zero excuses.If even with the ultimate freedom to do anything, you cannot even write a one page story or figure what to write about its time to sell your camera and all your photography gear. Creative hobbies are just not for you.
>>4495998Is your husky okay? You haven’t posted her in a while
>>4495989We like the sony shills here. They’re the only rational posters since they recommend cameras that are just good, small and affordable instead of contrarian memes. Sony is the #1 full frame brand in the world.
>>4496026>Sony shill trying to derail another thread.That's why everyone hates you guys lol
>>4495973I'm glad some people are finally understanding that cameras are tools for creating media, and not some funko pop that gives meaning to your life. The cargo cult of consumers who just buy whatever product of the month currently trending YouTubers are shilling and think it's going to give them attention and validation is very sad. Have something to say or show FIRST. You cannot find meaning or get the attention you actually want by randomly taking photos of scenes you encounter on the sidewalk outside your home.
>>4496030You make it sound so grand when really it just means.. doing better than taking photos of dirt and brick walls
>>4495983>>4496033Subject has nothing to do with it... as long as you have a good reason for shooting that subject.
>>4496033brainlet consumer cope I'm afraid
>>4496035Shalom or merci
>>4496033This is one of the more retarded takes, I think. There are plenty of photos out there, many on this board right now, that are aesthetically pleasing and completely worthless at the same time. I would go as far as to say that an aesthetically pleasing image is worthless in nine out of ten cases.
>>4496025>huskyNot mine, closest I've been to having a husky was looking at buying a Husqvarna 2 stroke. I have no purpose for a dog, maybe I'd have some Cane Corso if I went hog hunting.
>>4496047>aesthetically pleasing and completely worthless at the same time.Oxymoron
>>4496075To an art-conscious mind, meaningless aesthetic is about as damaging as heroin to a junkie. It’s not only worthless, it’s a mind killer.
>>4496047What are some examples of worthwhile photos?
>>4496082NTA, but there's already two good examples in this thread.
>>4496085There are no good examples in this thread. A worthwhile photo makes you physically ill when you look at it.
>>4496086Well the two photos are of dogs. One is taken on high contrast film and printed in a dark(dork)room. The other is an extremely blurry picture of a dog taken on a digishit camera. Both of those pictures will produce extreme discomfort and/or physical illness in at least some people regularly posting on /p/.
>>4496089Yeah extreme discomfort in their pants
>>4495973Go to Church, anon
There is no implicit value to anything. You have to choose the things you value. Your pictures will never have implicit value. Nobody's does. You can choose to value them though, after all you've kept them around for this long. One must imagine sisyphus snapshitting.
I call my pictures pics because I feel they're mediocre and don't warrant being called photos or photographs
>>4496287For me, it's A or B A is for not bad it tells one or two things. B is for oh there's some rando and a street lamp.
>>4496047>aesthetically pleasing and completely worthless at the same time.You don't know how humanity have been selecting fresh berries from mold ones.Aestheticism itself has a function.
>>4495973i like the colors in this. what camera did you use?
>>4496023writing a purely open choice one page story is dumb and no one has done that since high schoolpeople who want to write already write about what they want and people who don't will be overwhelmed by the openness
>>4496435I would suggest putting your camera up for sale as soon as possible.You sound like the type of person who brings his camera when he walks around the block and takes photos but would be completely overwhelmed if he had to think up something original thing to photograph.
>>4496030TRVKE
>>4496089I've done plenty even blurrier dog snaps while walking the dog. Happy nausea and discomfort for conniseurs.
>>4496445>conniseursMy bad, connoisseurs
>>4496436Or maybe he doesnt have anything to write that would fit on one pageMaybe, and this is common, he doesnt like prose
>>4496023this is probably the basedest /p/ post of all time and its no surprise its barely being acknowledged considering the average quality and tone of posts in this board
>>4496075Your intellectual peer is Nicki Minaj, fuck off
>>4496513>implying her handlers didn't make her say that to discredit the rational Moon landing skeptics>implying they won't double down and make her adhere to flat earth bullshit to further latch that retardation to Moon skepticism and further discredit it
>>4496445That's a cool picture. I'd print and frame it as ART.
>>4496512>>4496030Yup. Notice all the stupid le ironic dog posting the retarded geeks are trying to do to drown these posts out. It's their ineffectual way to cope with their many wasted years and dollars on the hobby with nothing to show for it.
>>4496541Well lets see it then. Show us your le heckin worthwhile photograph mr super serious pants.
>>4496541>ITS....DUH DOGSit's probably not but dogs are definitely more artistic than any leica brand rep jewslop "with something to say" you like>I PHOTOGRAPHED... UGLY BLACK PEOPLE! I'M "SAYING SOMETHING"!Ugh.jews can't make art, they can't define art, they can only make degenerate mockeries of gods creation because they hate Him so they redefine art as a lowly game of charades and make it all about their verbal IQ (the only IQ they have that isn't 1/3-1/2 SD below average), thus the real art becomes the critique of increasingly opaque charadesonly aryans can make True Art and in dogCHADS we see this, honoring the beauty of God's creation with deeply sentimental photos>inb4 but a jew redefined art to include his ugly degenerate shit and another jew appointed him the art expert!no one cares. go back to epstein island ya freak.>inb4 a jew got an honorary nonaryan to make ugly jewish "art"no one cares he can go back to epstein island along with youjews are ontologically evil and all jewish "philosophy" and "thought" is wrong by default. the sole function of their culture is to redefine evil as good to trick god. from the day a jew can read, he is educated in the talmud, a big book of case law wherein jews of the past sumrise they have successfully tricked god so long as god behaves consistently with what they believe is his word as if it were a modern legal text.
>>4496542>>4496543oooof all that cope. Yep, they got hurt hehe. Sucks to suck I guess?
>>4496545What's it like to share tastes and philosphy with epstein and the rothschilds?>creating beauty?>no goy, art is about "saying something"
>>4496543I think he's just autistic as well. You can tell when an angry poster is autistic because they don't understand or have the capability to understand that sentimental photographs like ones of a beloved dog that only lives for a decade plus or minus a few years have much more value than any picture of a random building corner or people's backs. Not so much value to other people as a singular photograph, but a wegman-esque series absolutely has potential for greater appeal and value in a general artistic sense if the photos are well taken.>>4496545My photos have been posted and referenced in this thread by another anon completely out of the blue. My time and money is not wasted enjoying a hobby I love and taking pictures I think are important to take as best as I can.There is no cope or anger. Im simply asking to see what you got after such a strangely aggressive and weirdly tone deaf claim. Reading your post makes me think you probably have some amazing super artistic images you could share to own all the dirty dog posters.
>>4496541>twisting people's words into your autistic obsession>>4496543>derailing discussion into muh joozthis is why most of you faggots will remain losers forever, I better leave this shithole while I still can
>>4496549You don't find it humorous?
>>4496547>>4496548>>4496549oh dear oh dear. so much cope at their little funko hobby being called out. a 12 year old girl with a iphone 7 who has an idea for what she wants to shoot is a better photographer than you lot, stumbling around the side walk taking shot of fences and other inane shit on a "photo walk" lmfaooh btw? I didn't read any of yours ; )
Oh it's just a really bad troll. Feels like I've read that exact post before. How boring... There is at least some unintentional irony in the trolls posts that is amusing. They seem to have a certain determination to be more worthless than even the blurriest dog picture. Kek.
>>4495973This is pure depression coping. Art is art, put soul into it and if it doesn't make sense, try again. This is how every artist feels (that isn't a fag), and the mind will always put up road blocks. The way that you seperate yourself from this is to accept that not everything you make will be a success.
>>4496556 hahah you funko collecting gearfags are so funny. Enjoy spending 5 hours a day combing through test charts so you can figure out which camera and lens is really going to allow you to "make it" as a photographer I guess? It's so weird you don't get how transparent people like you are to actual artists.
>>4496860>spends multiple days coming up with the most brain dead reply possible.I don't even shoot digital, big dog. You are a very bad troll kek.
>>4496862Odd projection. Also hilarious you are one of those muh analog copers who thinks film is anything but a crutch, they are the biggest funko collectors of them all.
>>4496862>>4496867You are both pathetic but for different reasons. Quit being a pair of faggots over little things. Actually, you >>4496860 are slightly worse if only because of your shitty deflection on gear was unprovoked and you just needed an excuse to talk about it like a woman would.
>>4496868His posting habits are very feminine. It's pretty funny.
>>4496888>he doesn't realize I've been copying his own posting styleYou really are dim, aren't you? Hilarious. Also funny that you attribute your sad consumer funkoism as "masculine" versus people who use cameras as tools to create their art. Notice how dead this board is, hoss? Everyone's waking up, except copers like you.
>>4496862>>4496868>>4496888Obvious samefag, btw. Might want to work on mixing your punctuation use up a bit next time ; )
>double post of seethe and copeKek
>>4496860I just end up doing that cause I'm stuck in the office with nothing else to do
>>4496974Why not study art or something interesting that will help you improve your snapshitting?
>>4496967TRVKE
>samefag meltdownEven bigger kek.
I just want to take some pictures that's allI don't know why people make it so complicated or so importantI also hide subliminal messages in there because I know someone looks at them and I want to remind them and maybe fuck with them
>>4496975I do that too. I like to keep a diversified portfolio of schizophrenic interests.
>>4496574Based
>>4496023That is an apt test for someone wanting to do narrative cinema, not stills photography. A better test would be to recreate an scene from some text. To act for a moment like an AI for some scene from a novel that acts as a prompt. You can paint it or make the photograph after arranging the scene in real life. Painting requires skill but no props.
>>4495973>>4496023or maybe creativity is not innate and you need to train it like any other skill. A good way to do that is to get inspired and imitate until you find your style.OP, what are you favorite photographs / photos?
>>4497207>A good way to do that is to get inspired and imitate until you find your style.k3k
>>4497207only 15% of students in the usa have critical thinking skills. the rest will never be able to do them no matter. it is even less for creative skills. if u cant do it innately ur just never gonna be more than a snap shitter or cargo cultist. truth hurts.
>>4497213>>4497214> if you're not innately good you should give upSo, tell me, are you both innately good, or did you give up? If innately good please post photos.
>>4497217Innately good yes, and no I don't want associated with this shit hole. There is no reward and too much risk because you psychos doxx anyone for making you feel bad about gay little funko hobby.
>>4497218Many talented photographers made and are still making photo threads here, nobody "doxxed" them since they are not hiding their identity. If this place is a shithole it's because of trolls like you telling beginners they should give up if they are not "innately good". I doubt this is the behavior of someone that is accomplished with photography.
>>4497229>Many talented photographers made and are still making photo threads herepost 1
>>4497217Who are you quoting?All I'm saying is that you should approach photography like you would approach painting. Not riff off some circlejerked jew that the (((tastemakers))) put on a pedestal. The photographic eye is developed by creating, not by imitating.
>>4497217In fact, if you feel the drive to rip something off (essentially to do a remake) it's healthy to suppress that. It's saved me from making derivative slop countless times. The gear trap is often a cause of this. There's a slick use of a prism filter in a 70s Italian horror that's photographically themed, I nearly remade that before I realized what I was doing. I ended up stopping myself from getting my hands on the filter because deep down I knew I was merely aping, not creating. If I come up with a good enough reason to use the effect I will. Until then, no way.
>>4497230Alex Burke>>4497233Setting aside the jew schizo posting, I agree that trying to mimic an esthetic through gear alone is consumer logic (although, to each his own, it might work as a gateway for some). What I mean is that it would be foolish to expect anyone to do great photo, or any great art, if they aren't passionate with the media and inspired by some masters.
>>4497236American boomerism says that if you cant succeed starting from dirt you dont deserve to anywaysCinefags autism against learning from others is pretty close to boomers exhanging their kids inheritance for more foreign vacations and saying “work harder you fucking slob”This created a talent vacuum and a wealth vacuum, unavoidably.
>>4497236>Alex BurkeHas not posted here in over 5 years. Try again.
Dead hobby, dead board.
>>4497283Photography is not a hobby. Just as buying car tools or pencils are not hobbies. You use photography to supplement your actual hobbies.This is the truth for the 99%. This is also why half the board is just people walking around taking "test shots" or ""street"" """photography"""" because they dont have anything interesting to do with their lives. So they walk around, camera in-hand trying to find any excuse to press the shutter button. Then the board ends up with entire threads of random uninteresting building corners, the back of people's heads (because engaging with people is scarwy), or random puddles.
>>4497284With assholes like you no wonder people lost their passion and gave up. Let people enjoy things they love.
>>4497315>hit the nail on the head with this one champ
>>4497284You make a good point why you should leave the board forever
>>4497284Pretty spot on. /p/ is essentially a worthless board outside of a few threads (birds, macro, and insta shares) now because no one here does any real photography. All the people here do is randomly snap walls, puddles and benches while walking to the bodega and defend objectively bad(ly overpriced) (or just bad and ill suited for real life) cameras like micro four thirds, fujifilm and snoy (and DSLRs) from their deserved haters, and all that gear defense comes from the perspective of people who snap walls puddles and benches and think walls puddles and benches are what most anyone is going to use their camera for anyways. I believe the wall puddle bench people actually have aspergers because normal person shit like friends pets and kids doesnt register to them as a high priority or worth considering when selecting a camera or picking one up to use, and they actually seem to think wall/puddle/bench snaps and backs of heads are high minded artistic workI see strong indications that many actual pros have come and gone and they’ve been repelled by these “vibing” puddle snappers when they inevitably got into an argument over how bad fujifilm cameras are for being $2000 equipment or how no, DSLRs are not just as good or better, take that loud pos out with your friends and kill the mood, mirrorless is better
>>4497323And /vid/. /vid/ actually makes things sometimes. Most of /p/ is community college art class NPCs tho>i am standing at an angle to an angular building!>heccin lighting and composition bro>this is what really liking photography looks like. sorry you dont like photography.
>>4497323>>4497284"photowalk" photography and autists weird awkward, shuffling, skulking idea of what enjoying photography is (apparently 1:1 aped from the way snappiness and other gear-tuber present their """content""") is the cancer killing not just /p/ but photography itself>landscape photography before covid shutins got into photography via gear-tubers:>i aim to seek out natural beauty. i know the spots. i know where the sun is this time of year. i'm heading out to the best vantage point to catch the light and i'm going to get exactly the photo i want out of it one way or another.>stops down to f11, brackets, turns camera a few times, creates 50mp photo that looks so natural it was like it was pulled from a memory>equipment: canon 5d mark II, 24-105 f4 L>landscape photography after covid shutins got into photography via gear-tubers:>i'm going to walk around the park and take photos of stuff and hopefully something is good. >oh man this photo turned out like shit. i need a camera with better IBIS! my sensor's shadow recovery isn't good enough, shadow recovery is very important! i need to spend hours figuring out ISO invariance and ONLY buy the most ISO invariant cameras to protect my highlights! i need a lens that's sharp corner to corner by f5.6! this field curvature is pissing me off! i should have listened to what PROs do and brought a zoom so i could get better compositions! UGH!>oh my fucking god everything looks bad. i blame THE COLOR SCIENCE! AGH! TOO MUCH! I need a fujifilm and a 35mm equivalent prime!>*fast forward 6 months&>well i'm no ansel adams but my crushed blacks every sunset really get the likes
>>4497284>>4497323Is there such a thing as a photocels?
>>4495973>I can draw geometric shapes. I have nice handwriting.This is a form of art. Abstract art and calligraphy.
>>4495983>maybe your problem is you're literally taking photos of dirt>>4496033>You make it sound so grand when really it just means.. doing better than taking photos of dirt and brick wallsNothing wrong with taking photos of those things.
I'm probably a better photographer than 95% of people on this board. No, I will not post photos. You can take photos of whatever you want with whatever gear you want; it doesn't matter unless it helps or hinders in attaining your vision. Individual photos can be mediocre but add to a set in a way no other photo could, but you still need to able to produce individually strong photos. Photography can be an artform, but that's above the /p/aygrade of most here.You don't need to post photos because thruth speaks without them.
>>4497545Post photo or your entire claim is invalid. I'm a much better photographer than you and no I won't post any because truth speaks without them.
>>4497545>I'm probably a better photographer than 95% of people on this boardevery time someone says they're great but won't post i'm almost 100% certain its fucking huskyfagit always co-occurs with his usual takes.lotta ego for a mediocre freelance event photog
>>4497548Nice shot.
