>>4516712
Trading it for a canon r6ii, 24-105 f4, and some cash for flashes and strobes

Professionally, leicas are useless. Leica has to astroturf nepotism kids and hasbeens portfolios to make it look like people actually still use them. A very vain client might ask for you to use one if you have it. And expect it to be film. Digital leicas are more likely to break in the middle of a job than any other brand so maybe don’t use it for work and get a real leica (vintage film leica).

>>4516712
The same way you use any other camera, take photos that are worth someone paying you for.
There are plenty of examples of pros using a Q2 in the field.

If you think the camera is an excuse not to succeed, you were never going to make it.

>>4516716
Soloing a 28mm PNS is always a specific project for established pros with enough reputation to secure a diversity of client requests/open mindedness. It’s not something you just do because you have a camera.

A lot of pros who do use leicas can only do so because they already established themselves using actual professional cameras and then secured a brand ambassador endorsement from leica later. Otherwise you’re just a dentist with a shitty camera that doesn’t have decent/any autofocus.

>>4516715
>Trading it for a canon r6ii, 24-105 f4, and some cash for flashes and strobes

OP here. Well, if i would sell it, i'd rather get a 5dmk2 or 3 in a good condition and ef 24-105 and invest remain money for other stuff in various area.

>>4516716
>take photos that are worth someone paying you for.
This anon >>4516718 nailed my concern.
>Soloing a 28mm PNS is always a specific project for established pros with enough reputation to secure a diversity of client requests/open mindedness. It’s not something you just do because you have a camera.

I find myself is quite comfortable with 28mm, but do i have a style which can attract buyers? That's a different question and probably the most important one.

>>4516722
>but do i have a style which can attract buyers?
If you have to ask, no. At least you've identified the real issue though.

>>4516722
Buyers dgaf about your “style”.
It’s business.

Reality is the bane of the idealistic gearfagging.
>Can you do X?
>No I only have a prime (thinking: because im an artist not a gearfag… ugh… i literally just escaped canony blob boomer zoom hell give me a break… tasteless normies dont appreciate creativity and stylistic themes)
>Ok. Bye! Firstname Lastname photography has a huge selection of cameras and lenses maybe you can borrow some like his until you can afford to build your business ;)

>>4516712
>Except selling it.
renting it.

>>4516722
>Well, if i would sell it, i'd rather get a 5dmk2
Based, and you would have heaps left over for lenses and flashes. 5D2 is one of the best cameras ever made, and maybe the most reliable ILC digital ever. It's really lacking in AF compared to modern cameras though so be careful of that. Not to say its AF is bad, but technology has come a long way.

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>>4516725
>Buyers dgaf about your “style”.
>It’s business.

Exactly. That's why i concern about the matter of style.
There are tons of other photographers who take product and portrait photos with white or black background. How can i shove my head into that field heavily saturated as fuck?

If you were a marketing personal would you take an unnecessary risk of hiring a new product photographer or just keep having your trusty photographer worked together for years?

I'm not talking about the style of snapshitters filters or preset. But some sort of format of expressions that can be the main image or feeling of my work.


>>4516802
>It's really lacking in AF compared to modern cameras though so be careful of that. Not to say its AF is bad, but technology has come a long way.
Since Q2's AF sucks that won't matter to me probably.

Actually, i'm thinking about bringing a technical camera.
5d2+cambo+ some 40~90mm lenses and a tripod would be a good budget system.

>>4516712
Selling it.

>>4516822
You just need to put your head in the mind of your client. Who is that client? What are they after? Most importantly, why should they go with you?

Consistency, reliability, and time management are really important for long term recurring work.

Do you have a decent portfolio yet?

>>4516822
>Since Q2's AF sucks that won't matter to me probably.
One big thing that makes people think that DSLR = slow autofocus are stepper motor lenses. When the camera aquires focus, slow stepper motor lenses delay the time it takes to set the lens to that focus, and they're also quite loud. If you use USM (ultasonic motor) lenses, the AF is much faster. Ultrasonic motor lenses usually have full time MF overide too, which is nice. At least the canon ones do. You don't realise how good that shit is until you use something like a Tokina 17mm atx which takes like 30 seconds to switch into manual focus.

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>>4516848
>Do you have a decent portfolio yet?
Of cause not.

Again, what i'm wondering is what kind of products i can bring on my portfolio just by a 28mm only.
Street portraits? Environmental portraits? Le street candid photos (These are what i take mostly but who would buy these shit even)? I don't think product photos are not ideal candidates.

>>4516956
If you really have to ask what you can shoot with a 28mm only and make money, you probably need more experience.

Photojournalism and reportage for events, like eddyvanwessel.com
Band shows and BTS for comedy shows, like lizabethviggiano.com
Lifestyle and editorial type portraits, like behance.net/andrejosselin
Landscapes, or street like eatenbyflowers.com
It's plenty enough for any kind of more casual family portrait sessions too, don't forget you're still 30mp at 35mm equiv and 15mp at 50mm.

More examples
https://kristiandowling.com/blog/2019/9/30/leica-q2-professional-evaluation
https://gingerbeardweddings.com/leica-q3-camera/

I'd have 0 problem shooting lots of different paid work with only a Q2, you shouldn't either.

>>4516969
Marketing and product shots is a good use of it too
fixed link
https://www.elizabethviggiano.com/

>>4516969
Believing you can still enter pro work with just a PNS is like believing you can still be a rock star with just a guitar. After all, taylor swift did! Skill issue bro! Oh and she’s an heiress to 3 generations of bank presidents and her dad bought the record label before she got famous.

All of these people were either self established by doing the legwork and doing what people asked for before doing “their thing” (ala “hendrix was a backing band kid before he was the frontman”) or are rich kids with rich parents and rich friends who bought them a totally undeserved career their shitty sidewalk snapshits simply do not justify (like stephen shore, winogrand, etc).

I know you’re a 4chan gear-asperger and like to get attached to weird pseudo-ascetic idiocy about how gear doesnt matter and everything is skill (false) or only gear matters and nothing is skill (false) but reality is here, and you need to check it

Professional photography is a service industry
It is 80% customer service and human relations
It is a social game far before it is an artistic pursuit
People do not seek you out because they adore your style. That doesn’t happen. Talent scouts don’t waste their time if they don’t know your father.
You have to give people what they ask for to earn your reputation, or buy your reputation.

You could do this with a 5dii, kit zoom, and $30 strobes you found on craigslist for senior engagement etc portraits or the newest sony for run and gun weddings. But you still have to do it. And when you do it you have to set your pride aside and never ever make an excuse like “but this is a leica q, it cant do that, and thats lame anyways bokeh bad or whatever”.

>>4516976
>crab bucket cope
Sad life you must live to write all that out just to tell someone they can't do something, when they easily could
Most pros started on something far worse than a Q2, I sure did

I hope you get happier and your life improves friend

>>4516978
Oh it’s corgifaggot. Of course.

Yes telling people that getting started in professional photography requires starting from the bottom if you don’t have a network to exceed your net worth is crab bucket. No.
No, you washed up former “pro”, it’s advice. What the fuck is crab bucket about noting than a $500 decade old photography kit can get your foot in the door and start building a reputation and client list today?
Is it better to tell people to just be themselves and hope the talent scout gods favor them?

I’m sorry your wedding shot on primes didn’t work out. Maybe in the future you’ll stick the kit zoom and a godox transmitter to your zf and start taking more diverse work again.

>>4516982
you told a leica fanboy that the best way to get started in pro photography is with an affordable versatile camera, strobes, and good relationships with clients instead of artist larp and gear snobbery. that’s more offensive than most racial slurs. if you called him a double nigger he’d be less offended.

>>4516976
this is 100% true. even a $250 nikon d7xxx is even enough to start doing real professional work. a leica q is not. it’s an ok camera for hobby/art but professionals don’t do that to start. they do that after finishing. you don’t need style op, you need happy customers who can vouch for you.

with the money you make you can buy nicer work gear and keep your gayca as a personal machine that sees occasional work use (ie: not having to worry about having 28mm on your work setup)

>>4516969
Love those sites, any more that you enjoy most? (any focal length)

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>>4516969
Thanks for your effort posting. Nice links

>>4516976
>All of these people were either self established by doing the legwork and doing what people asked for before doing “their thing”
But is it really impossible to build a legwork with a 28mm only?
I presume 28mm takes barely like 5% of total market share when focal length range is concerned, let's say 24~200mm though.

>Professional photography is a service industry
>It is 80% customer service and human relations
>It is a social game far before it is an artistic pursuit
Cannot be true more.


>People do not seek you out because they adore your style.
I've emphasized "style" in the thread not because i want to 'express muh art', just because using 28mm only is so niche, i have to (i think so) establish a fingerprint or authenticity that can be derived from 28mm.

I've always thought photography isn't and shouldn't be treated as an art anyway. It's a visual documentary.

>>4517005
> But is it really impossible to build a legwork with a 28mm only?
yes
maybe if you live in NY or something there are so many people you can scrounge up a real client portfolio
but even them someone is going to expect you to be able to do more, and being able to do more increases your client base

versatile cameras are cheap. they are just ugly and not fun to edc. but, they are literally made for work and work only which is why they are ugly ergo blobs and they excel at work.

you also could use a good local print shop you can go to when people want wall art, vinyl wraps and yard signs and a fast turnaround time
start getting used to editing your photos for print

>>4516712
>>4517005

I work as a photojournalist using a Q3 28. Built up a whole portfolio at 28mm before incorporating a more standard 24-70 and/or 70-200 into my toolset. 28 is very hard for covering certain events and I very rarely take it out as my only body for work any more. If you're trying to justify a Q purchase for work - don't. There are cheaper and more appropriate options.

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