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Abortion is healthcare.
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>>535689387
and chuds say elon improved xitter
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>>535689387
Don't care.
Ban usury.
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Dumpster diving is illegal
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>>535689387
Women are vile
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>>535689387
He survived. So the warnings were false. Now he's one DNA test from finding the cunt woman, and watching her HANG.
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Why do all women have "a rapist" these days? it's common now for all women to affirm a past rapist in their lives. It's just become something common and normal like saying "I had a cat" or "I had a dog", now it's always my rapist this and my rapist that. How can all women have been raped by their own personal rapist?
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>>535689477
Women only ever gave a shit about politics when abortion was banned in the late 1700s. It used to be acceptable until the moment of first movement.

Killing their kids is literally the only thing women care about, and denying them that right has been a domino effect causing the complete end of western civilization.
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>>535689387
This. Pro life niggerloving christcuck can suck a dick
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>>535689387
>"Hot take, but if you let us kill our babies, we would 't have to birth them and then leave them for dead"
What a retard- hopefully this baby gets adopted and has a good life
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>>535689387
>Women need to be able to kill babies or else they will throw them in the trash.
Grim.
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>>535689387
Chiodos was right
"One day women will become monsters"
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>>535689541
it's psychological manipulation, they always employ their hypothetical rapist when defending abortion- because without it, most normies would realise abortion is selfish
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>>535689387
You know, feminists could easily grab some greater support, much greater support, by adding circumcision to the “my body my choice” movement. Actually get some skin in the game for people (like me) who are generally ambivalent to the concept of abortion but not going out of our way to support it either.
Of course, all feminist movements are ultimately run by jews so they’ll never let you do that.
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>>535689387
>you should’ve let me kill it before it was born
>now the damned thing is going to get adopted
Oh the inhumanity
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>>535689387
>Mother attempts to murder own child
>"This is why we need abortion"
At least you admit it's about killing kids.
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>>535689707
>thinking feminists argue on principle and not just what's in their interest
at least you know they're run by jews, fair enough.
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>>535689387
>stabs baby to death
see, this wouldn't have happened if i'd have a gun instead.
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>>535689535
I certainly don’t believe the death penalty should be meted out.
I think, if those who do believe in access to abortion for one reason or the other intend to maintain any sort of accessibility to this practice they should start taking the concerns of others more seriously. Stop treating abortion as a form of birth control. Stop minimizing its effect on girls — for many, it is a deeply wounding and damaging experience. It is not a trivial matter whatsoever.
It’s increasingly a very bad look to be avidly pro abortion. It comes of as fiendish and sinister.
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>>535689543
lol. That’s not true at all. The original hypocratic oath forbade the practice of abortion and euthanasia.
Show me one place in the civilized world where abortion was openly and freely practiced prior to 1700. That’s utter nonsense.
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>>535689947
See Norwegians like you are cute; i love Norwegians. Theyre like my German cuties here but even more innocent and pure
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>>535689642
There’s almost never a rapist. It’s a fraction of a fraction of a percentage.
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>>535689387
Dumpster babies are the fault of the woman who pit them there, not righteous anti-abortionists retard.
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>>535689541
>migt
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>>535689387
in 20 years ask that baby if he would of rather been aborted.
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>>535690055
Show me a country where abortions never ever happen
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>>535689590
What do you mean ‘one day’?
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>>535689387
There are like a million different birth control options. They literally have a shot you take that lasts 5 years. Which brings me to a sad story. I had a neighbor who was average looks, but when she was really little like 2 years old, she fell in a pool and her brain went without oxygen for like half an hour. So she has the brain of like a 12 year old. Even tho she’s 25. So the parents would make sure she would get those long acting birth control shots. It’s kinda sad when you think about it. She used to live in my apartment complex. And she used to masturbate by the pool. To answer your question. NO I didn’t. But I could have. On first glance you wouldn’t know. But once you talk to her over a minute, you’re like. Oh ok.
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>>535689387
>mothers lose all paternal behaviors, abandon their children at birth
>the generation that survives this treatment will grow up to be malformed sociopaths, further snowballing the social decay
We have reached the next stage of Mouse Utopia. The prognosis is not good. Complete anarchy in three generations.
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>>535689541
Less than 0.1% of abortions are performed due to rape, 95%+ of them are done for convenience, yet incest, rape and genetic deformities are always propped up as excuses, despite making up less than 1% of all abortions.
Also, most women these days define "rape" as a sexual intercourse, that they've later regretted. This is where the retarded concept of withdrawing your consent after the act is done, comes from, so they're retroactively redefine sex as rape each time the guy, who fucked them upsets them later on. Actual, violent rape is very uncommon in the western world, so each time a woman says she was raped, then what she really means is "I came to regret fucking that random guy 2 weeks ago, so now I'm going to pretend it happened against my will" and it sounds completely reasonable in their minds.
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>>535689387
>if you don't let us kill our children we'll just kill our children anyway.
How do women think this an argument?
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>>535689707
Pic related is the most importaht feminist of all.
>gertrude stein
What do you see there? The truth is that feminism, as a political movement, is a contrivance of Jewish transvestites. That needs to be discussed. Why do Jewish transvestites take it upon themselves to explain to women what being a woman is all about? That is very odd.
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>>535690110
The song is a decade old bro.
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>>535689387
>If we can't kill our babies, babies will be killed!
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>>535690165
They were monsters back then and are monsters now
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>>535689541
Sadly would
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>>535690174
>if we can’t kill our babies they might have to suffer in a dumpster for a few hours!!
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>>535689514
And then he has no mother anyways. Fucked right out of the gate in lfie.
As if being in the younger demographic wasn't getting you screwed over enough these days.
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>>535690195
Well there aren’t any penguins in Alaska either so obviously they knew what they were talking about
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>>535690106
I’m not saying they never happened. I’m saying they have always been illegal. Even back in Roman and Greek times. In all Aryan derived cultures abortion has been treated as an atrocious act. Our peoples aversion to it long predates Christ or Christianity.
It was obviously clandestinely practiced, otherwise there would be no need for an oath to forbid it. But forbid it they all most certainly did.
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>>535689387
>the baby survived
Good. Hope he grows to be an anti-abortion activist to make roasties like the one in OP's image seethe.
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>>535690253
It's impossible to stop it, so the next best thing to do is to regulate it by having easy, secret, and safe access. Otherwise you end up with botched abortions, dumpster babies, and dead mothers.
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>>535689387
>if you don't let us kill our babies we will kill our babies
why do women love killing babies so much anyway?
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>>535689387
So, the only difference between throwing babies in a dumpster and abortion is that dumpster babies sometimes survive?

Sounds like a good argument for banning abortion outright desu.
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>>535690328
Eugenically speaking is that not the best outcome?
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>>535689387
Do these women not realize how fucking psychotic such arguments sound to the other side? To the other side what she's saying sounds as follows: "you should let us murder our kids or else we will murder our kids". It's as if you're unable to process the issue from the other side's perspective. I don't know whether it's a low IQ thing or what. You wouldn't be saying stupid shit like this otherwise. Unless the point isn't to make a compelling argument, but to just virtue signal to the people who agree with you.
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>>535690309
No it’ll be adopted by two gay nigger dads in San Francisco. Get sexually abused and troon out. Then support mass immigration and vote blue for the rest of its life.
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>>535689541
"Rape" in feminese means "post-coital ick".

Since they're on a cocktail of toxic hormones all the time, all coitus gives them the ick and is thus rape.
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>>535690392
It's a better outcome, yes
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>>535689387

"We're going to murder our children one way or the other!"

I just wanted to find a nice lady and settle down and start a family and all they want to do is murder babies
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>>535689387
if we dont kill the homeless they'll suffer told ya! kill em all before they suffer
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>>535690055
The original Hippocratic oath in ancient Greece was specifically invented to prevent abortionists claiming they are doing "health care".
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>>535690106
tits or gtfo
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>>535690387
Post-natal abortion, which is legal in New York, involves a live birth, but the baby is just left to die on the table, slowly starving to death and/or dying of hypothermia. It's completely legal during mid birth for the woman, to say that she doesn't want to keep the baby, so the doctors deliver it, but since they can't just kill a living baby, they simply letting it die on the table, which sometimes takes days to occur, depending on the baby's physical condition. And no, you aren't allowed to save the baby, because the mother decided that it should die, so from that point, the baby is considered medical waste and will be disposed of as soon as it dies.

Hell is real.
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>>535689426
Fell for it again award
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>>535690395
It's even worse than that because in this instance the baby survived, she's literally considering the survival of the baby to be worse than killing it, it's completely unhinged.
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>>535690328
Woman Moment.
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>>535690521
Don't be ridiculous I'm sure that baby is sold in the black market. They wouldn't let a perfectly good baby go to waste.
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>>535689541
Does she think people that are anti abortion would be against killing a rapist?
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>>535689387
What race is it?
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Bodily autonomy requires personal accountability. Close your hole, whore.
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>>535690487
Women by and large long for the destruction of human kind
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>>535690392
Only if you do not value the mother. You don't get to cause unnecessary female death and then cry when your race's women might die off and further your decline. It's a survival strategy in other animals too, sometimes if the parent instinctually knows that it cannot support the child, it will abandon or kill it because the parent's survival allows it to continue breeding in more favorable conditions later on. This also happens with runty siblings as well, the parent will abandon or kill one or more of its recently born children if they feel it is weak. This is to maximize the success of the child it thinks will survive by not having to divide the care and food to the runts.
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>>535690679
Women can't help themselves. They're animals. It's like when rodents have offspring during scarcity, it's solved by devouring the newborns.
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>>535690195
Fair point
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>>535689541
>Why do all women have "a rapist" these days?

>believing a single fucking thing a hole says
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>>535689387
What’s the deal with women and lgbtq cult murdering people all the time

Disgustng freaks
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>>535689387
>See!? if you don't let us kill our babies in the womb, we'll have to throw them in the trash. Actions have consequences, you chuds!

Jesus, how many times did our ancient male ancestors have to hear shit like this before they said "fuck it, you know what? You don't get to have a say anymore."

The old traditions worked in part because they made women palatable to men. Anyone who claims the sexual customs of the past (e.g. marriage, chastity etc), were about civilizing men is lying to you.
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>>535689543
this guy gets it
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>>535689387
I can't believe we as a society are still arguing over abortion. It literally should have ended at 'just keep your legs closed whore lmao'.
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>>535689998
el oh el
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>>535689387
>If you don't let me kill my baby I'll just leave it in a dumpster
Or how about you just keep your legs closed?
Is it really that hard? Do you NEED to spread your legs so badly that if it means you have to KILL BABIES, well that's just fine?
Abortion is selfish convenience with a cost of child murder.
Modern women deserve to be property.
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>>535689387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqHcEbm4MbI
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>>535689387
This also happend before the ban.

Not in favor of ban, not in favor of bullshit.
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>>535690958
Hello darkness, my old friend.
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>>535690055
Hippocrates, Soranus of Ephesus, and Galen discussed abortifacients and methods of terminating pregnancy in surviving texts. Soranus’ Gynecology, written in the second century CE, describes when abortion might be appropriate and details procedures and substances used for it. For much of Roman history, the fetus was not considered a separate legal person and the primary legal concern was the father’s property and inheritance rights, not the fetus. Abortions could be punished under certain circumstances e.g. if a wife aborted to deprive her husband of an heir but abortion itself was never banned or treated as murder.

Aristotle endorsed abortion in Politics, arguing that if couples had too many children, abortion should occur “before sense and life have begun.”: so one of the foundational philosophers of the civilised world recommended abortion as a tool of population management.

In England, abortion before quickening was not treated as a serious criminal offense. Edward Coke in the seventeenth century distinguished between abortion before and after quickening. Blackstone later did the same in the eighteenth century, reflecting older common-law traditions. Women used herbal abortifacients openly enough that recipe books, medical manuals, and folk remedies circulated widely. Substances like pennyroyal, savin, rue, and ergot were commonly associated with inducing menstruation or ending suspected pregnancies.

Even within medieval Christianity, the issue was more complicated. Catholic theologians long debated “ensoulment,” often following Aristotle’s distinction between formed and unformed fetuses. Thomas Aquinas accepted delayed ensoulment. Medieval canon law frequently punished abortion differently depending on fetal development. The idea that all abortion at every stage was straightforwardly equivalent to murdering a fully formed person was never dominant in Europe.

Questions?
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>>535690134
It's so fucking horrifying when you learn how many abortions are being done.
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>>535690521
>Post-natal abortion, which is legal in New York, involves a live birth, but the baby is just left to die on the table, slowly starving to death and/or dying of hypothermia. It's completely legal during mid birth for the woman, to say that she doesn't want to keep the baby, so the doctors deliver it, but since they can't just kill a living baby, they simply letting it die on the table, which sometimes takes days to occur, depending on the baby's physical condition.
this is a lie. you are lying.
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>>535689387
Even while abortion was legal, women still did this, the worst thing I ever experienced in my life as a man or as a human was working at Walmart on the night shift and finding a dead baby in the trash bin in the parking lot, it stank so bad, and when I opened the top I saw its little body just laying there, dead.

Ill never listen to one word from a woman on this topic. I will never forget the sight or smell.
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>>535692063
>i had a horrible experience where i found a dead baby in a dumpster
>i want to ban abortion so that even more people can have this exact same horrible experience
you are retarded
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>>535689387
>I warned you I would throw my newborn into the trash if I'm not legally allowed to kill it
wild stuff
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Its a made up issue.
If people dont want to get a baby they should abort it. Its a not really sentient being unable to live on its own.
Society doesnt need more unwanted children.
The only arguments against it are googoogaga christian schizophrenia or people not liking women.
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>>535690715
Are you claiming women are incapable of rational thought, or any kind of foresight into possible consequences? They are simply animals in nature?
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>>535689387
>Hot take but if women aren't legally allowed to kill their own babies out of convenience they will instead illegally kill their own babies out of convenience
Repeal women's rights
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>>535689387
The woman commenting "it's not our fault, despite actually doing it, but yours that prevented me from aborting"

I'm for abortion based on race but aborting women just because is starting to seem like a good idea
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>>535689514
>>535690234
Yeah, this poor LITERAL bastard started life out in a dumpster. They're probably going to circumcise at some point too.

He'll probably end up in an abusive foster care facility then get kicked out at 18 with nothing but memories of abuse and Disney movies as his tools to face life and go get a job.

Fucking whores, man.
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>>535692450
Woman couldn't be arsed to.do simple thing for 5 minutes equals a lifetime of pain. Karma is real...
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>>535690395
>>535690580
Women are not real people. This isn't hyperbolic misogyny to be funny, this is reality. Women are not fully people the way men are and expecting them to have any rational capacity just because they're adult is insane.

Women need to be guided and cared for the way you'd train a dog. This is the default way they act across all civilizations and cultures unless someone stops them.
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>>535691926
Sure, I've got one.
Why did you list a bunch of completely irrelevant information when the question posed to you was
>openly and freely practiced
Because every case you just mentioned begins at the position it's a crime and just considers the degree to which it is a crime.
You've also intentionally muddied the waters by saying
>For much of Roman history, the fetus was not considered a separate legal person and the primary legal concern was the father’s property and inheritance rights, not the fetus.
Because that was true of ALL children, up until adulthood.

You argue like a kike.
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>>535689387
The foid in OP's post thinks it has a point.
With abortion: that kid would be dead.
Without abortion: the kid is alive.
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>>535692310
where's the lie though?
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>>535692118
The kid is alive though.
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>>535692118
You're right, banning abortion isn't going far enough, repeal all women's rights and bring back male chaperones
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>>535692274
>The only arguments against it are googoogaga christian schizophrenia or people not liking women.
The biggest argument against it (just don't have sex) still hasn't been rebutted.
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>>535691926
a jew from 3000 years ago said that abortion gud!!!!!111!
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>>535689433
depends on the municipality
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>>535692632
Dude is arguing for women's rights while claiming they are no more than animals.
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>>535689387
>baby survives
Leftist we should of murdered it.
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>>535689387
Make
Chastity
Belts
Great
Again
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>>535692646
>repeal all women's rights and bring back male chaperones
Cut the workforce in half.
Make men get the extra job of being chaperones.
Turn half the population into useless eaters.
Chuds never think things through, do they?
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>>535690106
Antarctica and it's an entire continent
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>>535690234
>he has no mother anyways
Chad move. Mothers are women.
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>>535692760
Animals should have rights.
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>>535692830
so then how is it that civilization survived for thousands of years without women in the workforce?
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>>535691933
Even the 2.5% for 'physical health' are fucking narcissistic cunts. Imagine thinking you'll retain perfect physical health when going through pregnancy or that being pregnant and less physically capable makes you less of a person.
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>>535692648
>The biggest argument against it (just don't have sex) still hasn't been rebutted.
It has. People get raped all the time.
So 'don't have sex', isn't an actual solution.
'Use protection'. isn't an actual solution either. No birth control is 100% effective.
Abortion is healthcare. It should be allowed.
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>>535689387
>if you dont let me abort, i will recklessly have sex and throw the baby in the dumpster.
bro never heard of "NOT HAVING SEX" and protection.
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>>535689477
>slightly inconvenienced
Prison for decades =/ Slightly inconvenienced.
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>>535692918
>0.2% life/major bodily function
>2.5% physical health
They aren't even trying to hide it. How many of these do you think could've been solved in a C-section?
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>>535692953
Rape cases make up like 1%, if even that, of all abortion cases. The vast, vast majority is not rape related.
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>>535689543
So maybe listen to them, and stop trying to jail them for it.
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>>535692578
>Because every case you just mentioned begins at the position it's a crime and just considers the degree to which it is a crime.
Incorrect. I specifically said that in Rome it was not a crime. Some kinds of abortion were criminal, but not because they were abortion. Abortion was never criminal.

Furthermore, you said here:
>"In all Aryan derived cultures abortion has been treated as an atrocious act"
This is a lie, and that's what my additional information shows. I have both directly rebutted your false claim that abortion has always been illegal, and also rebutted your other false claim that abortion has always been a serious crime.

Abortion has been both legal and merely a minor crime in most of the West for most of history.

You can't read. You can't read because you are an idiot. And because you are an idiot, you come to wrong conclusions about simple questions.

I trust this answers your question.
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>>535689387
Oh, heavens no! A child got to live!
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>>535693012
If there was any risk of natural birth, it's likely that 99% would've been offered a C section and able to get one.

>>535692953
No, hospitals treating people for assault if they've been raped and suffer physical harm is healthcare. Justifying abortion due to less than 2% of them being the result of rape is just disingenuous
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>>535692865
The right to vote?
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The child survived and a murder was prevented.
We won you lost.
Not reading your reply.
Out.
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>>535693062
Apologies, >>535690253 was not your post. However, it was the post of the poster to whom I originally replied and the explanation of why I provided the additional contextual information is as it is.
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>>535693062
Are you saying Romans are Aryans, rather than halfcastes like Italians? Lmao get the fuck out of the country, clown.
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>>535689387
>9 months pregnant
>didn't want
>didn't lookup dropboxes and churches in area
If the mom wouldnt even do that I doubt she would have gone to a abortion clinic. The chances are the woman was a hooker and a addict, her bf or pimp is the one who put it in the dumpster.
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>>535690134
Be honest.
If men were the ones who got pregnant, Do you believe they'd allow the government to mandate them into 38 weeks of carrying a fetus to term, a forced delivery, and parenthood?
You believe men would be willing to lose their jobs, to instead deal with the final weeks/delivery/first newborn weeks?
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>>535692830
Women are already useless eaters despite getting paid to "work" jobs that men would actually do
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>>535692852
>ackchyually
1. Antarctica is not a country
2. At least 11 births have been recorded in Antarctica, so there is a non-zero chance an abortion of some kinda has occurred there as well.
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>>535692918
>Imagine thinking you'll retain perfect physical health when going through pregnancy
You believe women don't end up with chronic health conditions, after complications during delivery?
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>>535689541
A fantasy they can now talk about openly. For example sweden imports only violent sandniggers and niggers while blocking refugees from ukraine because most of ukrainian migrants are hot women.
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>>535689387
Maybe don't have casual unprotected sex??
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>>535689514
Yup. Evil exists and it’s real. We have to exterminate it.
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>>535693020
It doesn't matter how many.
And that 1% number, is a lie. Vast majority of rapes never get reported.
If the government can't guarantee that you'll never get raped, then they also can't force you to carry the crime to term.
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>>535691926
Thx bro, never knew it had a long history
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>>535689541
My fuck head ex told me herself that she hooked up in university with some French douche and that she got pregnant. This led to her getting an abortion which messed her up.
We were together for about 4.5 years before it finally ended and still followed each other on twitter for a while after we broke up. There was some bullshit going viral about abortions and women were sharing their retarded stories online.
She vague posted about how she didn't have any choice about having an abortion because she also didn't have any choice about getting pregnant that night. 99.9% of people would absolutely understand that she was hinting that she was raped. I know she wasn't. She told me the whole thing. Even how after she had the abortion she went back to uni and at a party one night she had her big hero moment and walked up and slapped the French guy in front of everyone before her and her friends stormed out. She was such a stupid fucking cunt, I'm embarrassed I was with her for so long. It also pissed me off because at least I knew her abortion was BEFORE we met. But as far as anyone else knew, she may have been referring to me.
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>>535693230
>And that 1% number, is a lie. Vast majority of rapes never get reported.
Now you're just getting into cope territory.
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>>535693064
what a load of crap.
A crime was committed against the person. Forcing them to spend 38 weeks + all that delivery and a newborn baby entails, is nonsense.
The justice system isn't supposed to revictimize the people. Demanding someone lives with the consequences of the crime, for 38 weeks to 18 years, is insane.
How old are you? I've always thought that the pro-life people are either boomers, religious, or teens and preteens.
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>>535693163
They aren't.
Plenty of wagie women with real jobs.
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These guys put the “pro” in “prom night dumpster baby”
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>>535693107
Actually, it appeared to me that >>535690253 was saying they were Aryans and I was responding to that. I've never really obsessed over who is Aryan or not.
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>>535693177
No, I'm saying that you're selfish if you're not willing to go through some sort of sacrifice for your kids. If you're having kids, they should be your whole life. Having a weak bladder or postpartum depression is meaningless compared to their lives.

If you've got such complications from giving birth that you're going to eat shit and die from doing one of the most natural things possible, you deserve to die from an evolutionary standpoint.
>>535693166
ayy lmao
>>535693306
>hooked up with someone
>got pregnant
>claims there was no choice when she could've kept her legs shut, or just sucked some cock and done some anal
Anyway, post her nudes
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>>535693316
Most rapes never get reported.
That's a true statement.
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>>535689387
Find the mother and charge her with child abandonment and attempted murder. No plea deals, no mercy. Just lock that bitch up and throw away the key. Also dox her name. Don't let her hide shit
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>>535691926
>Questions?
Just two.
1. How many times were you humiliated before you started to take out the hyphens?
2. If it wasn't for abortions there would be no "fertility crisis" justifying muh immigration. So what pajeet shit hole are you from?
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Unlimited abortions for blacks and browns. We owe it to them to make up for racism or whatever.

No abortions for whites. White women need to recognize their white privilege and step out of the way so that strong black women can have unfettered access to critical abortion services.
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>>535693399
Says who?
You?
why should the people who are actually making the babies, listen to you?
can you make a baby? have you ever made one? how can you speak with such authority about something that you never have, never will, and never even see you as possibly doing?
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>>535693306
Pump n' Dump = Rape for most women. Most women actually feel dirty after a random hookup but they keep having them out of desperation for emotional connection. If the guy really blows them off after, they claim rape. Women should be treated as kids until their father marries them off. Women having freedom rekt themselves.
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>>535693399
>Anyway, post her nudes
You wouldn't even want them. Like I said, I'm embarrassed I was with her.
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>>535693383
No, those aren't real jobs when done by a woman. Getting paid 60k a year to sit in an office and answer emails isn't a real job when you intentionally ignore all the emails
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>>535689387
Another woman whaling like the background noise of a nut house with her strong independence for freedom from morality
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>>535689387
there's literally place to abandon a child safely. she's just a cunt.
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>>535693437
I accept your concession.
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>>535693567
I know, the only reason you came to my country was a concession card. Rape rate poo-man being.
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>>535693612
It amuses me that you need to believe that.
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>>535693502
Why not get your tubes tied, and be done with it ?
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>>535690116
>There are like a million different birth control options
And none of them are 100% effective.
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Only christcuck fags are prolife and worship spics and niggers.

Nonwhites get abortions at rates much higher than white women.

If you are anti abortion you're antiwhite.
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>>535690094
Seriously, that's the face of a polluted mind. There's something deeply wrong with that whore.
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>>535693502
Because people are too stupid to make decisions for themselves, especially when they are in times of duress or highly emotional.

I'm fertile and capable of making a baby, but I don't see how that has anything to do with it. With your logic, if i get a lump on my balls or something, I shouldn't go see a doctor if it's a female because she can 'never ever have' balls or a lump on them? No, as a doctor she has the required knowledge and training to help me more than a random dude off the street.

tl;dr you're a nigger and if you want to have kids, take care of them

>>535693521
A bit of a slampig? fair enough, we've all been there
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>>535693642
Not having sex is 100% effective
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>>535689387
>This is what happens!!!!
>Babby is no kill!!!!
Good then.
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Whores can't be bothered to take free birth control.
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this shit used to happen all the time with gypsies and we have on demand abortion

happens with fairly normal well adjusted women too when they unexpectedly give birth at home
there is such a thing as birth psychosis
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>>535693702
Suicide (especially in the early months) also stops the baby being able to get any nutrients. 100% effective.
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>>535693626
why don't you get a vasectomy, and be done with it?
Is there a reason why you want to meddle this much into other people's lives?
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why would anyone be against abortion? You rather have an unfit mom raise a kid she doesn't want and can't afford, be a complete burden to society both financially and socially, just to have another useless little shit run around in society, ruining countless lives for what? If anything, having kids should be harder not easier.
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>>535689387
Just make it possible to anonymously leave baby, foundling wheel isn't anything new:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_hatch

But I guess pro life movements aren't really interested in life of the baby, only in suffering of the woman.
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>>535693536
You're saying women working in manufacture, as housekeepers, maids, nannies, retail, teachers, nurses, fast food employees, ...
You're saying that all those women aren't ackshually working?
where can I find one of those employers that gift out salaries without any job getting done?
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>>535693752
How would that stop you getting pregnant, baby making unit?
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>>535693823
why force a woman to give birth to a child she doesn't want? 9 months of agony + the pain of child birth which could all have been avoided with a pill.
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>>535690134
>>535691933
This. Truth right here. People fuck and uses abortion to get rid of the problem so life will go on as normal. Shit, I have 2 abortions on myself. Both women that got pregnant flushed. I had nothing to say. It was only because "Its too early in life" - women around 20 and 25. We fucked like bunnies without condom wtf expected to happen
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>>535693701
You're terrible at comparisons.
Nobody gave you the job of deciding for other adults.
If you're this very much against abortion, then go get a vasectomy or become celibate until you're married or have an established relationship.
That's the extent to which you can act on your anti-abortion position.
Anything else is literally none of your business.
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>>535693702
And people get raped all the time.
This conversation is going in circles.
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Dont worry, the homosexuals are going to fix this.
A gay startup is producing a way to have clean no poop anal sex with out any prep at a moments notice called the a-ball.
You can just avoid the gaping maw of evil and use the other hole and prevent them from getting pregnant
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>>535693734
wait, so you don't actually care about the fetus.
You'd be okay with a pregnant woman getting an abortion through suicide.
Your hypocrisy is showing.
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>>535693904
Why would I get a vasectomy? I can stop myself from having unprotected vaginal sex pretty easily and if someone rapes me I won't get pregnant because I'm a guy.
Are you actually retarded?
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>>535693937
Women lie constantly about rape. I wouldn't be surprised if actual rape barely ever happens despite the "unreported" numbers.
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>>535693180
>Ask women not to be whores
You know they won't. What women really want when they say they want abortion rights is that they want to be free from being thought of as a whore.
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>>535693972
It's not hypocritical. I don't believe in the 'sanctity of life', I don't care about fetuses, but I don't think women should have the right to make those kinds of decisions, either.
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>>535693820
>netherlands
>1.42 children per woman
>we need to go lower
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>>535693831
Yes, women also suck at all of those jobs and if you replaced them with men it'd be far more efficient.
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>>535693870
>force
It was her decision, which all could have been avoided by closing her fucking legs.
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>>535692118
>Abortion was Legal.
>Women still dumped babies in the trash to die.

>Abortion is illegal.
>Women still dump babies in the trash but this time say its because its due to abortion rights.

No son, you are the retarded one who cant understand a fucking line of thought.
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>>535693836
That's the part you can do, to support your anti-abortion stand.
You'll be saving all the woman you ever sleep with, from ever aborting a fetus with your genes.
If you had a womb, then I'd be suggesting YOU get your tubes tied.
The point is that you can only choose for yourself. Every grown up out there, eventually learns that lesson.
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>>535692274
The thing here is that you kill a life. There is nothing that you can do to get rid of that fact. Life start at conception.

Its to terminate a life. And if you follow the rabbit-hole a bit further all the abortions is part of a larger network of medical companies harvesting and selling it "science" so rich fucks can get special skincare products, use tissue to grow shit in labs and all kind of sci-fi shit. Its billions and billions of dollar industry.

>Society doesnt need more unwanted children.
many want to adopt, especially a white child.

Sex is there for children to be created. We should have a society around that shit instead of killing them off.
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>>535693820
>>535693870
We arent supposed to kill our offspring. However, you rationalize it, doing so is not the default behavior regardless of if you "want" the baby or not.
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>>535694080
Again, how does any of that stop you getting pregnant?
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>>535689387
>Child survived
Clearly better than getting spawn killed in the womb.
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>>535693876
So, are you pro-life or pro-choice?
Or pro-life for everyone else, but pro-choice for fetuses that involve you?
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So many ways to avoid pregnancy but the nut too good huh
Better extract a defenseless fetus and laugh at it
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>>535693989
In circles again.
Protected vaginal sex can result in pregnancy.
No birth control is 100% effective.
You're denser than honey, honey.
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>>535689387
Hot take, women are not fully human like men and need to be under the control of men otherwise they fuck men they shouldn't and then kill their babies.
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>>535693230
and vast majority of rape don't result in pregnancy either
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>>535693994
Really?
You only need to check your local news station to find such stories.
'Rape barely happens'. That's a demonstrably false statement.
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>>535694026
>I don't think women should have the right to make those kinds of decisions, either.
why not?
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>>535694216
>implying I have sex
>implying I can't stop myself having sex
>implying I have sex with fertile women
>implying I'm not a homosexual who only has sex with other men
>implying I don't just get off on footjobs
>implying I can't keep it in my pants
>implying I don't just do anal
>implying I don't have sex with animals or dead bodies

You must be new here, kiddo.
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>>535689541
OK? Who was the ones who said she shouldn't be allowed to?
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>>535694248
That's why sex with them is bestiality. Gay sex is the only real option for sex with another human
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>>535689387
It's also mostly elective. So it should only be covered by insurance in medical emergencies.
Problem solved.
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>>535694161
I was pro-choice and became pro-life. I didn't understand what an abortion actually was. The propaganda I got was that "its just a clump of cells bro. There will just be a bit of blood".

It ruined the relationship between me and my ex due to it. It was not just a "bit of blood". It was a child.

That fucked up my head, and that I will stand one day in front of the lord for my sins.

Second time I wanted to keep it but I have no voice for anything. I told her - I want to keep it. No she said and flushed it.

Today I am pro-life. I see possibilities instead of failure. Adoption, or just keeping it and doing the best out of the situation. For the kid to become a good outcome is how you behave in front of the kid and do not take care of the kid. Hey, I would be fucking outside every weekend with my kid if I had one, teach that little bastard all things and tricks of life, to stay away from niggers and how to do cool shit. Shit, I can skip all kind of luxury if I need to.
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>>535694031
Take the L dude.
Your argument was stupid.
Females have real jobs. Retail, nurse, fast food worker, teacher, manufacture line, ...
'jewish daycare', is some stupid argument that has no basis in reality.
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>>535694071
Texas has strict restrictions on abortion, which is the state the baby was left in the dumpster.
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>>535694279
The term "rape" has a general definition but applied to too many different and conflicting situations to be accurately represented statistically. This also means statements like "rape happens all the time" are nearly meaningless as there isnt enough relevant data to make such a claim.
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>>535694096
You made two fetuses, that later got aborted. After fucking like rabbits without any attempt of birth control.
And you still pontificate about 'killing lives'?
Did you abort your self awareness, along with the fetuses you made?
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>>535694140
Again, you can only mind your own reproductive choices.
Everyone else's are none of your business.
If you're anti-abortion, then prove it and get a vasectomy. Eliminate the chance of you ever contributing to the abortion industry.
Or become celibate. Your choice.
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>>535689541
We have private rapists in the US.
You have socialized BBC that you're forced to pay into.
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>eugenics bad
>aborting randomly good
Hmm...
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>>535689387
Abortion is basically a drive through service here and this still happens. I fucking hate abortion and people who abandon children
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>>535694216
>Protected vaginal sex can result in pregnancy.
Good
>No birth control is 100% effective.
Good
You WILL carry the unplanned baby to term, you WILL raise it for 18 years afterwards, and you WILL be happy.
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>>535689387
And now the state will need to fund that child's entire life, or it'll get adopted by a pair of married fags
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>>535689387
Women are literal traitors, they see 0.8 tfr and still do this shit, every foid deserves to be raped
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>>535689543
Women makem, so they can killem
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>>535694655
>And now the state will need to fund that child's entire life
that's literally communism, and communism is wrong
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>>535694547
>If you're anti-abortion, then prove it and get a vasectomy.
I'm not the one getting abortions. Should I also disarm myself because I'm against murdering people with guns? Fucking retard logic
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>>535694496
Whatever nigger. Not like I can about your "criticism" because I know what I did. I also know I was very young and brainwashed. I didn't know better. This was over 15 years ago. Not like we didn't have birth control, but its not 100% with condoms breaking, pills not working/forgot/accidents.

Like said - I have accepted my sin and understood what I did. Now I just share my knowledge that its not just "a bit of blood" "just a clump of cell no brain or mind" - Hey, I didn't understand what human consciousness was as its context. I was living in my own mind in fast happenings quick scenes like tiktok brain before tiktok was a thing. This we now talk over 20 years ago and there was no concept of the future or the past - it was to live in the now with no regrets. With everything going on, music, festivals, parties meeting people and women.

I have found peace with that I will burn for my sins. It was the sacrifice to Satan demanded in this time and age for the upcoming anti-Christ world order.
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>>535694820
>I have found peace with that I will burn for my sins.
No, that's only if you didn't repent. You clearly have. Jesus forgave the men that killed HIM, he will forgive you.
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>>535689387
Just use protection? Just don't have sex with jerks? It can't be that hard.
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>>535694065
or by you not fucking her, but then she is a frigid bitch who needs to put out. Just admit that you are a misogynist and you don't give a fuck about babies or healthcare, you just hate women.
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>>535694279
Real, violent rape, that includes physical force being used against the female victim, is insanely rare in the west, especially among white people. In most cases, rape is just a sexual act, that the female participant later regretted and retroactively withdrew her consent. Sure, rape is very common in the 3rd world, you're probably the product of such an encounter, but here in the west, rape is just sex, that women didn't enjoy.
>>535694216
>everyone but me is at fault for me being retarded and not understanding the consequences of my actions
I thought you thirdies have a practical way of thinking.
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>>535694948
>insanely rare
>There are over 460,000 victims of sexual violence in the U.S. every year.
>In the United States alone, nearly 3.4 million women (2.7% of the female population) have experienced a pregnancy resulting from rape in their lifetime
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>>535694820
Has* forgiven you
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>>535694948
>Sure, rape is very common in the 3rd world
Rape that includes force is very rare in the 3rd world. Its usually just sex and the female withdraws consent.
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>>535694995
Do a race based breakdown, fuck off until then.
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It's incredibly funny how /pol/ spends all day whining about immigrants taking over and declining birthrates, when, if abortion was freely accessible, most of these massive non-white families wouldn't exist. Most of them are having kids because they got nothing better to do.
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>>535694407
>Texas has strict restrictions on abortion
It could have free abortion clinics running 24/7 and it would still have this problem.

Abortion in Texas was legal from 1973 to 2022 and you STILL had women dumping babies in trash cans, drowning them in bath tubs, and so on. So you can stop trying to tell me how my country works fuck face.

100% legal where I am, yet still, women dump their babies in the trash to die, its even state paid for, and they still do it!
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>>535689387
>A baby that would have been aborted gets to live instead
the horror!
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>>535695073
I broke it down by race and mathematically proved white women can't be raped
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>>535689707
If they TRUELY wanted abortion rights, all they would have to say is
"if the father suggests and pays for abortion in X time window, then he is not liable for child support payments".
Every single nigga would run their ass down to the poles to vote in favor.

"My body my choice - but you're paying" is how it currently goes.

(of course there would be specifics to the law, like how to document it, what times are allowed, the requirement for the potential father to be notified of the pregnancy in a proper timeperiod, etc)
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>not killing this baby almost killed this baby
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>>535689387
Abortion is not health care you're terminating a life over your foolish choices
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>>535694931
Her body, her choice, remember? If it's the man's responsibility that she's pregnant then he gets a say in the abortion, right?

Which is it you lying whore? Her choice or not? Why didn't she choose to not spread her legs?

Being "not frigid" is more important than not killing a baby? How are you this fucking stupid?
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>>535695391
Unless of course there's a health complication, but that literally never happens in the history of humanity
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>>535689387
When are we going to statt governing women again?
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>>535695419
>he gets a say in the abortion, right?
The extent to which a man can choose, is in dropping his load or not.
You don't make the fetus into a baby, so you have no say in it. If you were the one growing it, then the choice would be yours.
You can't grow fetuses, so abortion will never be a choice for you. It's not that hard to understand.
You truly are a retard. Did your mom try to abort you, and left you with brain damage?
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>>535693642
Not being raw dogged is effective
But you would t know about that Pablo since you rape your niece often
Slit all Mexican throats
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>>535695323
>"My body my choice - but you're paying" is how it currently goes.
No. It was your choice when you stuck your penis in it and left your cum behind. Should've kept it in your pants, or got a vasectomy.
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>>535695256
I asked that nigger to post a racial breakdown, because I know he's using AI to generate answers, but AI will never give an answer, that would paint niggers in a bad way. This is the surest way to filter out AI bot answers, just ask them to post racial crime date, they'll either go AFK or post some hogwash about MUH SOCIOECONOMIC FACTORS type bullshit.
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>>535695736
>all pregnancies are rape babies
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>>535695777
Its literally never happened. Cry more libtard, you lost, tranny.
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>>535695677
>>535695736
>You can't grow fetuses, so abortion will never be a choice for you
Similarly a woman cannot make a baby with a man. So why should she be the only one that gets a say in what happens to it?
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>>535689387
why don't you just keep your legs closed instead of turning into a murder?
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>>535695677
Getting a load dropped in her was also the woman's choice. It's her fault you retard. Throwing the baby in the dumpster is entirely her fault. That slut could have closed her legs and ALSO not killed a baby, but failed both choices.
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>>535695920
*without a man
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>>535689387
The kind of crazy women are really disgusts me.
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>>535695923
>>535695940
The women arguing in this thread are proof they are unworthy of rights
>I HAD TO KILL THE BABY BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T LET ME KILL THE BABY
>IT'S YOUR FAULT I'M PREGNANT
>NO IT'S ENTIRELY MY CHOICE
just totally schizophrenic bullshit that should be slapped out of them
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>>535689387
You are not looking closely. This is not abortion, this is adoption.
Abortion is violence, I see an innocent child. The mother probably cursed the father, because he left her and used her as a sex toy.

Men these days suck at sex, In the past couples could transform into any creature during the sex. IF they kept the secret save.

Sex is a secret, don't think you have ever figured it out.

All recorded sex is Rape. Woman don't enjoy rape in real life, so send a camera crew to hell.

The cure?
Close your laptop, smash your smartphone to pieces or throw it into the sea.
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>>535689387
So what we just witness was .
>The middle man being removed.

The baby was gonna end up in the garbage regardless, that or flavorniods for kraft
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>>535689387
Circumcision is worse
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>>535689387
> warn you that this is what happens
It doesn't just "happen", it's a heinous crime committed by selfish and ruthless cunts.
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>>535689387
Forced Female Lobotomy is healthcare.
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>>535693702
This!
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>>535696320
Except when you rape them
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>>535689541
Any form of sex outside of wedlock is rape, but here we are. Also women are constantly lying. Also also, the woman on the picture would pretend to be so surprised when she finds out conservatives despise rape as much as she says she do and agree with her take
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>>535689541
if you have the ability to kill your rapist how did you get raped? -- WOMAN LOGIC
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>>535690121
Humans aren't meant to live the way we do now. The family unit is an important part of human society, and without it any civilization is doomed to fail. The new left and women's liberation is incompatible with humanity. If it was, we wouldn't be self destructing the way we are.
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>>535689387
>if we ban abortion the baby will survive
Yeah thats the point
Awful Twitter repost thread though
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>>535695487
Yes that doesn't happen most of the time.
Women who answered the reason their abortion they didn't want the child.
Not rape, incest or medical
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>>535696456
Yeah, he can live out the rest of his life on the street where he can beg for change
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>>535696515
Its literally never happened libtard. You lost tranny.
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>>535695940
In circles again.
Rape exists.
And I didn't say anything about the baby in the dumpster.
Learn to follow the context of the comments.
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>>535696515
its like 95% of the time is elective too.
The other 5% has "health reasons" in there, unrelated from "safety".
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>>535689861
it's always been about killing kids. Z the greatest evil kikes ever introduced was somehow convincing mothers to kill their children; be it abortion or postpartum. the second being circumcision
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>>535695920
Because she's the one growing it to term.
There's two parts, the conception and the development.
Your contribution to making an embryo, stops the moment you drop your load.
The second part is developing it into a fetus and then to term. You have 0 involvement in that part. Because you're NOT the one growing it.
It's not that hard to understand.
If you were the one growing it, then the choice would only be yours. But you aren't growing it, so it isn't your choice at all.
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>>535695888
0 reading comprehension.
Have you even graduated from high school?
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>>535689541
In Moldova the town shared the rapist. These entitled bitches want it all.
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>>535689387
>if you don't let us kill our babies, we'll...kill our babies!
How fucking stupid do you have to be to think this is a good counter argument?
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>>535696751
nigger if i open a joint account with my girlfriend and make the initial deposit you bet your FUCKING ASS it's my choice what happens with that money
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>>535695684
>Not being raw dogged is effective
Circles again.
Rapes happen. 'Not being raw dogged', isn't a solution. You can get raw dogged by a nigger behind a dumpster.
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>>535693140
Did it ever occur to you to keep your legs closed?
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>>535696813
Its the "if you make guns illegal, only criminals will have guns" argument all over again
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>>535696828
Growing a fetus isn't akin to having a bank account.
I see USA teachers are too busy fucking their students, instead of teaching the kids how to make comparisons.
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>>535696840
How about you step into reality, where rape exists and the government can't protect you from it?
The solution would be for men to keep it in their pants, or get vasectomies.
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>>535696751
so if men have no say the matter, then they are absolved of all responsibility right?
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>>535696951
>rape exists so lets kill the innocent third party for being a rape baby
this is your brain on liberal compassion
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>>535689387
>As a modern white woman, it is my HUMAN RIGHT to have as much unprotected sex with negroids without having to deal with the consequences!
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>>535697036
also about 90% of all reproduction in nature doesn't involve consent. human women should count themselves lucky they aren't being gang raped the second they're born like some insects.
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>>535697173
You're lucky I don't rape you. Now raise this nigger baby for the rest of your life. Its literally a crime not to.
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>>535696632
Rape barely happens and women lie about it constantly, and at this point it's also her fault, why didn't she have a male chaperone?
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>>535689541
Because everyone and especially women knows that virginity matters, so they place the responsibility of them not being virgins on someone else rather than their own mistake. Rape doesn't exist anyway unless you're in a context of pillaging, if a woman chooses to go with a man far enough away from men she trusts, she wants to get fucked by this man, thus she consented. "I was too far away for anyone to hear me" means she deliberately went so far away no one would hear her scream her orgasm. It's regret, never rape.
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>>535689387

babies were found in bins before abortion became purely a matter for individual states to decide.

Protip: Abortion isnt illegal, it depends which state you are in.

Why do women want to kill their baby anyway?
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>>535697173
Which insects specifically? Not doubting, just genuinely curious.
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>>535689426
Child murder you are jewish get of the internet niggrr kikes ommunist marxrt It never st fuckimg.shithead
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>>535689387
>Women who are willing to abort are just as willing to throw their baby in a dumpster if they don't get to
Wow, you really disproved our argument here.
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>>535694375
Female nurses are way more abusive and neglectful than male nurses, look up Florence Nightingale, a rare genius woman who surprise surprise fucking hated women
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>>535697259
>kill this baby to punish the rapist somehow
you jews are all the same, like seriously why do you only care to sacrifice to Moloch?
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>>535696951
Get your tubes tied
100% no pregnancy.
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>>535689433
More pedo brahmin dying my heat wave Jewish Zionist dying in drove Les your will die painfully septic asswipea
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>>535689541
>I might as well kill my rapist!
>Okay, lets get rid of the people doing the rapes
>NOOOO YOU FUCKING RACIST
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>>535697519
Sacrifice? No, you have to raise it forever or I'll put you in prison forever. These are your only two choices
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>>535689541
Everyone has a regretful hookup
Women turn it into a political ideology
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>>535689387
>if you don't let us kill babies then we'll just kill babies
This is where a DNA database would come in handy, if we could ever trust globohomo with one.
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>>535693820
Actions without consequences= there's no an insentive to change the behaviour.

This is why niggers in U.S can do whatever they want because there's no consequences for their actions.
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>>535697581
You were that rape baby. Do you understand now?
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>>535689477
Checked and truth pilled. This thread should have ended here.
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>>535689387
I literally cannot imagine living in a society that's so mercenary that giving birth lands you with a five figure bill. When I took my wife to the hospital to give birth (twice, and yes both are mine genetically) the only expense was parking, and even that annoyed me.
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>>535689387
>we told you we’d figure out another way to dump our babies!
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>>535697748
Let's look at the uk birth rates.
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Abortion of nonwhites is healthcare for the world.
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>>535697920
Don't worry. You can import jeets to make up the difference.
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People who are fully anti-abortion are so fucking stupid and they also don't help make childcare easier or more affordable. You have to be retarded in order to oppose early abortion.
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>>535698149
Hi rabbi
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>>535689541
Rapist = someone they wanted to fuck but change their mind afterwards for whatever silly reason they like
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>>535689387
They should put more babies into trash.
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>>535689387
If women are able to murder their own children why can't I murder them for murdering innocent babies?

If you should have access to kill things you don't like I should have the same access to kill things I don't like.

It is as simple as that.
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>>535698299
No, you can't murder her, you have to take care of her for the rest of her life.
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>>535698299
>an adult human is the same as a fetus
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>>535689387
Lmao imagine being a woman and throwing a baby in the trash, then trying to justify it with "You should have let me kill it earlier"
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>>535698670
Carefully explain how a baby that has committed zero crimes and has been pure is more worthwhile to kill than a grown human let alone a grown woman who murders because they are inconvenienced?
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>>535689387
Here a problem:
She kills her child: and she is a heroine. I kill her and the child and I get charged TWO counts of murder?!
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>>535698704
>oy vey, if I didn't kill it someone else woulda!
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>>535698299
why do men have such a hard time dealing with the fact that women are the arbiters of life?
Only they can choose, because only they can make the life into a fetus and eventually a newborn.
Blame biology if you want. But you need to stay in your lane.
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>>535694096
>Sex is there for children to be created.
Control over whether sex causes pregnancy changed the world for the better. If you doubt this, find out about the miserable ugliness of secret abortions and adoptions, avoidable deaths, and social stigma that used to grind people to dust.
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>>535694096
>Life start at conception.
Forgot to mention, about 2 in 5 conceptions just get flushed as non-viable before the mother even knows she's pregnant. Most of those are male. You want to save every last microscopic bundle of cells because they're 'a life'? Do you even see how you're being ridiculous?
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>>535689387
the judeo-christian culture btw!

thanks God, the lord of Jesus and Muhammad pbut for Islam!
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judeo-christian mother with her child: >>535690958

muslim mother with her child:
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>>535696862
this is realy sad
i pray iran flatten israel and america
fuck israel
fuck america
fuck satan
fuck baal



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