I don't get it. Iran still has their nuclear materials, they have control of the Strait of Hormuz and we are giving them more money? It's just the pre-war status quo but better for Iran. What was the point of the war
>>535711855>What was the point of the warHere's something that no professional historian will tell you because they feel like it's reductive: Decapitation strikes are the hallmark of someone who knows they have no actual chance of winning.America essentially tried to do their own Pearl Harbor and it's presently ending about as poorly.Iran used to be some Literally Whos.Your fuckup essentially elevated them to a middle power i.e they're now as important to the middle east as Germany and France are to the EU.From here on onward anything involving the middle east will have to make "how does Iran feel about this?" Part of the general equation.
>>535711855Danegeld.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYzZHRwxc-Q
>>535711855Trump went full retard by killing all their leaders and thinking that would end the war. He then realized it would be a Vietnam type of deal in which similar to bug people, inbred sand people literally do not care about casualties. America lost.
>>535712709>America*DRUMPF
>>535712709Uh oh it's the narcissist again.
>>535711855Trump is claiming this deal is better than Obama's lol
>>535711855It's almost like the Generals and Admirals who unanimously told Trump that something like this would happen were correct
>>535712709This is true on some level. Iran had basically proven themselves to be resilient to air superiority alone. It would take a ground invasion to finish the job which would be too costly vs keeping them contained.
Dont overthink it he makes the same tweet every Sunday its just some smoke and mirrors. This "not a war" will end when they are done in Lebanon and not a day sooner.
You knew he was a snake when you picked him up. He told you every rally. Suck it up.
>>535711855Trump won so bigly in such a 4-d chess master move that it only LOOKS that way on the surface.
>>535712922>>535712709>>535711855Only solution is fucking nuking. Coming to agreement with the surrounding neighborhood of countries, you simply continue decapitation strikes, but this time make it the whole population center like Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Tehran is the operational center for most of Irans government, a single nuclear warhead to the center of the city would probably do the trick in wiping out most of the irgc. They have to be considering this.
>>535713089IRAN IS LITERALLY COLLAPSING WHILE XEETING A BIG GAME ON XITTERIRAN IS NOT AFGHANISTAN IT CANT HIDE IN CAVES FOR 20 YEARS THIS ON OFF OPERATION EBIN HALF MEASURES WAS MERELY A FRACTION OF AMERICAS POWERCOPING THIRDOIDS LIKE TO PUSH THE AMERICA LOST NARRATIVEMISTAKE AMERICA FOR WEAK AT YOUR OWN RISK THIRDYS
>>535713553The political implications of this wouldn’t even be that deep. If they simply wait until Iran has nuclear capability, then we have total reason to drop bombs, killing everyone with fallout and radiation. If they paint the Iranians as going to strike first is that not reason?
>>535713553>>535715035you retards can't think too far ahead into the future if you believe this
>>535715140Why? Once they have weapons grade uranium, Iran will strike someone. Say what you want about jews and our government being zog, it doesn’t change that once they have capability, they will use it, tensions have reached that point. Irans government does not like the US, they never have, and even more so after this whole ordeal. The delay of talks and consistent breakdown of diplomatic talk could even be the time they are using to further enrich it. If other nations take it as opportunity to escalate their own wars we likely won’t involve ourselves, or we might even take the side of the winners of said wars. Our current administration does not have the tact to think about this in a calculated manner. They are not capable of actually fighting wars, so you have to think about this like they might. It’s not 4d chess. Trump is addled. They have been firing and replacing generals, and other top military officials and leadership.
>>535711855>It's just the pre-war status quo but better for Iran.Thats called losing
>>535713553The IRGC are hiding in bunkers like these
>>535713227sure, he has his problemshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gujPXF1WLKI&ra=m
>>535716947Would radiation and nuclear fire not kill them? I believe we have enough warheads to literally kill everyone. Which we wouldn’t have to do. Just areas where there’s known to be irgc and government officials. Just because they are underground doesn’t mean they are saved, if they can’t even go outside they have no choice but to die.
>>535716947They’ve also structured their government such that individual IRGC cells can operate independently regardless of “decapitation” strikes. Sanctions and the constant threat of attack from Isreal and it’s American lapdog have only made them more resilient.
>>535717503Elaborate how nuclear bombs on every known location wouldn’t end it?
>>535717615The fragments that remain would beg not to be killed
Nothing ever happens
>>535717467nukes aren't magic, dude. their destructive power isn't infinite.mountain bunkers are meant to survive direct nuclear strikes.
>>535717467They are protected by 100-300 meters of hard rock and ultra high strength concrete. Many IRGC bunkers are better protected than the Raven Rock complex.Presumably, the people inside have MOP gear and enough provisions to last for years.
>>535717955>>535718017Radiation. If you can’t have things brought to you, if you can’t even go outside, you die. They can’t hold up in there for years on end. They can’t perform military operations if they are stuck. What will they do? Dig holes to shoot missiles out like roaches when they can’t go to the topsoil long without dying rapidly? People can’t survive long being cave dwellers like that. They would start to eat each other lol.
>>535717615Even Trump isn’t loonie enough to start dumping nukes on Iran. If that’s what Israel wants so badly, let them use their own nukes.
>>535713553The jews fucked up hard liberalizing america because it's made it so our population doesn't have the balls of military capacity for total war type airborne carpet bombing of city's like WW2.If we were doing a Dresden on Iran every week they would fall eventually but our nation simply doesn't have the spirit for it because women can vote and their feelings have to be heard lol.Fuck kikes though nuke Israel instead etc.
>>535718418And if they do, it’s the same thing, because we are tied to them now. Trump wants glory, this is obvious too, so I don’t think he would allow anyone else to take it.
The chutzpah of israel attacking iran over nuclear weapon research is fascinating because israel possesses nuclear weapons, covertly, outside international treaties/law, while enjoying the blessing of the entire western political establishment. that hypocrisy right there proves more than anything that western norms only serve the west
>>535718592Going down as someone who genocides whole cities and opens up the nuclear can of worms is a bit of a shit legacy dude.
>>535718392If you cover the area outside the tunnel entrances with radioactive material, what the people inside will do is they will send guys with bulldozers to cover the radioactive material with soil. Every base is equipped with many bulldozers in and around the base, whose normal task is to clear any entrances that have been destroyed by bombs. The guys might die soon from radiation sickness, but I don't think the IRGC lacks men willing to sacrifice for the cause.>Dig holes to shoot missiles out like roachesThey actually do this. Many IRGC bases have holes through which missiles can be fired. Picrel is an example.>People can’t survive long being cave dwellers like that.Why not? Presumably, they have enough food to last for years.
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I dont believe anything unless its official on both sides. this war is very fake and very gay
>>535718778Another example
>>535711855Go away neocon warhawk.
There was no point. Trump was just retarded.The best deal he could get, probably, is literally just a repeat of the Iran nuclear deal, the "worst deal ever". Iran gives up enriched uranium stockpile, agrees to cap it to 3.67%, agrees to IAEA inspections, lets the US keep their military presence and promises (again) they won't build a nuclear weapon. There's no reason for Iran to agree to this because for all they know, America may just rip up this deal too after another 8 years.But even if Trump gets a repeat of the JCPOA, that basically means the war was pointless. If Trump literally did nothing we would have the same deal, except there would be fewer dead civilians, schoolgirls, and US servicemen, no rising oil and gas prices and a stronger economy. And even worse, if Trump did nothing, Iran wouldn't be controlling the Strait of Hormuz - it would still just be theoretical. So even if Trump did a repeat of the Iran deal, Iran will still gain the ability to hold the entire global economy hostage.
>>535718723Who gives a fuck when a few hundred years from now history will be remembered by the victors. We already have committed genocide against many. The US has a bloody history. As do most countries. This current world peace we’ve been experiencing since ww2 was only a stasis while we all regroup and reorganize. The ideology based wars haven’t ended, only deepened, for example the Cold War never actually ended, just changed forms, the tensions never actually disappeared. As things become more constrained and the major powers that be fight for their stake in the world, what do you think is bound to happen? Right now, Trump as a leader wants to make his mark upon the world, this has been proven, and so do his cronies, this is very important because it will dictate how far things go.
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>>535711855Looks like Trump really fucked up. Not that you could've seen that from the beginning
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>>535718748>>535718778>>535718896I think the chances of their survival and retaliation are nullified in this scenario. Imagine if a nuclear warhead is dropped directly on the site, do you not think the earthquake alone would cause tunnels to collapse? The openings flooded with radiation and heat, the resounding earthquake collapsing structures and filling the area with debris, potentially radioactive, weeks worth of being trapped with no guarantee that as soon as you show sign of life another warhead will get dropped on you? Sounds like hell.
>>535719148>I’m even dumber than TrumpImpressive, very nice.
>>535719464Suck my fucking dick faggot. I just don’t want my life to get fucked up by some mullah thousands of miles away because the jews feel like preparing another terrorist attack using them. I hope both Israel and Iran burn because of this conflict.
>>535719565How so nigger, nothing I said was wrong. You live in some canook fantasy land filled with jeets and impotents.
>>535719575>>535719681>I’m so scared of some sand niggers on the other side of the world that I think global thermonuclear war is the way to go
>>535718722PISRAEL IS A PROXY OF AMERICAMEANWHILST IRAN IS A PROXY OF THE AXIS IRAN SAYS DEATH TO AMERICATHATS REASON ENOUGH TO STEAMROLL EMTHE AIR CAMPAIGN ALONE IS CRATERING IRAN THEN CAME THE NAVAL BLOCKADEIRANNY IS BEING DESTROYED >>535714365 FOR THEIR AMBITIONS TO TAKE OVER THE MIDDLE EAST DESPITE TEHRAN BOB SHILLING ON XITTER THAT EVERYTHING IS FINEAMERICA HAS AN INTEREST IN WHO CONTROLS THE MIDDLE EAST AND ITS NOT OPENLY DECLARED ENEMIES OF AMERICA LIKE EYERAN
>>535719575seems like your life is already fucked up because your parents treated you like the piece of garbage that you are. if you think dropping some nukes will solve your problems you are very mistaken
>>535719855Would you not have some fear if a country openly declared you its enemy, and proved itself to be a threat? Why are you Canadian posters usually such asswipes? It’s maybe every other that is just an incorrigible twat and I assume it’s because you’re brown and hate your-self.
>>535720203Just mad because I’m right or something. What solution do you see for this conflict? So far from what I hear from most it’s that we should all let the people who want to fuck us, fuck us.
>>535719493Iran is an extremely earthquake-prone region. I think the Iranian engineers have considered earthquake-like effects.Rock is very effective at stopping radiation
>>535720335Wrong pic, meant this
>>535711855>What was the point of the warJewstein files distraction
>>535720335There’s no true preparation for this scenario when they’ve never even done live testing of a nuclear bomb. You can pretend like this won’t massively effect them, but why? Apparently the us even has bunker buster style warheads.
>>535711855I guess you lot didn't expect Iran to put up such a fight
>>535720331desu I don't see a real solution yet, but Trump shouldn't have started attacking Iran in the first place, because there was no real threat to America from Iran. But I know that nuking wouldn't solve the conflict, but it would worsen things a lot because it could (and probably would) trigger a major nuclear war on a global scale.and even as things are today, you don't need to worry about those mullah niggers causing a real threat to you
>>535720595The US military knows more about nukes than anyone else, and yet the US military apparently thinks Raven Rock is good enough to use as an alternate Pentagon, even though modern ultra high performance concrete didn't exist when Raven Rock was built
>>535720657WHAT FIGHT THEY ARE GETTING COMPLETELY ANNIHILATEDALL IRANNY CAN DO IS TERRORISM ON CIVILIAN OIL BOATSTERRORISM VERY MUCH IN CHARACTER FOR IRANTHE UNITED NATIONS NEEDS TO PASS A RESOLUTION AGAINST IRANS ILLEGAL ACTIONS IN THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZZYBUT THEIR LEFTOID TDS HAS THEM TRAPPED SIDING AGAINST ORANGE MAN
>>535711855FAFO KWABOTY SNEED
>>535720657LMAO! What fight? You mean the fight they conceded to by giving up their refined uranium? Dumb faggot shitskin is coping that Iran lost.
>>535713553>MEIN FUHRER, WE STARTED A WAR FOR NO REASON, WE MUST NUKE ZEM!Even Doctor Strangelove wasn't this deranged. At least he wanted to nuke communists, kind of.
>>535720900Also, we can consider the bunker under Mount Weather, which seems to be even less well-protected, and that's the bunker US politicians are supposed to hide in when WW3 breaks out
>>535721123THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN OF THE 1979 ISLAMIC REVOLUTION ARE LITERAL ACKTUAL COMMIESTHEY ARE BACKED BY CHYNA AND R*SSIA COMMIESITS THE COMMIE AXIS VS AMERICAIRAN WAS PREVIOUSLY AN AMERICAN ALLY THATS WHY THEY HAVE SOME OLD F14STHEY WERE ALSO ZOROASTRIANS THE CURRENT ISLAMIC REGIME WHO TOOK OVER IN A MILITARY COUP ARE OCCUPIERS OF PERSIATHEY JUST NEED TO RETVRN TO TRADITION AMERICA FOUGHT A 50 YEAR WAR AGAINST GOMMUNISM AND IT CONTINUES TO THIS DAYTHE PEOPLE OF PERSIA WANT IPHONES
>>5357208599/11 was scary, and subsequently going to Afghanistan to deal with mullah niggers was not fun anon. The 100% ptsd disability checks and weed card don’t outweigh my fear I guess. I don’t think it would trigger global nuclear war, if this was the case the bombs dropped before should have been the signal for total war. Fear of mutual annihilation is grounds to create treaties in this scenario. In hindsight, I understand your perspective, but we seem to be on a rather unfortunate path. >>535720900Yeah I am not sure anon, I don’t think any of us are. Nuclear bombs have changed over the years too, our country has an estimated 5000+, enough to end everything and everyone. >>535721123What’s the solution? Do you think diplomacy can happen at this point? Trump has apparently reached for nuclear codes once already if the news of it was to be believed, I don’t think it’s out of the question or realms of what could happen with how things are.
>>535716947Pic with more bases
>>535721771You think a lot of these could be connected via tunnel?
>>535722050Connected to each other? No, in most cases they are too far away from each other. There are a few bases that are located close each other and could maybe be connected by tunnels. Picrel is such an example
>>535711855There's nothing to get. Trump is a retard
>>535711855I thought we were unbeatable. This is embarrassing. How is it we were able to drop bombs on their program and take Venezuela in a few hours. But we can't beat this sandniggers? We rolled over Iraq twice in less the time. Iraq was equal footing with Iran back then. How is it that they are all of a sudden a power? How is it that we can't just roll over them with air and missile strikes from our navy? Why can't we control the straight with our navy? I thought we were the most powerful in the world.
>>535720911If they are getting annihilated why isn't the war over? If they are hiding in the mountains with their government, how are they able to control their people?
