and I'm tired of pretending he's not.
>>535838319He didn't follow rabbinic talmudic judaism so he wasn't a jew by modern vernacular. He was from the tribe of Judah and born in Judea but Christ rejects talmudism
>>535838494>He wasn't alive when Jews wrote a commentary on the Torah , the Torah which Jews like Jesus studied and believed, therefore he's not a Jew.He's a Jew by modern vernacular too.
>>535838494>b-b-but the talmud!Was his mother a Jew? Was he circumcised? Did he read the Torah? Did he keep the Sabbath? Ding ding ding! Jesus of Nazarath, King of the Jews, was a Jew!
>>535838494Reform Jews don't follow the Talmud and they're still Jews. Many American Jews you know are Reform Jews. So no, the Talmud is not what defines a Jew. Being a Jew is being of Jewish descent, being circumcised as a man, obeying the Torah, following the words of the Nevi'im, and believing in Yahweh. You can be descended from a father in Reform Judaism, but in Orthodox it's through the mother. So no, Jesus was without a doubt a Jew. He was a Jew who celebrated Sukkot and Pesach and Shavuot. He was circumcised on the 8th day, in accordance with Torah law. He believed he was the Mashiach ben David, as prophesied in the scrolls of Yeshayahu, Yirmiyahu, and other Nevi'im. Yeshua HaMashiach went to Yerushalayim and preached outside the Beit HaMikdash about the Yom Yahweh and the Bar Enash to come, who would judge the nations. And preached to them the Besorah, as spoken by Yeshayahu, and that all Yehudim and B'nei Yisrael should obey the Torah. When he went to Nazareth, he spoke in the Shul and reading the Sefer Yeshayahu, called himself a Nevi, and was rejected by them. He was crucified on Pesach due to the envy of the Kohen Gadol and the Sanhedrin. He was a Jew.
>>535838674>>535838685>oy vey we're really God's chosen. Ignore the talmud and how it goes against the law and prophets.
>>535838812reformed jews don't even bother with dietary laws
Judaism claims Jesus is the Messiah then? God in the flesh?
>>535838685>Jesus of Nazarath, King of the Jews, was a Jew!Reminder "King of the Jews" was put on his cross by the Romans to mock the Jews.
>>535838685Why would you assume God needed Mary's genes to create Jesus? He didn't need Joseph's, and he was the Earthly parent of Jesus that was of the line of David (not Mary).The fact of the matter is Jesus was fully divine (God), absent of original sin. The only human since Adam and Eve to have ever been born without it (no papists, Mary like all women was born into original sin). Had Mary been the source of any part of Jesus's genealogy, he would have too been born a sinner.But who am I even kidding, you fundamentally don't believe Jesus was a real person, you believe he in his entirety a work of fiction who never lived. So why bother arguing with Christians at all? Why attempt to use their book (that you don't believe in) to make your arguments when you could never accept the fundamental premise?
>>535839273>Judaism claims Jesus is the Messiah then? God in the flesh?Yes Neo-Judaism (Christianity) certainly did and Paulianism (Neo-Christianity) certainly does as well.
>>535838319"Nazarene" - living under the Jack-Boot of the Jew.
>>535838319Martin Luther was a Roman Catholic
>>535838319Muhamad was a Christian and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>>535838319and every "christian" is toowho is not a jew are the demons called "jews" today
>>535839644i love how christkikes twist themselves into knots trying to explain total horseshit. never stop.
>>535838319It doesn't matter because he gave us a way to escape from this world dominated by the Synaguoge of Satan, those who call themselves Jews but aren't.You're missing the whole picture by obssessing over this.
>>535838319>rabbi yeshua ben yosef>circumcised>fatherlessshepherd of the lost sheep of israel>the meschiach >king of the jews>not a jew
>>535840106It's a completely straightforward argument, albeit nuanced and original. You chose not to refute any of it, so I can assume you think you worship some pagan god, which is hilarious because the individuals you believe are God actually served under Jesus Christ during his Kingdom on Earth.Sorry that you've been misled, all of us have been, even the Christians to some degree. But in the end, Jesus Christ is the Logos. The truth belongs to him.
>>535838970Did Jesus?
>>535839848That Jew whipped his own kind through the temple twice, so I'm cool with being judged by the greatest antisemite in history.
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>>535838319>Jesus was a JewGod God's sonHoly SpiritSome people say the 3 are the same. God. At the very least, Jesus is the son of God. You're claiming that a divine being, a literal God or part of a God (depending on your interpretation), ascribed to an earthly religion?I'm not even religious, but that's fucking insulting.
>>535840326Nice opinion, why did you steal it from the platonists?
>>535840059>who is not a jew are the demons called "jews" todayThey all are jews like Jesus as well. Literally no difference except a diagreement on who is the Messiah.
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>>535840715What are you even arguing? The Romans' local power structure was predicated on the Herod dynasty's provincial kingdom. The Pharisees hated them too. In fact, the Herods sided with the Romans during the First Jewish-Roman War about 30 years later.
>>535840773So you're at least admitting that Jesus wasn't the Messiah because he doesn't fit the description of being a mortal man born from David's genetic line.
>>535838685Doing the things that everyone did in that region, doesn't turn fucking God himself into a follower of a religion made by the humans that God himself created.
The bible never says jesus is jewish. Just csuse the nigga lived in a town that was half jew and went to school in egypt doesnt make him automatically a jew. Also mary was a birgin, even if she was a jew why would jesus be a jew? He is fucking god. The idea jesus is a jew is just retarded for so many reasons.
He was a White European man. Circumcision is a White European tradition. Cope and seethe, kikes.
>>535840971>The idea jesus is a jew is just retarded for so many reasons.It doesn't really matter. Jesus was not at all what the Jews wanted from a Messiah. They thought they were going to get a conqueror that would overthrow the Romans and rule the goyim. What they got was a guy that told them to pay their taxes and stop scamming people. Naturally they murdered him.
>>535840960No. My interpretation is that Jesus is God. And it's ridiculous to claim God himself ascribes to a religion made up by the humans he created.
>>535838319And youre a kike
>>535841134The religion is the only thing that claims Jesus is god, retard. Even Romans at the time thought Christians were superstitious retards, and Jesus and his miracles supposedly existed in living memory for them.
>>535838319jesus was so white that peple today look brown in comparison. you crucifed him because youre niggers.>>535841411jesus is god because his father is god, did you think a human will hatch from a chicken egg?a white family will give birth to a nignog?
Jesus was a jew and he was the evident messiah of judaism.The judaic Old Testament proclaimed prophecies that the messiah would fulfill, mostly the miracles the messiah would perform. Jesus did those miracles and professed himself as the Son of God and the fulfillment of the prophecies.The jewish leadership rejected him because they saw him as a threat to their religious authority in the Roman-governed (and previously Greek governed) semitic lands of the Levant region or "the Judea" region.They called on the Roman authority to crucify him for his threat to the jewish leadership.He was crucified and witnesses and apostles/his disciples who believed in his words and message testified that three days after his death he rose from his tomb. The disciples became Christians, and wrote down their experiences with him and words of his.The jews who failed to believe in him remained jews in a religious regard, not merely an ethnic regard such as his disciples were. Judaism, which should be seen as the obsolete or outdated religion, continued.If he had been accepted by the rabbis and jewish leadership at the time, the jews as you know them today would be Christians and would be acting differently.They would not be the outdated religion that later reformed and modified itself with the writings of the talmud, the zohar, or the kabbalah, all of which writings were collected centuries after Christians started handing out the New Testament, the addition to the Old Testament and basically the final religion of the Levant.Everything would have been differentIslam would not have been created 500 years later by someone in the middle east claiming to be the final prophet. Everything would have been different, as I said, had they accepted him. You would not hate jews as you do now, as they would have behaved according to the Christian, inspiredly different, ways. They continue to exist as they do now with their Old Testament ("torah") and post-Christian books.
>>535840715Judean /= Jews
>>535838319nah that's you kike, Jesus was an extraterrestrial being
>>535840791I didn't. And you'll never prove otherwise.
>>535838319Synagogue of Satan
>>535840715He was indeed called the king of the jews. This was by the Romans, because the jews who rejected him came up with a reason to throw him under the bus by telling the Romans that he proclaimed himself to be a king, presenting him as a threat to Roman authorities who ruled over jews at the time because of the expanse of their empire.Many of you are fighting over the fact that he was a jew. You believe that because of this, he should be rejected and his followers shamed.What I say is that this misses the greater premise, that jews would not be hated if they had only accepted Jesus as their prophecied messiah two thousand years ago and lived in the god-inspired way that their messiah was telling them to live by.They had a chance and they ruined it for themselves, and you are living to see a people who for two thousand years have missed the boat entirely. Because of this fact, they also tried to make themselves to be special, fabricating ideas about "goyim" and "god instilled jewish souls" (this is what they believe from the kabbalah and zohar) for that purpose, and they this have ruined and attempted to ruin everything else for everyone else too. If you ever need to see how foolish a people can be, look no further than them.
>>535842556Kys
>>535838319And the jews hated him, go figure.
Do people just not read Acts and beyond? After Jesus' ascension, Pharisees (whose beliefs were the basis of modern talmudism) chased the apostles all over the Mediterranean trying to turn people against them and get them arrested and/or killed because Jesus' teachings threatened their power. That doesn't sound like Christianity is "worshipping jews" to me.
>>535843037No, he was called king of the Jews by the three kings first
>>535838494Christ was from Galilee, not Judea. Judeans did not like people from Galilee. Anyone who understands rudimentary Christianity and can read a map knows this.
