I want to start a /p/ monthly, or tri-monthly, photo competition where the prize is actually desirable and relevant to photography: film rolls. Of course, they’ll be cheap, readily-available film stock like Ultramax 400 or Gold 200, or whatever else is easy and inexpensive to get ahold of, but the problem is this: how shall voting stay honest, and how shall the winner’s address stay anonymous when I send him the prize? I don’t want the poll’s integrity to be compromised, nor the winner’s anonymity. Who has some ideas for how this could be set up?
>>4519191There is no way for voting to be 100% cheatproof unless you use trusted judges like the long time tripfriends on here could potentially be.Entrants use a tripcode for submission and then for the prize you just send crypto that would be the value of the prize.I've tried thinking about an honest way to have a competition on here and that's my best idea even if somewhat flawed.
The best way to do legitimate contests on 4chan is to do them off 4chan, agent
>>4519191All judges and participants would have to use trip for the duration of the contest. Anonymous shipping could be doable by asking the winner to make public Amazon wishlist and hide the address, that is reasonably safe.
>>4519220I like the Amazon Wishlist idea better than bitcoin prizes, because I want the winner to receive a photography-related thing. I want there to be community voting more than judges. Would a system of voting where you have to input your trip tag from the competition thread work to reduce or eliminate trolling? What I’m suggesting is you would have to submit a picture with a tripcode and then that would make you eligible for one vote, possibly with a second-place vote to eliminate ties. Otherwise, considering having resident tripfags as panel judges makes me shudder. There’s only one or two of them whose photography I respect. If it would make the competition possible, though, well, it’s a compromise I’m willing to make, but not unless the voting system I’m suggesting couldn’t work. I guess having the tripcode tied to the ability to vote could be abused by trolls who would snipe the code from the thread and use it to cast a vote before the user who posted a photo with that code. By tripcode, I mean the string following the !, not the actual password following the #.
>>4519191>the prize is actually desirable and relevant to photography: film rollsCan't feed film to my Z6, sorry m80, but otherwise i am down for a competition
>>4519236>implying you will win
>>4519236Put up the dosh for something better then.
On Strawpoll, there is an option to set up a poll with one vote per unique code. The codes are shared by email. If no one objects to the use of strawpoll, or knows a better service, then the poll could be set up thus: everyone who wants to participate must post a photo and they must post their photo with a unique tripcode and email address. Whatever email address you want to use is up to you. Aliases for your main email seem secure enough, something like "poll_vote_alias1@xyz.com," or if anyone knows a good service to set up a temp or burner mail conveniently.I'd send out codes at the end of the month when entries closed.Obviously, having an email up in the thread for a month or more could be a real pain in the ass for potential spam from trolls, especially if you use an alias tied to your main email.Alternatively, the polling can be restricted to one vote per IP address. I think this would be less secure than with a unique code.PGP keys can be used to encrypt the personal info of the winner, and, as far as I know, you can collect parcels from a post office or parcel locker with an alias. I need someone to come along and take the wind from my sails, though. I don't want to put anyone's privacy at risk. Anonymity is a sacred thing. What wouldn't work with this set up?
>>4519241That strawpoll + email code scheme could work, but if you're willing to trust tripcodes, why not just count up votes manually from the thread?As far as shipping: that could probably work for US participants, question is, would you be willing to ship to international posters as well, or will this be US only? If you want anyone to participate, crypto payments would make that easier, honor code that the winner uses it to buy film.
>>4519242I definitely don't want it to be US-only. I know we have Australians and British posters, as well as some from several other European countries. Just wanna put that out there. I don't even want to entertain the idea of it being restricted to the US. Maybe there is a way to leverage Amazon's global ubiquity to our favour: perhaps the winner could set up an alternate delivery address? or I could use their alternate delivery address to buy a bit of film for the winner from whichever Amazon site would be relevant (.uk, .au, etc.)>why not just count up votes manually from the thread?Honestly, that could work. obviously having a bit of money would be desirable, perhaps moreso to some people than film, but this is the photography board and I don't think it's the right kind of prize. I really want this competition to encourage anons to take more photos, both in the competing and for the winner with their film.
I reckon it could work like this:have one thread for entries, where every entry needs a tripcode. Then collect the images in an album that ideally displays them in a random order, and have a new thread for voting where people post their top 3. Then count up how many points each image gets (1st place = 3 points, 2nd place = 2 points, 3rd place = 1 point). This way everything is transparent for everyone participating. The voting could be restricted to only the tripcodes that actually posted an entry to the competitionOf course this all relies on trusting trips but I guess there's no real way around that. Also it's hard enough to post a decent entry, let alone several
>>4519245You could submit multiple pictures under different trips to get extra votes and easily cheat the system.
>>4519257It's a shame I can't imagine this not happening.
>>4519191>how shall the winner’s address stay anonymous when I send him the prize?You could email them a giftcard code or maybe they could make an Amazon wishlist (I'm pretty sure that keeps the address anonymous).>>4519243>I know we have Australians and British postersBased that we can be included. Amazon operates here, so the wishlist thing would work.>>4519257Same as any online contest really. If major companies can't stop that shit, what chance do some shitposters on /p/ have? It is what it is.
>>4519335>>4519330That's why designated judges is a better idea. Public votes are impossible to do without the risk of cheaters.
>>4519345I can't imagine designating any of the tripfags to be judges, except maybe Burt.
>>4519353Well yes, but that's just how it has to work sometimes. Maybe some other known posters could be judges as well. It could be funny to get zach, that guy that always posts deers in rpt, the dog posters, and whoever else with a posting history wants to volunteer.They would need to somehow prove their identity to establish their tripcode, but that wouldn't be too difficult.
>>4519353I've served as a judge for several local photo contests
>>4519191Sure, but it must be called The Incel Adams Award.
>>4519370Not here, you haven’t. Here, you’re nobody.
>>4519382Creative, juvenile, relevant: wish granted.
>>4519354As one of those you mention, there is a trip I have used in the past.>>4519383Well now's a great time for me to start here too then!>>4519191>they’ll be cheap, readily-available film stock like Ultramax 400 or Gold 200I have access to a pretty wide variety of stocks for fairly cheap, would be happy to contribute if I can just send to an organizer. Can probably see about some random camera related swag too, I just don't want to deal with organizing part at all.
