I work in a funeral home and sometimes help the families cleaning out the homes. One thing I've noticed recently is the amount of clutter in these boomer homes. Nothing valuable just cheap crap they never bothered to throw out. Now it's up to their kids to rent a dumpster and dispose of it all.Why do old people cling to material items?
i still hoard old consoles and pc components from 20yrs ago despite knowing i'll never use them for anything again.
>>535639452The best thing parents and grandparents can hoarder is investments.
>>535639452My dad does this. I'm going to have SO much stupid shit to sell on eBay in the future.
>>535639619That no one will buy. You’d probably have to pay to get them thrown away
In the boomer mind stuff = status.
>>535639515i mean those are actually valuable though/ old console games in particular you can resell for 100$s
>>535639452This wilp be yours too
>>535639452you should see my hoard
>>535639662Probably true. I don't know why boomers hoard stuff that won't hold any value to anyone in the future.
The fact that the jew article writers started pushing decluttering and minimalism a few years before massive currency inflation has escaped a few of you.
>>535639452>>535639515I wish I would have hoarded my consoles because I handed it down to my cousins and they destroyed them within a year
>>535639452It's laziness usually. They will lose their pliers in their garage and instead of looking for them would go to the store and buy more pliers. That's a boomer in a nutshell
>>535639452part sentimentalism and sunk cost fallacy run amokpart the fact that some things are just useful to keep but you may just never find an actual use for thembut if you toss it out guaranteed you'll end up finding said use after you haveI hoard wires and power cables and shit like thatscrews, I have so many fucking machine screws I'll never use, but I have ended up using a couplebut then my mom has endless chotchkies and mathoms that are useless, decorative shit she doesn't even have out anymore it's just packed up sitting
>>535639779they were programmed to be sentimental. ask a boomer, why are you being sentimental for so much? they don't even know what the word means.
>>535639779simplei have kept/dragged around some stuff for years, decades even.finally got rid of itneeded the exact same thing the next dayhow to test if you are dealing with a hoarder?just ask: what do you need that for?typical answer: it will come in handy one dayt. hoarder, big hoarderi have a 2k sqf shop, just the shop, FULL of thingsFULLsince shit is going to collapse, it will come in handy...mostly tools and supplies and equipment...
Soon Grandkids will be receiving Grandmothers Only Fans back catalogues and their 100 year mortgage pod as the inheritance
>>535639909my mom doesn't like washing kitchen shit so she has 3-5 copies of every conceivable kitchen utensilshe'll use them and stick them in the sink and grab the next clean one, sink ends up getting choked with 6 fucking spatulas and 5 can openers and 4 of the same fucking skillet
>my mom has boxes of toys we grew up playing with>this is so she can have toys for her grandkids to play with when they come over>one sister is a dyke, another is a liberal girlboss, and i'm an incel so no grandchildren are happening
>>535639953>mathomsbased hobbit
>>535639953>I hoard wires and power cables and shit like that>screws, I have so many fucking machine screwsrecycle them for a few bucks then you wont feel like you wasted them. icw is like 2$ a lb atm
>>535639452Laziness. My parents thought hoards the cheap stuff away from the expensive stuff. They want the children of my children to inherit it and use it as a bullshit archeological commodity in the middle 2100s since the electronics, paintings, and pottery is still in pristine condition. It's probably going to be a 100 dollar antique but they are diamond handsing it worse than the dutch tulip crisis. As for the cheap shit, might find a usecase of just scrap and burn the rest.
>>535639619My dad died, whole house was like this. Not even worth sifting through. The rent jannies can clean it up for the next tenant.
>>535639452You haven't seen real hoarding, chump. When my great grandmother died, we found over 15,000 cans of food in her house, along with nearly a ton of dry goods. She had lived through the great depression and was for damned sure gonna be ready if there was a next one.
>>535640237>he doesn't know history is fake
>>535640110it's a great word that fits that shit>>535640123good idea, but they don't take up that much space, all in a couple boxes, and I spent a weekend a few years ago separating and organizing them fairly well, so it's not like a hoard pile anymoreit does feel nice when you need a power adapter and find you have the right one from some other thing from like 12 years ago but it may not be worth the storage when you could find a new one for a couple dollars online
>>535640237What kind of dry goods good chum?
>>535639452I literally experienced this exact scene with my retired aging father. Just a house full of crap. 99% of it will be thrown out, as it has zero value.
>>535639619And absolutely no one will buy. Look up some of the shit he has right now on ebay. Now imagine hundreds of thousands of them being listed. My buddy bought a house at auction as is and it turned out the old owner used to own one of the video rental places in town. Well he found a bunch of old media and media players like beta max. Shit isn't worth a damn. I told him to keep the stuff that isn't opened but everything else is just garbage.
>>535639452They're gamers, but IRL
>>535639452Why do American throw out their furniture instead of getting it reaphulstered?
>>535640337>everything else is just garbage.again, you can recycle that stuff, at an e-waste recycler. >>535640281youre legit boomer coded. why even keep piles of wires when youre gonna die in 20 years?
>>535639452My dad used to collect swatch watches, CD's, model trains, model race cars and magazines. Most of it has never left its casing nor will be used ever again.The day he dies, I know I'm gonna have to spend at least a week putting all that shit on ebay, with no idea of any of its value. Most likely will just break even in paying for the rest of it to be thrown away.No idea why this collection mindset was so dear to him and can't even beggin to comprehend the money squandered with it.Certainly pushed me into living a very minimalist lifestyle, and I will make sure I clear all my material possessions way in advance so my kids dont have to deal with such bullshit.
>>535640415>reaphulstered
>>535640442Recycling is still just throwing it out. Garbage was meant to be a catch all phrase that denotes no value, not actual non recyclable, non compostable waste.
>>535639851I threw out a decade of the economist... 1995-2005... They are actually worth something, and were well written by intelligent men... It's not the same publication today...
>>535640415It's Chinese garbage. You've no idea of how far we've fallen here in the US.>>535640322Lol I threw out a ton of my parents shit when I moved out while they were in Europe. Literally truckloads of shit that took me over two weeks. They don't speak to me much anymore but they haven't complained about missing anything either.Fucking trash everywhere.
>>535639452My mom has the worst bedroom imaginable. Boxes stacked on top of boxes, and no clear walking path in the room. She hasn't cleaned her room in 30-40 years.
>>535640415if you don't know how to do it yourself it's usually more expensive to have that done than just buying another, not like we all have this high quality antique shit that's worth thatsome $300 ikea couch isn't worth reupholstering>>535640442hey man, at least what I keep is somewhat conceivably useful
>Why do old people cling to material items?You develop a frugal mindset after taking multiple hits in life, start looking at things like "hmm, I may need this widget sometime in the future, better keep it around", get tied up with all the other shit happening in your life, die. Don't worry: it will happen to you.
>>535640461>magazineslol, lmao>>535640522oh fair enough, ngl im a bit ocd about recycling.
>>535640322I tried bringing this up with my parents. Explaining that it will literally just be me cleaning out the house since there's no other family members nearby. I told them everything is going in the dumpster and they could do me a favor by downsizing ahead of time. They would get absolutely furious hearing that.
>>535639452....but not the house I'm selling that.
my mother does it its fucking insane i can see a hoader in myself but i try to change
>>535639706What would you pay for a PS3?
>>535639452Books as legacy is good i think. Not only the book themselves, but their selection says much.
>>535640482>The Root (upholder): Upholsterer itself evolved from the Middle English word upholder (or upholderer), which referred to a craftsman or merchant who repaired and kept goods. It comes from the verb "to uphold".Holy! It seems to actually be an English derived word. Crazy, cray.
>>535639452The younger generations prob hoard files on their computer nowadays.
>>535640638im talking about shit like mario all stars, which sells for 200$, lots of nes and snes games even n64 games are worth bank, i personally wouldnt buy any of them. if youre 90 yo grandpa had a ps3 then just play it? idk what you want me to say.
>>535640638those aren't worth shit, the ones older than you are the ones worth money
>>535639619As someone who has gone through a boomer's hoard I can assure you that almost none of it will be worth anything. Guns, jewelry, cars, and maybe a few other things will hold some value but the rest of it just pure junk. When your dad finally dies have a junk removal service ready to go because 99% of it isn't worth the effort. The worst part is if you're trying to sift through their shit while they are still alive and trying to explain to them that no one wants to buy some crappy old chair or lamp.
>>535640664Good point but they're heavy AF. I've scaled back 2/3rds of my book collection. It's too much of a burden to move around even as a young man. Still have 3 or 4 totes full.
>>535639706None of that shit is valuable and will go into the trash when you doe.
>>535640547>they don't speak to me much anymore When I finally move out I won't have any family to talk to >mother is angriest person I've ever met, and very abusive >dad has alzheimers >both older brothers believe I'm lying about how my mom has behavedI won't have any family once I move out. It's extremely depressing to go through the sequence of events and see where it's all ending. Absolute craziness. Oh, and I'm the only one in the family who didn't get vaxxed
>>535640664Only if you teach the value of analog media and the value of work that cant be edited while you aren't looking to your descendants, otherwise why would they bother? Most shit is online anyway and they can look it up if they want too. And this is coming from someone who likes to collect books
>>535639452I can confirm this, I do cleanouts on reverse mortgaged homes. Some boomers have entire sections of their homes that are inaccessible due to the boxes of crap they hoard. Boomers love buying clothing and tools, and NEVER using them. They tend to accumulate a fuckton of Christmas decorations, and they keep broken appliances around thinking they will be fixed one day. They also get in on shopping trends from the internet. Boomers go nuts buying up shit like Stanley bottles and the squishy slime things for retards, because that was the one thing they could understand from the internet and social media. Some of these boomers likely died of heart attacks from fighting their way through crowds to buy stupid shit.All of this crap goes to the landfill once people pick out the "goodies". Unfortunately boomers buy lots of shit but don't maintain their houses, so all these things have bad roofs and mold everywhere. Most of the stuff is rotted with mold or rusted from leaking water running over it for months. For all the talk about how younger generations waste money, boomers are proven to be niggerbrain spenders to the bitter end.
>>535639515same. I still have the space in the house untouched me and my brother left almost 20 years ago
>>535640745In 50 or even 20 years i doubt all these digital book collections on disks or internet will be available.
>>535640711Thats only because Nintendo doesnt remaster alot of their stuff. Once they do, all that old media will be worthless
>>535640547>>535640564It was different for boomers. Instead of buying a new cheap couch/shoes/clothes that wear out and can't be repaired... They would save for good shoes, because good shoes you could repair and wear for a decade instead of getting Chinese cardboard shoes every year ... Some outright made their own furniture;if you break a couch, you'll see there's really nothing to it...But I agree, if you don't have the space or the income to break out (escape velocity) you're stuck owning nothing and being happy.
>>535639619Fuckin namefag
>>535639515quick, rent the dumpster, God look at all this crap gramps was hoarding, couldn't he just have bought an iPhone and played games on that like we all did?
>>535640461these hobbies are like /pol/ for them .. they have an excuse to meet other people with similar interests without the bother of worrying if they'll be understood .. collecting is the entry price for good frens
>>535640711>>535640725>from 20yrs ago
>>535640618100%I have told my mom that all the crap she's been holding onto will just be thrown in the garbage when she dies. None of her junk is worth keeping, and I've begged her for years to declutter the house.I literally say, "the day after you die we're throwing this junk away."Though I probably won't be a part of it since my family has all betrayed me and I'll be without anyone once I move
>>535640573ThisTake a few hits and watch 20 years pass you by in an instant. Next thing you know you are in hospice and can't sort through all your shit anyways.
>>535639452>A fridge that lasts more than 4 years and consumes half than a modern one.Thanks gramps. You're the best.
>>535640773Lots of people in that sitsi. I was too. Mother spend decades telling everyone how horrible I am. Don't have any emotional attachment to her anymore at all.Best thing you can do is go no contact. My dad still likes me and that's enough. I have memories from when my mom wasn't a shithead, as much, and those sre nice too.People change when they get old man. Nice guy could be a shithead. People who haven't lived long don't have that frame of reference so I totally feel you. None of my relatives interact with me at all. It's always through my mom despite me being a middle aged man. Crazy AF how abusive and controlling she was.
>>535640848way things are going there will be much considered 'illegal' 'wrongthink' 'incorrect histories' I see ai and surveillance state being used to structure very limited and approved culture and history, just like China did only more thorough .. archives will be kept in Universities and approved Institutions with linited access.
>>535640848Really? I digitized most of my collection on a raspberry pi. I think it's sufficient for me. Books are more fragile than you think they. I can drop a flash drive into a waterproof pelican and have the equivalent of the library at Alexandria no problem.
>>535639619Ive learned only certain items will sell on ebay. The problem is shipping. 80% of items will never sell on ebay for even 0 profit where you literally only charge the cost of shipping and packaging. You have to sell at a loss to sell on ebay, except certain items people gooble up.
>>535640573I've noticed that some well-made durable items I bought for relatively cheap 10-20 years ago are still available, but they cost 2-3x what they did then. Now when I see things that I MIGHT need but I'm not sure, I want to pull the trigger because I might not be able to afford them in the future.
>>535640079Kek based.If a woman doesn't have grandkids it's squarely on her.
>>535640999So like 1984. It was supposed to be a warning, not and instruction.
>>535639452good hoarding:coinsstampscardscomicsvintage bookswatchesartcars basically $$$$ collectables bad hoarding:"china" tupperware figurines baby toysdolls nicknacks basically junk women buy
>>535640711bear in mind the retro game price boom is a limited time fad. Zoomers and beyond dont care about them and feel no connection to them. Sell sometime in the next 10-20 years as these are peak 80s and 90s still manchildren disposable income years.
>>535640858yeah but even the core materials in most shit isn't of any quality to re-cover with new upholsterytalking thousands for anything that is, and then it makes more sense to do the grandma shit covering it all in plastic>>535640900it's really how old it is +rarity, a shit ton of ps3's were made & releasedsomething like the astrocade had a few thousand made and released, and they're so old not that many survive in any kind of good condition, especially since collecting them and saving them unopened was a super rare mentality at the time
>>535641046Shipping costs really killed most ebay sales. It's why I no longer even try to sell shit there. I can't sell a $10 item and expect the buyer to pay $15 shipping.
>>535640665Kek le ESL had to look it up in the dictionary to get the correct spelling.
>>535639452My dad had "collectible" Three Stooges Coke bottles. Imagine holding onto something so stupid. I drank them.My father was a literal hoarder. I grew up surrounded by mold and would wake up covered in cockroaches. My great-grandfather made a living as a barber. He bought an apartment complex and my grandfather grew up to be a millionaire back when it meant something. He died, my grandmother wasted all that money, and I grew up in poverty. My aunt stole the house my father jointly owned and then also died.More than a decade later and I'm reading this thread struggling to think of one useful thing I kept when he died. A knife I used a few times comes to mind. Nothing much else, not even a car.What a wasteful life. I couldn't tie my shoes or tell time until I was 8. Fucking appalling.
>>535641028don't you have trouble reading complex lengthy texts on a display ? ePaper is better .. I just do not have one though, keep meaning to buy one, but I deel waiting for a better version to come on the market .. kindle was rubbish.
>>535640900
>>535640971>go full no contactThat's what I'll be doing. There will be no reason for me to talk to her. She's even the kind of person who would write me out of the will. Less than 10 years ago I would've said that my brothers wouldn't ever let that happen, and that they'd make sure i get my inheritance, but with how they both are now I am 100% convinced that they would support excluding me from an inheritance. I'm not just losing my family, I'm likely losing my inheritance. I still have God, but I don't see much joy in my future
>>535640461>Certainly pushed me into living a very minimalist lifestyle, and I will make sure I clear all my material possessions way in advance so my kids dont have to deal with such bullshit.This and same. I already wrote a will and I'm only in my 30s.
>>535641065I used to check out clearance items all the time... Like the same brand comes out with the cheaper version of the product (like bodum started doing) the older stock goes on clearance.... You get it for half or a third of what it retailed... So I stock on that... Get corning at thrift stores.Bought enough laundry detergent to last me years... Anything but having too much cash on hand which is losing like 5% purchasing power every year, if not more.
>>535641164Yea i have multiple items that have been up for months now, price tags on the items are how much the boxes and tape to ship them cost, but because shipping is like $50 people dont want to spend $55 on a used item, even if the new item sells in amazon for $60 or more.
>>535641295Kek
>>535641212Finding joy is kind of your purpose though. It's tough and not going to get better. Might as well take a moment to relax and enjoy something. Read some King Solomon.
>>535641182Not really. It's mostly scans of books I had or was interested in from my collection. It sucks but the alternative is never reading them.You can back them up in audio form too which is really nice. Also text to voice reading is really good RN so if you had word copies of the book you could just listen to it if it bothered you.
>>535641295That's me...
>>535641242>This and same. I already wrote a will and I'm only in my 30s.i often wonder whomst ill leave my things to, since i dont have kids and probably never will. maybe a charity but those are often scams, feels bad man.
>>535641175Polyglot actually. I like to look up the etymology of things. It's how I learn. Never needed to learn to spell... It's pointless really, nobody is impressed by spelling.
>>535641435adopt a neet from /soc/ and leave it to them
I think it's because they were born in a time when household goods were a hundred times more expensive and accumulated in families over generations. When mass produced junk became cheap, as it was a generational habit they clung onto it and hoarded junk as well. Many boomers also believe this junk to include antiques, when really its just junk they overpaid for. And the "market" for antiques is something I'm highly, highly sceptical of. It's just a ponzi. This will give birth to the zoomers, who own only the clothes on their backs, rent everything, and from who everything will be repossessed.
>>535641583>when household goods were a hundred times more expensive and accumulated in families over generations.that was also pre-planned obsolescence too, when you could buy a fucking mixer or a sewing machine and it'd last 80-100+ yearsnothing now is made to do anything but require replacement soon after the warranty runs out
I threw away half my house when I moved. Stuff I had been hanging out to for no reason or nostalgia. Stuff that might have been worth money but I was too lazy to sell it. I don’t miss any of it
>>535639452>Why do old people cling to material items?Not everyone can handle consciously preparing their homes for when they die.
>>535641046>>535641164I run an ebay store. I do ok. The problem is definitely that shipping costs have increased to the point that a lot of items no longer make sense to sell.One tip: bundle items together. It costs me $4.47 to ship one dvd.Two dvds still only costs me $4.47Three DVDs still only costs me $4.47.4 dvds befomes like $5.275 dvds is still 5.276 dvds is still 5.27Doing the math, selling one DVD costs $4.47 in shipping per dvd, but selling 6 dvds brings the per-DVD shipping cost to less than $1Any time I have a dvd that can't sell for a profit it gets added to a box of other dvds so I can bundle them and sell for a profit.
>>535641538>nobody is impressed by spellingYet you continue making an effort to spell your words correctly. It's almost as if you know that you will be taken less seriously by everyone if your spelling is poor, but hey, it doesn't matter to you at all right? I'm sure you make the effort purely out of whimsy.
>>535640415Because most Americans think a new $5000 couch is overpriced, a used wooden-framed couch esp antique is just old and probably full of bugs, and buy the $750 couch from China instead. And this has been going on long enough they don't even know they *can* get antique furniture reupholstered. Also, a lot of people can't imagine what something would look like in a different color with new fabric. It's really weird.
>>535641583Antiques are dead. The market got completely destroyed in a way I've never seen when the silent generation died. Boomers don't have grand estates anymore so they had no use of antiques in the way a large family living in a Victorian or colonial home did.You can buy pieces that were thousands for scrap wood prices on eBay rn.Used to be heavily involved in it since I lived in the older portion of the US in the 90s. Now I don't own ANY antiques and threw away a chair that was in my family for 200 years just a little while ago. No one wants that shit.
>>535641435I know how you feel. Opened a tax free investment account, have to name someone to inherit it. All I got is my dad FFS!
>>535641435Just bite the bullet and impregnate a seamonkey. If your genes are strong enough they'll come out white and you can love them.
great depression and those raised by the people affected by it
>>535640461> I know I'm gonna have to spend at least a week putting all that shit on ebayThere are people that will do that for you for a fee. Ask on local social media groups.>with no idea of any of its value.There's the rub
>>535641684That a solid strategy, but I can't help to ask, who the fuck buys DVDs?
>>535641710Also don't forget. Most "Americans" hate Americans that lived before them. They have NO cultural association with old WASPs. Generically and culturally they're not their ancestors.Also a huge part of it. I wouldn't put some Chinese folding chairs in my house and most new "Americans" feel the same way about old wasp furniture.
>>535641733>picrelatedWTF?!?
>>535641783>impregnate a seamonkeywouldnt it be easier and more pleasurable just to get a fat/ugly white woman?
>>535641715People still pay top dollar for MCM, but anything older than that can usually be found for free.
So whst Thats what a house is for
>>535641686Spell check does it for me.I'd you're too focused on spelling, you'll fall for spells. My neurons were allocated to next things during development... >>535641710I do interior design and renovation for super rich Israelites and other Jews... They will spend all this money on exclusive stuff, but it's really just glued together or engineered materials... It's the sort of toxic furniture I would never put in my house... I don't understand why nobody tells them...
>>535639452My father is the worst, he literally buys multiples of things he likes "just in case"
>>535641783>impregnate a seamonkey...so, do you just jizz in the water, or what
>Grandparents have a garage full of useless shit you couldn't sell if you tried>Parents have a garage that's halfway full of useless shit you couldn't sell, but also there's some toys in there like ATVs with flat tires from never being used and a shitload of bikes and tools>I can't even afford a place with a garage, which I would love to use for it's intended purpose to keep the sun from raping the clearcoat on my project car People lost the plot on garages so long ago we just look at them like vacant DIY rooms.
>>535641668Totally valid, but a fine line between never failed and never used. Unless these objects have proven value, they could well be flimsy junk from decades ago. >>535641715Bingo. It was the generational bitcoin market. Antiques had only social value, which saw them shilled for decades through elaborate ponzis until the bombers died, leaving objects of precisely zero value to anyone else.
>>535641795There are basement meets/old men who have archives in their basements... Met this one guy, he would go dumpster diving at university libraries to rescue first and second editions of rare books that they would throw out for pulping ... His house is bookshelves everywhere... Resells them.
Owning things means success in their generation. They come from a time when housing was cheap so the things in your home mattered more than the home itself.
>>535642001>a fine line between never failed and never used.true, but usually you can tell the difference when you go to pick up some old kitchen appliance and it weighs as much as an anvil
>>535641715This. It's really shocking. Even mid-century art by famous artists is going for a fraction of what it did 10-20 years ago. You'd think the mid-century decor trend would keep that afloat, but it's very much about midwit popular decoration, not fine art.Fine china and silver plate is unsurprising but the volume of it, the volume of it. Solid silverware sets go for melt value, and are getting melted down for cash, too.
>>535641995Seamonkeys kinda look like jizz.
>parents finally get around to cleaning up the garage or some room>it looks clean and neat for the first time in decades>it gets filled with crap again within weeks
>>535639515Those are potentially valuable collectors items that will only go up in value as they become more rare.
>>535642100looks just like his father
>>535641795>Who buys dvds? My customers. I make thousands of sales every year.Yesterday I sold a dvd for $99.99 that I bought for $5. I have like 40 of them left. I'm averaging about $3000 in sales weekly, with 700-1200 of it being profit
>>535641668I don't know if there is a grand conspiracy of "planned obsolescence" I think everything is just made of pot metal and shitty motors. Get just a functioning product out the door that will last long enough that nobody will be assed to return it. People don't really have loyalty to any brands these days either and will go for the cheapest option usually. I make products that I know are shit that people still like. Im just trying to extract as much capital with my products before the Chinese rip them off and use my product photos in their listings.
>>535642147This is literally what my grandparents said about their ceramic figurines.
>>535642215Electronics are functional, Hummel's aren't.
>>535642109Man I remember doing two weekend-long cleanups with the WHOLE family involved on my parents garage and you're right, it does not stay clean enough for you to see it clean or walkable by the next holiday visit.
>>535640461Yes lose your material belongings and be depenand on a network and electronic media for everything. It works until it doesnt.
>>535641797I think we're in violent agreement. It can be shocking when the mask comes off. And I hate to use the phrase, but when they have money, it's usually "new money" and they want to show off new stuff.
Maybe they have the inspiration that the world is going to shit and those things will be needed in the future.
>>535640539Jewish rag
>>535639452boomers are very invested in the world and are therefore destined for hell.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVB70a-3Vk&ra=m
>>535639452My brother in law's father passed and he had like ten truck/trailer loads of random rusted metal shit around his property, several thousand dollars worth at the yard. That's not counting either kf the dumpster loads of non-metal garbage.
>opens boomer garage>its full of emeralds, silk clothes, exotic spices, and heroin bricks.
>>535639452A few years ago my parents bought a house. The owner was a boomer and had the house full of boomer shit. His family assumed it was all garbage so they left all of that for us to clean up.Besides the rugs and the old clothes, there were some old computer parts (including half a dozen of brand new 500 GB hard drives), a collection of silver coins, silver cutlery, a surround sound system that was never installed and an old PC that I use to play old XP-era japanese porn games.
>>535642271Yeah, except when that pile of electronics can be functionally replaced by your phone, and old electronics will need recapped eventually and so on.Hummels? Who knows? After they all go into dumpsters, or get used for target practice, maybe there's be a fad for them as decor. Stranger things have happened.
>>535640971>None of my relatives interact with me at all. It's always through my mom despite me being a middle aged manSame, im never called in person by my family for events, its always through my parents. Even if they can hear my voice in the background, they never ask for me to pick up the phone, not once. But im 26.>>535641212I would shoot my entire family if they did this or burn down the house.
I helped clean out a relatives house recently. >hundreds of pounds of scented candles >THOUSANDS of dollars worth of holiday decorations sorted by category, used for one year, and put away wrapped upThere were about forty big totes full of holiday decorations. This family used to have it all. The great grandpa was an engineer who worked on huge projects and owned his own machine shop, and over the generations, the family fell apart. Scattered with nothing to show for it but the last house with three generations worth of stuff in it. There was some late 1800s Victorian furniture, though.
WTF (Why the Fuck) every time I log in to 4Chan, I now feel like a targeted individual?
>>535639452Ah more hate your parents and hate your granparents shit, hate your family shit directed at retards for retards and sometimes by retards, like OP
>>535642271unless you are handy at sourcing capacitors and micro soldering .. collecting donor boards (specialising) and are will to wait to recoup your investment I'd say collecting electronics is every bit as useless as collecting Hummels.
>>535639515>Collectors itemsYou’re good desu
>>535639619My mother. Ugh
>>535642481>functionally replaced by your phoneNo, I can't plug my phone into a CRT TV and play Mega Man X on it.
>>535642201>Im just trying to extract as much capital with my products before the Chinese rip them off and use my product photos in their listings.>I don't know if there is a grand conspiracy of "planned obsolescence" it doesn't have to be conspiratory if everyone has the same mentality, you knowstock market is really to blame, every product has this ceiling of maximum customers and the only way for even the most successful company to keep profit margins and thus stock values rising is making the products fail sooner, so another has to be boughtit's pretty well known they'll design shit in ways to do just that, heat sensitive chips and shit being placed close to shit generating heat, forced updates on smartphones that gradually exceed the product specs, et ceterait definitely goes on since it's not illegal, so of course it's done if it's not prohibited, just how capitalism works here
>>535642520>sourcing capacitorsThe internet exists>solderingI learned in high school. Any retard can solder.
>>535642502Because im good at writing you ungrateful shitYoud never suck my cock and i resent that
>>535642543Well, don't you sound "functional"
>>535641833>wouldnt it be easier and more pleasurable just to get a fat/ugly white woman?no i literally tried and i cant fuck a woman im not attracted to.
>>535641028Until a sunstorm/carrington event or even some environmental electromagnetic hazard. Or memory failure.
The truly soleless engage in these shilled attacks on their grandparents and parents. The most braindead scum of he earth heavily promoted by the CCP on reddit and tiktok same as mao did during the cultural revolution, try the generational divide and target the most immoral and stupid young people to be vicious soulless 'socialist' haters of their parents and grandparents before you dispose of them when they stop becoming useful for subversion
>>535641715>Antiques are dead.How much do I have to shout this from the fucking rooftops? Millennials and Zoomers do not have the fucking disposable income for these pursuits. Why can't you wrap your brains around this? Furniture and appliance sales are in the shitter. Why? BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD A FUCKING HOUSE HOW DO I GIVE A SINGLE FUCKING SHIT ABOUT AN ANTIQUE WHEN I AM TOO FUCKING POOR TO AFFORD A SPACE TO PUT IT IN
>>535642737Boomers are ontologically evil
>>535639452Did any of them have old pokemon cards?
>>535642539>My mother. UghShe shat you out through her cunt and wiped your arse and fed you and gave you a warm bed.(you)...ugh. Well done, you are worthless subhuman thrash because you wanted to belong to a gang of brain dead sheep shilled at by the CCP to hate their own families and parents like vicious little retards
>>535642691>i cant fuck a woman im not attracted to.speaking from experience this become more problematic the older you get .. women generally do not age well .. the dating pool is pretty thin for men looking for women 34 years their junior. This isn't Pakistam after all.
>>535642781No you are and painfully stupid and soulless.
All i really want is for every boomers garage be filled with tools of their trade, so i know who to visit to ask, for what
>>535642901
>>535642737Boomers left a world for their children worse than the one they received. No amount of non arguments is going to make that not true.
>>535639452It's the final "fuck you" to the boomers kids, having to rent a dumpster to throw all their bullshit out.
>>535642551Aside from smartphone updates I always just chalked it up to bad design or trying to extract as much margin from a product as possible.You could design a broom with a wooden handle that would last 40 years or you could make a piece of shit swiffer with a telescoping handle that will just fuck up, but it fits neatly into a tiny box for shipping.I don't design my products to last forever, but I don't design them for someone to come and rebuy them later either. They work just enough. Im sitting on a second version of my product right now that I wont even release because it just makes my job of assembly more annoying. I know the product I have now is going to fuck up but in 2-3 years the tool its made for might not even be around. Basically what im trying to say is that everything is gay retarded slop and we would all probably be better of innawoods.
>>535642958Go post your shitskin kike propaganda somewhere else you dog faced monkey
ITT worthless soulless rats attacking the elderly and heir own parents so they can 'belong' to he shilled a by chinese communists tiktok club. The very dregs.
>>535640963>.t Palantir empolyee w/ stock options.
>>535642832>women generally do not age wellThe frustrating part about this is "woman logic" and how a lot of them rationalize terrible lifestyle habits and cannot be persuaded out of them. They end up looking like blimps or the cryptkeeper as a result.
>>535640573>>535640960I have a bag of tools. What the fuck else do I need lying around "just in case"?
>>535642995Triggers Broom Award https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAh8HryVaeY
>>535642958With the right tools a 100 yr old man can do anything a young man could do
>>535642968You're full of muh precious CCP Maoist intergenerational hatred garbage and have betrayed your own parents and grandparents. You're beyond being scum, you are pure liquid shit.
>>535642823>wiped your arse and fed you and gave you a warm bed.you have no idea how many single mothers there are that only do this because child abuse / endangerment / etc. is illegal.
>>535643101Youre decades younger than me shut up
>>535643101And you're drunk, paddy.
>>535639452Boomer phrase i've heard several times before>he who dies with the most toys winstotally brain broken retard generation of absolute faggots, the worst of the worst until the zoomers crawled out of their holes.
>>535641803Probably a sandwich made for dad but put in the wrong lunchbox kek
>>535642767If you need a chair for your shithole apartment, where do you get it? It's not just you, it's the whole dysfunction of "neither from family nor both used and nice nor do you or almost anyone else know good from bad".
>>535642737Well said
>>535642968it boils down to there being too many peoplethat's ittoo many people by a factor of 8-10it will collapse, like any biological system, that grows exponentiallywhen i moved to the greater vancouver area in bc 30 years ago, it was still kind of ok and livablehouses were AFFORDABLE in vancouvernow? a crazy anthill where you cannot get from a to breason?too many people, nothing elsea picture book example of a beautiful place getting wrecked by overpopulationthat's all that changed therelived through it and saw the change happeningnature will clean it upbtw, jooos are comical...
>>535643085not. old man
>>535639452What's the most interesting thing you've stolen from the elderly you work with?
>>535643212One thing I've heard a lot growing up>what do you want to be when you grow up>i want to do x job>lol you're never going to make money working for someone elseWho the fuck said that was my goal in life? Why would I want to work 100 hours a week owning a business when I'll never get to enjoy the money I earn. A lot of them really had this mentality life was about earning the most amount of money you can at all cost.
>>535643261We can't afford to know good from bad. Boomers got a choice. We didn't.
>>535643101The big thing today is socialism shilling through all its forms. And socialism hates families and historic memory.
>>535643397you suck anon. don't steal from the elderly.
>>535643387You gotta believe, for the Greater Good.
Tools are Europemaxxed.
>>535641102My grandmother squandered the money she got from my grandfather by spending it on fucking porcelain statues and baby dolls.I understand fully why women weren't allowed to have credit cards or bank accounts and we need to go back to that.
>>535643444Boo hoo. Most people don't know good from bad. Period. You have to choose to learn.
>>535643329I have always said that everyone wants air conditioning. If we gave everyone air conditioning we would have to scale power output like 4-5x from where we are now.Everything is going to be squeezed towards the middle. Third world becomes second, and first world becomes second. We used to be able to do geoarbitrage because we had some competitive advantage, but that divide gets smaller everyday. The next decade is going to be pure shit lol.
>>535641435Nice stack, anon.
>>535643329The socialists (through international banking and big capital) fucked natural production in favor of industry so that they would feed foreign nations, then import the to ruin their former base of operations. Then all the coutries will be poor and average person would accept socialism (that is erasure of freedom and distinct personality) to jump (or being forced) into a mass borg style entity. Want to know the historical masks that socialism had? National socialism, socialdemocracy and others. They want to be assimilated and assimilate others too.
>>535641126Nah, they going to be worth nothing because all these disks will just stop working in 20 years from now.There's an expiration date for everything expect Land and Gold
>>535643509I'll remember to say "boo hoo" to you as you die alone and neglected by some nigger hospice nurse alone and forgotten. Try to bootstraps then ok?
>>535643329It's overcrowded explicitly because kikes imported millions of cow niggers
>>535639452I believe it stems from having relatively little as children. Boomers were kids before "free trade" and the flood of chinese walmart plastic shit. So they thought they would give their kids everything they didn't have. But they also are obsessed with "getting a bargain," so they'll buy substandard shit that doesn't work to "save" $40, then it breaks instantly. But they also were raised by depression parents who taught them not to throw anything away. So they pile shit up until it fills every square inch of every basement and attic and garage and then the rest of the house.I have tried and begged and pleaded with my mother to just get us one thing for Christmas if she really wants to get us something, or to get an experience instead of a thing, like lessons or tickets, and to stop blowing $300 on plastic junk from the dollar store I end up throwing away in January. But she just cannot stop. And she does it to herself too. So she owns an incredible quantity of shit that's all of terrible quality. But somehow strolling isles for garbage marked "CLEARANCE" with 3 prices crossed out is a dopamine extravaganza for her, so she'll never stop. And she is very proud and wants to tell you about how she "only" paid $13.99 for whatever piece of absolute trash she is showing you.
>>535643676Ugh dont get me started on the Gold and Ammo trap
>>535642109You're lucky. My family failed to even accomplish that>garage filled with all sorts of shit that no one uses and has no value>take everything out of the garage>put everything back, but "neater"I am the youngest in my family, and I was the only one who understood that we were accomplishing almost nothing despite everyone's day being taken up.Eventually I refused to participate because they refused to throw things away. Imagine removing all the junk from the garage...and then IMMEDIATELY just putting it back in.Oh, and by "neater" I mean everything stacked as tightly together as possible so that as soon as a person needs 1 thing he has to move everything around to get to it, and by the time he's done the garage looks as bad as it was before. Insane.
>>535639452i'm not dealing with my mom's shit when she dies. i know i know. i'm just not gonna deal with it. HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>535641102>good hoarding:>coins>stamps>cards>comics>vintage books>watches>art>cars>basically $$$$ collectablesMost of these depreciate, are *extremely* illiquid (books lmao, and I have a house full of them), and subject to fashion. Have a nice collection or two because you enjoy the hobby and rotate things on display in your house, don't just keep them in boxes. Don't consider it an investment.At some point there is going to be a guitar apocalypse if it hasn't started already. I groan inside whenever I see the massive boomer guitar collection in the backgroun of a video or zoom call.
>>535639452You people are retards who generally dont know what some things are worth. Yes, a good 75% of its going to be garbage, but theres plenty of weird things that you would NEVER think hold value that actually do, and if you took 15 minutes and looked that shit up and then listed it on several places (many of which you can do for free or pennies on the dollar), it most definitely can become a passive income stream. Even those shitty little chotsky porcelain junk statues have "ironic" collectors (IE: some autist with a youtube channel with a thousand fans who watch them in some weird parasocial bubble, but hey, I dont judge, whatever makes someone happy) out there who WILL pay top dollar for them, it just might take you 6 months to sell them (unless you put in the extra work to seek out the insane collector yourself. Used to be you go to forums and find them, now im sure its discords or whatever).
>>535643828>thinks about looking at child porn Once>feds confiscate ammo & ask for heavy fines in gold
>>535639452Dude, my wife’s schizophrenic aunt got evicted, we had to go and clear that shit out. WE had to rent a U-Haul truck, loading it several times to fill a storage unit we were also paying for. Her mom(aunts sister) basically expected us to do this, it was like 98% useless garbage. Fuck boomers, I made it clear to my wife after that I never want to see her aunt again.
>>535640337It comes down to how much time and effort it takes just to make a few bucks. And selling on ebay fucking sucks because you have to deal with all the shipping and all the fees which ebay charges for the total sale value now.For example you sell something for $50. Well, the fees are like 13%+ now, and that's with the tax and shipping included, so you're really paying fees on $60-70+ depending on the cost of shipping. It's such a scam now, which is why when I sell something I sell it locally for cash now, not on ebay. Also just having to deal with shipping bigger / heavy items is such a PITA and will be more expensive in general. It's like even if you can make money selling a bunch of old junk, and you can, you could make more just by working a normal job and not have to waste so much time selling shit in your spare time.
>>535639619You are assuming there will even be a future and that boomer Don won’t nuke everything
>>535643509massively underrated
>>535639452My dad and stepmom have a hoarding problem - constantly trying to make a buck off every ratty piece of furniture or old computer console they've held onto for the last 30 years because THEY KNOW WHAT THEY GOT.I love my dad, genuinely I do, but when he passes I'm going through, filling a box with anything nostalgic and deeply personal - photos, some of his old books, etc. and then the next day I'm coming over with a dumpster and everything else in the house is going into it. Same thing with all his storage units (he has four and they're all full of crap).My mom's not as bad, she has a bunch of totes of old personal stuff from my brothers and I and all our kids - school stuff, drawings that were on the fridge, photos, yadda yadda yadda, but she actively has us all come over once every couple of years and go through those totes with her and throw out the shit that's not worth keeping.
>>535643681You want nice things, you have to learn what they are. It's not that hard. No one can do it for you. Did someone tell you what video games to play? what music to listen to? Where did you learn your dumb boomer "hospice nurse" tape loop? Could you imagine knowing something more interesting?
>>535639515I admit to hoarding books, vinyl records and firearms.
>>535643994I have an aunt and uncle moving out and downsizing right now. My god the amount of shit they have it's unbearable, and I have to go help them move it all in a few weeks. Most of it is going to go into a storage unit but they are moving across the country too. My parents luckily don't have as much stuff, I've downsized a lot of their shit over the years and got rid of / sold a lot of shit but even they still have a ton of shit in their garage / attic that I'm gonna have to deal with in a few decades. The worst part is they have this massive mineral collection, and idk what the fuck I'll even be able to do with that stuff once they die because selling it would be a complete pain in the ass.
>>535639452You people dont realize how fucked the great depression warped people's perceptions. That hoarder mentality took 3 generations to evaporate
>>535643776I thought it was just my parents but they would buy the cheapest possible option only to have to it break and buy another. They would have been better off buying an expensive version that would have last. I usually ask them not to buy me something because it always breaks and ends up being more of a hassle than if they just didn't get it to begin with.
>take some time to appreciate the boomer hoard in the garage>hundreds of kitchen trash backs I stacked up when trying to find something>look in the impenetrable distance where all the star trek figures and unopened dvd collectables are>hundreds of kitchen trash bags covered in spider webshow could it be otherwise
>>535644076I know it terrifies you, but you will die alone, and no one will give a single fuck about your judgemental ass. All your snark, all your condescension, none of it meant anything to anyone except building resentment to the point that they just wrote you off.Now you try to go on the attack, try to deflect. But we both know the truth of it. You are unloved and unwanted. And that is how you will die.
>>535639452BUT YOU NEED TO NOT SPEND $20 ON LUNCH, KIDDO!I WAS ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE WITH MONEY, KIDDO!fucking boomers are the biggest hypocrites ever
>>535640618You could buy them this book, but they'll just horde it.
>>535644119There would probably be some shop that would buy it bulk.
>>535644141Yeah, they've been saying that about hoarders forever, but the Great Depression was a long time ago. That's not why people would have stacks of newspapers in their houses. It's just mental illness that's not very treatable, sadly.
>>535644248Boomers are in mega debt and pay severe fines for attempting to liquidate. Hes pretending to be rich for Your Sake.
In my experience, they hoard stuff they didn't have or couldn't afford as children. Erector sets, Schwinn bikes, model cars, etc...Also stuff that they claim they'll fix/restore someday.
>>535641538>Polyglot actually.shut the fuck up you dumb faggot
Also, it's funny I'm itt RN because we're having a yard sale of (mostly) my Nana's stuff. She passed in 2024 and my dad is finally getting around to selling it after decluttering her house. There's also some stuff in there that would sell high to the right buyer, but alas, who tf has time for that?
Who gonna get all my VHS movies when I go?
>>535640773>>535640971Same here bros. I have a NPD Colbert worshipping boomer father who exposed himself during covid when I didn't get vaxxed. He lost the plot completely during the peak of the propaganda in Nov/Dec 2021 when both the Biden and Trudeau regimes actively promoted the narrative that covid was now a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". He's refused to communicate with me since, not even on my birthdays. (for the 1st year or two I sent him stuff for his)I'm sure he's giving my portion of the inheritance (~$500k) to one of his leftist organizations to spite me. I now accept it. I didn't think I'd get to this point, but here I am 4 or 5 years later totally at peace with it. Being raised by a NPD and finally being released from their delusional clutches is the greatest freedom one can know.>Fuck you and your money old man, I don't care for either.
>>535644226Boo hoo. That's all you know. "Boomer gonna die alone" Come on, where did you learn that? You didn't come up with that one yourself. And it's no one's fault but yours. Boo hoo you didn't have a chance.
My mom hoards and it is insane>glass on a clock gets cracked>buys a new clock because she doesn't want a clock with cracked glass>doesn't throw it out, it just sits on a table>literally can't throw it out or she will fish it out of the binSame story with everything. Nothing can be thrown out. Everything gets hoarded because ''I may need it'' but then when she does need it, she doesn't want to, she'll just buy a new thing.
>>535642697I mean we can nitpick forever (What if your house floods, burns, destroyed in civil unrest and your books are lost)
>>535639779my dad was born in 42, so technically not a boomer but might as well be. he larps that he lived through the great depression. his earliest memories are of a post-WW2 world but he pretends that hes some kind of survivor of hardship and uses that as justification to never throw anything away. in reality hes just weak-minded and cant grow up / move forward in his life. all boomers are like this to some extent
>>535639709A free doll? Good! Dolls like that can be very expensive.
>>535644141>>535644339I honestly think most of the damage was growing up poor.Many boomers/genx did grow up in poverty only to enter in prosperity in their 20s, but the damage is already done in creating hoarding habits.
>>535640802If you visit 4chan your computer will have 4chan cookies!
Boomers are hyper materialists because they were brainwashed by the TV pumping consumerism into their brains. And remember that boomers had a TV blaring this propaganda at them from cradle to grave. Hyper materialism is ingrained into them so deeply that they can't even verbalize it. If you try to ask them why they need so much crap they just get angry. Their lead poisoned brains could not question the electric jew, and they obeyed.
>>535644360I always act like my kids were rich growing up because that is the Best Superhero Origin Story.
>>535644441Damn I got your ego defenses to engage. And I've noticed that you haven't been able to refute the claim that no one loves you. You just double down on trying to browbeat someone without realizing you target is beyond you. You are the boomer that will die alone.
I guess i can say i have some things hoarded up. Truely a blood/upbringing issue from my parents who would buy shit then declutter shit all the time including the shit me and my siblings had to an aggravating degree. But owing plastic garbage and collecting pokemon cards/anime figurines is a line i cannot cross. I have shit that is meant to be used and consumed so my collection of shaving soap/bar soaps/aftershaves will eventually disappear and my clothes/boots will eventually be worn to threads before the next one in the closet gets used. All of the rest of my money goes towards fixing up the house, investments and paying double on the principle. Anything more than that is a waste to buy until its destroyed.
>>535644584Sounds like broke bum nigger cope to me, m8.
>>535644288My grandmother who was half Swedish would always say “you can’t take all of these things with you in a hearse”. She ironically downsized quite a bit in her final years. Her and my grandfather sold their house and divided up the money among their boomer children as a sort of living inheritance. I got a handful of art supplies, some books & a few tools. I actually cherish those tools. One is a century old crescent wrench that works better than any homo despot wrench.
>>535639452It's a curse & a blessing at the same time. Somewhere under all that trash is a postage stamp worth $20,000. An bundle of rare old vinyl. or an antique watch.
>>535644543Tons of people grow up poor and don't become hoarders. Hoarders have something wrong with them that's probably not anybody's fault unless it's from mom's std or brain damage or something. I don't think it's a character flaw, I think they're just broken people.
>>535644339Ya. Consoomerism has been around a lot longer than people realize
>>535644707I summoned a bot. Nice. This particular bot is probably a jeet chat engine. It cannot spit out anything relevant to the conversations.
>>535644119Honestly minerals being hoarded are cooler than cheap plastic flowers or romance novels
>>535644690You don't know anything else, do you? Very sad! You're the one that's being nonresponsive and going for the personal attack. Why does it bother you that you don't know good from bad? You can just learn.
>>535644811Oh man you triggered the generational poster response, dont respond to it
>>535644767My mom is somewhat of a hoarder(one that declutters all the time) and she grew up with fucked up parents so it tracks.
>>535643996>For example you sell something for $50. Well, the fees are like 13%+ now, and that's with the tax and shipping included, so you're really paying fees on $60-70+ depending on the cost of shipping. It's such a scam nowI sold a computer on eBay for $450 and after fees and shipping I only got $250. Ebay Made $200 for Literally Nothing.
>>535644148My folks just insisted on buying the granddaughter a bicycle. Of course they bought the cheapest Chinese piece of shit that looked like a bike they could find on Amazon. It had no brakes. The fucking wheel fell off in minutes. They could have paid $50 more and got a Huffy from Walmart even that would have been fine, she'll outgrow it in a couple of years anyway, but no. They have to find "a bargain." This happens every time. They cannot learn from it. They're just wired to "bargain hunt." I bought them computers because I got sick of trying to play IT with the absolute dogshit celeron crap they were buying for themselves that would just fail and break instantly. Then they'd say indignantly, "I paid good money for this," the same piece of shit laptop they proudly announced they got "on special" for $189 at Best Buy last month. Well, the piece of shit came with a 64gb HDD and 4GB of ram and barely fucking runs the bloatware infested version of Windows 11 it came with, and you put 50gb of iPhone photos on it, what did you expect?Funny thing is they have $1,200 phones because the price is built into their $200/mo Verizon contract, which they think is normal and necessary, but they fact the phone was "Free" works on them. So no problem pissing away $200/mo on cell bills and another $200/mo on cable bills, but they can't spend $500 once or twice per decade on a laptop that isn't total ass because that's "too much." Boomer mentality is weird.
>>535644614The jews... they got me...
... got me by the balls...
>>535644845Damn this bot can't into logic either. It just keeps repeating an endless loop.
>>535644861Ebay sucks ass i refuse to sell anything to anyone online. I used to use craigslist and these fucks show up with 1$ less than the agreed upon price i tell them to fuck off and get my car and leave.
>>535642691Try fat attractive women, anon. I guarantee it'll work out for you.
>>535644967I cannot tell you how many weird scumfucks have tried to scam me on craiglist doing weird shit like you are describing. It's to the point where I can smell it and I just screen them for their little list of tricks and if I get dodgy responses I just block them.
do your parents and yourselves a favor. buy a shit load of these and just help them sort and pack stuff away so it's all nice and neat. if you can't get them to throw shit away, at least get it organized.
I find a lot of them just dont know what value is. Eg my mom>someday this silverware set will be yours! its silver so its worth alot. And you can use it unlike those silver coins you have been buying!Mom, see here, its only silver plated metal...
>>535645191>everything is neat and tidy>this frees up space around the house>which allows for more stuff
>>535639452>Why do old people cling to material items?Things were cheaper back then. Boomers = MaximalistsMillennials = Minimalists
>visiting aunt, she decides to show off her new set of kitchenware>points out two boxes full of her old stuff, announces they're a "gift" to me>was living out of my car at the time>she expected me to just put the boxes in my trunk "for when i get an apartment"i don't think she wasn't being actively malicious, but there is something deeply wrong with that generation
>>535645191Thats like buying a bigger house. All it does is encourage them to keep hoarding. Cleaned and organized is just an excuse to say(welp cant find it might as well buy another) my dad cannot buy another tool box period i tell him if he does then he needs to describe in detail why he needs to buy the biggest 72inch box possible to fill up when he currently owns 2 of them and a rolling tool box cart to go with it. If he was flipping cars then whatever i get it you need tools but even for most real mechanics most of them don't fill up a 72inch box even if they tried to fill it up with the cheapest chink junk imaginable.
>>535644861Ebay fees are minimal desu. Even if you use their promotional features. Ive not had a problem with them. They basically charge the same amount as taxes and practically do all the selling for you. Half of whatever you make though, goes to shipping and packaging. Net sales is what ive actually made from about 6months of using it. recently no one has been buying anything, so i suspect they use algos to pump new members and then drop you after.
>>535639452My dad has two garages and multiple storage units like this. I hope he outlives me so I don't have to clean it out.
>>535645365I think the biggest insult to poor fags is the fact that these people buy really nice shit that is well researched like some high end all clad stainless steel cookware set and they will still refuse to use it or are affraid to get it scratched up. Why even bother buying it then? I have a handful of watches and i wear my 500$ watches daily fuck them getting scratched, its the whole point of buying anything is to use them.
>>535639452My dad's got this problem bad.
>>535639452its how they were raised: never throw anything away because it might have a use in the future.took me awhile to convince my parents to stop hoarding
>>535641102>>535643905Fucking hoard gold and silver coins, at least they have material value.
>>535642543There are adapters for exactly that
>>535645580I have seen that with farmers on youtube. They finnally get the reins on their parents and one of them realized "hey dad how come we have 2 out of 3 sheds completely filled with garbage that cannot and will not be utilized elsewhere on the farm?" he ended up taking a majority of that hoard to the metal recyclers and tearing down a fucked up shed and using the money to fix the other 2 and fixing the siding of his house on the property. Btw these are tractor sheds so imagine a hangar the size of 4 houses.
>>535639452That fridge is cool tho.
>>535645641Gold and junk silver is worth holding on to if you've got it. And other investments. But generally people don't get rich hoarding coins.
>>535639829You're right we must CONSOOOOOM PUUURCHAAAASE and buy all the trendy things from the advertisements to impress our friends and women
>>535645405i had to start refusing to borrow tools from older family members because it was the same shit every time>mention i'm working on something or planning to>someone pipes up saying they have some complex specialty tool for that job and insists i borrow and use it>tool is either a thousand years old and worn to shit or brand new cheap garbage>something on the tool stops working or breaks outright>i blame myself and try to resolve the issue>spend more time fucking around with someone else's shit than working on my task>give up and shamefully report how i broke their shit>get a bunch of apologies about how they just forgot it was broken like that and offers to lend me another similar tool that I now have to decline so I can just get to work like i had initially planned to>if I just do the job without telling anyone they get all miffed and insist i should be asking for help and it would have turned out betteri'm so sick of failing to interface with other people without coming out of it worse off than I went in
>>535640337/g/ will pay 1000% markup for that
It's not scarcity mindset.It's a balm against mortality.Boomers anchor their memories in objects, and throwing out the object is like forgetting. Feels like dying to them. As long as they have the object time doesn't advance.So they'll hold onto that phone book from 1986 until they die.
>>535640046That's fucking insane.I usually end up with less dirty dishes than I started with when I cook, because I wash or clean things when I have a minute since I've gotta stay in the kitchen anyway
>>535645806Precious metals are for wealth storage not wealth creation
>>535645954Cleaning as you go is kino. I rarely keep shit in the sink ever. I also wash/scrub the sink with dish soap frequently.
>>535645191That design is for retards those totes will collapse in since their strength is in the corners vertically and not the lip. So don't build them this POS. A regular shelf that the totes can sit on is way more practical and can fit thousands of lbs of Hummel's. I'm holding all my grandmas for when they come back around with the youth again.
>>535645806It's not about making money, it's about losing less than 100% of the money.You want to make money, "hoard" ETF.
>>535645365>visiting aunt>living out of car at the time She doesn't have a spare room?I was homeless and my aunt wouldn't let me sleep in her bungalow. Another Boomer malignant personality trait.
>>535645365My uncle's been trying to unload a second bedroom set on me for 5 years. I live in a one-bedroom apartment.
>>535640461Model trains are a weird one because they're so fucking expensive, but if they've never left the box they're probably worth a shitload. Swatches too, my wife likes them.
>>535645842>i'm so sick of failing to interface with other people without coming out of it worse off than I went inAAAAA WHY IS THIS SO COMMON GET OUT OF MY HEAD
It's a hylic thing
>>535640046That's reasonable, but only if the shit skips the sink and goes right to the washing machine.t. cook for the whole family cos my wife is a retard
>>535646100No one wants reefer addicts in their house
>>535646100The more generous ones will let you live with them but you'll have to pay $1500 a month with insane stipulations. After all, they don't want you to be lazy or entitled.
>>535646100I had a similar situation where family refused to help me when I was struggling. I considered family obligations null and void at that point and haven't given any effort into maintaining a relationship with them.
>>535640963I know, I know, 30-year-old boomers of all ages are convinced that nothing is made like it used to be. But it's not exactly true. Car fags are the worst. Malaise era cars were hot garbage, and the real classics wore out fast. There were almost no 50s cars on the road by the 70s. Car shows only.And that fridge that's been sitting? It's probably going to need to be recharged with refrigerant, which is probably why it got put away. It might need a new compressor. Good luck finding one if it's really old, also another potential reason it got put away.. It probably needs the rotten moldy old insulation pulled and replaced. >>A fridge that lasts more than 4 years Most modern appliances will last 10-20 years if you don't abuse them, and they're much cheaper than the old ones were. >>and consumes half than a modern one.Hahahah. No. Try multiples of what a modern one does. Enough to pay for a cheap new fridge in some cases.That kind of old refrigerator was super repairable when you could get the parts, but that was a long time ago. People want them for style and that's about it.>>535645775>That fridge is cool tho.It is, but I don't want it.
>>535646268Hey that's fine but they will then have to accept me putting on insane obligations and extortionate demands any time they want something from me in the future.
>>535646268Crazy i had my sister in my house and she paid me 500$ or the option to pay that same amount on her car loan's principle instead so she has less shit to worry about while in college. She took the latter option with proof and it was all gucci since she helped clean the house.
>>535645842This is a real issue. Another one of my father's favorites is to make snide comments about my shit. Like, "Wow, that's a fancy weedwhacker! How much did that set you back?" Because I bought the $130 DeWalt battery one instead of the $90 no-name Walmart 2-stroke he has with perpetually clogged carburetor jets that dies every 10 minutes. All his tools are either like this or they're insane overkill ride-on john deer 5 figure shit that he absolutely doesn't need. He simply can't own something like a decent impact driver from Milwakee or Mikita or even Ryobi. Has to get fucking chong brand discount hardware. Bits that liquefy under torque. But also needs an enclosure for the ride mower on with AC and a maintenance plan and extended warranty and insurance to do a half acre of flat grass, lol.
>>535646000 (checked)It's barely any effort or time to just keep things clean, and it's so much nicer. I don't understand how some people just live in filth and have to spend hours cleaning when they finally do
>>535639452>Why do old people cling to material items?Because Boomers had it hard. They are always expecting to go back to the scarcity they experienced in their first 20 of 30 years of life. They never lived in the sheer excess Zoomers were born into, every year throwing away galactic internet devices that fit in their pocket like it's trash and mogged NASA technology only 20 years ago. Washing machines, a/c in every room, screens, infinite selection of overly processed food products that do not resemble food anymore, just powders and cubes. The sheer insanity zoomers and millennials created can't comprehend holding on to a material item because they can't conceptualize scarcity.
>>535646307>>535645365Probably should have boot strapped instead of eating avocado toast snowflake.
>>535640337I'd actually buy a VHS player if saw one in a store. Never got to buying stuff from the web.
>>535640803>says the retarded generation that camped outside Gamestop for a month to get a PS3. >and don’t worry that gold edition spawn figurine with limited edition purple boots will be worth millions someday.
>>535646560I just think our grandparents had it right. Save up. Buy one item that's very good quality. Maintain it well. It serves you well. The boomer preference swung way too far to quantity over quality. Half the shit they hoard doesn't work, is broken, is infested with mice shit and mold, or otherwise was a piece of shit the day it was manufactured.
>>535646677Lmao I did bootstrap. I just had to live out of my car and struggle to get back to a secure place and it took 10x longer because I had no help. My career prospects are behind, I was a brokie so I missed my prime dating years, and I have no social life to speak of. I'm not angry or anything. I've just learned to reflect indifference back at people. If I meant nothing to family, family means nothing to me.
>>535646751In a life without meaning people will volitionally surrender their soul for the illusion of meaning.
>>535646481yeah i get this shit but about electronics>wtf why did you spend 2.5K on a PC when you could be doing what I do and repeatedly spend $600 on a shitty laptop that fails in under 2 years?and then always the amazement and shock when my PC is capable of shit their tablets and laptops cannot do.
>>535642271Nah old electronics will only be cool as long as it’s nostalgic. Maybe some future hipsters will buy that junk like hipster bought into vinyl
>>535646560Baby boomers in the US did not have it particularly hard. Postwar prosperity was almost unprecedented. Minimum wage hit its buying power peak in the US in 1968, about 2x what it is now, and it was easy to get a job that paid more if you had some hustle. Old people have been hoarding shit forever, dude. Boomers are just old people now.
>the bootstrap commentActual physics question here, how exactly would one pull themselves up by their bootstraps? How does one pull themselves up by something so low / attached to one's feet?..It's impossible, is that the "joke"? Because I can see the "telling you to this impossible thing" in their sick humor.
>>535644110>hoarding firearmsThere is no such thing.
>>535646924Just think if you'd bought Apple or Microsoft stock instead of that Amiga in 1986. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20.
>>535643493Porcelain dolls have their own section at my local Goodwill. Even the ones in boxes just sit there.ONLY old women who drooled over them as little girls want them now. And now that they're disappearing, their dolls that they thought were so valuable are revealed to be useless crap.>Ohhh, she's rare. She has the parasol still attached.>That's victorian Shelly with the alternate blue chiffon. They only made 500 of her.If you take a close look at them, they're cheaply made garbage.
>>535647062>The Paradox: The "bootstraps" are the small loops attached to the tops of boots. Physically, it is impossible to lift yourself off the ground by pulling on your own boots.The Origin: The phrase originated in the late 19th century as a sarcastic, illogical physics joke to illustrate impossible tasks.Modern Usage: Despite its physical impossibility, it evolved into a motivational American English expression describing self-relianceAmericans value self-reliance so much, they except you to do the impossible as a matter of course.
>>535647062It's a mocking term for an impossible task-you cannot lift yourself off the ground using your shoelaces. So in this context it's a sarcastic way to describe the boomer mentality when confronted with the generational wealth divide. Boomers don't have the intelligence or honesty to talk about how their children have a fraction of the purchasing power the boomers had. They're either too stupid to understand it isn't 1970 anymore, or their egos just won't allow them to acknowledge that their nation radically declined under boomer's watch. Some particularly narcissistic boomers simply will not allow the possibility that someone has had it "harder than them" because that would cause the focus to temporarily shift away from the narcissist and that cannot be allowed.So when we talking about the bootstraps meme it's a fast summation of this concept. We talk about how housing has never been more expensive compared to income and a boomer responds that we should pack a lunch. Buying a $800,000 home is not possible saving $0.50 on a lunch every day so the boomer is either too stupid to understand this or he's maliciously mocking you.
>>535639452I think its a combination of factors and some people hoard for different reasons. Sometimes its a mental thing, sometimes its just laziness. I think boomers regress mentally back to that childhood phase of "mine!" where its like "don't touch my stuff" and everyone is trying to take your stuff from you and you have to protect it.then one trend I noticed in a lot of cases if someone close died. it might be a mixture of depression making you not care and you give up. or they're trying to protect items that belonged to the dead person, and among the clutter they might get confused on which things were important and now they cant get rid of anything just in case.and then there's the fact that old people don't have as much energy or health to keep things clean and organized.
>>535647398I can assure you the valuing of self-reliance is wholly performative and they only say it to others and do not apply the concept to themselves. If Americans valued self-reliance they would not import millions of foreigners.
>>535646981>Minimum wage hit its buying power peak in the US in 1968, about 2x what it is nowIn 1968 minimum wage was $1.60 per hour and gold was $35 per ounce.35/1.6 = 21.875Today minimum wage is $7.25 and gold is $4659 per ounce.4659/7.25 = 642.62So... In 1968 a minimum wage worker had to work 22 hours to buy one ounce of gold. Today a minimum wage worker has to work 643 hours to afford the same ounce of gold.643/22 = 29.2$7.25x13.3 = $211If minimum wage was the same as it was in 1968 it would be $211/hour today.(These numbers are based on gold prices from a few days ago.)
>>535647062>>535647398>>535647492It's almost as if it's developed a figurative meaning that's not the literal one.I hate it too, having mostly heard it from people who most assuredly did not pull themselves up, and I'm glad the kids are mocking it now.
>>535647692>just buy antiques for the home you can't afford
I wonder how different things would've turned out if they spent money on College degrees for their kids and paid off their kids car loans. He'll if they just paid off their own homes instead of taking out reverse mortgages and most common HELOC's/refinance to take the money out, things would be entirely different economically.
>>535647829>I wonder how different things would've turned out if they outlawed usury.
>>535646782I remember when I was a kid, interacting with the generation slightly above boomers. So many of them were way more orderly and neat in their homes with fewer things. They would be called minimalists today. That generation seemed more likely to want to teach me stuff, how they maintained stuff forever.with boomers I've never experienced this. their philosophy is to just buy something brand new when they're bored of the old thing, even if it still works. then they throw the old thing somewhere in the house to wait till the day they die from grandkids to throw it in a dumpster in the driveway
>>535647123Yeah, but odds are you would have also bought Wang and Tandy and Commodore and IBM and Lotus and Digital etc. stock. Hindsight is 20/20. You know the 2 winners now. If you were diversified across the computer stocks back then you ate shit on most of them.
>>535647692Yeah, ok goldbug, now try computing power. Gold is not a good benchmark here either. It's also high right now and gold has crashed before. But more importantly, you could not buy $211 (2026 dollars) worth of other stuff with $1.60 in 1968. You could buy maybe $15 (2026 dollars) of other stuff. If you'd put that $1.60 into the equivalent of an S&P 500 index fund in 1968, though, it would be worth $540 today. Gold kind of sucks.
>>535648411>You could buy maybe $15Imagine being this retarded.
>>535648161Yup. Or you could have just sat on a pizza's worth of bitcoin, right?I never bought a new Macintosh in the era, but that's the really painful hindsight exercise. What if you had bought Apple stock instead of chasing the latest personal computer trend? Those machines were *not* cheap and really didn't do very much. And there's a kind of equivalence to the bet you would have been placing.
>>535648462Imagine what you could have bought with $1.60 worth of gold in 1968, besides gold. Try real hard. Don't hurt yourself.
>>535648732You could buy about $211 dollars worth of stuff. (No not computers, iphones, etc. Those things have gotten much cheaper. Not gasoline either. Gasoline is almost as cheap as it has ever been.)
Boomers do nothing wrong with the hoarding.They have the space, they might as well fill it with junk. What would you have them do with it, rent it to indian immigrants?I'm sure most would like to fill it with gems and gold bars, but even boomers aren't that rich. Best they can do is three pillows, an almost working kitchen robot from 1995 and a collection of ceramic figurines. If you need it, you'll keep it, if not you'll throw it away.
