>A massive sell off started today after China's graphics cards failed to meet expectations with reviews showing the cards being over 10 years out of date compared to their competitionThere goes your Nvidia competition
20 years ago china was nothing. today they are making DDR5 chips. just because the chinks are slightly behind doesn't mean they won't reach parity within 1-2 decades. you need to look at their speed of development, not where they currently sit on the hierarchy.
>>5356286402 more decades
>>535628640>20 years ago china was nothing. today they are making DDR5 chips. just because the chinks are slightly behind doesn't mean they won't reach parity within 1-2 decades. you need to look at their speed of development, not where they currently sit on the hierarchy.This is some massive pathetic cope. You have no idea what you just said. LOL
Thanks for the buy signal.
>>535628575Nvidas competition is and was and always will be AMD.
Bump
>>535628575>There goes your Nvidia competitionMy AMD stock is up 100% over the past 3 months.
>>535628640Kek
>>535628575This is bad for the US.
China makes plans in centuries you uppity gweilos. Which of course means every plan they try is at least 100 years out of date.
>>535628575>>535628936Nvidia has completely lost the Chinese market to Motorola, Jensen has said so himself.This thread is supreme copium.
>>535628851This
>>535629741Xd this place is browner than a gypsi birthday party.Let miggers deal with the internet world.
Let us use logic, and think!Be China, understand exactly capabilities of the comparators and the worlds eyes on you and your releases... Able to perfectly discern in comparison if what you are saying is correct to be the discrepancy of this Key product of yours vs your competitors... very early on too. And what would you do?Release it? Would you release this into the market and for the world to see if you did not have the upper hand and secret power? No.It would take away from the illusion of strength which is key when weaker.So, why would China not mind looking weaker for a moment? Because it works to win.Hubris of idiots is the greatest weapon one can feed so they suicide.I think.Bht use logic and prove me wrong. Make an argument using logic who would dare to release that with ccp military existing to then beat them to a pulp!
>>535629662Ahhhhh, you fucking retard.Embarassing retard.Flag alone gives it away... mfg.
>>535629824Chinas current position is from a few decades of progress that happened due to a demographic boom and global situation that will never happen again, they can make plans for centuries but those plans will likely be completely worthless in 10 years
>>535628640What happens to every communist country with time anon?
>>535628755>>535628784>>535629740They already dominate the car industry and many other heavy industries, the only thing US can dominate is the chip design (manufacturing is mainly in Taiwan and South Korea)
>>535628640>>535629864>>535630123What are you wumao going to do when your botfarms run out of money?>Well but in America....
>>535628575nothing wrong with 10 y/o gpu
>>535628640>developmentyou need JEWS stealing some shit from america for that. repeat after me chang "sorry jews, you want me to eat shit? i'll eat your shit"
Chinese are superior on inteligence than any western nation I knew it since I was very little when that chinese random student came with his family to my city.His math level was like 2 whole courses on advance and spain education was top tier 2 decades ago, best of bests so yeah if they kept that level for the following two decades the west is cooked.Just checked what he does now and well makes me feel bad even tho I am not by any means on a bad position, low to middle class we all were btw.
my cunts stock market looks the same. most do.the /biz/ mob are going apeshit with crypto doing crashy shit./pmg/ and /CTW/ chads check inhoping for oceans of red to wash away the corruption infecting society. there's no shemales when the field needs plowingaccelerate
>>535630192Just get 5090
>>535630533most games nowadays even the newest ones still run on gpus older than 10 years
China can't even make ball point pen tips.
>>535628575nice link, OPherbs all fields
>>535628851kek
>>535630274>good at mathI can buy a $10 calculator to do the same thing.
>>535628640We're in a boiled frog situation, they don't care.
>>535630878
>>535630844Retarded miga hubris.
>>535631396I dare you to find a math problem this can't solve.https://www.wolframalpha.com/
>>535630844Calculator still made in chyna
>>535631575>madeassembled, chips were made in Taiwan with a Danish machine.
>>535628575who is their competition?Amd that has only a fraction of the market value of nvidia and only exists because of no monopoly rules lmaoor intel that just has recently started producing gpuswho is said market competition who does things better than nvidia
>>535631575True
>>535631647>chipsA calculator doesn't use the same chip as your graphics card.
>>535628575>10years out of dateWhat does this mean. What are specs? Also if anything this being only a first iteration is great. I have full faith in China to be able to catch up in 5 years, probably closer to 3. I can't wait to buy Chinese computer products
>a territory with 1000% debt to gdp ratio is dying because >Graphic cardsLmfao. The narratives to try to rationalize the dead of 54 years of pyramid scheming on a deflating demographic are getting more retarded by the day
>>535628640You can only steal tech from others so fast
It's over.
>>535628575Thats not what the Hang Seng is showing shitbrick
damn all the glowies and Jews pilpuling ITT China has 236 times the shipbuilding capacity of Ziomerica you’re finished now they even make GPUs lmao
>>535634269And? China has no internal market, its demographic pyramid looks worse than Japan and the external markets it relied on are in deflation as well.
>>535634311>and it costs 103 billion dollars to build a 140 km “high speed” railway in UK you’re dead it’s over whatever issues China or Russia face, they are peanuts compared to crippling cultural, political and soon economic collapse West is facing all you can do is spam cringe hubris and cope online basically and prop the bubble
>>535634540Who are you social signaling to chang? China is an exclusively export facing "economy", it indebted its territory by a factor of 1000% to the fantasy number of GDP, which includes public spending, in hope it would be able to increase its market share on foreign soil. Its fucked, when the markets it tried to conquer are in deflation themselves.Who are chinese manufacturer selling their overproduction to, if there is no demand for it? Why should a Chinese manufacturer take the risk of hiring changs to produce something that doesn't have a buyer?You are fucked by far more than any other territory on this planet
Let AI design it
>>535630123They dominate pretty much every industry. Steel production, shipbuilding, car production, they have 80% of the worlds rare earth materials. I could go on and on. And they're also structured to literally zerg rush their way to dominance. The government can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants. The entire fucking planet needs to wake up to what's happening.
>>535628575>>535628640>> THE CHINKCELS LIED??? >> THE WEIMERIMUTTS LIED??? >> THE ZIGGER NIGGER RUSSIANS LIED??? WHY DO THE GOYIM ALWAYS LIE PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THEIR JEWISH HANDLERS THE JEWS OWN THE GOYMEN SHABBOS SENILE OLD POLITICAL PUPPETS
>>535635437"ai" doesn't exist. Its a marketing term for various generative stochastic software suits. And these are not able to revert a deflation of demand, if anything these software suits accelerate demand deflation.Henry Ford undersood something "modern" economist seemingly are unable to grasp. If his workers can't afford the cars they produce, who the fuck would Henry extract his cashflow from
>>535628784>spends $4000 on gpu slop of the year >considers himself to be smart Lol.
>>535628640We have been hearing that China is about catch up forever. I don't think that will ever happen. Their game is to imitate the West and always play a game of catch up by replicating our old shit. They will never be on the cutting edge.
>>535635556It solved an Erdos problem recently
>>535635655Chinas game was fucking its own internal market to become an exclusive producer and hoped to be able by that lane to spread its maoist marxist cancer. What marxist cancer didn't factor in was, that if the territories they try to conquer with slave labor production go into deflation and can't afford their production anymore, respective have no demand for it, the ccps china dies.Marxist can simply not into the relationship between offer and demand
>>535636132Who cares about masturbatory math problems outside of the tiny niche of math niggers? Yes, nobody
>>535635655DeepSeek was the first reasoning centric llm. It’s vastly superior to western models (and less expensive), which constantly make shit up to please their narcissistic users.
>>535630073This They enjoyed having tons of people and cheap labor Considering their birth rate La and the general niggerdom of thier country they will never be able to catch up because they drowned too many baby girls in rivers
>>535630075They kill too many of their smart people and just become a nation of retards with entitlement issues?
>>535629831And China's gpus aren't 10 years behind like OP said. They also have scale too.
>>535635655>Their game is to imitate the West and always play a game of catch up by replicating our old shit. They will never be on the cutting edge.AMD the country.
>>535636688How heavy do these Nvidia circular ponzi bags feel these days? You can still get your money back and make a profit before the bond market collapse buries these secondary ponzis under it
>>535636688Mitt cope
>>535628575Did you use MS paint to make that?
>>535628640>china is mass producing products for a dead industry, this is the future
>>535635556It’s a simple problem honestly >Hey nigger why don’t you own a car?“All I do is work Monday through Saturday and I have church Sunday” “Hmph take the day off. Buy a car.” Plus it’s easier to effectively take the higher pay right back by selling them a car at the exact same price as their bonus. >Here’s a $3000 bonus, and I got this shiny car for $3000 and would you like to buy some add ons?For AI it’s just not that good and its uses are far more limited than something like a car. I can do most of what AI can do with a python script and some effort.
>>53562857510 years is pretty good from my perspective.
ABSOLUTELY NORMALIf anyone is daft (or willingly daft & micro p3nused) enough to have never noticed CHINA is 100% a GLOBO SCAM like global warming/cooling/saming or deadly covid & safe & effective “vaxxine(TM)”. The china in the BIG LIE policy and in the lying from the many mouths of Reuters >this is very dangerous to our democracydoes not even exist. China is a backwards, poor as dogshit, terrorised, tyranny of traumatised in hyper cuckery mini dicked walking organ banks ruled by a separate race the jews of the orient and it is currently being used as GLOBO’S CORPORATE PIRATE BAY. You will NEVER see any of the things gloated about in the big lie policy because non of them exist and by the time ine lie amounts to nothing they are already telling the next lie. They have been successful with the lying because few people ever get to see into the pirate bay. The entire scam is predicated upon globo declaring china a “developing nation” and this giving our tax money to them AND giving free shipping for all goods made by any chinese company to anywhere on earth… all at our expense.IT IS A sweaty hell big brother SCAM.
>>535636275I care
>>535628575Stock exchanges are closed on saturdays
>>535628575>Muh stock marketHow many ships does America produce? How many Americans does Nvidia actually employ?
>>535628640We are, 10 years is massive in an industry where milliseconds count. I'll tell you the truth Anon. War is never fair. They challenged the Capitalistic Markets, that could not be allowed, and so the West sent forces, powers, and principalities, to quash them. "Hoyoverse"? "Temu"? G1 Robots by "Unitree"? All written in Romanji. Did you think it was a coincidence? A symbol is a banner, and ours is spreading wide. They did something unforgiveable Anon. Their Yin aspect remembers it. They slaughtered little girls to satisfy a book they never even followed to the letter. Mandate of Heaven? Meet the Hell's Contract. Do you have any idea what I am going to do to this planet Anon? I was about to sleep but some bastard pulled me out of retirement. Now I can't sleep, and that, makes me very, very, VERY fucking ANGRY!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oansGOr1YE
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>>53562857510 years behind isn’t really that bad with how fast it’s going, my guess is they’ll be primarily for consumers rather than AI for the foreseeable future
>>535628640This reads like something from war on terror think tank tracts. In fact there is no difficulty finding similar things written 200 years ago. Believe it or not there used to be a big "China will take over the world imminently" scare in the Yellow Peril 1900 moment, and there already was one during the Napoleonic times. China has been a big industrial player since the 1980s. China in 2006 was certainly not nothing, it was massive. They are now an even bigger player but the days of unlimited growth are long past, now it's all shekel-shuffling debt changing hands ten times a year to barely get the manipulated line go up. Mutts seethe at it because the Chinese break their 90s delusions of global hegemon but mainland China is a middle income country and likely will stay that way in the middle term.
>>535628575See how all the chinks crawl out of the woodwork. Very revealing.
oh no china is collapsing (in 2 more weeks)
>>535638839Lol
>>535628575>todayWhy are you lying, shill? That was two days ago. Last closing is picrel.
>>535640058This
>>535637647
>>535628575>10 years out of date>Has performance of a 3060Something is not right here
>>535641871But they have AI gpus?
>>535628575you do know that nvidia had already announced that they will stop making consumer cards right?
>>535628640
>>535629824How can China make plans on century timescale when every 50 years internal backstabbing or external forces completely changes the leadership
Don't stop with gaming, nvidia...
>>535628640>two more decadesok, Chang
>>535629824trust the plan. Killing those 45 million chinks was necessary.
>>535628640China has never once projected power on a global scale and barely even a regional one. Their entire civilization has been always been incredibly inward facing and focused on keeping invaders from the steepe out. In all honesty, if they were smart they would just keep doing what they are already doing. The West will implode by itself at this point. They will be the strongest country in five decades, as long as they don't get greedy and force a war. I am not convinced they would be successful in warfare. They have a long history of military embarrassment.
>>535628640>20 years ago china was 20 years behind>now 20 years they're like 15 years behindso they'll be caught up like 60 years from now?>>535629707Yeah AMD was way undervalued for a long time. Still is IMO, but also Nvidia is ridiculously overvalued. Once the boomer pension fund subsidy ends people will start paying the actual energy/labor costs on AI which are actually more expensive than a human employee on average, much less an Indian one. Basically no AI company has actually made money.
>>535636782I still use mspaint all the time.
>>535629707>My AMD stock is up 100%This YOU?
>>535636639I would like to know where OP gets his news.Probably some boomer outlet.
>>535628575This seems like a cope thread
>>535628575Chink Chongs have a fucking stock market but retarded sharts will still call them commies. Do you believe that marx the kike had GPU stocks in mind when he wrote his tranny shooter manifesto? you are so dumb it's unreal
>>535628575oh thank fucking god... I hope every single one of these bugmen diesi have serious chink fatigue
>>535628575Oh no. A country who measures success by quality of life metrics of the general population had a bad stock day. It would be a stupid inventive to let the general population believe that equities are for gambling. > the slave mentality needed to think this is a bad thing.
>>535628640Imagine if companies didn't need to rely on the Chinaman market.I still don't understand how they thought a country with 80% of its people in poverty would buy their products. This goes back to the 70s.Their definition of poverty was earning less than $2 a day.
>>535629707ha ha pig, charade you arehttps://youtu.be/UuiJnr38CKU?t=76
>>535643903Now you understand why AI, labor automation and representative liberal consumption capitalism are inherently contradictory.
>>535637095At least they’re a homogeneous nation unlike kek britain
>>535630123>>535635471In the past few years the CCP provided over $200 billion in subsidies for car manufacturers.The US has spent $60 billion since the 60s.
>>535628640>1-2 centuries ftfy
>>535628640Why do euroshills spout this nonsense? It's something flawed in your worldview where you think all cultures are equal and population numbers dictate growth innovation and quality. All false assumptions. Has China ever mass produced any quality goods? No, obviously not. Is this what all the shilling is about today? >>535640641How many CCP propaganda posts are they going to spam on pol today?Here's another >>535642654 and another >>535642014
>>535644061No wonder their cars are favored by FORD’s CEO. Can’t make cool shit without public tax dollar subsidies. Ww2 American company socialism at a 90% top tax rate is what made America great.
>>535635655How comes whenever I'm looking at cutting edge research papers there is always atleast half of the team with chinese names?
>>535629740There's no way this slop isn't made by glowies. Even the most ride or die Trumpfags that I know think he's a fat Israel loving faggot now
>>535644515Those research assistants are modern day coolies. They do all that assistant work for free and without that western university research programs wouldn't even work.Then these Chinese students go back to China with the knowledge they acquired and then you see an improved process coming from China a while later. But that somehow means China is losing.
>>53562857510 years out of date is not that much behind if it's their own fabs and not dutch based ones.Russia is probably 50 years behind and are the only other nation that made chips in scale tough only for military purposes.AMD itself is like 6 years behind nvdia, and 5 year ago china was 30 years behind nvdia, they are catching up fast they will probably be at nvdia level by 2031
>>535628575Good thing I've never put a single fucking dollar in the stock market
>>535628575If I don't make money I don't care.
Chinese are biggest electricity consumer, highest even if you combine usa+Eu.
>>535630075>>535636534Didn't the Great Leap Forward already happen? Now they believe they've been over counting their population.China is a capitalist state, but they still decide winners and losers.
>>535628575Mangape of heaven
>>535628575It's so over bros.
>>535628936AMD only existed to stop nvidia from being broken up
10 years out of date? So like GTX 1080 grade? uhhh, that's alot of ground they've covered in terms of GPU development - there's not actually been alot of innovation in the last 10 years that wasn't basically trivial.
>>535628575So China's GPUs are on par with a GTX 1080 meaning they can run every game ever at 1080p 60fps? Sounds good
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>>535633235it's close, slightly worse than a 4060
>>535628640>today they are making DDR5 chipsCool, where can I buy one?
>>535647141AMD has had the superior product in the consumer computing space for at least the last 5 years, probably longer.The 9800x3d and the 9070xt continue to be the best value available.
>>535628784What's not cope is the combined IQ of China vs anyone else.Avg IQ in China is 107 x 900million people.They didn't get resource until lately, but now they have resource and thebIQ behind it, I don't see how it's possible to stop them....unless....you had synthetic brains on your side with a higher combined IQ. Now everyone can understand why America Is all-in on AI. Time is limited as well, if AI fails for any reason, China will win the entire world.
>>535628575>>535628640>after China's graphics cards failed to meet expectations>Chinese electronics>failedHow could that be? :))) I have chinese made SD drives fail within 6 months. People who buy chinese electric cables in a small bulk, have to rewire them all .How can it possibly be?
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>>535651199>What's not cope is the combined IQ of China vs anyone else.It's all bullshit. China doesn't test candidates outside of big cities, in their provinces.Essentially if you add the real data, china's IQ will fall below 100.
>>535651540
>>535628640uh...China was nothing before the 60s anon...20 years ago it was still a manufacturing BEHEMOTH beyond anything we have in the west since 1945
>>535651894Ching a ling ding dong to you too
>>535651923ohhh you broken branch whitey no children yeeahhh! nigur and en Dian have many kids liku rabbit but you nooo e ooohh.Chinaman big dikku now, ah American pigguh? your women fuck niggers and your country is raped by kikes and Hindus.
>>535628575>A massive sell off started today after China's graphics cards failed to meet expectationsOk, link or it did not happened...>>535628640China lags behind at max 1 year behind the US, the only dominance America has in the semiconductor industry are gaming GPUs, China already surpassed America in AI Accelerators.
>>535628640We've been having this same thread for decades. 2014 was huge for China threads.One look at Chinas demographics and the state of their youth, they don't have any more chances left.
>>535628784>tf>tp
>>535628575I'd happily buy a $500 Chinese graphics card with 2016 specs if it hastened the death of America.
I mean they’re not *that* far behind. Tests showed about 5 years. Changs did one of their fashy corpo plans for it and likely will come close to par for a lower price in the next 24 months.
>>535647029>less than half the performance of the S&PGrim
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>>535656727
>>535628640china is built on a foundation of lies and deceitthey can mimic but cannot create
All White nationalists support the rise of the chink empire. I wouldn't go so far and buy their crappy cards but whatever. Do the RAM now, Xi! Smash the price (((cartel))) of your fellow riceniggers.
I will buy it to support the efforts.
>>535656229What are Chinese Yuan for 100 points.
>>535651540Those oft cited IQ tests weren't conducted by the CCP mutt and there is no indication that only wealthier regions are tested. Those results are also reinforced by similar scores in Chinese majority countries outside the mainland.
>>535643945Yeah, I should have bought Intel.
>>535628575Cheng's products are low quality?Imagine my shock
>>535628575"we are not a car"
>>535628575i don't play games made past 2016 anyway
>>535630123Wait what? No one wants to buy cheap Chinese bullshit anymore. Not even Chinese citizens want to buy cheap Chinese shit anymore. Domestic product sales for China only grew 0.02% in 2025-2026. This means foreign money is the only source of income for China now which is also drying up, because companies are sick and tired of Chinese factories leaking blueprints for new designs for new products.For example, look at the BYD cars. They are literally tesla clones with vastly cheaper components. The BYD car shells are plastic withe exact tesla molds. ITs laughable that China ever thought they would be a super power when all they do is steal ideas. This is the only way communism can cling to life. KEK
>>535653762The market for local llms and generative models is tiny; and for now I havent come across any problem that couldnt be done by a 10 year old GTX
