>15 year old basic shitbox with 200k miles that will need thousands of dollars in repairs>that'll be $10,000 PLUS tax PLUS tip, go- I mean guyI don't get it: how tf are you supposed to just survive at this point? Cars like this used to cost $2000 10 years ago.
>>535641985>how tf are you supposed to just survive at this point?You aren't.
>>535641985You don't buy those cars.You go for actual shitboxes if you know how to do basic maintenance or you buy new.Buying 10k-20k used cars is nigger-tier.
>>535641985You have the toyota tax on it. Also thats a dealer you dont buy used from a dealer. Also that wouldnt be so high of milage for a camry. It would ride fine after a full inspection, overhaul, lube service, and tune up. Also meme flag 1pbtid
>>535642192>Also that wouldnt be so high of milage for a camry.That's something people never think about when they buy cars, especially used ones.The question isn't "how high of a mileage does it have?" but "how much more can I get out of it."I.E.>Car A: 150k miles. Specific model rarely make it above 175k>Car B: 200k miles. Specific model is known to last well into 350k milesEverything else being equal, you should obviously pick car B, but retards always buy car A.
>>535642061TSMT
>>535641985I just bought a brand new 2026 truck from the dealership for $8,000. What the fuck is wrong with car prices in the US?
>>535641985>will need thousands of dollars in repairsthat's a Camry that's been dealer prepped, it will be fine
>>535641985i get a used 2012 benz with 75km for that here. Is everything in the US a rip off?
>>53564290775k i meant
>>535641985Toyotas have become overpriced due to the reliability meme.
>>535643182True but they are easy to work on especially when compared to german cars which are engineered to force people to give up working on them
>>535641985I paid 1,500 for such a car wth 110,000km / 68,350 miles.Bought it from a German retiree, an airplane engineer who kept it in perfect technical condition despite quite a few dents and scratches that I don't mind.
>>535643182Everyone in my family has and does drive Toyota. The 1999 4 runner my uncle has with over 400k km on it still purrs like the day it was purchased. My aunts camry that is from 94? I think has had zero issues other than regular upkeep and maintenance. My first car was a tercel that was given to me when it was already 15 years old. Drove it for five years (did no maintenance on it) before buying my second car, used, off my cousin, a 05 matrix. Again, did no maintenance on it for 10 years before I sold it. It's not a meme. The 1990-2010 Toyota are bullet proof. Before planned obsolescence took over most of these vehicles will outlast you. Plus cheap parts and easy to work on. The premium on used Toyotas are there for a reason.
>>535642694Regulatory capture and government run amuk
>>535641985With jews you lose are you new here? In 07 I got a used 90 Honda for 1k it had like 150k miles on it ran like a champ. The hood and driver door were different colors because it had gotten into a wreck but it ran very well and did very good on gas. I was 16 I don't know how kids these days make it things are pretty fucked.
>>535641985Its an auto. Only women and brownoids drive automatics.
>>535643845This is true. German engineering has unironically raised the price of the opposition because the maintenance is quite onerous. Eu 7 compliant mercs are generally considered good for 100k now, tops.
>>535641985it does say it's above market price but a car like that should cost less than half that. keep it maintained and you can easily hit 300k miles with that
>>535641985it's a late stage toyota my man right before they tweaked cad design to kill the engines sooners, so she will live forever if you do basic maintenance.
>>535641985Its a Toyota Camry bud, keep changing the oil and it will be good for another 300k
Is this a good car?
>>535641985>posts a Camry>assumes thousands in repairsnigga what? you could at least post something that actually is known for issues. 2012 Camry also uses a timing chain (not belt) meaning that's one less thing you gotta worry about replacing over time.There are people with 200k+ mile cars that run just fine because they have been taken care of. If it has all routine maintenance done on it, it's probably fine.$10k is also something you could possibly save up for and buy in full without needing a jewish car payment. I bet you'd drive that entire thing for a year without needing as much as an oil change. Saving up $200/mo (which would be far less than a car payment) for an entire year means $2400 in "oh shit fund" which is likely going to be more than any surprise repair in that car for a year.I have several old JDM cars ('91 NSX and '06 S2000). Both of them just take oil. For the NSX the only thing I've had to do was pre-emptively replace CV boots but I did it because the rubber was starting to crack after 30+ years. I have owned it for 3 years now and put over 10k miles on it because it's fun to drive.The S2000 has been the same, just needed oil and MTF in the 5 years I have owned it. The only repair was the cat converter went out and I bought a new high-flow one for $300 (because OEM was more expensive and unobtainable). Oh and an oil change costs me $50 on each car because they are dead simple to do. Stop being scared of high mileage or older cars, especially Japanese ones.
Burgers getting ripped off again as usual.
>>535647217I have a 2004 civic with 125k km as my spare car: runs like a champ. I should probably sell it and let someone else deal with the timing belt change. How much should I ask?
>>535647357you can see from OP that it's both at a dealer and labeled as high price (because it is). the true price for a car like that is much lower.
You have to do peer to peer sales on sites like Craigslist the old fashioned way. You also need to knock on doors of older garages that seem to always have cars parked on the side; tons of these shops essentially are doing under the table car sales for their older clients that want to get rid of old cars. I almost spent $6k on a Prius 4 years ago at a dealership but then walked away when they had the audacity to try charging me $1k in additional ’doc fees’. Turned around and saw another Prius outside of a shop turns out some old lady wanted $3k for it and I bought it on the spot.
>>535647446It's not the timing belt that's gonna be your worry even though yeah that can be a pricey maintenance item. Those models can have headgasket issues over time which is an expensive one, and if you don't fix it you'll end up with overheating and a warped/crack block and bigger problems.The 2006-2009 era Civics are bulletproof. The R-series motors are great and used a timing chain instead of belt.I'm not sure about price though, I'd just look around local ads and price yours comparatively based on condition. You have really low miles on it though, here I've seen ones with double your mileage (and a little beat up) go for $4k so I think you should be able to get $6k+ easily especially if its in good paint/interior (and AC blows cold).
>Buying a used car from a dealerWhy the fuck would you do that?Just go to the faceberg marketplace or something, you can find the same car for like $4000.
>>535647674Granny finds are awesome but you have to be a bit lucky in timing to come across them. Another approach, if you have neighbors, is to chat them up if you see them and ask them if they or anyone they know are trying to sell a good used car. You'd be surprised.My uncle does handyman stuff and often does tiling for people. One old lady had a nice 90s Miata in the garage and he asked about it. Her husband had passed and she wasn't sure what to do with it so he offered her $5k and she took it. It was a manual, in good condition, and even had the OEM hard to which fetches $2k alone.
>>535642694obama
>>535647838Thanks anon. Gaskets seem fine, no oil leaks other than a weird plastic plug I replaced a few years ago. It’s a little dinged, it’s a 20+ year old car, but everything works including the AC. I’m too lazy to deal with the hassle of selling it tbqh
>>535647967FB marketplace can be a field day... in both ways. You have a lot of "I know what I got, no lowball offers" on junk type of boomers on there. There's an entire YouTube channel going through and mocking them with their broken retard English ads too, asking insane prices on something that doesn't even run.if I was gonna spend a small chunk of change and buy a used car I'd get something cool.
die already poorfag brownoid troonyou're ngmi, this is a GOLDEN AGE economy for GOLDEN GODS only. you lost tranny
>>535648130Got neighbors or family members? Ask around if anyone needs to buy a cheap reliable car for a new teen driver. Parents eat this shit up.My first car was a white 2000 Buick Century (picrel), the epitome of "old man car". But I tell you what, there was something charming about it.
>>535647357You can get cheap good cars in the UK. Prices are stupid here.
>>535646973>Is this a good car?If you are a HIV bug chaser
>>535643182>reliability memeIts not a meme bro
>>535641985If you bought it you could cry but if not maybe meds????
I bought a car like that with a third of the mileage for less than that price like a dozen years ago.
>>535642694Beaners.
>>535641985PanicFest TrumpBucks (money printer go brrr!) caused this.
>>535641985>I know what I got
>>535648302Nice. My first was a hand-me-down 1979 244 DL. Absolute tank, 0-60 in about four minutes. I’m pretty sure if I put a sign in the window of the civic I’d get offers but once again it’s the hassle of dealing with it that puts me off. That and it’s a good car that has served me well, so there’s that weird sense of connection with it
>>535642694American communism is a helluva drug.
>>535641985You WILL buy someones sloppy seconds for 80% of the original msrp it was purchased for 15 years agoAnd you WILL be happy
>>535641985Literally just buy chadnese cars
>>535641985i can get twice that for my 2012 tacoma.better builds depreciate slowly. not complicated.
>>535643182>beat shit out of toyota for 15 years>replace brakes, fluids, shocks>only actual failure was the a/c compressorthe reliablity is real
>>535648724Toyota is the final boss of anything relating to personal transportation. The only people who disagree are the same type of people who disagree with their gender.
>>535641985Toyota is overrated.Get an old vehicle of your choosing for 1-2k and put a 4bt diesel engine in it.
You guys are doing it wrong. I got this for $2,500 and fixed an exhaust leak for free and put in a new battery.
>>535648585>>535648302My first was a citroen BX GTI, man was that an abominable shitbox. Water suspensions made it very boaty-comfy tho (as long as you aren't subject to sea sickness).
>>535650405oh wait, I also put in a low mile turbo I got on ebay for $100. Took an hour. You apes really are useless that you can all do that.
>>535641985I paid 10,500 for an 89k miles 2014 corolla a few years ago, this car was 5000k before prices doubled. I got ripped off but didn't have a choice since my car broke down and private party was all the same infkated prices. Dealership was even more expensive, over 14k. Yeah, it's over.
>>535641985Used car prices are unbelievable. They don't make sense. Politicians and businesses have absolutely fucked us
>>535648588Free Market means you can buy the government.Quit complaining commie
>>535649545Toyota is for people who can't even change a flat tire, or replace spark plugs. It's an npc brand that retards who can't fix anything buy because of the reliability, which every other manufacturer also has now.
>>535647532Yeah that seems more reasonable.
>>535650484My dad had one. Can confim about the suspension and that was a selling point. These are rare here and still quite an undesirable classic. The DS however is goat and fetches a high price.
>>535642694jews fear the samurai
>>535650930ftfy
>>535650930Bottom-right was capitalism 10+ years ago. Stupid meme.
>>535642146I paid $2500 for my Toyota corolla because it had some cosmetic damage. Like I give a fuck if the doors have dents and the paint looks like shit. I've been driving this pile of shit for like 6 years now and I haven't had to do any major repairs. Very few things drop a cars value faster than cosmetic damage because it usually costs a lot to fix properly. Take advantage of normalfags not wanting to drive cars that have scratched paint and dents.
>>535651948Why don't you go move there asshole? Show flag.
>>535652003Yeah bro let me just look for one of those. Oh shit, they're all bought up with 15 people in line, and the price is 7500 if you're lucky.
Thats a toyota with only 172k miles that thing is just a baby and has many many many many many many more miles that it will go. Toyota makes the bestest most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. I have had my corolla for almost 20 years now and it has over a quarter million miles and ive only ever changed the oil and brakes and sepentine belt. Calling a toyota a shitbox shows that you are a fucking dumbdick.
>>535652254>20 years now and it has over a quarter million milesRofl. What an exaggerated way of saying you have 250k on it, which is not impressive. It's pretty much the standard for a vehicle to go at least that, and past 300k miles. Toyota cultists are the npcs of the auto world. And if you see a modern Subaru that is either moving too slow, in the wrong lane, or spaced out falling asleep at the wheel, 99.9% it's a libtard. Oregon liberals are the worst drivers in the USA and they are obsessed with Subaru.
>>535641985We have a common phrase here>How they see you, they'll treat youAmericans are the most fooled people on earth
>>535645270>1999 4 runner my uncle has with over 400k km on it still purrs like the day it was purchased.Liar
Cool how $80k cars get totalled from being rear ended or rear ending someone at less than 20mph any more
>>535641985>I don't get it: how tf are you supposed to just survive at this point?Why would you think that the people doing this want you to survive? Why would they need you to survive?>Cars like this used to cost $2000 10 years ago.Yes, but just in case you didn't notice... US auto manufacturing died awhile back. Sure, there's a zombie husk shambling along, but it died. There's no new affordable supply. The used market is drying up, and as supply shrinks there too, expect used cars to go for x5, x10, x20 what they used to. It's only going to get worse. It's no coincidence that this and the r/fuckcars leftoid shilling all started happening at the same time... they're not just taking away the toys, they're brainwashing the masses to not want the toys.
>>535652169You didn't look anything up retard
>>535652960No later than yesterday i took an uber and the 60yo Mamadou driving was telling me it was his 6th Toyota and not a single one went below 500k, with his personal record being 1 million km on a Lexus LS460. Idk if he was bullshitting me but it's factual Toyota has by far the most reliable cars.Talk to any taximan and he will only praise Toyota, and shit over any other brand.
>>535653406Toyota cult porn. And Glocks go 1 million rounds!
>>535653529= 1,600,000km
>>535641985>The american mind cannot comprehend this.
>>535651948>Communist China>Moar like Han Nationalist State CapitalismIf it's so great, why are there so many diaspora and a declining birth rate?>>535651952Our system hasn't been anything resembling free-market capitalism since 2008.It hasn't been free-market since 1913, if you want to nitpick.
>>535641985>oh no >however will I get around without my goy contraption?
>>535642694What truck?
>>535652608Nine syllables versus four? Exaggerated? Okayface.jpgThats a lot of miles. They dont all make it that far. Especially american cars, which you must have no experience with. Ford, GM, Chrysler. They make absolute garbage that breaks way before that. American automobile engineering fucking sucks shit.
>>535643182I sell warranties and Toyota's warranties cost the least by a good bit. It's not a meme, it's pure statistics.
>>535641985Just do what you gotta do, nigga!
>>535641985>Cars like this used to cost $2000 10 years ago.Not Toyotas, and not at stealerships.
>>535642192
>>535648179It runs both ways. I was selling a 14yo first gen Scion xB with only 60k miles for $3,000. That would be about $4,000 today when you adjust for inflation. Pretty fair price, as it was in excellent shape and had maybe 4,000 miles on the tires. KBB suggested $3,400 but I wanted it gone.Niggers kept offering $500 or $1,000, as if it’s some beat to hell shitbox that won’t last through the next tank of gas. “It ain’t worth shit it so old.” Dumb fucking niggers.Used cars are a sellers market. Owners used to either sell privately (like FB or even a newspaper way back) or just bend over and take whatever a dealership would give them as a trade in. But now there are like a dozen businesses that deal exclusively in used cars. Carmax, Carvana, give me the vin, Driveway… it’s created a de facto bidding war for every used car. And since the US has been importing barely-employable brown retards for decades, there’s a giant underclass of poor people jacking up the prices as well.This absolutely puts upward pressure on new vehicles, though that effect isn’t nearly as large as the aforementioned options and demands.
>>535652169Is the American market worse? Because I just looked and I can find a lot of 20 year old corollas for 2 to 3k Canadian. There's nothing wrong with a 20 year old corolla. They were arguably made better back then
>>535650955The fuck are you talking about you retarded nigger? Toyota engine bay is one of the most accessible of any vehicle and less retarded than any ameriglobino germogook shite. You pop that mother fucker up, spark plugs are super accessible, super easy to flush coolant, change air filter, clean throttle body, easy transmission fluid change, alternator, injectors, I cannot think of a service I've done to my Camry or RAV4 that I truly struggled with. Literally everything is as easy as it gets with a ToyotaIt really is that good, suck it contrarian
>>535655089Thanks for the meme thief meme, sucker.It's now belongs to the people.
>>535641985Cheapest used Toyota that is checked and repaired for any problems. Do people take a mortgage to buy this stuff? If I had $20 grand I’d just finance a new Camry instead of buying used.
>>535641985NOOOO COMMIE COMMIE COMMIE COMMIE YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT ECONOMICS IN ANY CONTEXT OTHER THAN "HOW DO WE GET MORE MONEY TO BLACKROCK I LOVE CAPITALISM" FUCKING COMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>535641985Its true. Try to get any Toyota over the year 2000 under 150K miles and that'll easily cost you 10k-20k. Its over. I had to cope and buy a 2019 Hyundai, literally the only thing i could afford, I avoided the theta II engine and just hope if I keep up with basic maintenance it'll stay alive
>>535655678(Got the Hyundai at 55K miles and had to haggle them down to $10,000, and for a 2019 I mean surely it's not terrible, right?)
>>535655460Ugliest Toyota by far.>>535641985Find a gently used Avalon 2016 and earlier for the 6 spd tranner
