I think it's neat. Finally not a re-release of something or gimped to make room for something new.
Panasonic you son of a bitch, you did it. Took them long enough to release something interesting for m43 again
>>4508975I dont get it. Hows this a different concept from ghe LX100 that came out 12 years ago?
>>4508975>Finally not a re-release of somethingBut it's just an updated LX100/II, bigger too
>>4508986Yeah I had the impression that it is bigger from the videos I saw which really confirms what I have been thinking for a while which is that everything is getting bigger and it being impossible to squeeze more tech into smaller bodies.
>>4508982>something interesting for m43 againit's not m4/3, sweaty, it's a 4/3 sensor but fixed lens."m4/3" is the interchangeable mount.
>>4508975>Are we impressed?No. If it was something crazy like a 16-70mm i would be impressed. This is just a standard point and shoot digicam with a $1500 price tag because ???
bravo to panasonic for releasing this without gimmicky dials (like art filter on pen-f, film sim dials, etc), not even any scene modes on main dialMASP/Auto/Cx is solid, I appreciate appealing to enthusiasts
>>4509007I'd be sold on it if it had a joystick.
>>4509004>This is just a standard point and shoot digicam with a $1500 price tag because ???4/3 size sensor?Significantly cheaper than Fuji's similar offerings (which are APS-C)
>>45090114/3 sensors are almost a quarter of a century old. Isnt tech supposed to get cheaper? Are camera sensors the new RAM now?
i might actually buy it, growing up is accepting that you don't need full frame and accepting that this camera is good enough for social media.>>4509014it has ram in it
>>4509016Nobody actually >needs< foolframe
>>4509016>Buy costly high megapixel camera capable of recording in 8k>upload footage/photos on social media>Compression that would be reasonable over a decade ago is still in place because gotta maximize the profits>Footage/photo ends up looking like crap
>>4508975Fuck man, I've had my LX100 forever, it's the one camera I'll never sell. Love it to bits. This upgrade is long awaited. They didn't fuck with the secret sauce, they just boosted the meaningful stats. Will eventually buy it when my lx100 dies. Yes you'll get dust on your sensor. Yes it's just micro 4/3 but the sensor is well known to perform just fine in low light. >>4509018Great point desu. Social media crushes the fuck out of any image you upload. If you print, it does matter, and I do encourage people to print.
>>4509014The sensors have certainly advanced.From 5MP CCDto 25MP BSI CMOSAnd probably so has the cost efficiency of making the sensors.I think the main problem is that the market for dedicated compact cameras is only a fraction of what it was 20 years ago due to smartphones. Volume in mass production is where the savings happen. I think we can only expect prices to increase as dedicated cameras become more and more niche.
>>4508975impressive. canon needs to release the rumored photo version of powershot v1 within the week or I'm ordering this
>>4509011>>4509004A Foolji doesn't come with a Leica(tm) lens.
>>4509091More like a (Leic a) dust pump, but OK. The Panaleica digicam zooms are all prone to this in my experience. Wonder if they improved it on this camera because surely it is a known issue, question is if it is possible to improve.
Why would any enthusiast buy a camera with a fixed lens? Maybe I am just retarded and tasteless but surely just putting a regular mount would not be such a huge compromise right?
>>4509170Have you looked at the size of comparable M43 midrange zooms? I'm not sure there even any that are faster than f2.8, like this is on the wide endThis is more like a better RX100
>>4509145just give it a little suck suck
>>4508975>4/3 sensor>no ibis??? the whole benefit of having an ant-sized sensor is being able to put superior stabilization that allows longer exposure to compensate for its potential loss in quality under low light condition. But instead they went with antiquated dogshit ois of last century? This camera has lost the plot
>>4509211Lens based IS has always been better than sensor based IS that are always more ineffective. What aggressive marketing tricked you into thinking otherwise?
>>4509224Yet in testing, the stabilization for this L10 is far worse than the IBIS even on an old model like the GX85, so clearly the OIS is not good enough to offset the lack of IBIS. Making this negligibly bigger to include their latest miniaturized IBIS (if Fuji can do it in the X100, Panasonic who have always been the best at IBIS and had plenty of old small bodies with it can do it even better) alongside OIS would have been beyond worth it. It would've also increased the appeal for run and gun video zoomers.
>>4509021The problem is the free market. The price is what companies can convince people to pay and to be frank most people “into photography” are clueless and susceptible to cheesy marketing tactics like paying off youtubers (also see: nikon) and product placement deals. Canon has been scamming people by selling gimped plastic styled as professionals cameras forever. Now retro styling has joined the scam.
