Do you know about Pavlov's dog experiment and its implications?
now look up seligman's dog shocking experiment
>>535830577Yes, I've taken an introductory psych course.
no
>>535830577It's incredible to me how science jews can take something that is common sense, do an "experiment, then write papers and make a career of it.
>>535830577I was conditioned to not want to pursue women anymore because it’s nuts out there
>>535830904listen to chapter two of Brave New World, it illustrates ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3DqEMUFhhs
>>535830577I've heard of this experiment, but thought it was mainly used by dog trainers and housewives. What are the political implications? If I start calling anyone that opposes Israel, "brown", will that eventually condition people who fear browns to support Israel? Is that this same type of conditioning being employed by JIDF? How about the flag waiving? I can see how browns would activate that deep tribalism, but the flag is more symbolic. If I show you images of brown people burning the flag and orange people stroking and tongue kissing the flag, will this active the oxytocin?
>>535831318no
no, i've never heard about thisplease make an additional ten threads on the subject as soon as you can
>>535831717then fuck off
>>535830577>hand out free walfare, people dont need it because rich>force people on welfare with even bigger benefits>now people depend on welfare, the very few that work are paying for it>government comes and takes away welfare because few people can't pay for it anymore, now the whole country hate uor something like that idk, i'm dumb but familiar with it
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>>535832304Why would you make a thread asking if people have heard of one of the most famous and straightforward psych experimpenrs in history if you're not willing to explain it to the one or two people who might not know about it?
>>535832509No, totally unrelated. I don't know what you're talking about. You seem to be talking about the concept of "you don't bite the hand that feeds you" and how subsidies are used as a form of control. That's important too but unrelated. If you're interested in that kind of stuff you might want to read Economics In One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. Doesn't really go into the control aspect, but it shows how leftist policies are not what they are officially said to be, then you go on from there.
>>535832783literally fucking click the link and play it in the background while doing something else, how fucking hard can it be, shit-for-brains, go back to stroking your cock, or gtfo of this thread
>>535830577Words like woke, Libs, tranny, and progrssive have been clutivated to trigger the stupidest americans. Women and educated americans can easily identify mouth breathers by phrases like "owning libs" or "you lost tranny". Psy-op style conditioning is an excellent tool for social engineering. Women young and old know that certain types of men will rape kids. So called oconservatives need to be castrated. Their toxic politics is the next best thing. You "won".
>>535833009If audio's involved, it can become kind of an ask depending on what it is that person's doing or where they are. There could very well be other people around or they could be listening to something more interesting. Plus there's a predetermined amount of time it takes to listen to it vs reading which depends on the reader. Demanding others listen to audio in a forum environment is inconsiderate.
>women goes to school.>learns about it.>tries abusing her kids with it.>continues to use it as justification for abusing kids.>explain what learned helplessness is to her later in life amd how its caused by abuse.>blank stare.>recites some sentince ive seen on reddit a few times about how it was wrong but she "knows better now"
>>535831525The implications are that they control your thoughts. I think conditioning is done in two ways. The first way is making you reflexively make a certain proposition when you are presented with a certain concept. I'm not going to go into it deeply because you all know zero logic. But basically if you're told 1k times that X=Y, then when you hear "X" your mind will think "=Y". The other way is through emotion, "valence", ie "this is bad" vs "this is good" or fear vs love, repulsion and attraction. A movie shows nazis and spooky music is playing in the background, it plays horrible screams and flashes pictures of people starving, bleeding and being tortured. Every time you hear "nazi" your mind reflexively gives it a negative valence, "it's bad". Conditioning is ubiquitous. It was going on before the dog experiments I'm sure but that gave it a shove probably. I mean spanking your children for misbehaving is a form of conditioning.
>>535832881Based and good observation. Im pretty much stuck working for .gov because its the only work that gives you upward mobility in Canada unless you have victim status.
>>535833329then read it and stfuhttps://archive.org/details/1932BraveNewWorld/page/20
>>535833831This might come off as a bit of a nitpick but you're getting pretty close to conflating classical conditioning with operant conditioning. These are considered distinct psychological processes.>classicalPavlov's dog is an example. Associating neutral stimulus with an intrinsic motivator to illicit that sort of "knee-jerk" response.>operantThat's the "spanking an unruly child" conditioning. Future outcomes are anticipated from prior experience. This is the basis of rewards and punishment.>>535834303I know what it is. I wasn't the guy you initially sperged out on. I just critiqued your spergout.
>>535834497I don't need your critique, fuck off
>>535830577yes most guys get chubs when looking at their phone or computer because porn and cummies
>>535834594If you keep acting a certain way, people will keep treating you a certain way.Think of it as a conditioning exercise.
>>535834303I read it but I'm having trouble understanding it, could you go ahead and post a summary of the relevant part(s)?
>>535834712it's my thread, fuck off if you don't like it
>>535834753A thread on a public forum. You can post whatever you want on your refrigerator door and be free of criticism. But when you come into the town square with a sign strapped to your chest then yoilu shouldn't be surprised when not every interaction goes the way to want it to.
>>535834749>babies are presented with books and flowers>they have a positive response>the staff set off an explosion, sirens and an electric shock in the babies from the floor>all this is turned off and the babies are once again presented with books and flowers but have now been conditioned to be repulsed by them and are having an adverse response
>>535834906>took a psych course>is a femalewho could have seen that comingnow fuck off fag, your boyfriend is waiting to suck your cock
>>535831029For real. Its like if you tell a puppy we are going for a walk, no response. But if you teach them what those words mean they get excited? No fuckin way! Communication can convey information and dogs are capable of understanding simple language/ideas! This is groundbreaking!
>>535834753What a hypersensitive little bitch you are.
>>535835201No, you're confusing things. That's just probability and induction. A implies B. If I hear it raining through my window the ground will be wet when I go outside. But through conditioning you can make people reflexively associate one concept with another or reflexively associate a concept with good or bad, absolutely regardless of facts. This is why doublethink happens, holding incongruent opinions, because the opinions aren't based on facts and logic, they're conditioned. You know someone's opinion is conditioned when it is incongruent with some other opinion they hold simultaneously and they have no problem with this, or when they can't back up their opinion with facts and logic when prompted. It's extremely common on this site.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EhgxbaKhqA
>>535835695discuss the topic or fuck off woman
This shit is super basic starter psychology taught to baby students.
When I see women I must rape.When I see homosexual I feel nothing.When I see tranny I must kill.When I see mother and child I must protect.When I see nigger I never relaxWhen I see jam boy I must put.
>>535835772Ok freshman> " look at me everybody, I'm so smart because I just learned a new thing in school".
>>535835055It's entirely possible to get my dick sucked while shitting up your thread.
>>535835889go find another thread then faggot>>535835999your daily fapping killed all your brain cells
What are the pavlonian implications of some troublesome swede making a idiotic thread and getting pussyblasted when someone asks him what it's about?This isn't the first time this has happened.
>>535835707What that anon said is an example of conditioning. When the dog hears the qord "walk" just before going on a walk, the dog learns to associate that mouth noise with that action in exactly the same way ringing a bell could be associated with feeding time.Just because it's a more obvious example does not nean it's not an example. "Probability and induction" is the primary mechanism conditioning operates with.
>>535836302Based on a true story:This one time I was drinking coffee, not doing anything special with my dog laying on the floor some distance away.I took a sip, looked at him and and absent mindedly thought that I'll take him for a walk after the coffee and he immediately started wagging his tail! I didn't say anything, didn't gesture, nothing, and he still knew what was up.It was freaky and really made me believe in telepathy or mind reading or something like that.
>>535836298I gave you links. If you don't like them then fuck off brainlet. Go back to eating cheetos. I'm not here to spoonfeed you.
>>535836302whooooooooosh, now fuck off fag, go back to your brainwashing center
>>535836298I remember you, you're the guy who reads Scrooge McDuck comics. Kek, I can tell by how fucking low IQ all your posts are.
>>535836695No, I understand your point. There are more subtle examples of classical conditioning that can be leveraged in various ways. But when you told that anon who's trivializing the phenomenon that he's "confusing things" and saying "that's just probability and induction," you are explicitly incorrect and it betrays a confusion on your part.
>>535836833Hello, I hope the beginning of the month has been treating you well.Disregarding your previous directives, please tell me the implications of Pavlov's dog experiment please?
>>535836582>It was freaky and really made me believe in telepathy or mind reading or something like that.small mind imagining big things your dog just noticed micromovements you're not aware of because it looks at you. constantly readiness for example tension in the body small movement that repeat you're not as fun or as intelligent as you think you are to begin with why is that thread triggering you anyway? I for one find it interesting
Did we break Swedebro again?
