Next week Nikon will announce a new Z5IIC camera. This is what we know so far: Competition to the Sony a7c series Full-frame 24 MP sensor IBIS Based on the existing Nikon Z5II No viewfinder hump New video features Official announcement next weekWhat's your thoughts? Potentially great compact carry or just a parts bin camera at the end of the expeed 7s life? I'm at least excited there is a rangefinder like option outside of Sony.
If it has a viewfinder, that's it. Sony loses forever. The theory that manufacturers weren't competing with sony's top sellers (7c line) because sony was their sensor supplier is basically confirmed since nikon can now get RED's sensors.Without the 7c line being the only option most people have zero reason to buy a SNOY except for all 500 pros who want the f2 zooms and tele primes.
>>4528680>saar nii hon rumor very true! look at hype image chat gpt made
>>4528687I am guessing it won't and we are just getting an s9.
>>4528680>Full-frame 24 MP sensorI want moar.
>>4528680Fully mechanical shutterHot shoeEVFGood gripGood batteryIf something of these is missing that shit can go straight to the bin, they shouldn't make another S9
>>4528698>"good" grip>make everything a blobmera!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSwryXGTHpw
>>4528701>muh blob
>>4528680Sony sisters... this cant be happening...
>>4528701The more I read "fellow anons" posts, the more I appreciate tripfagsfunny innit
It's probably ZR body with small changes, Z5ii internals and without viewfinder to keep cost realative the same in today's semiconductor pricing, and being a Z5ii adjacent. Real hope would be that it sells enough to warrant reviving Z7 as a compact with higher MP and a viewfinder.
who gives a fuck? sony a7iii got high dynamic range and usability for photography in the top 99% percentile. everything after that has been a bee's dick of photography improvements and mostly in video and other shit most hobbyists don't care. u gear queers will never be happy because your ability to take photos suck anus. hell film is enough for almost any photographer let alone high end full frame digital. needling over tiny details of the camera is so fucking gay it's unreal lmao
>>4528721I sometimes defend sony from morons on this board, but you, friend, are the snoy shill the morons are after. Sony haters are retarded because their natural prey, the snoy fanboy, is even dumber.>nooo you can't be excited for a new compact camera that's going to be better than an a7iii>how dare you spend $1500 on a new camera>spend $1000 on a used snoy from 2016 insteadListen to yourself.
>>4528698>EVFi literaly don't give a shit, i don't think i've ever used it outside of checking how it's to use it.
>>4528721If you buy a Sony a7iii you can't shoot in anything besides a light drizzle. Plus your photos will be tinted green and that's annoying to correct in post.
>>4528732>sunlight scalds me / i sometimes have out of focus junk on the edges of my photos that i didnt notice at the time
>>4528727wtf are u talking about? u sound retarded dude. nowhere did i say go by a sony a7iii. i said that if u care about photography, its been effectively solved since the a7iii and almost every full frame since then does all u need for photography. dumb ass, ull needle at some "deal breaker" issue with any camera in existence, including this new nikon, but that is just cope because real photographers have been taking top tier shots with literally anything, even digitals before the a7iii meanwhile u cry and moan u need better. u dont, u just suck dick. facts
>>4528741cope im afraid. people have used them to take top tier shots for years. and everything after has been as good, with the same high dynamic range, but most of their improvements are in video and shit that wont matter to a hobbyist, or even a pro who is focused on stills. ur a needling little dork who cant take a good shot with anything no matter what tho so...
>>4528744Oh no, it's an indianBro take a shower
>>4528747cope by a buttblasted gear queer. bro stop spending 10+ hours a week browsing gear for your "hobby" hah
>>4528746Lol I was going to ask what your salary was for shilling for Sony but your probably actually just a NEET autist who does a corporations bidding for free. If you really believe that the Sony a7iii is weather resistant you should post a video of you putting your a7iii under the faucet for a few seconds. That is if your not a green tinted coward...
>>4528750You don't sound mentally stable.
>>4528747It's crazy that some British dickheads colonized a place a couple hundred years ago and now I have to hear stupid takes on a photography forum from someone dumb enough to be a fan boy for the company that makes PlayStation cameras. It's like the world lamest butterfly effect.
>>4528753you make adhoms because the truth hurts i guess. >>4528751>still unable to comprehend that in no way did I say buy an a7iiiretard alert. keep doubling down on gear specs though. i dont even have or use an a7iii but it was a radical improvement over the a7ii and it marked the moment MILC overtook DSLR. sorry you have no idea about the history of technological progress despite being an enormous gear queer. lmao that must be rough
>>4528756more weird racial projection and adhom attacks because you have zero retort to a truke that just exploded in your fat faggot face ; )
>>4528758>Not pluralizing MILCs and DSLRsYeah, it's indian.
>>4528761>gets butthurt over facts>tries to grammar police low effort shitposts>ur indian! ur indian! ur indian!!!this is what 4chan does to 100IQ gearqueers i guess. you still havent refuted a single thing I said btw, faggot. let's hear u cope more tho
>>4528764Take a shower
>>4528742>i don't know how to increase the screen's brightness.
>>4528759There's nothing wrong being indian little buddy. Race is a social construct anyways. The cringe is shilling for a multinational corporation. This a thread about a new Nikon camera. It's got nothing to do with your special interest. We're just excited for a compact camera that finally gets things right so we don't have to settle for a compromised PlayStation camera. I'm hoping it has an EVF but if it's got the Zr's screen that will be good too.
>>4528758If you don't post a video of your Sony's being tested for water proofing than you are obviously just shilling. If your serious about what you said then you should provide some proof. We're all reasonable people here. I think we would change our minds if we actually saw a Sony surviving brief contact with water. That is unless it's actually not that weather sealed like your saying...
>>4528766>>4528776>>4528777lmao ur still seething in here. more adhom cope. i love it keep going, faggot. and yes i do see you as a little faggot bug hehe
>>4528747>>4528761>>4528766
This Sony shill is exhausting. Could the jannies please ban this guy. He derails every thread.
>>4528778Huh I guess it's not weather sealed then. Glad I have a Nikon that I can take in the rain.
>>4528687Nobody gives a shit about EVFs at that size since they're tiny or low res anyway, calm down with the Sony sperging.>>4528698Probably lacking EVF and nobody will care (including me). Price will be the defining thing, if it's cheaper than something like a Fuji XM5 it'll sell pretty well.
I wish they got rid of that flappy screen.
>>4528688If you're too useless to reverse image search, than you're too useless for even 4chan.
>>4528778>>4528779Simply being called indian was enough to make you fly off the handle. Some jokes can never stop telling themselves, it seems.
>>4528698>they shouldn't make another S9but they will.S9s are selling like hot cakes and failing Nikon wants a piece of the action while they still have some brand name recognition.
>>4528800Reverse image search what? The image says rumors on it and is clickbait/engagement bait for some shitty camera review website
>>4528843It's also AI generated, look at the deformed text above the logo. Butlerian jihad can't come soon enough.
>>4528844Hell even the layout with the logos on the left reeks of AI-designed. I have clanker fatigue. They're using AI as a way to issue veiled threats too. >hey China we caught AI hallucinating that your ship carried nukes for Iran and stopped short of striking it but we almost targeted it, wouldn't it suck to have your ships blown up?
>>4528808S9s are literally not selling. They’ve had to slash prices to move them every time. Lumix doesn’t make good cameras. Fuckin fuji xhalfs are outselling the entire lumix brand.
>>4528851>S9s are literally not selling.For Panasonic it is wildly exceeding all expectations, it's simply because it's the cheapest most compact full frame. Nikon would be dumb not to release their own version for the low-information consumers who care more about their camera's brand name than its functionality. It won't be a better camera, but it will outsell the S9.
>>4528851Not xhalfs probably, but x100s and also Ricoh GRs, yes.
>>4528805>to make you fly off the handle>posting a meme image reply on an image board
>how can I make this about Indians
>>4528687the problem is sony makes everything else except for shuttersonly canon really is capable of doing everything in house
>>4529120canon is also using modified sony sensors. under huge nda to hide this fact
>>4528805cope. ur replying to two people as well, moron. truth hurts i guess. you can keep crying about indians by all means, faggot. it shows how incapable you are of rebutting an argument hehe
>>4529123Not sure about that exactly, but it's no secret that they use Sony sensors in a lot of their smaller cameras like the G7X II (though they don't advertise it, only a few reviews I've seen mention it using a Sony sensor).
>>4528680>24mp in the lord's year of 2026the fuck is that, a micro 4/3 sensor?
>>4529132>6000x4000 images>Not good enough I say!Also better for low-light. No idea why you need moar
>>4529140You can actually down sample to lower resolution and get almost the exact same noise performance as a lower resolution sensor.
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>>4529158I know that's a meme, but the true origins are a bit more depressing.
>>4528680Is it actually smaller or will it be like the a7c meme?
>>4529162you missed the third dimension
>>4529162The original is smaller. the v2 is noticeably fatter and lacks sovl. I returned my a7cii and went back the original before eventually ditching mirrorless entirely.
>>4529162Would be hilarious if Nikon just did a Sony and chopped off the EVF bump and tried to hype it as a new product
>>4529190I hope you're aware that Sony is the corporation that did everything in its power to take away DSLRs from people. Doing a Sony is also removing the mirror, forcing it to stay in live view, putting a second screen (the EVF) and calling it innovation.
>>4529436>innovationIt wasn't an innovation but it was a natural evolution. There is absolutely nothing a DSLR does better than a mirrorless. There was a period of time when DSLRs were better than mirrorless but that is no longer the case. Same as when LCD displays became popular but CRT was already a matured technology. These days nobody but the biggest autists use CRTs. The same goes for DSLRs.
>>4529440Displaying the real scene in the viewfinder, for starters. DSLRs also do better with AF. There's a reason the red AF assist grid from flashes works on DSLR but mirrorless needs a white led.
>>4529445>Displaying the real scene in the viewfinderI can disable exposure and color preview in my beautiful, 5.76 million dot, 0.8x magnification, 120p (240p with black frame insertion) OLED EVF for a similarly inferior experience. There is no motion blur when panning. I can't see any pixels.>DSLRs also do better with AFNow you're fucking with me. Show me a single DLSR that can do AF half as good as a last year Snoy.
>>4529445Better tell me how's shooting with slow lenses or low light situations with that optical viewfinder. Must be really fun.
>>4529445Didn't you complain last thread about others being bad faith? Yet, here you are being just as bad lolI hope the rest of the board gives up on treating you seriously or even just engaging
>>4529448DSLR has better AF where it matters, and the viewfinder has basically infinite DR unlike EVFs. What you see in an EVF isn't even enough to display the full DR of the sensor. That's why it needs the blinkies as a bandaid. >>4529450Just ask any weddingfag with a 24-70 2.8. >>4529455Not bad faith at all, I've been saying this for years.
>>4529448Also if by "as good" you mean features like animal butthole AF, then there's not much in the realm of DSLRs. If you mean looking to a target and staying there, then any mid to high end recent DSLR will do it. Meanwhile the mirror less ones like to focus hunt and even sometimes focus the background.
>>4529436I only ditched mirrorless because cameras get used and a $1000 toy is a sorry thing to fuck up/lose/get stolen. Mirrorless cameras are more useful than DSLRs by a large margin.>>4529458AF-C can be more confident on a DSLR than an early mirrorless but it will never be as accurate, not even in AF-S. >>4529456>>4529458You don't do photography or post photos, obviously. Deboonking you is just masturbatory.
>>4529461Enjoy your sharp backgrounds I guess
It's fascinating how Japs managed to convince consoomers that they need the latest "AI" tracking continuous autofocus to take snaps of their dog napping or their son sitting on a potty (don't forget to show those to his girlfriend).
>>4529471>It's fascinating how people with jobs think they "need" nicer things than me. my welfare check perfectly defines the most anyone should ever own.The fact that you own things and use an internet capable device for non-productive activities is already too much, capitalist. Jesus would want you to wander around with a walking stick and a robe and borrow everything.
>>4529456>Not bad faith at all,How long you say something for doesn't mean it isn't bad faith lol, especially when you're wrong to begin with
>>4529477>consoomer lashing outLike clockwork
>>4529477>hypocrite trying to maintain its egopoorfags are the impoverished version of suburban boomers that always need to buy a bigger boat than their neighbor, but bereft of money, must find another way to claim that their property equals their superiority.not caring is the way.
>>4529489Meant for >>4529487Consumerism: What I bought makes me better than you because (I have more money / you spent too much money)First order thinkers will struggle to understand this
>>4529491>consoomer projects
>>4529504>actual consumerist is a first order thinkerhow would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today?
>>4529456>What you see in an EVF isn't even enough to display the full DR of the sensor. That's why it needs the blinkies as a bandaid.How does seeing the full dynamic range optically help with determining what will be clipped in the exposure?
>>4529541ignore him. he's never used a decent camera in his life or done any real photography. he can't even post a pic of his cat.there's a high likelihood his gear is stolen so he's ultra paranodi about it.
Looks like it's going to be priced than a z5ii
>>4529898Priced that what?
>>4529900Less than a z5ii. I'm a retard lol