I am gay and that is probably one of the main reasons I am a leftist.
>>535578559>Flag>GayRedundantWhy do all your trannys have curved dicks?
>>535578658why are you interested in transexuals?
>>535578746Why are you gay?
>>535579127I have no idea.
>>535579352At what age were you fist child molested?
>>535578559This goes without saying.
>>535579384Brazilian boys have that femininity that makes them rapeable almost immediately after birth.
>>535579554>>535579384I was never child molested.
>>535578559Fair enough; if you were closeted still you'd likely be a fascist, so glad you made it out m8.
>>535579667I hate to tell you but that's not true.
>>535579667Do some parasite cleansing. It's unnatural to be gay you dirty man.
>>535579127Why are you gay?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnV7xfGpWas
>>535578559Into the gulags for 8 years. The only gay allowed is lesbigay
>>535581192very funny.
>>535578559better you than met. had sex with a college blue-eyed blonde on a waterbed,while on acid & cokehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3UOkxdsh-8
>>535578559Imagine defining your whole life around sexuality and trying to shit on other's sexuality. Beasts all of you.
>>535581136post the good onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q4O5ztz92o
>>535578559theres nothing in marxism that says you have to love niggers and jews and fags quite the opposite really
>>535581879>posts a YouTube link to a song performed by an openly gay manironic
>>535578559I'm a closet fag and that's the main reason I am rightist.
>>535579667you're not even brazilian, ranjesh rapepreet
>>535578559Some daqui, pardo asqueroso.>>535582079You are brown, we get it.
People aren't born gay. People are born with a potential to become erotically invested in anything whatsoever if only they are subjected to the appropriate sequence of experiences and psychological forces. Most gay men report difficulty forming male friendships during formative years, sex abuse in childhood, an overbearing mother or a distant/abusive/mean father. It is absolutely possible for desires to wither and die like an unwatered plant, just as it is for new seeds to be planted. Moreover the overwhelming force of biological sex is to drive men towards desiring women, regardless of the male in question. Just as an alcoholic cannot get sober if he thinks "I was born with this, I cannot change it" neither can anyone who thinks they are homosexual undergo this sometimes very-difficult adjustment process back to their natural configuration. Everyone is lying to you and several of the axioms which form the basis of modern psychology are false-- the mind is not a secondary phenomenon of the brain. Historically it is very easy to determine that homosexuality in the modern sense (as well as the word itself) originate in 19th century Europe, the same century in which it was determined man is a natural animal descended from a common ancestor of apes. Since homosexuality is a political force and the universities are thoroughly corrupted by political/industrial/corporate forces, academic research questioning the consensus has been forbidden since roughly the period 1960-1990. Everyone is lying to you buddy, I'm sorry.
>>535578559you should kill your parents not take your traumas and make society pay for itdont be evil, kill your parents
>>535582046That one is longer, but more edited. I prefer the unedited version. But thanks for providing a link to it anyway.
>>535582189I simply don't feel the desire for a woman in a sexual way.Forcing it as an "unnatural phenomena" just because I am different to you, or implying it can be "fixed" somehow (have you wondered some people are bisexual or confused or simply lying?).I am homosexual and that's the way it is.
>>535582069yeah, i knowthe irony isn't lost on me,but it's the only song i knowwhose title is literally>better you than meHalford is gay but he can belt out tunes better than Pavarotti, eghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuApO9Cn33o
>>535582385>Forcing it as an "unnatural phenomena" just because I am different to you, or implying it can be "fixed" somehow is TORTUREfixed
>>535582189yeah, dudes can get used to rubbing their dick against anything, inanimate objects, animals and other dudesits just external masturbation with a weird psychological fraternization element>its not weird to jerk off together....poor guys honestly, fucked up, thats why I say they should kill their parents
>>535582385I dont give a fuck about you and your shit, just stay away from kids, freak
I'm a gay too.Did you know Hitler's best friend was gay?
Have you gotten checked for butt worms? Seems like you have nothing to lose.
>>535582457I actually feel deeply romantic attraction towards other men.It's not only about "rubbing your dick", it is an emotional phenomena linked to one's libido. I feeo the same for other men in the same way a (straight) woman does.You as a non gay should stop creating theories from your supersticious head, you are simply wrong and it affects me somehow.
>>535582600see>>535582531
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is gay, and he's definitely not left-of-center. There's also an organization for gay Republicans called Log Cabin Republicans.
>>535582582why do you guys love pseudoscience so much?isn't reality more interesting tho
>>535582641I don't care about your fake feelings towards children
>>535582728nobody gives a shit about you faggots, you be gay and keep that shit to yourself
>>535582728they suckconservative gays are too submissive in one hand and extremely narcissistic in the other.
>>535582782why make your identity fetish attraction whatever, the center of your whole life and impose unto society that we adapt to you??you fuck nigger piece of human trash, we have been here before, we tried to be "tolerant” and it end up with troonsget fucked faggots, back in the closet and shut the fuck up
>>5355828781. it is not a fetish2. I am not imposing anything, you are imposing something over me
>>535578559Which means, that political failure results in your existence being erased forever.Stupid exposure to existential risk.You will be eaten alive.
>>535582745Why not get checked for butt worms? What do you have to lose?>>535582873No evidence provided.
>>535583000take Milos Yiannopoulos as an example, he is insufferable.Gay is left.
>>535578559Yea right jew. Faggotry is a far right political and second value. There's nothing leftist about it. Far right establishment figures are gay fags. Republicans are full of fags. The fake-left ONLY started championing faggotry after they were co-opted by the right and jews, and jews are far right racist satanist extremists. Jews hate leftism and seek to silence leftism in every country they parasite in, because jews like to socially and foundationally degrade and destroy the country they're leaching in and position themselves at elitists, and they can't do that with leftism as the foundation of a society. Fake-Dems championing faggotry aligns with the exact moment they dropped literally everything politically and socially productive. Homosexuality has never, ever, been a leftist political point before in history, ever, and it's fucking stupid for it to ever be one. It does nothing for the betterment or a people or society or nation. It's random personal behavior. That's like saying you're going to champion instant ramen noodles as your political platform. It's fucking stupid.
>>535583141>Milofixed
>>535582878>rapejesh shitpreet
>>535582385>I simply don't feel the desire for a woman in a sexual way.You weren't supposed to see tens of thousands of images of naked and half-dressed men/women throughout adolescence. In normal times you would have been much better protected from adult sexuality. I can't speak for you but I know many of us are exposed to thoroughly adult ideas/images/experiences well before puberty even hits. The mind is well known to operate according to habitually ingrained behavioral patterns. When the erotic drive becomes focused on a particular thing and then reinforced with habitually seeking it out, it can cause all sexual energy to be redirected. This can be observed in porn addictions where people feel more drawn to pornographic images than actual human bodies. It's also very easy to show that sexuality will evolve to accommodate unusual settings. That is why many normally straight men experience same-sex desire in places like prisons or naval vessels on long deployments. The reason people are drawn to the "born gay" idea is that they wish to become free of the agony of guilt that comes with behavior one recognizes on some level is wrong, either morally wrong or just unnatural. I do sympathize with this agony and I have experienced it myself, so don't write me off as some close-minded asshole who doesn't know anything about this topic.Most likely you won't change your view on this until you also come to believe that change is possible, which may or may not happen and would require a lot of unique experiences and insights in order for you to connect the dots, most people never get out of this terrible vice. The price is steep: a life of loneliness that feels incomplete, and a lonely grave. It can be much worse than that even if you are into promiscuity, extreme forms of sex or mixing sex and drugs. It can turn into outright Hell.
>>535583141That's one bit of anecdotal evidence. Got any others?
>>535583182leftism is about love and freedomI think it has everything to do with being gay
>>535579352Have you ever considered just not sucking dicks?
>>535583256Lots of "weasel words" in your so-called argument. Also, we all die alone.
>>535578559>I am a narcissist decined entirely by my sexual orientation and I support democrats because they pander to me
>>535583280No it's not, and you're a jew, which means you're entirely full of shit as evidenced by this stupid ass post.
>>535583256beong gay is fineit's not a suffering, it's the oppositethe idea that it is a "deviance" is torturesome people live this torture and people like you are there to support more torture in their lives in form of pseudo-treatments and ideas that make them feel "incorrect"I am fine, this is not unnatural, it is not the same as a fetish or an actual sexual deviance. It is just the way it is
>>535578559There is a remedy for your dilemma Turn junky and die!
>>535583332I don't like sucking dicksI am still gay
>>535583410most conservatives base their identity on their race, basing in your feelings and love isn't lesser than thawhy don't you use the same criteria for racists?
>>535583532Ok have you ever just considered not having gay sex?
>>535583346>weasel wordssuch as>we all die alonemany die with their children and/or spouse surrounding their deathbed but that's taking this entirely too literally--- dying alone doesn't just mean dying in a hospital alone, it means getting old and having nobody around who has been there throughout your life, it means feeling like you don't belong anywhere or have any people that are truly "yours" etc. Technically this is an argument against promiscuity and an argument for life-long partnership with children, but gay men are known to be highly promiscuous and far less likely to marry or have "families." Families is in quotes because a household of adopted children with two sexually engaged adult men is not truly a family, it is something which tries to approximate it to varying levels of success, on the whole it is far less successful for raising and forming stable and happy children (one of the research topics now banned is comparing these outcomes)
>>535583595My identity is based on my blood relatives
>>535583607why do you care about this?
>>535583459But you are not gayGay = happyI’m gay because I’m a happy heterosexual You are homo sodomite who is miserable with your world and use sexual deviance as a coping mechanism
>>535583656this is also a huge limitationat least sexuality is about yourself, not about sticking to other people that may actually hate you
>>535583666Why do you care what I think about you?
>>535583751you are miserable
>>535583800I don't know, why do you insist I do not have sex?You could do or say anything aboit me and you chose this
>>535583774>about yourselfOk so you are just a narcissist
>>535583459>beong gay is fine>it's not a suffering, it's the oppositeDon't talk to me like I don't know gay men or the lives they lead. There is usually a season after coming out in which a person will feel at peace, content, full of joy and enjoying lots of pleasure. It can go on for ten or twenty years without any obvious negative consequences. The consequences will come, I'm not happy to report that. The consequences in this lifetime are loneliness, STDs, lost years, sexual addictions and the inability to form mature, long-term relationships.I do wish for you to have a happy and decent life regardless of anything you choose, I do not wish bad things for you.
>>535583855narcisism is not loving yourself, it is a deviance of extreme "self centered" behaviour that's actually the opposote of self care
>>535583816I’m not complaining I’m responding to your pretending something you are not by your own words
>>535583844Because it is disgusting and I don't like disgusting things in my community
>>535583903How does being gay benefit your family?
>>535583621Your post is drowning in weasel words.>You weren't supposed to>In normal times>I know many of us>The mind is well known to>it can cause>This can be observed>It's also very easy to show>why many normally straight men>Most likely you won't change your viewYou really can't see your weaseling?
>>535583869the bad things that happen to gay people is not because they are gay, but by some factor society imposes because they are gaythis can be changed without torturing people to believe they are not who they areyou are senseless
>>535583595>most conservatives base their identity on their raceEvidence?I'm conservative & am not even remotely "pure blooded".
>>535584002AIDS?
>>535578559I'm also gay but nazi after I had a very bad experience with niggers and spics But guess what we have in common is our mutual hatred for the fucking christcucks hating us so much and imposing their morality unto us and making us internalize hatred for our own sexuality due to their oppressive hatred. THEIR our main enemy, regardless of politics!!
how does leftwing politics move on from liberal idendity politics and move back to the politics of class and economics.
>>535584054ok, so you base your identity in some vaoies like race, religion, nationalityhow is that different from basing in some.natural traits you have like sexuality?people have the right to identity
>>535584105Never because it only appeals to degenerates
>>535584105I am gay and I am concerned about democratization of economyBeing concerned about class and being concernet about other types of oppression are not necessarily exclusiveSome people pretend it is in order to exclude people from the left
>>535583978I see what you mean, "weasel words" is not a term I use, in the same way I never use terms like "red herring" or "argument by authority." My mind doesn't work that way, I just read people and try to understand what they are saying and then try to figure out if I agree or disagree and why. I think it's very difficult to talk about this subject in any meaningful way while being expected to provide academic references for every idea/statement one deploys. It would be easier if you just identified the ideas you find problematic and state something to the contrary that you think will demonstrate why they are not good ideas. If you point out some specific sentences you find particularly false/dishonest/misleading then we can hone in on them and find the cause of disagreement.
>>535584116My identity is based on my internal qualities, not race/religion/nationality/whatever. I'm not a sheep. And what are "vaoies"?
>>535584211you base your idea that being gay is something that can be changed because you see homosexuality as some sort of deviancethis idea is not reality, you are being persecutive
Gay = HappyNot being a homosexual sodomiteQueer = Odd which works for this conversation Most homos are the uptight, angry, miserable lost what used to be souls before they were abused early in life that brought them to this state of madness.
>>535584307>valiesOk, your sexuality is the deepest part of yourself. It's just natural to me to identify to it and base decision based on it.People who complain about that are being mean and senseless
>>535584402>valuesFixed
>>535584002Nobody is torturing anyone. The fact that you consider certain ideas and concepts to be "torturous" is very significant. If my son determines he is gay I won't kick him out of the house and berate him. I will just tell him the truth and will go on loving him and suggest we avoid the topic, and he will interpret my lack of "acceptance" as torturing him, and he will eventually come around or cut me off, and it will all be very painful. But nobody will be torturing anyone. "It is just the way it is."
>>535584310>can be changedYou can stop having sex with men
>>535584440denying someone natural identity is psycological torture.It's denying someone sense of worth, using words of "love and acceptance" in order to disguise your discrimination.Christians love doing this
>>535578559Why are you gay?
>>535584528why stop making sex will make me less gay?you even know what sexuality is?it's something we can have without actually engagin in actual sex
>>535584611because it is the truth
>>535584618>why stop making sex will make me less gay?You won't be a sodomite and disgrace to your family
>>535584712I will still love men
>>535584310>you see homosexuality as some sort of devianceStatistically that is just true. I don't know why you are negatively charging the word deviance. Observe animals-- homosexuality is extremely rare. It is statistically not normal. The idea that people are born gay is not even widely accepted in queer studies anymore, with Foucault's theories being a notable example of non-essentialism in sexuality. It is not backed up by any scientific evidence for a genetic or phenotypic indicator. Identical twins raised in separate homes have (if I recall correctly) about 20 or 25% overlap (if one twin is gay, there is about ~20-25% chance the other twin will also be gay). That already suggests it is mostly a matter of environment. The only physiological indicators they have found are 2D:4D ratio and hair-swirl direction, both of which can be very loosely associated with a likelihood of identifying as gay. If someone could find a gay gene there is a Nobel Prize waiting for them and that has been the case for 30+ years. There is huge funding out there available for people attempting to prove the born-gay hypothesis. The truth is that "born gay" was made up in the post-WWII era by the early gay rights activists, especially after the 1990s when the push for gay marriage as a political issue took center stage in American politics, popularizing the idea. Homosexuality was removed from the DSM book in I think 1978 by committee vote. There was no new research or something like that, it was literally a vote.
>>535584753Nobody cares
>>535584561>denying someone natural identity is psycological torture.Yeah, it works both ways. It's very painful for parent and child alike. It's very sad I agree. But it's not caused by malice from either child or parent, it's not caused by an actual deliberate effort to harm. It's one of those things we all have to deal with in this crazy modern world. There are many of them. I was a hardcore leftist, self-described Marxist in my teenage years and my Pop was an Army officer, it was horrible, we made one another miserable and it never had anything to do with either of us as individuals. It was like a weird sinister force invading the house and ruining everything.
>>535584816homosexuality is natural and people are born with itfoucault is talking about social dimensions of sexuality but he is wrong not to accept people are born like thisbeing a minority isn't necessarily a sign of deviance, you are co fusing the idea of "normativity". In nature's eyes, being gay is a type of norm too.
>>535584946stop being so catastrophical
>>535584967>homosexuality is natural and people are born with itYes I understand this is your view. Stating it again doesn't accomplish anything.>foucault is talking about social dimensions of sexualityThat's actually correct, he wasn't so concerned with the biology of the phenomenon, he wished to understand it from a historical view with close attention to how ideas/terms relating to it were developed by institutions in the liberal/post-engightenment order. His argument was that such institutions operated in an economy of political power without any reference to truth or untruth, which is precisely my point. The Psychiatric institutes, the universities, the political party system, the presentation of different sexuality in media etc. are all functioning within an economy of power and only created as a byproduct of different institutional forces vying for greater control of society. You can see this in real-time in American politics where the idea of "born gay" takes hold precisely around the time the Democrats established total power over the issue of race in America. The same thing happens again after the Democrats established total power over the gay rights issue-- the trans rights movement immediately began to explode. That's because they are creating new voting blocks by deploying ideologies. Once most politicians (left or right) could be counted on to support gay marriage, it no longer served as a distinguishing characteristic that could win elections. The "Gay community" lost all of its political power precisely after gay marriage was legalized. I can speak to this in greater detail if you are interested.
>>535585454nah, yoi are dumbI hate foucault and all this post-modern bullshityou are overconplicating things in order not to see a simplier, more honest truthgays vite democrat because they are the only ones tgat slighly care about them
>>535578559The semen that you took up your mulato ass clotted your brain cells. That's the most stupid argument, you just go wherever everyone else goes because it's easier this way. Build your own ideology, fuck left or right, deixa de ser uma bixa burra e pensa.
>>535585581So is the purpose of your life to just go around fucking dudes until your die?
>>535585678you sound dumbI am left and fuck you
>>535585097We are living in very dire times, that is my perspective, that the modern world is a catastrophe. This is the direct opposite of the reigning (but falling) ideology of the Enlightenment-- that history is a force of progress and liberation. (Foucault shared this highly negative outlook). If you need more evidence for this observe the ecological crisis, the rise of techno-fuedal control, the rise of the surveillance state, the possibility of apocalyptic warfare with nuclear and other technologies... many terrible and unsolvable problems are combining and accelerating now. The social domain is also the same, it is collapsing. Relations between men and women in general are falling apart into a total sexual anarchy. The extended family has already been destroyed, now the nuclear family is being destroyed.
>>535585746who said that?
>>535585757again, you are a non-sensical catastrophistit's almost like a fetish
>>535585790Then what is the purpose of your life?What is achieved by having gay sex?
>>535585852the purpose of life is such an idiot ideawhy do you need a purpose?
>Be bi like every other high test male>Gay friends constantly ask if I regret voting for Dungle Blumpf>To a degree, but try to explain that it's because he's turned into a lapdog for Israel and not because he was really out to kill all the fags like they were saying in 2016>For some reason this never resonates and they keep saying I should be afraid that the feds who tote gay hate on /pol/ are going to roll up to my house to execute me and somehow succeed>>535583869I get what you mean (most outspoken "I'm gay btw" fag types are usually retarded) but consider this: There are just as many straight people wandering around fucking randos irresponsibly, cheating, engaging in degeneracy, etc as the fags. Moreso even. It's just not considered a problem because "they broke up because becky fucked his best friend" or "they divorced because he was fucking whores" is considered typical and not a confirmation of a preconcluded judgement like it is with gays. The real issue is there are just an always increasing amount of "bad" people regardless of sexual preference - especially now with the coordinated erasure of the nuclear family and red-team-blue-team national fracture.People look at pride garbage and think "all fags are promiscuous" without realizing that doing so is similar to going to a swinger party and thinking "wow married couples are full of infidelity". It's not the sexuality that's causing that behavior - it's the type of person attracted to that sort of event.
>>535585842The view that someone is born gay/straight and the view that society is progressing in terms of sexual liberation is related to the view that history is a force of progress and liberation. Isn't that interesting? I think it's interesting. You wouldn't expect it to come up in a discussion that is supposed to be about a medical/biological question.
>>535586032>why do you need a purposeBecause I am not a narcissistic faggot
>>535586120It’s very interesting, can you elaborate with your reasoning so we can compare notes
>>535586120humans are biopsychosocial beingsall these things are relatedyou are trying to create a difference between biology and society but it is not that true
>>535586042I've studied the AIDS epidemic a bit, interviews with gay men, journalists... It was very common in the 1980s for religious groups that wanted to help to try and promote less-promiscuous and more monogamous style relationships. I think enough time has transpired and there is enough data to demonstrate that homosexuality and promiscuity are in fact the same thing, again, this kind of research or statement has largely been banned in academia. If you say something like this and it gets published it will be the end of your career, but you cannot even publish in most instances. That includes data sets that make the point implicitly in which case, like in all fields in modern academics, you have to adjust the data. I'm sorry to say this but very nearly all gay men are in fact promiscuous. I'm talking 99.9% here. I've watched interviews with public health officials and gay men who were around during the aids epidemic, I can't remember the exact numbers but it was truly astonishing.
>>535586139the need for a purpose is actually very endemic of narcisism
>>535586032Dude, this is such a sad statement out of ignorance I don’t know what to type, even a fly has more rational guidance then you and it has about 3 braincells
>>535578559yah we know twinkletoes
>>535586702How is sacrificing your own happiness for the good of your community narcissistic?
>>535586677you sound deeply derangedpeople like you shoukd indeep be banned from expressing opinions, because they are resentment disguised as comprehensionamerica is full of that shit
>>535586702Do you even realize what you are typing? Purpose is everything it’s like saying life doesn’t matter, it’s a very empty in reality based YOLO mindset.
>>535586722the idea of purpose is just your robot wanting some data inputbreak the system
>>535586961Non reality
gay guy still hasn't told us about his father yet. wonder why?
>>535586824it is very narcisisticyou see yourself as a hero that gives up everything for god or jesus or the communitythis is disguised narcisism
>>535578559faggot
>>535587013... but what about your dad
>>535586965Thats just sad man, I feel sorry for you there is so much more to life
>>535578559i’m gay and im not a leftist at all. i’m actually a fascist. also i’m not happy about being gay, i was molested as a child and it fucked me up in the head.
>>535587077saying "I need purpose or life doesn't matter" is binary way of thinkingas I said, it is deeply robotic and tied to capitalist expectationsyou don't need a purpose to be happy
>>535587013As opposed to the selfless act of meaniless buttsex
>>535586570Imagine we have two groups of 100 people. Group A are all atheists. Group R are all religious. Now give them all the same information about a certain paranormal event, say Mothman.Then take a poll: "Do you think Mothman was related to supernatural phenomena like demons/angels?" Group A: 95% No, 5% yesGroup R: 5% No, 95% yesWhat's going on here, like the example I have given, is that the question is not actually determined by the specifics of the matter at hand. It is entirely determined by higher-order beliefs at a more general level.Most people who think history=progress+liberation will also determine that the sexual liberation was an aspect of that, and they will view all ideas coming from the sexual liberation positively. Most people who think history=decline+decadence will be more likely to view anything new or modern with suspicion, and will therefore be more suspicious of recent social movements like the sexual liberation. That's why when you argue about this shit you never get anywhere, it's because you cannot change a high order general belief like the ones above in the course of conversation. In truth it should just be a process of clarifying how general the level is where the disagreement is flowing from.
>>535587152a gay guy that wear rainbow shirts and goes to gay parades is much less narcisistic than average /pol/ poster and adolph hitler
>>535586911A fact you and I both know: Gay men have far more sex than straight men or straight women. The truth does not care about your feelings or your beliefs, sorry.
>>535587214Doubt
>>535587214a guy that gets off bumming other men and has parades about it isn't a narcissist
>>535587176the world is not a math bookanglo minds have been infested by both a bad understanding of continental philosophy + the complete senseless of pseudorational analythic thinkingyou mist get rid of this capitalism in your lifehistory is not a progress or a decline, it is just a process and can be viewed in both waysit is not related to the idea that gay people exist and love and have affection etc. stop being dense
>>535579882I think he would know if he was molested or not, lol. silly
>>535587150I don’t believe you are that detached from reality, if this is your jam you are gonna be in hell world when your looks fade like an early peaking teenager. It’s just sad hope you will find something that gives some real meaning to your life, your on a road to suicide.
>>535587244having sex is not bad or antinatural, it's your drranged mind that sees it as a perversion
>>535580118if gay is unnatural then why is gay sex/partnership evident in the animal kingdom?and who cares if something is "natural" lol you're on a computer made in a factory, none of that is natural but you still do it
>>535587444Gay sex does not produce children
>>535587434meaning is just a word you use to fit yourself in some usual boxI don't use this word, I have a purpose in things I do somehow, but I don't get too attached to that idea
>>535587534sex has evolved to more than just procreation, even dolphins have sex for pleasureit's social bonds
>>535587176Thank you for your thoughts
>>535581879blond guy or girl
>>535579667You were adult molested by marxists
>>535587726and you were molested by anime industry + naonazis who masturbate to bbc porn
>>535582059so what?
>>535587546So your a narcissist in your own words?>>535587013So in other words you dont believe what you are relaying, just go fast have fun doesn’t matter what happens after I die, you should be born in the boomer generation it would make more sense why you think like this.
>>535587919I said I was gay and leftist, this by itself gives a lot of purpose, for instance, fight agains the curruptions of both capitalism and social discrimination.I just don't care about some idealistic idea of purpose some people use to justify being mean
>>535587371Lol I agree Anglo-minds tend to be obsessively logical to the point of being dense, that is indeed our characteristic. I do not have that kind of narrow-mindedness as a general worldview, but I apply it in places where it can be used as a tool for clarification. >history is not a progress or a decline, it is just a process and can be viewed in both waysI strongly disagree but it is helpful and interesting to know your perspective on history. Most left-leaning people are deeply committed to the idea of history as progress, with utopia as the goal of history. What do you think the end of history will look like, just curious?>>535587444What's natural about placing my genitalia in the place where defecation occurs? Or in someone's mouth for that matter? Do you need running water, an enema device and lubricant to have sex? I don't. And I would never wish to perform a sex act that took dignity from myself or another person. Even if it means less exciting sex, I'm okay with that. Excitement is not the point of sex, it's something that comes along with it naturally. The point of sex is to form male-female bonds that produce the next generation of human beings. Clearly that is its biological function for all the animals. >>535587494It is exceptionally rare to observe this behavior in nature. Exceptionally. inb4 zoo penguins
>>535588108But who are you fighting for?You have no real family
>>535588138you tend to think or perform an idea of rationality that is deeply roboticproblem: you are not a robot.behind this pretentious way of thinking there is a deeply bad individual wanting to justify its own prejudices towards people and the world we love inyou are the main example of a capitalistic way of thinking and it has become the mainstream thought in america an many places influenced by capitalism, even tho youd loke to see yourself as an obscure or countercultural thinker who is despised by the academic communitysex is not only about biology tho, it has social and emotional perspectives to it and it can be related to biology but is not entirely restrained to itgay sex is not bad or degrading, there are people being used as sex slaves right now and you don't say a word about it: that's because you are the capitalist hivemind and refuse to step outzide the system and see realitygay is normal, it is ok and not a vicepeople are bad for many reasons, not because they are born with a certain sexuality
>>535588583it's funny how people who say they are christians tend to igbore everything jesus didjesus did not have a nornal family nor did he have spouse or kids, he constantly said humanity was his family
>>535582189Nobody is born straight, either. People are born with a potentially to become erotically invested in anything whatsoever if only they are subjected to the appropriate sequence of experiences and psychological forces.Most gay men report difficulty forming male friendships during puberty when they become sexually attracted to men. Truly perplexing.Most gay men do not report sex abuse in childhood, but a statistically significant number of sex abuse victims are gay. Is it causative the way you describe, causative the opposite way, or a different relationship altogether? It is hard to say, because there is not enough data. That won't stop religiously-motivated people from misrepresenting the evidence about it, though.It is possible for desires to wither and die like an unwatered plant. Moreover, the overwhelming force of an unsubstantiated claim is to drive me up a wall.Just as an alcoholic can get sober no matter what he thinks if he stops drinking, so can any televangelist pretend to have "gotten straight" on TV while sucking more dicks than a whorehouse.Everyone is lying to you and several of the axioms which form the basis of modern pseudopsychology are false -- the... wait, pseudoscience doesn't ever make any claims of its own. Instead, it just tells you to stop believing truth. Very dishonest and cowardly. Homosexuality was criminal behavior for most of human history. It cannot simultaneously not exist and be outlawed. You hold self-contradictory views.Since Christian Nationalism is a political force and the zeitgeist of online discussion is thoroughly corrupted by political/industrial/corporate forces, debate questioning unthinking contrarianism has been forbidden since roughly the period 2018-2026Everyone is lying to you buddy, I'm sorry.
>>535588694ok, enough with you pretentious pseudosciencego fuck yourself
>>535588671>said humanity was his familyNo he said believers were
>>535588583Do you people not have parents? Siblings? Friends? A community?>Erm, but direct kidsCall your parents more often, anon.
>>535588771Actually I meant to the other guy, but you are also full of shitpeople are born within a certain sexualityit has some fluidity but this is relativeyou cannot make some shit up, you can twist your logic to prove some people are bicurious or something, but gay is a natural phenomena
>>535588822jesus did not differentiate "believeers and non believers" in a deep sense of humanity, this is actually islam
>>535588771You replied to the wrong person. Consider suicide.
>>535588694I'm not a Christian Nationalist you ridiculous doofus. I don't fit into any of your boxes, my thinking is very independent of your ideologies. On a level you are entirely correct: nobody is born gay or straight. And everyone is born with the potential to develop a range of sexual desires including attractions to the same and opposite sex. Or as Gore Vidal said, everyone is born with the potential to become pansexual. (I really, really wish liberals still read Gore Vidal. Alas. Mr. Vidal, he dead.)Then we should ask: out of the range of possible human sexual behaviors, which are to be encouraged and which are to be discouraged? If you think no sex acts should be discouraged, prepare for sexual anarchy, incest, child rape and all the rest of it. Okay so we both agree certain limits need to be in place, right? Presumably like most liberal moderns you have a consent-based ethics of sex: if it is mutually consensual it is permissible. That's fine, the only problem is we don't all keep sexuality in our bedrooms. It follows us in public, especially in the age of the internet where my child is now subject to the sex acts of complete strangers. Fortunately society has not yet gone completely mad and there is an understanding that some legal regulation must occur. Is this legal regulation sufficient? Is it too heavy-handed? What principles should guide it? What is the ultimate purpose of sexuality in a society and to what extent are we responsible to the values of others? Sex in public? Dress code? Public nudity? Nudity around children? Areas where certain behaviors are to be tolerated and areas where they are not? How do we figure this huge complex mass of problems out?You HAVE to have an overarching sense of what the purpose of sexuality is in order to answer these questions. If you think the purpose is pleasure, you are going to have a hell of a time thinking at a serious level about any of these issues (if you are a serious thinker).
>>535578559You lost tranny!
Let gays be gay.We can’t help the way we turned out.
>>535589220you were wrong saying people "are not born heterosexual"sexuality is a natural phenomena, even tho it has some obscure aspects about it (yeah, nature is somewhat obscure, and this idea that nature is everything we can test and observe is limited).Science says a lot about some aspects of human bilogy, but there are things very difficult to grasp and that does not mean they are not real or important.The thing is, some people are just obscure and confuse about their identities, but most people are not, and that itself can prove sexuality is natural and immanent.
>>535588920You are not born with any sexuality. You are born with a tendency toward a certain sexuality. It can be influenced by a number of things before you reach puberty. That is the way brains work. Nature and nurture work together. Do you honestly think estrogen wouldn't make a male want to be fucked? Every human in this thread would want to be fucked if they grew up with exclusively female hormones. It is what that hormone DOES. That is its PURPOSE.Hormone washes in the womb do part of it, puberty hormones do part of it, and current hormone profile does part of it. Sexual behavior is the result of hormones.
>>535589280this idea that everyone is somewhat pansexual or bisexual is just wrongpeople who say that are generally bisexual or confused themselves and project this into everyinejohn lennon and yoko were one of these peoppleI am gay and I am 100% certain I am gay and this can't change. It has passed the test of time, I had experiences with women, etcetcI am gay and this is something I can't change and there is not heterosexual spectrum within me, some people may have but they are differentpeople are differentwhen you project your pseudologies on me it affects my dignity somehow, stop doing that
>>535588599>behind this pretentious way of thinking there is a deeply bad individual wanting to justify its own prejudices towards people and the world we love inI have not insulted your character or honesty a single time. Please do not insult mine. I try very hard to treat people with respect including LGBTQ people. But if they ask me what I think, I do not lie to them. Sadly those conversations almost always go to the same place: the person demands I give verbal affirmation of their identity. I'm sorry, I do not think transgender men are men, and I do not think people can be born gay-- that doesn't mean I hate you, treat you poorly or am an unkind person. I will NOT recite the compliance script that you are demanding I recite to you. I will NOT lie to you because it makes you feel better. If you literally cannot handle that, fine. Go to a hugbox forum.
>>535589599this fluidity ideology is wrong and somewhat harmfulthe world is not like this, people have distinct and obvious sexualities and they can be very separate and definitedo not project or use isolate cases to prove your pointsexuality can be as har as a rock in the sense of changelessness, but some people have this weird fetish of making everything appear dull and evanescent
>>535589641fuck youyou insulted me a lotyou are a piece of shit and a bad individualstop referring to me
>>535589772>>535589641sometimes people use this "fluidity" ideology to justify hatred or the fact some people do not have the right of an identotylike this idiotthis is fascism and I shouldn't expect moee from a /pol/ster ok, but I imagine some people can change their views and be more acceptable, some people just want to stay in this loop of oppression and build entire system of thought to discretic other people's livesthis is disgusting and an isult to humanity
>>535589638>I am gay and I am 100% certain I am gay and this can't change. It has passed the test of time, I had experiences with women, etcetc>I am gay and this is something I can't change and there is not heterosexual spectrum within me, some people may have but they are differentYou're repeating yourself like some kind of self-hypnotist. Read thishttps://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/desolation/gore-vidal.htmlWe have a historical record anon. It's very clear that bisexuality is far more common than exclusive homosexuality in that record. It is also very clear that bearded adult men penetrating youths was the norm in all societies we are aware of (this is another forbidden truth you are banned from saying in academia). If you want to really figure this subject out I can recommend an excellent academic work that, for me, proved the point I am arguing without a doubt.
>>535590022you are like a crazy doctor repeating youself crazy mantras trying to fix a sane personsomehow there are people who want people like you to be in the charge of thingsget away from me, you asshole
>>535590106I don't vote and I have no desire for political power or office. Calm down. You made a public thread on a website known for having alternative views, now you are upset someone is arguing from a perspective outside of the mainstream. What did you expect man, seriously? May you have a wonderful day and a good life. I have nothing against you.
>>535587423maybe he was too young to remember
>>535583256a reddit spaced post telling me how im immoralNEATpepecamera.TIFFif a government agent is reading this they are now required to dance a small jig demonstrating their abilities
>>535589280>What should we encourage or discourage?You are a Functionalist. I do not accept this line of reasoning because I do not believe it to be the purpose of society to create compliant drones. I am an American and I value individual freedom.>No sex acts should be discouragedThe law exists where it is necessary for human health and happiness. Children being raped is not comparable to two adults having sex.>Consent-based ethics of sexYes. If you have a problem with your child watching gay porn, then consider limiting your child's unrestricted Internet access. Should we not be allowed to see videos of Israeli soldiers killing innocent, third-party medics because your child needs unrestricted Internet access and violence is bad for their psyche? I think the responsibility falls upon you.>What is the ultimate purpose of sexuality in a society and to what extent are we responsible for the values of others?Good questions. I believe sex-negativity leads to more sexual assaults of minors. I believe the real problem with sex in public is that it's messy. Obscenity laws are tyrannical. Children should be socialized to know and understand adults as they will become like them quickly. They shouldn't be exploited sexually, though. It is difficult to imagine how such a society would operate, though. Perhaps our more advanced, civilized descendants will have figured it out.I think of sex with a view of symbolic interactionism. People decide what it means to them.>>535589446Estrogen makes people want to be fucked. It is the PURPOSE of it. Hormone washes in the womb are only part of your sexuality. Still, you aren't born with a sexuality, only given a tendency for developing a certain sexuality by prenatal hormones.
>>535590289the problem fascists and capitalism have with human sexuality (specifically transexuality or homosexuality) is bizarre and one of the most feaful sides of totalitarism and social violenceit appears and disguise itself as science, reason, health and justice but hides political repression and torture. you said you k ow foucalt, this is the typical form of "biopower" you are using and reproducing against me right nowyou are evil and rooted and most people are not aware of how bad things are, but I am ledtist and I am against it and maybe my purpose is to debunk frauds like you
>>535590718>you are evil and rottenfixed
>>535590001Do you know why fluidity ideology became more acceptable/predominant recently? After gay marriage was legalized in 2015, the Democrats accidentally achieved one of their most popular platform positions. I say accidental because politicians do not create platforms to write laws, they create platforms to run elections. So if you achieve a platform item it actually reduces your power in elections (same thing happened to Republicans now that Roe v. Wade finally got overturned). So they needed a way to keep appealing to the same demographic that consistently voted for gay marriage. They decided to get behind the transgender issue in order to maintain the platform position that appealed to a young, liberal demographic. As SOON as that happened, transgenderism became a front-and-center issue in electoral politics. (It was a HUGE blunder by the way, society is not even close to ready for arbitrary gender yet). That pushed ideas about fluidity, non-binary, queerness to the forefront and made the whole "born gay" debate an uninteresting memory of the 1990s. People moved on. Many intelligent people realize there is a huge contradiction between essentialism in sexual orientation and fluidity in gender. Gays went around telling everyone I was "born this way." Transgenders go around saying "I was not born this way."
>>535590678well, you are born with hormonesand hormones do not determine everything"wanting to be fucked" and all this shit is still very shallow to determine sexualitywe are born this way
>>535578559Nobody cares that you're gay. Everyone hates you because you're a faggot.
>>535590807well, gays and trans are different people and they have different life experiences, some are aloke others don'tmost gays are simply naturally gay, this is not political propaganda (milo nuthead yiannopoulos likes appealing to this idea)by reducing everuthing to politics you are fooling yourself and avoiding to see a deeper truthdemocrats and republicans can't change reality, I am not even from the us
>>535590718>maybe my purposeJust curious but where do you think human purpose comes from? Is it like a weird byproduct of the mind which is itself a product of natural selection? Do you think life is meaningless but meaning can be created by willpower? That kind of thing. Tell me about your idea of human purpose.
bottoms are dumber than women so you can literally just lie to them about anything
>>535591025human purpose depends on how you see the idea of purposewe have many purposes in life, not just onesurvival is the most primal purpose, arts and science is the other, more intricate one.I have many purposes and being left is just one side of it
>>535579554You might as well show your flag schlomo we knows it’s you
>>535584105You have been pro nigger race mixing and against western imperialism since the early days. It's ingrained into communism.You can't.
>>535578559Gay people were happier and cooler post 9/11. There was a mystery to gay people and a lot of people had gay friends. And people were more enamored by gays back then than today. It was quiet and discreet in society.Fast forward to today:Your sexuality is the mainstream ammo for globalism to reshape humanity. Your sexuality has been weaponized along with your self virtue. The ideas you have are NOT your own. You've been programmed, humiliated, and the life you live is not your own. You are a pathetic pawn in shit world. You have abandoned your family's values, social norms, and denied your purpose for someone's elses idea for perverse pleasure. 100,000 years of love stops with you.Seriously, 100000 years of love stops with you cuz your enemies who encourage your homosexuality laugh as your bloodline stops while you're not having kids.
>>535591141Okay you seem to conceive of reality as a complex arrangement of overlapping, interrelated but different systems. Is that accurate? Are these systems arranged in any kind of hierarchy? For example it was once popular to claim Physics>Chemistry>Biology>Psychology or something like that ("Chemistry is really just a consequence of Physics" etc.)Or can someone just jump around from one domain of thought with one set of rules and then over to the next as they please?
>>535584402>your sexuality is the deepest part of yourselfProjection. My life doesn't revolve around my pee-pee.
>>535584211>hurr durr i read people & then i know everything for certainNever mind. You're too dumb to know how dumb you are. You're in a downward spiral from which you will never escape.
>>535591390I believe it really depends on the person, the society they live and in the moment, really.Purpose can change, reshape itself etc.These "layers of reality" hide some unity but I have no idea of what this "bigger reality" behind everything is, some people call it "love" or god, whateverthe thing is, the world we live in is complex and it must be viewed through complex lenses. There must be an hierarchy, but I don't thing it has necessarily to be a fight against different domains (for instance "nature vs. nurture" bullshit) they basically work in a dialectical way.for me? society comes first, somehowmaybe that's why I am a leftist and not a liberal.but I see biology as art of something bigger than just mainstream science think it is (I agree with the biopsychosocial view of humanity).
>>535591602my sexuality is in my heart and brain more than in my penis
>>535591723>Never mind. You're too dumb to know how dumb you are. You're in a downward spiral from which you will never escape.There is a sense in which these statements are all entirely correct, so I can't say I disagree with you, though I have to warn you that if we adopt the sense in which it is true for me it is also true for you. >These "layers of reality" hide some unity but I have no idea of what this "bigger reality" behind everything is, some people call it "love" or god, whatever.Amazing sentence! I really do appreciate you sharing this. >for me? society comes first, somehowInteresting, I heard Zizek say "Nothing is more fundamental than society" once. I disagree with him about nearly everything but he has an interesting mind and I enjoy his take from time to time. I think he said that because he considers the self to be socially constituted and therefore everything the self thinks is a byproduct of society. Interesting take. Totally wrong in my opinion, but interesting.
>>535578559Half the right is gay too we just stfu about it.Political gays are disgusting.Just bang whoever you want, stfu about it and be a productive human.
>>535582385>I simply don't feel the desire for a woman in a sexual way.When did you start to feel the desire for cocks and men's assholes in a sexual way? Identical twin studies separated at birth have only a ~50% concordance rate (both twins end up gay). That means the gay is not definitively something you are born with. And even if a physiological predisposing factor exists, we know from these twin studies that it can easily be overcome by environmental factors. Like not being taught that poop dicking is acceptable by the public education system would be a good start.I am always curious to hear what brings a man to decide that sucking cock or digging around in another man's dirty anus would be fun to try. Because not finding women that attractive is a million miles removed from kissing dudes or swallowing cum. If there is a way to keep even a gay-predisposed twin of a gay from fagging out, that's actually very promising! It means that gay rates could be reduced back to normal levels of low single digits. And we know the opposite is also true, with zoomers fagging out at unprecedented rates. Both the twin studies data and broader population trends point to the fact that the gay is much more of a learned behavior than the LGBT lobby has been claiming.
>>535592497it's weird how people connect homosexuality with sexual acts only and forget about the other and most important side of sexuality: emotional or affections towards other peopleyou are inverting the order: you put sex first, so of course you won't have any idea of how people work or act that way.gays have gay sex for the same reason you want straight sex: because you feel the attraction first, then you proceed to have sex with soemoneif I don't like women in a sexual way, why the hell would I engage in a sexual act I don't feel pleasure with?homosexuality is natural behaviour (and even if it was only social programming, it doesnt make it less real)
>>535578559So Brazil and Spain flag are confirmed gay.
>>535592238>There is a senseMore weasel words. And the other lines you quote aren't from me or any of my posts. You truly are a sloppy thinker.
imagine spending hours debating some Brazilian teenager. the current state of /pol/ in a nutshell. hey Brazilian guy, there is no such thing as homosexuality. you're a sodomite and you'll suffer the consequences. just like all the other willing sinners out there. you get a few free passes at first, if you aren't aware of the problem. but then, once you know, the guilt will set in, and that's GOD screaming at you to stop. you should follow that.
>>535593063Oh no a stranger on the internet called me dumb, how will I ever recover. Here's a hint: if you want to be good at this, make me believe I'm dumb, don't just say it.
>>53559249750% concordance literally doesn't support your claim. That is higher than basically everything. Schizophrenia has the SAME concordance among twin studies.
>>535593136how does it feel living in a parallel reality (in other words: not living at all) because people like me exist
>>535593136Spotted the fake Christian that goes to church occasionally to express a political ideology.
>>535593216Apparently the figure ranges from 20% to 65% in studies going back to the 1990s. That's really something. It's an extremely straightforward survey questionnaire, that is one of the simplest studies you can conduct. Having a range that huge absolutely demonstrates widespread tampering with data.
>>535593281More like a recent convert, usually the most zealous.
>>535593422Schizophrenia concordance ranges from 35% to 65%. Could it be tampering? Or perhaps a range because the sample size is low?The point is that the rate is quite high. It suggests a relationship exists.
>>535578559If no one else knew that all fags are mentally ill and the mentally ill are leftists, I did.
>>535593517The recent wave of conversions to Christianity in the US among young people is, I think, driven by an increase in right wing political ideologies. I've watched one conservative podcaster after another embrace Christianity, it's certainly a trend. I would imagine, given the current state of Christianity, that there is widespread recognition that human life and human society require a religious orientation of some kind and this recognition is then channeled to the most immediate model of conversion, which is the Protestant Grahamite credo of "I accepted Jesus into my heart as my Lord and Savior" which is used to denote an authentic experience of mystical union or divine presence but which lacks any kind of doctrinal support whatsoever and then crumbles quickly in the span of a few years.
>>535593587No schizophrenic diagnostic criteria and identity are much more difficult to survey. Homosexuality is not diagnosed by a professional so all you have to ask is "do you identify as gay" whereas establishing existence of a mental illness known to be frequently resisted by those diagnosed with it, and also which has fluctuating diagnostic criteria and trends in professional practice is far, far more difficult and one would expect a wild range. It does suggest a relationship exists, no doubt. But if the number is 65% we would say that relationship is principally biological, whereas if it is 20% we would say it is principally environmental, so that range is all the way across the range of outcomes we are interested in in the first place. By comparison, pretty much nobody cares or is invested in knowing to what extent schizophrenia is biological or environmental.
>>535594002The variation of the gay analyses could be affected by observer bias or any number of other confounding factors -- including tampering. We are talking about multiple studies, here.
>>535594002>>535593765the same happens in brazil, but the evangelicals are related to poor people and there is also a huge neocatholic conservative revival amongst "more educated" peoplebith are bad, but I think the neocatholicism is way worsealso, I don't care about your discussion about gays, I am gay and I am sure this is my natureyou guys keeo doing your stupid science instead of just asking normal people how they feel about themselves and you end up creating mechanisms of oppression
>>535592891>you are inverting the order: you put sex firstLmao... hilarious coming from a member of the population statistically known for putting degenerate fucking above all else. I am not a coomer but nice projection. I've been married and had multiple long term relationships so I know all about the "emotional affection" side of the equation. And obviously that's not what 99% of faggots are doing when they are fucking 20 different other faggots a week. Statistically speaking, the last thing fags care about is "affection." My other claim is that not being attracted to women does not automatically imply the extra step of "I want to eat a dude's dirty asshole and swallow loads of cum." You can have an emotional affection for your bros without fucking them. And on the flip side, many married couples end up having very little sex but maintaining that deep emotional affection that faggots pretend to be interested in when they are at a 100-person meth-fueled piss orgy.Basically, fags should stay in the closet and at least try to be straight. As has been the norm up until very recently. Being a faggot doesn't stop someone from not acting on it. You can still have kids and lead a normal life that doesn't revolve around satisfying pee pee urges. Instead, faggots tend to make wild amounts of degenerate fucking their entire identity. And of course try to recruit kids into this degenerate meaningless lifestyle.
>>535582385>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q4O5ztz92oPeople 'feel' a "natural" desire for little kids, their sisters, dogs, etc.some little kids, unprovoked, will have a desire to torture animals. Guess what, they have defective thinking and need to be corrected. You don't just shrug and say, "Oh well, it occurred naturally" (even though there is only a <10% correlation to a genetic link ... 90% is grooming or molesting)
>>535594169Observer bias? You can control that entirely man what are you talking about. Just administer oral questionnaires with interviewers who have no clue what the study is for, or use a private written questionnaire by mail or on site.This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. People are so friggin' disingenuous with this issue. Every last thing they argue or claim is based on arriving at the pre-determined conclusion, there is not the slightest interest in knowing the actual data/truth.
>gay brains structured like those of the opposite sexhttps://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex/there are many evidence that homosexuality is a natural attraction determined during the INTRA-UTERINE brain development, following genetic, epigenetic and enviroinmental factors.There are a number of morphological traits that positively correlate with it (digit ratio (i.e. longer index finger = less testosterone,) thinness of the jaw, and some others.) This is so strong, in fact, that a computer can accurately identify a homosexual from facial topology alone 80% of the time. If homosexuality were merely a psychological cope or a byproduct of psychological trauma, we wouldn't expect such strong correlates with morphology.https://nymag.com/news/features/33520/https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41188560Regarding sexual abuse, it is true that homosexuals, on average, are more likely than heterosexuals to have experienced childhood sexual abuse. However, studies have also shown that effeminate heterosexual boys are at a higher risk of molestation, while masculine homosexual boys are at a lower risk of molestation. If gender nonconformity (effeminacy) exposes children to a higher risk of molestation (it also exposes them to a higher risk of physical abuse too), then naturally homosexuals will experience elevated rates of childhood molestation compared to heterosexuals, because most homosexuals are gender nonconforming as children. Furthermore, 'pre-gay' children are often identifiably different from their peers from a very early age (about 3 years), before any molestation occurs.also most of that sexual abuse was consensual teenage experience with older males.gays never look average, they're always either truecel teir borderline deformed subhumans or they're model teir prettyboy Chadlites.
Genetic/biological Evidence of Homosexuality:http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/04/the-science-of-sexuality-how-our-genes-make-us-gay-or-straight/http://archive.is/y64OHhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28https://www.advocate.com/health/2015/10/09/study-dna-identical-twins-can-reveal-whos-gayhttp://archive.is/GuptBhttp://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.htmlhttp://archive.is/PSmzQhttps://www.christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htmStraight males carry gay genes:http://chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdfhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28Fecundity enhances in female relatives of male homosexuals:http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051088https://www.livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.htmlhttp://archive.is/32sQzScientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers:http://archive.is/g3lalhttp://www.nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28Female relatives of gay men have 1.3x as many children:http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x/abstractAndrogen receptor gene linked to XQ28https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAGEA11http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/study-gay-brothers-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexualityhttp://archive.is/E3my1
>>535594322blablablahisterical reasoning and more of the sameyou don't dare think outside conservative anielated popular opinionsthe attraction a gay has to other men is primarily sexual, it is not just a "bro" thing, it is the same affection straight people have, it is just how nature works (don't ask.me.why and how, no one knows exactly how it is and we don't need to understand evwrything).most gays are not even part of this community, we are not this idiotic idea you use to portray us as bad degenerates and you as a pure pacific straight loving married manyou are living in a lie, not me
>>535578559Pee pee doesnt go into where poo poo comes out of. Hope this helps.
Statistics on gays and marriage:http://archive.is/UajwiScience on gays as parents:http://archive.is/9sqNrThe benefits of gay marriage:http://archive.is/0I0EOGenetic Evidence of Homosexuality:http://archive.is/grwgpDoes conversion therapy work:http://archive.is/uPIbiHIV information:http://archive.is/oJS6yAre gays more likely to be pedophiles?http://archive.is/gK3SiIs being gay a mental illness?https://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_mental_health.html
There are one base pair mutations in genetic code that can be identified by sequencing. These SNPs, once you find them, may correspond to a certain gene, which then has to be identified. These gene designations corresponding to the SNPs are given below:5p13, 5q31, 7q32, 8p22, and 10q23These genes code for protein subunits of glutamate membrane transport proteins.For the Xq28 type of homosexuality, there is a distinct facial phenotype in dual expression. The Xq28 gene is part of the melanoma associated antigen family of genes that’s involved in surveillance against melanoma cancer.The Xq28 gene (causes homosexuality, ADHD, and autism) is in linkage with genes that increase female fecundity. That means, the genes that increase female reproductive success often are inherited with the Xq28 melanoma cancer surveillance genes. When this is expressed in women, they statistically have more than 5 sexual partners during course of life. They produce many children. And, for these children, there is a 50% change for the women to pass the gene cluster to a son. This is good enough that evolution doesn’t care about the small amount of gay sons, because the woman will produce many daughters that are evolutionarily more valuable.The frequency of xq28 allele in the 80s was around 6% of the female population. It’s about 8-10% today. This is also why ADHD and certain types of high functioning autism increase at tue same rate as male homosexuality. They’re all x-linked traits.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28
>>535593216Schizophrenia or any other thing having an environmental component does not change the observation that faggotry has a very strong environmental component. If half of potential faggots don't fag out in the right environment then we should be treating it as a highly preventable disorder.
We think that we can explain 35% of the observed population of male homosexuals with genetic pathways already described in the literature, we will probably see it reach about 50% being explained as more pathways are published.The three most common genetic pathways for male homosexuality are:1. Genes of the glutamate membrane transporter family2. Genes of the melanoma associated antigen family (Xq28)3. Gene of unknown function in linkage with the centromere of chromosome 8The most recent GWAS study found a series of glutamate transport genes (at chromosomes 5p13, 5q31, 7q32, 8p22, and 10q23) that have SNPs with p-values of association equal to 0.00000001.That means, assuming the hypothesis that there is NO association between these genes and homosexuality with gender nonconformity in children, the probability of observing a result as or more extreme than the one observed by the researchers is only 0.00000001. The standard significance value for these publications is only 0.01.https://www.scholars.northwestern.edu/en/publications/genome-wide-linkage-and-association-study-of-childhood-gender-non
>>535594396comparing two loving adults to paraphilias is just wrongwhy you keep doing this to yourself?
>>535594279That's very interesting this trend is also occurring in Brazil, thanks for reporting this to us. >you guysDon't "you guys" me, I am not on anyone's team as I have stated several times already. I am a private individual who has investigated this matter for himself with the desire to know the truth. I have come to my conclusions and I am sharing them. I am willing to re-evaluate based on strong evidence to the contrary so I have been engaging all the replies seriously and fairly. So far all anyone has done is repeat 1990s political ideology, there has been nothing particularly interesting from anyone in the thread. And again I don't vote or participate in politics, so if someone is oppressing you or any other person who identifies as gay, it is not me.
>>535594568question: why does having environmental component matters so much to you?it is obviously both, nature and nurture are connected somehow, and the fact there is a social dimension to sexualkty is not a new idea, it has both natural biological and social dimensions, you can analyse both, it doesn't make homosexuality wrong or fake whatever
>>535594656there is no such thing as "private individual" and I already debunked your fake thoughtfulness and "hard analysis" as capitalist ideology plain and simple
>>535594509>>535594473>>535594556>>535594628>reddit copypasta made of weird science and wikipedia articles written 15 years agoohhh boy here we go. >NOOOOO academic peer reviewed papers never produced at universities with billions of dollars in corporate/political funding NEVER lie!!!! If you don't have a PhD in Psychology you can't talk about this issue!!!! NOOOO!!! I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!!! Especially Psychology!!! Nothing proves a point better than a volume of links!!!!!(See: >>535593422)
>>535594869>no such thing as a "private individual"Actually I agree with this. >debunkedOkay my guy, you win. I done been 'bunked. It's over for me.
I think straggot are mad they can’t bully us into fake marriages with women anymore like the 1950s, while they have to be miserable with a woman their entire life.
Given that the only men who are sexy are white or castizo latinx, a gay country will default to NatSoc Aryanism. All gays crave BWC
>>535594967question: are you even gay?no amount of academic studies can have the same amount of reliability than my own personal experience to methey can help, but I value myself more than that
>>535595034good, now you know it stop posing yourself as some kind of high brow intellectual because it does not work with me
People who say homosexuality isn't genetic haven't seen what a RPDR live finale looks like. Gay face for years.
The Chad's down there could slay dah poon but they'd rather be gayThat or monke poon is like incest to them
>>535593199I didn't call you dumb. Sounds like you're confessing. And it's not my job to do anything for you. It's not your mommy's job, either, but here you are, incapable of moving out of the room in her house where you grew up.
>>535595046>while they have to be miserable with a woman their entire life.Actually the trend is men who wish to marry but can't find a partner to marry for whatever reason. >>535595060>are you even gayNobody is gay. That's my entire point. Have I experienced same sex attraction and also same-sex activity? Yes and yes. Did I once think I was gay? Yes. Do I have a normal sex life now? Yes. Last relationship didn't work out but I was absolutely satisfied sexually and emotionally being with a woman. I am quite certain she was sexually satisfied as well but unfortunately she had some very bad traumas that she had not dealt with yet and I had to call it quits. It was an epiphany. I admit I was worried going into the relationship that I wouldn't be satisfied or wouldn't be able to perform. Check and check. I was into submissive stuff when it came to men and rediscovering my manhood in bed was like being reborn in a shield of chain mail and chest hair, it was absolutely fucking glorious. It was also the moment I could finally say "Holy fuck, it really is all bullshit."
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>>535595378You are trying to convince yourself that sexuality is fluid. Like okay whatever, but you're going to suck dicks and get fucked on the DL like the rest of the married men on Grindr.
>>535595378thats bisexualitygay men dont like women or pussy even after trying and are miserable if they are in a fake relationship with onethanks for coming out tho
>>535595378> I was into submissive stuff when it came to men and rediscovering my manhood in bedGarden variety bisexual lmao
>>535595378if you are attracted to both men and women then you are a bisexualI am not like you, I have no sexual feelings towards a woman and sexually I am a too so I can have the idea of being masculine while still being gay, if you didn't feel good being a submissive man it is because you are a bottom and has some porblems with your sexuality and try to use science to justify your complexesyou see, people are different and you shouldn't project your own experiences to others
>>535594473Perfect example of why science has a "reproducibility crisis".
>>535595649>>535595378>sexually I am a topfixed
>>535594440>consensual teenage experience with older malesTeenagers are not legally allowed to consent to such things. The law isn't arbitrary; such things tend to lead to developmental problems. There's a reason vampires in fiction were stand-ins for gays before it was socially acceptable to talk about gay.
>>535595752>teenagers cannot consentthe absokute state of american protestant mind
>>535595137I am a little full of myself aren't I? Yeah I gotta work on that... I have a chip on my shoulder and feel like I have to be defiant towards everything that harmed me in my past. >>535595060>>535595378I need to add: you HAVE to stop watching pornography and having gay sex. And it is VERY difficult but for me it took about 6 months or so to create room for my sexual energy to untether from gay thoughts/desires. You have to quit all porn, not just gay porn or something like that. I remember in a moment of weakness around month 7 I snuck a peak at gay porn and... no reaction!Amazing how millions of men have been quietly having experiences like this the whole time and yet nobody is allowed to hear from them, mostly because we can't really explain this stuff in public. I would share my story publicly but I don't want people (especially women) to think "oh he's really just gay and this is all some craziness." >>535595477I have not had a sexual encounter with a male in 9 years, I have not felt a sexual desire for a male in over 2 and half years. I haven't watched porn in about 3.5 years with a few relapses here and there none of which lasted long.
>>535595832Brazil is a shithole. I'll keep my American Protestant mind, thank you. It seems to be working better than whatever the hell you're doing down there (like cutting a highway through a rainforest for the benefit of a climate-change conference).
>>535595852gay people who feel bad or confused about homosexualoty are just weak ass faggots, I am being real to youif you cannot achieve the best your homosexuality can give you, you are always this constantly complexed little children who cannot LOVE you will always be a problem to yourself and other people, gay or straight
>>535595649Sir, I genuinely thought I was a HOMOSEXUAL for most of my adult life. This went on from teens all the way to end of my mid 20s. You are not going to tell me otherwise. And no, sexually, I was an obsessive "bottom" with men. I had some kind of very fucked up self-loathing that became an eroticized self-emasculation.I love you guys. All you do is demand I recognize you in the way you identify. As soon as I fill you in on the way I identify, you tell me "no no, you can't be that, trust me I know." Love it!
>>535595988only because it works doesn't mean it is right or good thoteenagers can consent, if you are above 14 or 15 you are at legal age and america is a dumb coubntry that survives vampirizing "shitholes" so they depend on constant murder and invasion
>>535596102you are a weak ass faggot that makes my life hellthanks for sharing it tho, it makes things more clear now
>>535596105I have no idea what you're trying to say here. It appears you're just trying to make things up out of thin air and declare them true. Very sloppy.
>>535596459your protestant mind can't into real thinking
>>535596102>All you do is demand I recognize you in the way you identify. As soon as I fill you in on the way I identify, you tell me "no no, you can't be that, trust me I know."Because you're invalidating the life choices they're insecure about, every single thing they use to argue in favor homosexuality is always an excuse to make it seem inevitable and to destroy the possibility of choice they initially perceived>I was born this way>It occurs in nature>If you changed you're faking it or you were never gayThey're not interested in the truth, they're impulsively reinforcing their weak conviction that they have no choice but to be sexual degenerates, especially if they already invested in that lifestyle, because recognizing that they did a mistake and they had a choice all along would cause them to have a mental breakdown. Which leads to stuff like 4 hours long arguments on how confident you are in your choice to be a faggot.
>>535596193Don't hate me, don't hate yourself. Hate the world that has subjected you to all of this confusion, difficulty and misery by lying to you. Hate the adults who did not protect you and allowed your innocence to be taken before you were ready. The unitary force of the universe to which you referred earlier. It is real. It is the foundation of all being. It is behind your eyes and it is everything you see before you. It's above you, below you, left, right, behind, in front, and WITHIN you.Don't you sense something controlling your fate? Haven't you noticed there is something unseen pulling all the strings behind the scenes? Haven't you discovered how it thwarts your plans and forces you to suffer, how it suddenly gives you new directions and joys right when you were about to lose hope?It will help you, it will give you everything you need or want. Pray to it and ask for help. Do not call it Jesus or God or Buddha if you don't know its name. Talk to it. Ask it for help.Good luck to you friend, don't beat yourself up, become angry or despair. Breathe lightly. If you want to make love to your partner tonight, do it. All of this will be here tomorrow for you to figure out.
>>535594440>picIs the lesbian chick more attractive?
>>535596808>>535596742it is absolutely hard for you to understand I have feelings towards other men (handsome men actually) and you are absollutely mad trying to prove me I am bad or wrong or whatever because it sounds alien to youwhy are you wasting your time doing this?you are tiresome. accept nature works like that, not everyrhing is straight and that's goodcool down your fascism
>>535596742but gay guys are not attracted to women or vaginas, so even if they have the choice of not being in a gay relationship, they dont have the choice to be attracted to women or to stop being attracted to men, because sexual orientation is hardwired in the brain >>535594440just look at the men of "my husband is not gay" reality documentary, they are men raised mormon who "experience same sex attraction" and despite being married to women they are still attracted to menhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OrU6G2tRaQ
>>535596102You were a bi (“submissive for men, dom with women” is the most typical type of bi)Then you got older and wanted to settle with a womanThat is ALSO the most typical bi story ever, and why gays know it’s pointless to date bi guys lol
>>535597593I tend to think these people are the worst enemies of gay people, because they actually feel and understant the intricacies of how it is being gay but at the end of the day turn out using it against their similars
Being gay is a privilage in capitalist states. In socialist countries you would be simply send to a work camp or killed.
>>535595262Why are you trying to hurt my feelings?>>535597126God is real. You are made for perfection and immortality. This world is a daydream that is passing us all by, very quickly. You were placed into the world and subjected to suffering in order that your soul might learn something it failed to learn before. It has a MUCH longer existence that has been temporarily concealed from you in order for the trial of your life to take place (If you were allowed to remember where you came from you would not fear death and would not suffer life).Your body will be reborn after you die in a different realm. Do you find this absurd? Were you born once? Why not twice? In the next world you will be informed about your life on earth and what each experience and event actually meant, and you will be allowed to glimpse The One, and just glimpsing at The One will surpass any joy you ever dreamt of. The One will ask you if you are willing to suffer through more trials in order to see more of this Dazzling Beauty. You will say "Yes!"The process will repeat until you are returned entirely to The One, and reality will again be Infinite, Eternal, Unending Bliss and Perfect Knowledge.
>>535597314When someone claimed to have been homosexual before changing you immediately wrote him off as bisexual (>>535595560)It seems like you're struggling to accept we don't know much about sexual orientation yet. To me it just looks like you're upset at the possibility of others experiencing something you couldn't have access to yet, to the point of schizophrenically spamming for years the same 6 pro-homosexual copypastas. No one is even going to click on those links because we all know we can't convincingly come to a conclusion on matters such as why people have different sexual orientations, if they can change and how.
>>535597835this kind of reasoning is typical of someone who's stuck in the 20th century forever and can't get the fuck out of there
>>535597899I already know the one and he is not like what you are saying
>>535598097the question about changing sexuality is ALWAYS brought up by people who condemn homosexuality as a sin or deviancethis alone tells you about the nature of this obsession. it is not about searching for truth about human relationships, but to exclude some people from love and dignity they deserve
>>535598808If you don't like being treated like a sexual deviant stop being one, otherwise keep whining about le hecking homophobes for the rest of your life. Which seems exactly what you're planning to do looking at this thread alone
>>535598808>>535598097if you are actually concerned with truth, you should just ask an homosexual how he feels about his sexuality and get your answersthe main concern here seems to be the oppostite: to desclassify homosexuality as a legit human behavior using some coping mechanism like saying it's just "bad nurture" and can be changedit cannot be changed, it can only be repressed
>>535598961I am not a sexual deviantand your concern about "sexual deviancy" is not legit because you only see gays as sexual deviants, while you don't really care that much about right wing or straight sexual deviancy (which is widespread in this website)the goal here is being just mean towards a fragile population while pretending you are on the right side of historyit will not work
>>535598654>I already know the one>These "layers of reality" hide some unity but I have no idea of what this "bigger reality" behind everything is, some people call it "love" or god, whatever?
>>535599183This is just your own conclusion that you're using to legitimize your (bad) choice of being an hardcore sexual deviant. Obviously I can only be so concerned about someone who's willing to get fucked in the ass, catch AIDS and die like a bitch
>>535578559Does anyone have the webm?
>>535578559Get AIDS you degenerate!
>>535599381the one is multiple
>>535587631blondE => femaleblond => male
>>535598808From my perspective (and I promise you do not know the religion to which I belong) it is not because same-sex activity is a sin that makes it such a sad reality. It is from observing other people very carefully and noticing that the happiest people I know are married with children. It is seeing how multiple forces (including LGBTQ ideology) are causing this aspect of human life to disappear. It's a sign of how disturbed and disrupted this world is and how terrible its fate is going to be. I do not know what the world will look like in 100 years or if it will still be here. But I know anyone who lives in a world that has advanced 100 years further down the path of modernity will be living in a hellish world where nature is on life support, injustice is rampant and basic forms of human life have been usurped by technology. Lies and propaganda will continue blinding mankind to his true nature. The psychological forces of shame and confusion will come upon all. Humanity will be subjected to horrors that reach into the heart with hooks and turn like machines. There will be cloning, incubators, government regulations on reproduction, sex changes, orgies, designer embryos, and total sexual anarchy as people increasingly utilize sexual pleasure to cope with horrors of living in a world ruled by wicked men with total power and their insurmountable control of technological power. I very much see homosexuality and feminism as the first episodes of this terrible saga. It cannot be stopped, it's part of the End which has long been foretold all over the world by the shamans and in every major religion. I mean I can't pretend I'm doing anything here to fight evil or something, to be honest I should be doing something else with my time and it's spiritually hazardous and unhelpful to speak to people in the way I have been, so I am sorry. May God help us all. I pray for us all-- real humans, real souls with real lives destined for Glory after suffering.
>>535600121you are the main example of the retard and deviant way of thinking most polsters and right wingers and conssrvatives in general holdthis is just pathetic and outside reality.people choose not to live in families because some people do not search for this kind of happiness or aim for something better, the fact they fail is because we live in a still very conservative world in some senseyou disguise your hate (and yes, this is pure hate) towards gays and minorities with words of "care" and love but this is so outdated and most people just get it by nowstop being a weak faggot woth catastrophic apocalyptic religious dense worldview and open your fucking mind
>>535600357You degenerates confuse an open asshole with an open mind. Hope you get AIDS, freak.
>>535600357>most people just get it by nowWhich is why you constantly have to seek safe spaces where homos are not the butt of everyone's joke and you don't have to come to 4chan to simulate being faced with what the vast majority of people actually thinks of faggots
>>535599809That is clearly nonsense my friend. Multiplicity comes from the One, the same way 3d space is generated by the point, the same way 3=1+1+1. But you are putting your finger very near the heart of the matter so there is a good chance you will figure it out in time. Take this before we part ways: The only thing that really exists is God.
>>535578559You do know homosexuality is criminalized in many communist nations right?
I wish more gays would vacation in Muslim countries and be openly gay in public. That would solve the problem a lot faster than AIDS.
>>535600580god is not about hating gay people
Gays should have sex in public for our entertainment
>>535600793>everything that makes me feel threatened is hate
33% of this thread is made by two niggers sockpuppeting as leftwings
>>535600743It was decriminalized in Czech, Vietnam, Cuba and East Germany
>>535600793Of course not anon, that's totally absurd. How could anyone imagine the Nature of Reality and Being Itself is something so small and in and of itself detestable?
>>535600993homosexuality is a great thingone of the greatest there isself hatred is not
I am fascist because I am pansexual.
>>535586042You're trying to excuse gays.Probably because you're gay yourself.All faggots love le pride week and all faggots are against human decency.
>>535600776There's nothing funny about misunderstandings leading to death. >>535600479What did you hope to achieve with this post?>>535601141Self hatred is not a great thing, I agree with that very much. Homosexuality is not one of the greatest things there is, that is rather hyperbolic of you.
>>535601420pride parades are not even that mich of a thingconservatives love it tho because it gives them fuel
>>535588599>gay sex is not bad or degrading>that flagI cannot think of anything more degrading.Except perhaps pedophilia, which your lot also love.
>>535601471human sexuality is how we connect with the Cosmos.you talk about god and science but fail to understand the principle of love (what love actually is besides a nice word).Love is basically connect to our libidinal system and it encompasses the whole body and mind. People who downplay the role of sexuality in connecting with the world or reality tend to be frigid and scared human beings.
>>535601420Not all fags are, but may as well be.Since there's no pleasing straggots either way, we may as well enjoy being total sluts.
>>535601633you can say that to yourself and other how much you want: it will never become truehomosexuality is sacred and it should remain this way
>>535592891Homossexuals are uncapable of feeling love or affection for other people.They run on fetishism. Which they pretend to be love or affection.
>>535592891What the fuck is natural about faggotry?No, really. Try to answer the fucking question you abominable faggots.
>>535601681So a man whose penis was blown off in a war or a woman with a rare condition making intercourse painful cannot connect to the Cosmos. Makes sense.
>>535601921/pol/ posters are incapable of lovegay people are very much in love all the time (you just pretend not to see it)why keep being this way? you are happy like this? tell me, you will keep thinking like this your whole life?
Karl Marx probably would have thought you belong in a death camp. Faggot.
>>535582189I'm bi and I was never bad touched. Just because that's true in your case doesn't mean it is for everybody.
>>535601995why are americans so dumb about simple things in general?I mean, is that so hard to understand the "whole body and mind" concept?
>>535578559I'm bi (thought I was gay when I was 19-20), formerly a Lib Dem. Now I'm a MAGA Republican chud. a transphobe and an Islamophobe. I feel like LGB people should be more worried about Muslim migration, Muslim culture shifting and trannies abusing gay rights to bully society into enabling their bullshit.
>>535599183Why are faggots fragile?
>>535602114Poor quadriplegics, cut off from the Cosmos forever. Poor children who died before ever experiencing sex. What a strange god indeed.
>>535598580That's exactly the problem. We forgot our roots. We forgot class struggle. The working class must remain committed to fighting for socialism and must purge all distractions that would lead us astray. Capitalist forces hostile to our socialist cause seek to corrupt us and harm our countries. Sodomy is a symptom of bourgeois extreme individualism. It's bourgeois depravity in which individual hedonism is put above the collective good of the whole society. It's patriotic duty of every man and woman to have children and sodomites obviously can't have kids. Thus they cannot produce another generation of workers and soldiers.
>>535601502Sure, I'm not saying all gays go to the pride parades.I am saying that all gays support it and say it should exist, etc.In the same way that all gays when they are honest are always against all human decency.Gays are of the devil. Gays are dudes who unironically are so fucked up in the head / heart that they suck dick and take it up the ass. They also rape each other all the time. You fags literally are another spieces.
>>535601471I hoped to wish AIDS on a degenerate. Simple as. Total Gay Death.
>>535602331I won't even answer, you shluld get it by yourselfI am tired of teaching people that sexuality is not only about genitalia and sex (as in sexual act) and it is about affection and emotionthis is so basilar the fact most people dont get it by intuition is concerning
>>535602034I don't see you even tried to make a point... I'll continue to think like this as long as I don't see anything that would make me change my thought.And I doubt I will see such a thing.
>>535602577portuga burro
>>535602541>I am tired of teaching people that sexuality is not only about genitalia and sex (as in sexual act) and it is about affection and emotionIf you are tired of trying to teach this, by all means stop. By this definition, a hug is sexual. A mother kissing her baby is sexual. Any human interaction is sexual. It's common for people to develop ideas where they equate disparate things in this fashion, I'm not even rejecting it outright, and you're not very far from the Freudian perspective anyhow (which is thoroughly wrong). Let me just offer to you another way of expressing your point, but without perversion. Instead of saying all affection is sexuality, why not say all sexuality is affection?
>>535602541How would sexuality be about affection and emotion for gays and tans?This is so fucking clear something you repeated to yourself until you believed it in order to justify your degenerate and degrading soul crushing faggotry. And deep down you know it's not true. How could it possibly be?I bet 75% of the sexual partners of a faggot were strangers that were just near by. As a fag once told me:>Do you know how it is to be a fag?>Imagine whenever you want to fap>You can get anyone (of the gays) to do it for you>And he'll probably suck you tooEven if I could get this from the hottest girls, I bet I'd be tired and not into it after the first 3 days.Or 30.
>>535602766If all sexuality is affection then why bitches gotta call the cops after they raped?
>>535602784>>535602766>I see a handsome man>feel aroused>love him>get inspired by his beautinessThis is sexuality.
>>535602939Works for prepubescent boys too, I reckon.
>>535602634Cala a boca veado!You don't eve try to make a point.You know you have been defeated. Don't kill yourself but taking it up in the ass and sucking dicks in the favela is no way to live a life.I don't care if you're gay or not.But if you have to do all that mental gymnastic just to keep accepting yourself for being such a degenerate... then that surely was not the path God chose for you.Stop pretending to be a victim - you traumatised child - and face reality as it is.
>>535602939That would be an example of sexuality, yes. I'm just having trouble relating this very particular example of human sexual behavior to some kind of woo woo Cosmic enlightenment based on sex. Can you fill in that gap for me? Are you taking drugs during sex or something?
How to cure the gay.
>>535603099music is a good example.music is sexuality, it is a form of connecting your body (and your libido) to the cosmosyou don't need to engage in actual sexual relationships to develop a healthy sexuality
>>535602939That has nothing to do with sexuality, anon. Unironically. All of that is wrong.You're not getting inspired. You're not loving anyone. If you feel aroused is because there is something deeply wrong with you. How the fuck can one feel aroused by a man?About seeing le handsome man... most fags I see around are shit tier, but I don't even get how a man would see another as handsome. I have always said to girls that I was more beautiful and manly than Brad Pitt. They laugh but I still think I'm right. A man can be strong and rugged (hard), he can even be without major physical defects... but for one to look at a man and go>I see handsome_ness / beautyIs a bit akward to say the least.My point is that I doubt you see that "handsome_ness" which you were talking about.You're just creating justification for your degeneration because you like when they give you attention and when they touch your dick.
>>535602976>talks about loving another man>weirdo instantly connects it to loving boysIs it on me or is it you?think about it
>>535603322The example you gave is exactly the same used by pedophiles when they say>I dindu nuffin wrong!And let's be clear: All pedophiles that target boys or girls without particularly feminine characteristcs... they are gays.
>>535603417most pedophiles are straight thosome of them share the same board and political opinions as you
>>535603271You are like the gooner who only thinks about sex, your answer about equating sex to music is very deranged. Sex is part of human nature, but just a tiny part, just something you do to make children in a loving relationship.Putting that on as the primary drive of your path in life is really corrupted and everybody thought like that until 50-70 years ago, for a good reason.I get it, you like men, it's a troublesome reality, but building your life around it is just sick behavior.
>>535603271It sounds to me like you are completely obsessed with sex, to the point that you might even worship it as a literal idol. Do you have any hobbies?
>>535603483CopeYou're just not willing to face reality.Which is exactly what gays do. Otherwise you would not be gay because no man can look himself in the mirror and do what gays do.So you have to cope.
>>535578746Because all brazillians are trannies. Im convinced this epidemic spread out of brazil desu. I never used to see or even hear about trannies unless they were in fuckin brazil or thailand all the way up to like 2013 LMFAO. Goddam do you guys remember not too ling ago where calling out trannies for the gross mutants they are was socially acceptable?
>>535587423He clearly blocked it out dumbass
>>535603723>>535603721cope and seethehumans are sexual animals and our sexuality is at the core of our system and music, art, poetry and also our search for love and meaning is all about sex (in a broad sense of the word).You are frustrated and castrated little guys who gave up on life because you couldn't get the idea that sez is much more than sticking your peepee into a vagina (something you phantacize aboit, but can never get).
>>535603892sneethe city slicker
>>535601681You never met love if you never met Jesus.>Sex is love Do you love your mom? Who loves you more, your disease railed lover who only seeks his personal relief, or your mom?Look for Jesus, seriously, your life will be much better, stop coping and using drugs, there is an unconditional love for you out there.
>>535603834Yes. But they did not originate from Brazil. India, South Asia, all of Asia really... and the Moslem lands have always been filled with trannies - well eunuchs, really - and sometimes even ruled by them. The original sexual sin of Brazil was cuckoldry. The Indians offered us their wives because they did not have a concept of marriage like we do. From what I gathered their concept was of "priority". The village chief had priority over the girls. Then his friends, only then the average male. But everybody could fuck everybody. We arrived and they gave us their girls but we said, no! She's mine now, you can't have them! And therefore entire villages started to exist where half the Indian men were cucks. Eventually these mutts became trannies, probably because of being raped by niggers or some shit.
>>535603892So do you have any hobbies? Read books? Sketch? Play guitar?
>>535604097>jesusHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>535604127my hobby is humiliating dense conservative people
>>535604097>Who loves you more, your disease railed lover who only seeks his personal relief, or your mom?He's a faggot. He'll say the aids nigger loves him more because his mom never gave him head or something.Fags are all fucking terrible sick wicked people. They shouldn't even be considered as human because they think / feel as I described in the prior paragraph. They simply refuse to accept reality.
