Libertarians believe> empirical data is not important to verify if their theories are correctImagine seriously being so retarded you think reality doesnt matter.
>>535798097Libertarians believe in freedom.
the holocaust didnt happen.
>>535798238Neither did the holodomor
>>535798227> lolbertarians believe in freedomI knew one of you morons would say this.Below is the link to the Libertarian think tank Liberty fund's website from 2010, where they claimed pic related> According to Samuel Noah Kramer in From the Tablets of Sumer (1956), Lagash was the site of the first recorded social-reform movement. Once considered a relatively free society of farmers, cattle breeders, boatmen, fishermen, merchants, and craftsmen, the Lagashites found that a change in political power had stripped them of their political and economic freedoms and subjected them to heavy taxation and exploitation by wealthy officials.https://web.archive.org/web/20100612194527/http://libertyfund.org/logo.htmlIt turns out what ama-gi actually meant was "return to the mother", that is the government would cancel debts and give people back the land they lost to usurers when they fell into debt. It turns out freedom in the ancient world actually meant telling usurers and worthless parasites to eat shit so society could function.
>>535798097Actually, I got some interesting data points for you, just get on this helicopter and I'll show you.
>>535798601Yes it did. Name one country where it is illegal to question it.
>>535798227>>535798744Unfortunately today the lolbertarians at the liberty fund took down the explanation for their logo out of embarrassment https://about.libertyfund.org/resources.htmlHowever before the truth about what ama-gi meant came out, a bunch of lolbertarian bozos like this guy got tattoos of the word because they actually thought> ancient babylonians were free market libertarians LOLOLOLO YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING RETARDED HAHAHAHAHA. PULL OUT YOUR FREEDOM FORESKIN TATTOO. O WAIT YOU DONT HAVE A FORESKINLMAAAAAAAOOOOOO
>>535798744You obviously have never worked a job or payed taxes. Your opinion is irrelevant, your parents are disappointed in you.
>>535798786The state invented modern money i.e. debt. Cope and seethe. Then dilate.
>>535799065The state invented money, yet you hate the state but love money. But you cant have money without the state, making your entire ideology a contradiction.
>>535799077No it didn't. You have to be 18 to post here faggot. Maybe if you weren't such a dumb faggot kids wouldn't pick on you in school.
>>535798830Ukraine and Germany. Now, will you admit you are a retatard?
>>535799137>you can't have money without the state.Oh, yeah, like BitCoin, I forgot.
What did they mean by that?
>>535799197Wrong, try again you fucking homo
>>535799267The only reason bitcoin is valuable is you can exchange it for real currencies. No one wants stupid ass bitcoin for their own sake>>535799171Name one example of money that existed before the ancient kingdoms of sumeria that could compel others to perform labor> you cant
>>535799137Money is money and freedom is freedom.
>>535799300Get on your knees and suck my BBC (Big Bolshevik Cock) now Tranny .
>>535799549Well clearly no one else in history thought a bunch of greedy financial parasites equaled freedom. It turns out they enslave everyone and steal their land.
>>535799383>The only reason bitcoin is valuable is you can exchange it for real currencies.lol, okay so how do you define 'real currency'? You probably don't know because you are young and stupid. I'm guessing you are still in high school and going through your "le intellectual phase" and think being a "communist" makes you look edgy and smart because anyone over the age of 18 making these arguments would just be too embarrassing.>Name one example of money that existed before the ancient kingdoms of sumeria that could compel others to perform laborGold motherfucka.
Liberals won.
Can any Marxist in here answer this simple question?>how would the workers actually own the means of production
>>535799891Gold is not money. If gold was money, why did ancient states have to turn it into coins in the first place?> how do you define real currencyYou can use it to pay your taxes to the state. Which makes money a debt owed to the state. Youre conflating the ancient merchant economy (that used gold) with the ancient real economy (that involved labor and agriculture)
>>535800123Do you know some unions are older than 30 years?
incel thread
>>535800123The same way the state controls people, violence
>>535798097Communism failed 40 years ago buddy, it's time to move on
>>535800171>Gold is not money. If gold was money, why did ancient states have to turn it into coins in the first place?You are actually too retarded to have a conversation with. They turned it into coins so it is easier to carry around, not so they could pay it to the state. The state evolved as a type of protection racket that would extract tribute from people that would eventually become taxes. Money predates taxes and the state.
>>535800479You couldnt even have wealth to store in the form of gold in the first place without the state. Because wealth comes from labor, and the only labor people did in the ancient world was farming against their will.Other groups of people like nomads, hunter gatherers, etc had absolutely no need for money or shiny rocks.All you have to do is a list a single example, but you can't because you're just making things up.L M A O
>>535800230Ok, whats your point?>>535800370Ok, but once theres nobody left to be violent to, how do the workers actually own the means of production?
>>535800918>Because wealth comes from laborImagine still believing in the labor theory of value.had absolutely no need for money or shiny rocks.As trading networks became more complex they did.Not only are you a faggot, but you are also dumb. A dumb faggot who wants free shit because he is too lazy to work.
>>535801668Youre the one who thinks trading rocks was a legitimate form of work in the ancient world you lazy retard.> dude imagine believing the people farming produced the wealth and not the guy trading rocks to other retards for rocks LOLOLOLO
>>535798097Third Way is the only way to go Marxist scum.
>>535801494how can a company exist for 30 years with a union of its workers butting in for 30 years in the running of the company?
