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>Read libs.
>They say the problem is the Democratic party has moved right and become Republican-lite while the Republicans have become fascists.
>Read conservatives.
>They say the problem is the Republican party has moved left and become Democratic-lite while Democrats have become commies.
Someone help me make sense of this.
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>>535550645
Only the top is correct.
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>>535550794
But that's not what conservatives say.
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>>535550645
They both suck and have become autocratic opportunists preying on the population they are supposed to serve. They do not represent us anymore, they are modern day nobility, and we are their serfs, only this time, they don't even want to protect us in a castle.

The whole "left-right" thing came about when politics consisted of open forums, literally the left and right side of the room they argued in. It was a public form anyone could watch, we don't even have that anymore, all politicial moves are made in utter secrecy.
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>>535550974
I'm extremely retarded and I don't understand what you're saying. Could you just tell me which one is correct?
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>>535551017
>Dems hate you
>Reps hate you
>Everyone hates you and wants you to die
That's it. Both parties suck, and there is a deliberate campaign on both sides to make one party look worse than the other.

>but you're a fencesitting, cowardly centrist!
No, I am an American, and I should be free to say that both parties should be abolished, because they no longer serve America, they serve themselves, and actively hate those who vote for them.
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>>535550645
People are dumb and blaming the fact that elites don't give a shit about them on 'the other tribe'.
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>>535550645
It's called a purity spiral. Most parties will start accusing their leadership of betraying the party by not rigidly adhering to certain ideologies. This is because power hungry second stringers hope to motivate the grassroots to push them into power over the current leaders.
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>>535550645
You are a nigger.
I hope that helped!
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>>535550645

You are confusing libs with lefties. Lefties are authoritarians, the opposite of liberals. Think China and the Soviet Union. For them, the libs are Republican-lite because they are extreme left.

Republicans have actually become MAGA, also authoritarians but from the right. Think Russia and Turkey.
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>>535552181
It didn't. :(
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>>535550645
Republicans are retarded. Democrats are retarded AND emotional. It is a titanic clusterfuck. Get tour road warrior cosplay kit ready to go, because you will need it for the collapse.
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>>535550645
The problem is the jews that puppeteer both parties
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>>535550645
it has been down hill since 1215
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>>535550974
>They do not represent us anymore, they are modern day nobility, and we are their serfs
This. Both sides are this.

But I'm a liberal because the left is more likely to make laws preventing nobility from just fucking serfs openly. The right is more like "Be racist, be sexist, fuck laws!" The first two are dumb, but the third is an actual problem.
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>>535553429
>the left is more likely to...
Nah, this is how they ensnare you. There is no left or right. There are however, left and right policies.
>hurrdurr what's the difference, dumbass?

False Equivalency. They have tricked the populace that you must support your party 100%, and that any deviation = betraying your side. The left and right thing came from the French Revolution, where delegates voted based on which side of the room that sat on, as a show of how generally popular an idea was. They swapped sides often, because each idea was considered on its own merit as an idea, and not some collective identity.

>TL:DR
Don't vote "conservative" or "liberal", vote based on what you believe about each issue a candidiate raises, Rep or Dem...

..not that it matters anymore, we're well beyond the point where candidiates just openly lie, promise good things, then turn around once they get in power. This leads to violent revolutions every time btw.
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men can't become women, there are only two sexes and no such thing as gender.

but universal healthcare is a good thing if done right (canada isn't doing it right, worst metrics of any universal healthcare).

what am i? right or left?
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>>535554856
i think i'm right
because there is no diversity of thought on the left, you need 100% adherence to the hive mind opinion to be left, making me right by default.
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>>535550645
It's very important to the two-party system that the parties appear to be different from each other, and so that's what they say
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>>535555239
indeed
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>>535550645
>>Read libs.
>>They say the problem is the Democratic party has moved right
No.
There's a group of leftists that became crazy lefists,
and then they fell off the left side of the table crazy.
Not the rest of the Dems move right , these 50 genders blue haired "we hate all men" crazies fell off the left side.
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>>535550645
That a black man there.
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>>535554451
>Don't vote "conservative" or "liberal", vote based on what you believe about each issue a candidiate raises, Rep or Dem...
That's what I said. Can you read?

Here's an example:

>Hey anon. Do you think a company should be legally allowed to fire an employee for reporting unsafe conditions?
Democrats typically say "no, the workplace should be safe." Republicans typically say "yes, the company should do anything it wants." There are definitely exceptions. This is a broad brush. I acknowledge that. But for the most part... Democrats champion legislation that protests people, Republicans want to protect the rich. AGAIN. There ARE Republicans who support the rights of people. But many of them think, if the person has money, they deserve to treat poorer people like shit. There are people who really believe that and vote that way. That's really the entire point I was making. But Democrats are not perfect or less corruptible. That is not my point. That is why I AGREED WITH YOU saying "both parties are nobility ruling over serfs."
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>>535555002
"Diversity of thought" on the right over things like whether pasteurization turns you autistic or merely gay
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>>535555923
it's an important debate. the truth is probably a little of both sometimes and usually neither, though more research is needed we won't get it due to how politically and ideologically captured academia is. pasteurization is important though, and allows milk to sit safely in the supermarket awaiting a customer. unpasteurized however can have important benefits, for the same reasons that can make it dangerous: bacteria. there are good bacteria and bad bacteria. and on the right i'm allowed that kind of nuance. while on the left you're not allowed to question pasteurization at all because unpasteurized is "right wing" and therefore bad and racist and literally hitler fascist evil.



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