Color doesn't matter. Today when you can adjust colors just by pressing a button there's nothing more fake than a color. You should only shot B&W. Black and White photography is real and pure. Shape, shadow and light - this is what makes your photography look special, not some bright oversaturation. If your picture looks good without colors then your picture is worthy
wrong, I like colored lights at night and colored objects shot with flash.But otherwise black and white is pretty cool too.
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>>4502479>Color doesn't matter.Lol, the latest cope for snoyboys
>>4502486boring picture>>4502488good picture
>>4502479Explains why nobody shoots color
>>4502503Who for example?
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>>4502506cool photo Adrian James
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even some of the best photographers in the world also belive this https://youtu.be/j_ySV7O91LA?t=69so if you realized all of this by yourself then you're an artist
I want to buy the GRIVm to replace my Nikon Z. Because there are those phases where I really can't figure out a good color setting. Especially at weird lights in nature. There is always something off. The greens, etc. And then I still export and I'm unhappy everytime I see the image. With the Ricoh I could easily crank up the ISO and still get beautiful sharp photos. And no need to color correct anything. On the other hand color photos overshadow my lack of composition and slapping those vsco presets on them make them look neat too. AND i have a little kid and I'm afraid that someday I bite my ass for only having b&W pictures of him. And my wife gets angry everytime I send her an b&w photo.
b&w digital photos are the ugliest shit known to man. if you use a snapshit and open lightroom to make them black and white so they look artsy you are scum under my shoe.
>>4507214what if you use a monochrome sensor?
Bw shooters look like THAT!!!?
>>4507187nikon allows you to set a color profile for the jpegs, i've had mine outputting them in b&w for years. you can more or less built a lut and load it in
>>4507281Where can I find good presets for Nikon? Is this the only website https://nikonpc.com/Was it made by Nikon itself?
>>4507303don't know, it's been a long time since i dicked around with it and i don't use presetsyeah that webpage looks familiar, don't know who runs itcheck forums
>>4502479>controls contrast like a bossfuck your fake ass nigga and cracka photog!
>>4502479big if true
Can someone explain to me the appeal of B&W photography? I'm really trying hard even shot a month of B&W only but I get bored of it so quick. I think color and color gradients add so much to photos making them much more alive, interesting and pleasing to look at. While B&W always have this depressing look to them, more far from reality. Just imagine being on a tropical island with amazing blue water and vivid plants and you lose all the color information.
>>4508463It prevents the photohtapher from going full ken rockwell
>>4508463If something adds to a photo, you should keep it in, if it doesn't, you should leave it out. Applies to color as well.There are plenty of scenes where colors don't meaningfully add to the photo, or even are a distraction.Sometimes you might have really beautiful colors and trick yourself into thinking a photo is good when it's really just a mediocre photo with good colors.Absence of color can shift more emphasis to other things like form, texture, contrast, etc.>Just imagine being on a tropical island with amazing blue water and vivid plants and you lose all the color information.Just imagine being a place with nothing but ugly and distracting colors around you.
>>4508463it's not hard if you like art
>>4508465Our savior also shoots b&w though, nearly all photo boomers have the adams influence
>>4508474his bw film work is not good at all, but its his best 4 sure
>>4508474I'd think it's nicer something more like this
>>4502479>You should only shot B&W.based and true
>>4507187unironically I think the GRIVm might be the best and only usable GR camera. because with black and white the joke of ricoh color science, the absolute failure that is rico's AWB and the retarded amount of grain with any ISO above 160 dont matter at all.I thought about getting the GRIVm myself too, but then I realized I can just set my iPhone to monochrome and get better results. so yeah
>>4508463you're just gay, but that's okjust keep enjoying colors
>>4508528Divorce status?
>>4508531I got a sailboat and left photography pretty much behind. It's liberating - just experiencing the moment and not being forced to take photos.
>>4508463Shoot for light contrast and it won't look boring.If you shoot boring flat subjects then it's going to look bad. Which is where colour can help by bringing attention to your subject.
>>4508529>iPhone to monochrome and get better resultsI'm not much into specs and all but is this really true? Talking even outside on iphone sized screens. Whenever I look at iphone photos on my 4k monitor they seem rather bad. But I have the iphone 13 which is kinda old already.But the ricoh sensor is still quite bigger isn't it
>>4509235>is this really trueof course not, phones are inherently bottom barrel, they get truckloads of shilling since they are by far the most profitable dogshit ever and spies on you with over 7 ais now, also that there fake res via ai upscalinghttps://fstoppers.com/gear/real-future-photography-computational-not-optical-712081
>>4509235No matter how many megapixels phones have - you start zooming or just view the image on anything bigger than a phone and it starts falling apart really fast.
Even with a red filter to make the bark stand out, I still did a shitload of dodging and burning. I do like the colored version, but I couldn't resist.
>>4508463you're absolutely right to be skepticalcolour is king and brings life to a photoblack-and-white photography is the first port of call for students and dilettantes to flaunt their artistic prowess because, as you say, it makes everything seem depressing... and all good art is, of course, sad.having said that, my editing workflow would be kneecapped and crippled without a luminance-only view. tonality matters, it's just not the only thing that matters.
>>4510687Embarassing post.
>>4508463>Can someone explain to me the appeal of B&W photography?If you fuck up your colour photo, often you can salvage it by turning it into artsy and tasteful B&W photo. Distracting red shirts are a woe no more. The noise looks like grain. You can emphasize the contrast in lighting, composition and geometry in your photo by ripping the colour off of itThat being said, have any /p/eeps here tried Lippmann plates to capture real colours?
>>4510709lies, the color of what you shoot matters either way as does the contrast and quality of light on target. you clearly haven't fucked up enough photos
>>4510741Thanks for the kind words but I fuck up at least 2/3rds of the pictures I take. You can always try different colour filters on B&W and play with the curves. Agreed about the quality of the light tho
My autism tries to steer away from taking b&w photos because it makes almost everything look better, which I find takes away from the challenge of getting a good shot
>>4511055Do you also avoid certain lighting scenarios for similar reasons?
>>4511056I wouldn't say that. I do like some challenge, but I'm not going for the extreme or anything of that sort
I'm a b&w enjoyer these days. I hope it's not just a phase. I'm thinking of trading in my Leica Q2 for the Q2 Monochrom. The normal Q2 is really bad in low light, the noise is pretty bad. Also the white balance is always off. With the mono I could easily shoot in dark places without worrying about noise at all. Sh..should I?I also have another camera system in case I need some color.
>>4511538I like my M10-M a lot, don't plan on ever selling.Great high ISO performance of course, but the pixel peeping is unreal. Looks better than the Foveon and GFX I've used at a pixel level.Can also take inspo from the Gorsky thread and make some trichromes
>>4502479Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and yours stinks as much as everyone else's.
>>4508529Um, Ricoh GR1 bros...our response?
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I do not fucking understand how a GR IVm can cost $3000 AUD when for that price you could get very deep into any Canon or Nikon ecosystem with a full frame camera and several high performance lenses. Yeah, I understand the economics of scale and all that but what the fuck, I just want a FF mono sensor camera that doesn't cost more than some pro setups.Like, the M11 Mono gives some honestly fantastic photos, but there is zero chance I'm going to spend $10,000 on a camera.>inb4 poorfagNah, there should just be options that exist at the same price point of more common bayer-bullshit camera segments.
>>4513300It's that expensive yet sold out for months. Still the cheapest mono camera you can get currently. And high-iso it performs better than any Canon/Nikon cam. The Q2 Mono on the used market is the better deal though. I see some close to 3000€, not sure how much that is in AUD. But that give you a full frame mono sensor with lots of crop potential and great build quality. Personally, waiting for a GRIVx mono with the 40mm focal length. Mono is just such a niche market that they can price it however they want.
>>4513300Photographers are stupid and will pay thousands extra to pixel peep their saturation -100 photos slightly better, even if its aps-c and they’re not getting any resolution and sharpness an ff with 5 more megapixels wouldn’t blow out of the water
>>4513300When the only competition is $$$ LEICA $$$, well…
>>4513300Ricohs are a rip off imo. I'm not that big into compact cameras but you could just get a Panasonic Lumix or even an old Sony A6400 with a pancake lens and you'd have a better camera than the Ricoh for not even half the money.
>>4507187>my nikon z> There is always something off. The greens, etcYou can use literally any brand other than olympus to escape color science hell. Some cameras just never get it right every time even with professionally calibrated profiles, like the any olympus, sony a7riii and nikon Zs.
>>4513384>to escape color science hellHasselblad is the only choice to escape from the question of colour.They are the only one that gives you the colour that you've seen with your eyes
>>4513492How on earth would they be able to do that?
>>4513492>a-actually only hasselblad has good color! j-just forget about canon! just forget about good color you cant afford it! spend hours fixing ni-con color instead!nice cope nikek
>>4513509you give them so much money that your eyes start to cope automatically
>>4513378>Panasonic Lumix or even an old Sony A6400 with a pancake lensEnjoy throwing the a6400 in your pants pocket with that rubber eyecup and an attached lens. And good luck finding a smallish or pancake lens that can compete with the sharpness of the Ricoh. That's the deal with the GRs. They deliver great image quality, better than any fuji apsc, yet they still fit into your pockets. There is no competition at all that's why they are successful and sell tons of cameras.
>>4513814>yet they still fit into your pocketsI'm just glad I'm not so autistic that this is such a #1 priority
>>4502479>color doesn't matterNew mirrorlesscuck jew cope just dropped
>>4513814>yet they still fit into your pocketsunless you're a skinny jean wearing faggot, none of those other cameras will have an issue going into a pocket.
>>4502479is this the bnw bread?postan
