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So the Guardian published some crap recently: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2026/may/13/women-home-buyers-men-dating
It's mostly feminist drivel, no need to read it.

An author I follow reposted this crap from John Scalzi, who's a fairly big name in sci-fi.

This is how the opposition thinks. These are the people pushing messages in the media.

https://bsky.app/profile/scalzi.com/post/3mlqqnxknec2h

Go figure, apparently it's all men's fault.

Funnily enough, the article actually hit on the real reason that men want to be the homeowner: men don't want to risk the roof over their heads to a woman's whims. And none of these fucking idiots thought of that.

Because, y'know, no woman has ever deceived a man about her true nature in order to manipulate him, right?

Surely, no woman has ever had her head so far up her own ass that she's incapable of admitting that she was wrong, riiiiight?

Most assuredly, no woman has ever combined one or both of those points with other nasty personality problems like hoarding, or fits of rage, or cheating, or cluster-B personality disorders, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

(Before some tiresome feminist comes in here to tell me "men do that too," yeah, I know. But we do that shit a lot less than women do.)

I had an abusive mother, as you may be able to tell. I would never want to let the woman own the home, not even jointly.
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>>535843546
Are men done?
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Funnily enough, Scalzi is apparently spineless, and possibly cucked.
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Only women should vote and go to war
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The complete lack of self-reflection here would be funny if it weren't so sad.

And no, not a bot, not working for iDrama, not trying to slide anything, just wanted to give you some insight on how our enemies think.
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I know you guys are notoriously stupid but don't you think women want their own home to not be at the whims of a man who can replace her? Like how do you look in the mirror everyday and decide against suicide. It is imperative that you realize you're useless and a burden.
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>>535843546
Post ww2 society is built out of rationalizing everything; turns people into lab rats and the world into a well organized graveyard.
You can't just do everything a posteriori, describing it and creating laws: you have to do things a priori, but that implies morality which implies God, which modern rationalists reject
because their deeds are evil and they will never come to the end of themselves
so the winepress is coming
Dogma is the mechanism of reprobation; replacing the damaged Adamic spirit God created us with, with synthetic dogma from ideology or fake religious nuts is an act of spiritual genocide, with its origin in memetic psychological technology.
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>>535843691
>men failing at school, work and life

People are so pathetically cucked that they actually think school and work = life. Yeah bro im totally failing at being a human because im not making your gdp go up lol, lmao
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I gave my wife a house. She gave me 4 beautiful children then signed the house back over to me. I dunno, marriage is great to a good woman. Get good at picking women.
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>>535843546
i dont like that they use the term "dude" with animosity
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>>535844002
> t. tard.
Welcome to the family court system.
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>>535843546
>troll
This word has been used so fucking much to describe people who are literally not trolls
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>>535843875
you should innately understand all of this by 25yo or so
none of it is surprising or interesting
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>>535843691
>Oy Vey 50% of the population have realised our schemes!!!
>it's another shoah!!! Quick, upload the regoy "based and tradpill" program so they will return to the plantation
>ITS NOT WORKING REEEE THEY WONT WORK

sorry Chaim, never again. I'm ganna go steal some food from the dumpster later and hang out with my internet friends, later ;)
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>>535844113
>>535844902
>Refusing to provide for yourself to own da JOOOOOOZ
It's too /pol/pilled...
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They have these nice houses with nothing inside them besides a cat or dog. Its actually very sad. Like living in a museum.
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>>535845029
>provide for yourself by slaving away for shekelstein so he can buy another yacht
yawn
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I worship women. My dream is being a doormat for one. A proper househusbando, dedicating his life to satisfy her every whim.
If she needs sexual satisfaction, nay, emotional one from other men too? That's fine by me.
I just want to be appreciated.
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>>535843546
I mean why the fuck would you be upset if a woman owns a house lmao, that really is top tier insecurity.
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>>535845269
Today's woman is made for you.
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>>535843546
I absolutely hate feminist men enough. I hate them more than I hate the feminists. Weak, ugly, spineless little men who'd rather be a footrest than a partner, who resents stronger men for having the masculinity he lacks.
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>>535845125
Bro single women hop dicks like crazy, no woman is the lonely spinster type you want them to be, they're getting drunk and railed
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Throughout the history of our species women were oppressed. Now it's our turn I guess, that's how I see it. Being a white male in the west for the last 3 decades must be what it was like to get raped whenever and it was cool.
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>>535843693
That cat is the only pussy this dork is getting close to for most of the year, I bet.
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>>535845194
>too smart to work for Jews
>somehow not smart enough to earn a living without Jewish benefactors

Whose fault is that?
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>>535845274
No one's upset.
Foids think men are upset because they can't stop thinking about men 24/7
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>>535843693
>>535843875

Kek, all this soigoi advice is a recipe for getting cheated on at a minimum
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>>535843546
Not fagots not wrong, there's nothing wrong with dating or marrying a woman who makes enough money to support both of you and yeah she should want you for you not what you have
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>>535845333
you are the only one complaining
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>>535845336
>they can't stop thinking about men 24/7
literally a thread whining about women lol
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>>535843693
>I wouldn't obey me either
kek what a pathetic faggot. I hope he gets cheated on and ropes, but the thing about men like this is they have no sense of rock bottom and will end up going trans and mutilating themselves and taking it up the ass before eventually overdosing and getting strangled by some Mexican crackhead.
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>>535845375
you have to be under 20 or so to be this naive
she's going to resent, shit test, and hen peck you into oblivion
but hey go ahead and play the game if you want no one will stop you
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>>535843546
>Cat-owning soiboi pic
Nice
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>>535844113
Okay, so you’re not working, you’re not educating yourself, you’re not supporting a family, you’re not doing public service, you’re not doing religious service… what exactly does your life consist of other than posting, scrolling, consooming, and gaming?
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>>535845490
notice how you are so interested in his life but no one is asking about yours
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>>535843546
Not an argument thou'
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>>535843546

Awesome, so society will get better now that you blamed men right?

I'll wait.
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>>535845375
>she should
Who told you this? One you're correct, in a perfect world a woman would like you for you, but we don't live in a perfect world and a man's assets reflect status and desirability. Secondly, the movie or TV show or book or woman who told you that women don't care about that other stuff was lying to you. Unless you're tall, handsome, have a huge dick and fuck like a horse, you can't be a homeless bum who lives in his Dodge Ram pickup truck.
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>>535845269
You’re definitely white. This is a white mental disease. This same simp behaviour that is everyday shared on here “step on me mommy. I want a woman to spit on me” etc is the microcosm of modern society.

And no, no woman likes simp losers like you, they cheat on you. You’re a pet, a gopher, a male maid.

>>535845274
An aside, females owning homes has a strong correlation to civilisational collapse. Because part of what keeps a man and woman together is the fact a woman used to need a man to have a house. When they own the houses you only need to look at the matriarchal tribes around the world/historically, to see the recurring partner of no men in the houses, very few kids, although plenty of partners. Sparta killed itself like this.
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>>535843546
The feminization of western men is among the greatest tragedies of all time.
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meanwhile women usually can't feel any attraction to a man who makes less money than she does. men are right to feel insecure about this.
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>>535845725
>recurring pattern*
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>>535845725
All I want is being a pet, a gopher, a maid.
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>CAMILLE PAGLIA: Good evening. If men are obsolete, then women will soon be extinct, unless we rush down that ominous brave-new-world path where females will clone themselves by parthenogenesis, as Komodo dragons, hammerhead sharks, and pit vipers famously do. A peevish, grudging rancour against men has been one of the most unpalatable and unjust features of second- and third-wave feminism. Men’s faults, failings, and foibles have been seized on and magnified into gruesome bills of indictment. Ideologue professors at our leading universities indoctrinate impressionable undergraduates with perilously fact-free theories alleging that gender is an arbitrary, oppressive fiction with no basis in biology.
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>>535843546
it's funny how you can tell it's some gay jewish shit just by the image
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>>535843546
more like
>oh great now women come with student loans and a fucking mortgage that she's expecting you to pay for..
Yeah i'ma stay away from that.
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>>535843693
>31%
I wonder if the "Yikes!" would change to some other expression if it was found that those were mostly brown people and 5% included the troll answers and boys larping evil christian males.
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>>535843875
>just become a cuck who does this this and this and is emotionally vulnerable
Okay you can materialize this kind of man in front of women and they would find them 0% sexually attractive.
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>>535843546
Kek the basedmaster doesn't realize that her house is stolen from men's labor. Women still need men, its just that we're now forced to provide without getting anything in return.
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>>535845783
leftoids expect sub 8/10 men to willingly become cucks, go through endless humilitation ritual to wife up some abusive bossgirl cunt and accept chad/tyrone as rightful bull, also be thankful for this great opportunity. They're completely out of touch with reality desu
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>>535844002
>just be a complete cuckold with zero authority in every aspect of life bro

And you are notoriously stupid if you think women want a man that is weak and passive enough to accept that.
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>>535845837
It'll be enjoyable when your life is ruined and you don't even get a cunt woman around to fulfill your retard fantasies.
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>>535843546
Women are attracted to status.
All of this shit is actually femal on female fertility suppression.
They know other women (their competition) don't want to reproduce with lower status men so they advocate for women owning houses and not having any children. This means their child will have fewer people to compete with.
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>>535846419
Yeah women aren't really (surprise) effective at communicating this concept. They want their cake and to eat it too. They want Chad to to be both masculine and successful but also subservient to them. Chad is Chad because he's the opposite of that.
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>>535846535
they think if they keep shaming it will eventually work out
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>>535846734
That is just stupid enough to make sense. Women have become so insanely jealous and petty that they are creating extinction traps for each other.
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>>535843546
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>>535843546
>I had an abusive mother, as you may be able to tell.
Maybe you are better off in the company of men. It seems this kind of abuse breaks a man beyond the point where he should be tasked with caring for a family. Most people I know had abusive mothers. At some point, you do have to hold the men who simp and have children with insane women responsible. If you held yourself to higher standards you would have better women to choose from.
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>>535845843
Gender is not biology. This is elementary but somehow still debated.

I can put on heels and a dress, but never shed my Y chromosome or give birth.

Idiots
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>>535843546
If you can't leave from any situation whatsoever like the nigger who goes for a pack of smokes you are no man
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>>535846934
>you would have better women to choose from

But you don't. Western society doesn't hold women accountable. So they just keep degenerating into a fatter and older and angrier form.
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>>535846806
No this is genuinely the main organising drive that explains the state of the west.
- homo acceptance
- trannyism
- blue hair and tattoos
- celebrities adopting africans instead of having their own kids
- praising high body counts
- celebrating abortions
- strong career women
- body positivity
- even making videogame characters ugly
All of this is women pushing other women into being a less appealing wife, wasting their fertile years on a carreer, or straight up making them infertile.
This one drive, which shows up in multiple studies, explains it all and none of it happens in societies where women don't have political power.
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What if I build a home out of women and pay for it with misogyny? What now?
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>>535847034
>Gender is not biology.
Gender is just a descriptive extension of human sexual dimorphism, anon.

>I can put on heels and a dress
That wouldn't make you a woman.

>Idiots
Yeah? Well, tu quoque.
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>>535847117
All I see is people my age being completely fucked in the head because their parents were a midwit man and and mentally ill woman who he allowed to abuse their children because it was the only access to sex he had.
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>>535843546
didn't he win a hugo award for a book about how much he wants to fuck his cat or something?
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>>535844002
>but don't you think women want their own home to not be at the whims of a man
Correct, that's the entire problem. If they're not at our whims they're at their own whims, and they're less responsible than we are. Marriages are more resilient when women are reliant on the men and can't easily evacuate the relationship. Traditionally that meant not letting them out of the marriage contract easily and, when they did get out, not rewarding them with their ex-husband's money.

Women who don't want to be committed to and reliant on a man are not ready to be married, period. I know women are allergic to accountability but this is the one big spot where they have to be accountable; and accountable means being stuck with a sub-optimal choice, if one was made.
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>>535843546
>John Scalzi

I remember used to destroy this faggot regularly back in the day.
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>>535843546
Anglos did this
They empowered women
They created this gyno hell we all live in.

Aristotle was right about women
Anglos have spent 1000+ years coping about it and trying to build societies that prove him wrong

They can't do it
Its impossible.
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>>535843693
I wanted to give Scalzi the benefit of the doubt for his self-insert MC in Old Man's War calling everyone else an apparatchik despite being a boomer slave to authority, especially after Ghost Brigades which pretty much call John and the other earthboomers retards but after seeing his IRL interactions it must just be an accident.

Why is every writer so fucking cucked? I still enjoy Stephen King books post-car crash but reading his twitter and he's somehow got the most low IQ contrarian takes like saying the Epstein Files are fake because Trump initially intended to release them.
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>>535843546
Both OP and his twitter idol are cucks. But not being whiney about it is part of the way there. If I had a bitch who made more money than me, I wouldn't be worried about what I bring to the table. We'd be combining that shit so I get my slice.
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>>535846738
Wrong. Women just want to enact their dual mating strategy, but have no socially acceptable way to actually say it or do it. They want a dominant, physically attractive, anti social, dark triad man to impregnate them when they're ovulating. And they want an overly socialized, domesticated, high achieving man to take care of them and their bastard spawn when they're not horny/ovulating. Women DO actually want the emotionally vulnerable soi boi numale faggot in a relationship, they just don't want that relationship to be sexual.
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>>535843546
legalize and heavily regulate prostitution worldwide
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>>535847489
>We'd be combining that shit so I get my slice.
It seems like the happiest couples each have their own money and don't even necessarily live together.
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>>535843693
Someone should post gossert and scalzi’s addresses
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>>535843546
Okay, but it's your house and I'm not doing unpaid house labor.
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>>535844002
Women will always win the house in a divorce, retard.
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>>535844002
Women could just pick men that would be willing to do the traditional masculine roles like provide them financial and physical security in exchange for them to do the traditional feminine roles like provide support and companionship, but that doesn't get the pussy wet like fucking Janiquous the drug dealer, so I guess they can lie in their bed. I know picking good men and being feminine is tough for the empowered, modern woman, but I'm confident they can figure it out!
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>>535845490
>you’re
>you’re
>you’re
>you’re
>you’re
Faggot freak giveaway on the same level as “dudes.” You can just picture this seething freak releasing spittle as it hammers away accusations pretending to be argument of something or another.

BOLO
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>>535845269
>>535845295
Incorrect. Women may be out there taking as many high-paying career jobs as they can lay their hands on, but they still want their husband to be even more successful than they are. They don't want househusbands.
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>>535843546
I'm not your wallet
I'm not your emotional bandaid
I'm not your emotional punching bag
I'm not your handyman
I'm not your food delivery service nor your private chef
I'm not your jester

these are privileges given out of love.
if you're not contributing then you don't love me.
if you demand these things then you won't get them.

I think it's past time to take away all of women's rights-- which we men gave to them and upheld and defended with our blood in the first place
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>>535847828
They mean they want their own house in the first place. You guys can't imagine being with a woman that actually is a functioning adult and not a mental midget that depends on your pittance. Then you wonder why children from these households fail to launch.
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>>535845719
>One you're correct, in a perfect world a woman would like you for you, but we don't live in a perfect world and a man's assets reflect status and desirability.
This is a fundamental difference in male/female views on male success. Men remember not being successful before they're successful, so to men, who "we" are is something that is independent of success or lack of success, since the success is not consistent across the experience of not being, becoming and then being. Who we "are" seems obviously different from the success we have.

But women generally don't experience the pre-success phase as much or, if they do, it's with the expectation that the pre-success phase will terminate in success. So to women, your assets, your status, etc, aren't separate from you - they ARE you. Your assets are your character or at the very least your assets are the evidence of your character. They don't see a distinction.
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>>535845843
>pic
> a bunch of holes yapping
who the fuck would even watch this?
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>>535843875
Be emotionl vulnarable, so that I can shit talk you behind your back and you now have zero chance of pussy.
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>it's another episode of "surely fifty years of feminist theory trumps 800,000 years of biology if it's delivered patronizingly enough"
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>>535847493
this is easily resolvable with open relationships and cheating, two things that are increasingly common year by year
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>>535844342
>Just pan for gold in the sewer
Anon if MOST men don't have a good chance of marrying a virgin and having three kids and a house of their own, it literally doesn't matter what strategies are successful on the margins.

It's not a demand, it's not a negotiation, it's reality. You cannot keep a society alive off of these odds.
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>>535848626
This is not acceptable to men.
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>>535847195
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>>535843546
>men don't want to risk the roof over their heads to a woman's whims
This. The wife kicked me out for a couple months over the ICE shootings in Minneapolis.
My offense? I suggested that carrying a gun when deliberately interfering with police business is a good way to get shot.
That apparently makes me a racist and bootlicker.
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>>535845490
I thought women who decide againat having children were EMPOWERED? Are you saying men can't make that decision?
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>>535848999
>The wife kicked me out for a couple months

Please tell me you're just making up a "my wife's son" meme.
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>>535848741
then Men are the real problem
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>>535848999
lol
i think she just fell out of love with you, see's another man she is attracted to more, probably at work, and wants a way of dumping you where you're the bad guy. if you were still chad enough for her then she wouldn't be so upset about your obvious common sense factual opinion. but you probably accidentally showed a normal healthy human emotion in her vicinity, which she obviously can't tolerate because she dreams of being with a totally psychopathic monster, as all women do.
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>>535843693
>Unfuckable dorks
Who exactly do science fiction writers think buys their product?
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Why not just start rape bitches? Fuck with this whole song and dance, just put a blade on her throat and fuck her brains out.
She'll orgasm and she will never forget it. Women going through horrifying rape and humiliation makes me so diamonds, bros
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>>535843546
I'll be moving in with my gf later this year, since I've always been a rentfag and her mom bought her a property for her to live in. How fucked am I?
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>>535843546
Nothing funnier than the oofy-doofy betabux husband who thinks his wife that has sex with him once a year because she isn't actually attracted to him is with him because he's so quirky and funny.
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>>535843546
>>535843691
>>535844002
>making this big of a fuss over women
NGMI. There are zero benefits to being in a relationship with a woman nowadays. All the positive stuff lies in being single.
>no nagging
>no heartbreak
>no STDs
>total freedom
>saving money
>no random dates
>have your own schedule
>no "tests"
You can’t prove me wrong. Have some self-respect, anons.
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>>535843546
remember these sentiments when feminism collapses the population of every country and everything becomes uninhabitable
All women deserve to be raped and killed by the bad boy serial killers they lust for.
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>>535849278
Kek
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I went out with a girl that was kind of rich and had everything. I didn't see what the point of me would be. Somehow she still wanted to cook for me and listen to me but it felt like it would all just be a performance.
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>>535846738
>>535847493
The dual signaling or dual mating strategy is the key. Every now and then someone is honest like there are articles where women openly say they can't get wet for anyone else but criminals, someone else says they don't fuck you if you are a millionaire. That's progress, they are being honest.

Most mainstream discussion about this is the opposite of that so if the standards or wishes of men and women get too much light, it's usually the feminists who start to scream like wounded animals in a corner to stop the discussion. They realize that if either 1) their dual mating is exposed or 2) men get to openly talk they don't like too much fat or too big body count etc, then their leverage is reduced. Not to mention talking about anything more seriously like how families are formed, not just dating, but dating often comes before family can happen.

So the mainstream discussion has to be based on people pretending to be stupid or like they were born yesterday. The furthest the discussion has gotten is around the lines of "well, it seems relationships are shorter nowadays so it's not enough for people to start trying a baby". I mean that's one step towards discussing "maybe short relationships are not that good".
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It’s funny because women hate “male feminists” way more than they hate openly sexist men. Simping is a much bigger ick for them than you think. When a male feminist defending m’ladies honor, just know she’s thinking about fucking the other guy.
Also the majority of western men worship pussy and being one of the few that doesn’t is a chore, pic unrelated
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>>535843546
why the fuck are you on bluesky and know the guy who wrote redshirts
>>535844002
who gives a shit, holes should have all their property confiscated
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Reddit. Op is a redditor

Whatsa matter, OP? Afraid reddit won't be receptive?
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>>535849442
I had a similar experience. Bitch lived in a literal penthouse apartment and was some kind of human rights lawyer. This was pre me understanding that human rights lawyers are one of the fundamental issues with the legal system, but I just remember thinking this woman seemed vastly overcompensated for what she did.
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>>535843546
I would be 100% content to have a big tittied woman, who looks like my mother mind you, who bought a house and then married me just to be a stay ay home husband. I would garden and raise animals all day.
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>>535849600
So basically we destroy our civilization because we let women drive. Yippee.
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>>535849768
Women will claim that men are "intimidated" by women that outearn you while using that fact to insult you as soon as you have any disagreement and letting her friends make fun of you constantly about it without saying anything.
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>>535843546
I don't understand why that tweet is a problem. If you flip the genders, why would you as a man want a woman if you have a job and house? So she can cook, clean and raise kids? Then why can't you just do that while she works and pays for the house?
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>>535849867
I know a stay at home dad and it's not the men that have a problem with it. The neighborhood women fucking SEETHE when they see him.
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>>535843546
>Women complain about rich chad don't marry with me
>But blame all ugly poor men
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>>535843546
>men don't want to risk the roof over their heads to a woman's whims
And women do?
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>>535848685
You're not wrong.
My strategy is not replicable at scale - there aren't enough Latvian women to go around.
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>>535843546
I dont get how feminist men exist
Every time I’m around a bunch of chicks it kinda instinctively makes me want to not be like them at all
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>>535850174
Just a bunch of performative cucks and soibois hoping they'll get a crumb of pussy.
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>>535847390
>Marriages are more resilient when women are reliant on the men and can't easily evacuate the relationship
Anon, why would any self-respecting individual agree to such an arrangement? So you want the state to force women to be your slave essentially. Is it really so hard to just interact with them as an equal? Like you instead share the house with your male best friend, you wouldn't need to resort to this kind of manipulation. If you don't trust modern women enough to live like that, then just accept being alone for the rest of your life.
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>>535847493
god damn female nature and logic pisses me off. women are absolutely insufferable man baka. You just can't fucking win.
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>>535850004
feelings don't care about facts
humans aren't robots
we're driven by instinct more than we like to admit, yourself included, and instinctually women are generally not attracted to men being dependent on them while men are attracted to taking the provider role. its just nature.
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>>535850475
Fuck off hole
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>>535849940
I wouldn't women have taken the wheel but we can say the people in charge gave them the wheel or something. The jew book had the story (which was probably already in every other civilization ever in some form before that) where the snake didn't try getting the man to eat the apple first. It got the woman to eat it and then the man probably thought he won't get pussy if he didn't eat it too or objected.
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>>535843691
Failing? no, because here is the thing about men, and its something that women and afeminin men dont understand.

The vast majority of men are very very SIMPLE creatures and are very content with very simple things.
For example, a man can live his entire life, happy and content, with a condo, a computer to play some simple video games on, maybe a few hobbies and thats it, as long as the bills are paid, the belly is full, the average man will not push further because there is really no need to.

Why is that? Becasue the only reason to push further beyond your own happiness is to impress others, IE attract a partner. Problem is, majority of women fucking SUCK and the system is 100% rigged in their favor so, why fucking bother. On top of that pussy is given out like a free commodity at this point, so again, a man has ZERO reason to lock a woman down when he can ride her wild, and then upgrade to a newer model.

Men can do this until the day they fucking die, and be happy.
Women hit 40 and have panic attacks when they realize the yare a single mother, their looks are fading if not gone, and sure they got a great job, a house, and all that, but realize then at 40, men dont give a shit about the THINGS you have, men only get THINGS because women like THINGS, and unless said 40 year old boss girl is trying to attract a woman, those things mean nothing to men.

Men have not failed, men are not done. Men are just realizing the game that had been played for the last 2000 years (Work to get things that attract women because you need to do that to get pussy) is finally at an end, and women were the ones that killed it. Men are putting in the effort required to get pussy, which is very low.

But hey, girl boss harder ladies.
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Imagine wasting a thread for this nonsense
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>>535850354
>So you want the state to force women to be your slave essentially

If the state can force men into a draft to die in a pointless war, then the state can enforce women to get married and bear men's children. Simple as, simp.
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>>535850568
i'm an a-hole not a hole
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I wish I got together at a young age, to grow and live together early on, to buy a house together.
No woman wants to "take me in" even when I am perfectly fine with her earning more and owning a place, they don't want to partner up with me at all except maybe for a handful of days and they discard me. I never feel fully accepted.

I'm tired bros...
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>>535850758
A hole worshiper then?
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>>535845490
Yeah man true. It reminds me of a famous speech napoleon gave.
"If you don't fight for me you're and INCEL!! A LITTLE BABY STILL LIVING AT HOME WITH MOMMY WHO WILL NEVER EVER EVER HAVE SEX"
This is your actual belief system by the way, all joking aside it's completely ridiculous. The idea men can attract women by being responsible when the state has replaced the father is laughable. No dad on earth can live up to the government in terms of being a provider; therefore within the frame of being a provider you will always appear beta in westernized countries.
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>>535844526
Pro tip for when you’re arguing with a woman, they HATE being referred to as dude, bro or man… when you talk to them in the same way you talk to your homies it shatters their ego
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>>535850354
shut the fuck up faggot, unlike you onions boy cuck faggot leftists, we don't argue or try to alter nature's already perfect design. The entire world is going to shit because leftists are fucking retarded and somehow have way too much influence on everything in society. Empowering women and letting them vote was a mistake. Go back faggot.
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>>535850822
no you're just really bad at reading comprehension and thought i said something different to what i actually said
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>>535844002
>Like how do you look in the mirror everyday and decide against suicide.
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>>535850992
>they HATE being referred to as dude, bro or man
Probably. I do call women faggot or bro to lightly degrade them.
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>>535844002
>Like how do you look in the mirror everyday and decide against suicide.
It has taken a lot of repetition.
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I thought all these strong and independant women didn't need no man?
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>>535848999
I bet you fell for the tradcon lie that women adopt the politics of their husband
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>>535843546
I stopped paying attention to the drivel from these retards.
Most of them aren't getting any more pussy than me either, and usually are completely cucked & leashed by whatever woman keeps them as a slave on top of that.
Anyone who tries to give me "advice" on how to live my life without being a close friend of mine can fuck off right away, no need to ever talk to me again.
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>>535845619
got him there
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>>535847493
It's from not disciplining girls.
What is the difference between what you just described and mondego's behavior in the count of monte cristo? None.
This behavior has always been understood to be parasitic decadence. You need cradle to grave brainwashing from glowing screens to think otherwise.
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>>535851088
it's not a lie faggot. I have examples in my own extended family, cousins whose wives have the same politics as their husband and they don't question it, it helps that they aren't cunt raging feminists who thankfully were raised in conservative religious homes and didn't whore themselves out before getting married. You just got to find the right families that didn't raise their daughters to become modern women whores.
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>>535843546
His picture says it all.Also a braindead retard. The data is clear: If women out earn the man, they leave 90 percent of the time.
>"Uhhh yea chuddy why don't you just shut the fuck up and wait around to be cheated on and or left? Ever think of that?"
lol. lmao even.
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Grim.
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>>535851358
>You just got to find the right families that didn't raise their daughters to become modern women whores.

It's unironically easier to become a multi-millionaire trading stock options than it is to find whatever Disney fairy tale bullshit this is that you just typed out.
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>>535843546
I have something valuable to add to this conversation, but why bother, since nobody will read it, anyway.
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>>535844002
Cool I feel the exact same way about you. Have fun taking care of yourself. I am having a blast taking care of myself.
I don't really believe you though; my female relatives used to give me this bullshit all the time. Then one day I brought home a thin latin girl. They melted down. I started thinking back and came to the conclusion that 90% of the time someone hurt me for no reason it was a white woman.
This is because western white women are spoiled overprivileged parasites. Controlling men like this is about getting a rush of dopamine, much like kiddy diddling was for epstein and his clients.
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>>535843546
>Maybe be cool and fun to be around
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>>535851555
finding women that weren't raised within modern western framework that teaches them to be whores is not a fairy tale. Sure it might be rare but they are out there if you know where to look.
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>>535851526
>i am 100% ok with this situation
>that's why i'm posting about it
>please validate me
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>>535851629
Many American women are filled with a self-righteous indignity over things that never happened to them.
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>>535847493
>but have no socially acceptable way to actually say it or do it
because it is 100% malicious parasitism, of course there's no socially acceptable way to say shit like that, kek
it's as if a guy told women he'd prefer to have them as wife, but only to lock them in the basement and let them out twice a week to clean the house while he fucks highschool girls all day long instead.
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>>535848224
>You guys can't imagine being with a woman that actually is a functioning adult and not a mental midget that depends on your pittance.
we can only imagine it (e.g. anime) because it doesn't exist in reality
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>>535843546
>single women report a greater willingness to make financial sacrifices to prioritize their homebuying goals: 41% reported spending less on entertainment, vacations, clothing and other non-essential goods, compared with 31% of single men.

yea i work in the service industry and thats a big fat lie
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>>535851801
What's wrong with that?
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>>535849414
based ritualposter
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>>535851906
well its self reported, they do constantly lie on top of being unable to comprehend large numbers
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>>535843693
>>535843546
Why are these bizarre conversations always do vague and never explain who exsctly they’re talking about or what? Who is the unfuckable dork? What did he tell you? Why did he say it to you?
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>>535847493
And also they don’t want that soiboi anywhere near in sight for most of the time. Women despise having to take care of men in anyway. A lot of you still have much to learn. In the end the foid wants to be alone and utterly free to use, dispose and trade men at the flick of a wrist. And besides sex and being her manservant they rather society with just women. Basically you are to exist on,y in the periphery and in the designated lek spots like the clubs.
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>>535843546
Ok, but where is the guy in OPs pic wrong?
If she has a house already,just dick her down regularly and enjoy the NEETing.
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>>535844002
See, this is what I mean. What the FUCK are you talking about? Like literally what the fuck? You’re “useless and a burden” if you want to move in with your girlfriend? Why is there no context to these posts
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>>535845843
Rosin dowd should just be shot in the head
I have no clue who thinks it's a good idea for 'free speech' to allow these people to even voice these thoughts when it's so obvious they can only exist because of those society and would be exterminated in all others.
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>>535852076
>Ok, but where is the guy in OPs pic wrong?
hypergamy.
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>>535844002
you don't want to live with a woman in a house she owns. it doesn't matter what her motivation for getting one was and if it's understandable or not - women are not providers and they will start to really hate you if they find themselves on the wrong side of the deal.
you will be reminded day in day out that this is her house, that she merely tolerates you here, that she can have you removed if you do not immediately get up and do the thing she told you to do, and so on and so forth.

anyone who has dealt with women before and actually paid attention to their behavior should understand that women only behave tolerably when they are the overwhelming beneficiaries of the deal, while simultaneously being at risk of losing that deal if they don't behave.
they simply lack the self-control to keep their emotions in check otherwise and will start circling the drain.
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>>535851358
>>535851758
>It happens like 5 percent of the time, so we're totally not lying and actively fooling men into acting against their best interests. Also please ignore that women raised by conservative parents constantly end up as many hating feminists.
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>>535843546
What the fuck is with jamniggers posting bluesky links all of a sudden?
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>>535848224
>woman that is an actual adult
This doesn’t exist. And if women have the homes (that men build) they still don’t provide for men, and that’s why female property acquisition is so closely correlated to societal collapse.

>>535848626
There will not be enough births. You’ll need slaves and immigrants to run the society and will very easily be walked over by a society with an actual population and run by men instead of old man-hating (natural female state) foids.
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>>535852158
My neighbour has been neeting on his gfs dime for years , seems to go just fine.
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>>535850726
Genuinely unhinged comparison. You're too schizo to be with a woman my friend.

>>535850354
>nature's already perfect design
Nothing about this is nature driven. Marriage and nuclear families are human concepts. If you want a woman to accept this arrangement, you're going to need to do better than an appeal to nature/tradition argument.
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>>535852322
>There will not be enough births.

Births for what purpose exactly? The boomers will die off eventually, so the current massive imbalance between older and younger generations is only a temporary problem.
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>>535850581
absolute truth nuke
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>>535852322
>This doesn’t exist.
There are women working on Wall Street. You are probably sub 90 iq talking about how it's impossible for women to be more retarded than you. I really wish it were possible to show you how pathetic you are because your consistent denial about it is a massive nuisance.
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>>535843546
Nice reddit spacing.
We don't have men any more. Most of those who claim to be so are immature boys in a man's body.
They are basically forcing the women to become lesbians, but thankfully the lessons from the civilizational era that taught them to hate each other is impossible to erase overnight.
But they are not reproducing any more. Part of the problem is forcing the women to be rational. As a matter of fact, human population requires for women to be irrational, to be literally dumber than animals, because animals who experience pain once, make sure to never do it again. Women who gave birth, are willing to go through the very painful process again. I know it gives you a quiter marital life, but them being the way they are is the key to humanities survival!
Men can force this upon them, boys can't. Do they see you as a man, or as a boy?
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>>535852497
Typical foid, as soon as someone brings up the topic of men being drafted into war by the state they can never come up with a proper rebuttal. You literally should not even be allowed to vote.
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>>535852304
the libshits are fleeing X because they cannot tolerate getting dunked on anymore, so shitposters need to scrap their bait from bluesky now
it's basically just the new tumblr
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>>535844002
Your scenario is about as common as a level 5 hurricane.
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>>535850581
>Men can do this until the day they fucking die, and be happy.
the point women will never grasp probably.
they can look at their social circle, at all the divorced women desperately trying to find a new guy while all the divorced men just chill and enjoy their new-found peace and quiet, and yet still conclude that the guy will break down into tears and regret every second of his life any moment now, while the women are totally independent
kek
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>>535852862
There's nothing to rebute here. Comparing "men forced by the government to MAYBE go to war" vs "the government forcing every woman in the country to be the slave of some random incel man" aren't the same thing. You can just move to some Muslim hellhole in the Middle East if you want this.
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>>535843546
Scalzi is one of the worst authors I have ever had the misfortune to read. Just absolutely dogshit tier and his fanbase are the dumbest ugliest people I've come across too. Literally loser literature. Reading Old Man's war was the only time I've ever thrown away a book I bought.
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>>535845310
>Throughout the history of our species women were oppressed
No lol. Women held immense informal power throughout history. I do not accept your Handmaid's tale roastie hag jilling material premise.
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>>535852862
women are too cozy with the status quo, of course they'll get aggressively unhinged if you threaten it by pointing out that the state can demand men's death without an issue and has done so for millennia, so why shouldn't it be able to tell women to zip it and do their duty too, kek
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>>535843546
>Be your wife's biggest cheerleader!
Don't forget to prep the bull too faggot
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hey if she wants to support my SAHD lifestyle in her house, I'm all for it. let me raise the kids and cook and maintain the home, all that shit is too important to leave to women anyway
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>>535853037
Its fucking amazing to be quite honest with you.
Like Im almost 35 and people look at me like im broken because i dont own a home, i dont have a fancy car, i dont have a wife, gf, kids or what ever but here is the thing.

I have a condo i own, i play video games, I ride dirt bikes, i play board games with my freinds, and i can do this until the day i die and ill be totally fine with it.

Most of all though, its peaceful, no drama, no problems i have to fix, no arguments i get into, no debt i have to worry about, no inlaws, no remodel projects i dont wanna do, no boring shit in the name of getting pussy.

Women unironically look at this meme and think lol lets make fun of the guys, but fail to realize that its the example of men needing so very little to be happy and content.
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>>535852862
>>535853119
Wouldn't the solution be that you are free to not have any kids but then you are eligible to military service / draft as a woman. Inb4 women bring up some point like 1% of women might not be able to give birth to a healthy child and that somehow means you can't treat 99% of women in this way.
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>>535853119
shut the fuck up faggot soi
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>>535843546
>men don't want to risk the roof over their heads to a woman's whims
Women don't want to risk the roof over their heads to a man's whims either, and they're wise not too
OP really do be here pretending that toxic men don't exist.
They do, of course. Toxic parents and spouses.
They used to be kind of the norm before.
Nowadays, there's luckily a lot of emotionally adjusted men who are not dicks. These are the men that chuds like to mock as 'cucks'.
Sadly, there's still a lot of insecure men who are still annoyed/threatened by having to compete with women, having to not be pricks, etc. Men who are inscure and cannot stand their ego's being shattered.
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>>535853449
>Inb4 women bring up some point like 1% of women might not be able to give birth to a healthy child and that somehow means you can't treat 99% of women in this way.
obviously they will do that. women always try to hide their malicious intentions behind some isolated special case that is entirely unrelated to them and their actions.
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>>535853653
>women always try to hide their malicious intentions behind some isolated special case that is entirely unrelated to them and their actions.
Its the same case with abortion.
>ITS HEALTH CARE
Lady its child murder, no one is saying you cant have health care performed on you if your fetus dies in utero or some other complications.
You cant have an abortion as a form of contraception.
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>>535852506
For a civilisation worth anything? Sure if you want to just exist as a small towns worth of people, with limited brain power, production and if it’s women in charge, likely comparatively primitive.

>>535852731
Yea, they’re comparatively dumb. Just like there are women that could probably lift more than you or beat you up, if you put in the same effort you’re potential would take you further. That’s the idea of male superiority. The anon that said the male’s objective is to serve women is not wrong, but like the king isn’t necessarily smarter or a better warrior than the servant, and they are reliant on convincing others it’s worth making/keeping him as king, women are inferior in pretty much every way and incompatible with growing a civilisation if in charge. They are anti-civilisational.
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>>535853449
>you are free to not have any kids but then you are eligible to military service / draft as a woman.
I don't understand why the two are related. This also still introduces a double standard. Men can have children and still be drafted.
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>>535853119
>You can just move to some Muslim hellhole in the Middle East if you want this.

Dumb foids like you are literally voting for the Middle East to come here to the West though. Enjoy Sharia Law in your future, you will lose your "rights" (really privilege's that were simply granted to you by men) one way or another, it's just a matter of time.
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>>535854192
Man cannot be pregnant or breastfeeding, women can and they cannot participate in warfare while doing so. It's a free ticket to leave when things get hot. Just let some Jarhead get you pregnant and you can just get out of deployment. Happens all the time.
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>>535853769
I love how when it comes to abortion its "my body my choice!" but when it comes to the draft and being forced to literally die in a war suddenly "my body my choice" becomes irrelevant when it comes to men.
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>>535845476
The way he behaves maybe he wants to get cheated on and then fuck the guy who cucked him?
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>>535854192
>I don't understand why the two are related

You are literally retarded. Thanks for further proving why you shouldn't be allowed to vote or have equal "rights" to men.
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>>535843546
>If she has her own house, what will she need me for?
A question nobody ever asked
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>>535853653
>>535853769
Yeah it's kind of a blackpill when you first read statistic about abortion in any country and find out that the cases where a 11yo is raped by their uncle and the child is already a retard in womb scan don't make more than 5% or they are like 1% each when you separate the mentioned reasons. Not that you can't do abortions but it still means you killed a child.

>>535854192
If you think hard enough you might realize that the amount of births is not bottlenecked by how many men you have but how many women you have. If you "see no connection", and many people in power seem to agree with you, then you should not be surprised if men decide to dodge draft or military service by any means.
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>>535843691
White non-jewish men are the biggest threat to zionism, therefore they must be demoralized.
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>>535854329
>Just let some Jarhead get you pregnant and you can just get out of deployment.

That's not the fucking point, you sub 80 IQ dumbass. The typical argument that foids make in rebuttal to getting drafted is that women are needed to make children and keep the population and demographics going in the event of a large population loss due to war. But if women are refusing to have children, then why should they not get drafted along with men? Or, as an alternative, be mandated by the State to get pregnant and give birth to the next generation of children to replace the men lost in a draft? Considering the ability to give birth to children is literally the only reason women claim to not have to share the responsibility of getting drafted into war, then they should be mandated to have children if men are mandated to serve and die in war. How about you actually think for one second before you flap your greasy cheeto crust fingers across the keyboard, you fucking idiot.
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>>535853119
>You can just move to some Muslim hellhole in the Middle East if you want this.
The west is becomeing a middle eastern hellhole. Either western women get unliberated or we die as a society and get replaced by people who view women as objects.

We gave women agency over their own lives and you destroyed the western world. You can bitch and moan all your want, but things only end with women re oppressed by the west or the west replaced by cultures that oppress women.
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>>535845725
>Sparta killed itself like this.
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>>535843875
>financially independent

Now ask them how much debt they have hanging over their head. Women love showing off how financially independent they are until you ask them how much debt they've racked up then they get mad that you brought up the subject.
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>>535854587
>Yeah it's kind of a blackpill
Its what shifted my stance on pro choice and pro life.

My current stance on the matter, no abortion if the reason is purely for contraception.
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>>535855008
>Now ask them how much debt they have hanging over their head.
FUcking THIS.
Though thats not just a woman thing, though women are worse at it, but thats everyone.

If you really wanna judge if some one is financially stable just ask them how much debt they have.
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>>535855008
It's all a big grift. Being "financially independent" or "liberated" just doubles GDP, doubles production, cuts labor value in half, doubles housing demand, and destroys the relationship between male and female that's existed for millions of years.

Originally created by Jews to overthrow American colleges, it was adopted by capitalists because more monies. Now even the Jews be dying off and every woman under 40 has a "mental illness".
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>>535844002
Dude if I could find a sexy very hot rich woman who would love me like an insane leftist woman loves the syrian refugee she imported then I would have no problems with marrying her.
If she was a middle-aged single mother but is rich and still good looking and has a hot 18 year old daughter and she would also offer the daughter to me like a few insane leftist women did towards brown and black refugees then I would gladly accept. The possibility of this happening is very slim.
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>>535843546
Go away faggyt you’re annoying now feminsm sucks and so do you
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>>535845296
spot on, look at this ugly fag- he has to be a pathetic simp, how else will he get a woman?
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>>535843546
women and feminist men know men dont give a fuck about what they think or feel and then this infinite bhla bhla bhla for decades
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>>535850354
>Anon, why would any self-respecting individual agree to such an arrangement?
I'm a wageslave personally so you'll find little sympathy from me on this point. Yes, I should have leverage over her, and if she doesn't want me to, I don't want her.
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>>535854746
>Completely misunderstands
>Doesn't know what he's talking about
Oh you're brown. You should have just said that you stupid nigger.
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>>535854809
this
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>>535843546
You should see this as an opportunity to divorce rape women.
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>>535855210
>though women are worse at it

Interestingly women complain about how the women before the women's rights movement couldn't own property (a lie because women owned property) and they couldn't take out loans and what not as a means of men to keep women down. The reason women couldn't take out loans was because men didn't want women being bogged down with financial debt plus be taken advantage of. It was a kind act from men looking out for the wellbeing of women......but women hate them for it. They have been convinced that not being able to be taken advantage of/drowning in debt is a form of "oppression" by men.
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>>535855582
Just admit you're too much of a fucking retard to comprehend anything I said. Go back to doomscrolling TikTok you stupid 15 year old.
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>>535855008
women and immigrants always fall for the jewish debt trap

that's why kikes love them both so much. need debt sponges to make the money printers go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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>>535848987
This
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>>535854212
>Dumb foids
I will never be a woman.

>Enjoy Sharia Law in your future
Well that's great for you then. You just have to wait a few more years and then you'll have your slave wife. You can stop bitching now.

>>535854809
>The west is becomeing a middle eastern hellhole.
But at the same time you agree with Muslims treating women like property. So which is it? Do you want Sharia law and slave wives or not?

>>535854587
>surprised if men decide to dodge draft or military service by any means.
I support draft dodging anyway. But regardless this still seems like a ridiculous comparison. If you're upset that men can be drafted but women aren't, then fine let's draft women too in the name of equal rights. What I don't understand is people using this as justification to turn women into sex slaves.
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>>535843546
>You don't hate feminists and "feminist men" enough
It's not actually possible to hate them enough.
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>>535856034
>What I don't understand is people using this as justification to turn women into sex slaves.

That's because you're an idiot. See here...
>>535854746
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>>535852506
Anon once women's rights gives you a birth rate below "2" you don't get your replacement rate back until the women don't have rights anymore. You never "reach equilibrium" or settle into a stable position. It's not a lack of funds or overpopulation making women not have babies, it's the natural conclusion of giving them rights.

Sorry there isn't a third option.
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>>535843546
>men don’t want housing to be based on women’s whims.
So why should women’s housing be based on men’s?
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>>535856132
>But if women are refusing to have children
Is that what's happening though? The issue seems to be that women are finding compatible or suitable partners, not that they're refusing to face children. Sure there are some choosing to become single cat ladies forever, but you don't know they're going down that path until they're past the age of being drafted anyway.
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>>535843546
>If I have my hand, what do I need a woman for???
I don't know, dude, maybe for washing the dishes, mopping the floors and giving you your heirs instead of doing that all yourself and being a genetic dead-end?
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>>535856034
Yeah you can draft equally but you can allow women to not apply to draft if they have kids. It's a choice.
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>>535856468
Because god forbid we try to have a happy relationship with another person as an equal. If you want a maid service, pay for one. It’ll be cheaper than marrying someone you don’t care about for the same dumb shit.
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Actually I believe I hate them appropriately. I would gladly run practising liberal men over with a steamroller, feet first. Practicisng feminists I would just leave to the musuls, they can put them in a dungeon or something. I wouldn't touch that shit with a ten foot pole myself.
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>>535843546
Feminists who don't think that hard about it ruined Millenials, GenZ and now Alpha.
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>>535843546
>https://bsky.app/profile/scalzi.com/post/3mlqqnxknec2h
bsky - ah, i see we have some progress , dipshits
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>>535856540
Imagine living in 2026 and still dreaming about the equality of the sexes. 1972 called, they want their LSD trip fantasies back.
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>>535856468
women don't do any of that anyway
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>>535843546
It's insane to see how many men worship women.
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>>535847493
>Women DO actually want the emotionally vulnerable soi boi numale faggot in a relationship, they just don't want that relationship to be sexual.

That's what government has been set up for, so they can take the money of the undesirables. The counter solution to that is to not be a wagie.
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>>535856447
Is this your first day on the internet? 45% of women aged 25-44 are expected to be single by 2030. That's a lot of excess women that could be put to use either in a draft, or state mandated births to reboost the population. Or, the third option, should women refuse one or the other, is to completely lose their "right" to vote and participate independently in society as an equal, since at that point they would share in none of the responsibilities of men.

https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy
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>>535843546
>>535843693
What did you think with a pfp like that?
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>>535845310
Women always had all the power lmao. Civilization is literally something Men do FOR Women.
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Feminism causes civilisation to collapse.
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>>535856540
>equal
Relationships with women are for the formation of healthy families with multiple children. This fundamental bond is so basic it underscores literally everything productive men do for society.
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>>535856860
Nothing you're saying contradicted what I said. You're implying that these women are choosing to be single (i.e. women go their own way) as opposed to actively looking for a partner and failing to find a suitable one.
So you have evidence showing that all these women are actively choosing not to be with a man?
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>>535843693
that's no man. that's a wuss
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>>535856860
>state mandated births
Do you even want this? First of all, this would have to apply to all women not just the white ones. Second, what's the process of choosing who they're impregnated by? Third, if these women aren't married to the fathers you're actively choosing to create a bunch of single mothers that would be supported by the state.
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>>535850581
It's true. I like girls but having a girlfriend complicates your life every single time. They always want to go do shit and buy things and take pictures and have events or attend them and after a while it's like fuck, I just wanna sit on my ass for a while sometimes after work. Or maybe even a whole day on the weekend where I don't have to do a fucking thing sometimes
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>>535857477
Choosing and not finding are the same thing. Women demand everything and offer nothing. That is a state you choose to be in
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>>535857477
Ultimately all that matters is that a system either maximizes the number of men who think they have a very good chance of marrying a virgin and having multiple children on their own property, or it minimizes it.

Maximizing that number leads to exponentially better performance economically, militarily, scientifically, morally, and in terms of general health and happiness. Minimizing it leads to inevitable and total annihilation of your civilization.
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>>535857477
Who cares if its because they choose to be single or failed to find a partner. Literally does not matter. The state doesn't care about that when it comes to men either. Share the responsibility of maintaining your country or lose your "equal rights", its just that simple. What part about equal rights= equal responsibility do you not understand?
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>>535857640
Women don't so much "choose", they just sort of expand their behaviors in every direction until physically restrained. Women are not less happy having five kids and no rights than they are having a thousand romantic partners and enough drugs to kill a whale.
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>>535857640
>Choosing and not finding are the same thing.
Now you know that's not true. You could be married right now to some obese non-white woman, but you choose not to.

>>535857694
>maximizes the number of men who
So there's just no consideration for what the women want at all? You want Sharia Law except white. Why not just admit this instead of acting like you're better than Muslims?

>>535857765
>The state doesn't care about that
I assure you that the state does want divorce rates and instances of domestic abuse to be at a minimum.
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>>535843546
Whining about women thread number 900372904750
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>>535857765
Women cannot have equal rights to men, and cannot have equal responsibility to men, because they are fundamentally not men.

It's fun to imagine these scenarios where women are hoist by their own petard being held to the standards of men, but such a scenario is impossible. Any society healthy enough to resist degenerating itself to subsidize the inability of women to compete with men cannot at the same time be so degenerate it forces women out of the home and into competition with men.

Because, and you have to understand this, it requires the force of the state to keep women from their natural state. A man's rights are what his people will take, a woman's rights are what the government will kill you for not providing to a woman.
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>>535857608
I agree, it is complicated. I personally believe women should just be drafted alongside men, it is a much simpler solution to maintain their voting rights. Israel basically already does this anyways, so its not unheard of and has precedent.
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>>535857983
>So there's just no consideration for what the women want at all?
Any philosophy that leads to unilateral suicide is not worth considering. I consider that an axiomatic solid.

>You want Sharia Law except white. Why not just admit this instead of acting like you're better than Muslims?
I do not cede the normal state to Muslims. Everyone on earth handled women this way for all of human history and prehistory, they were not Muslims, it was not "sharia". It's the normal state and the only survivable state.
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>>535857999
Yes, I agree. Really the crux of this whole argument is women should not be allowed to vote if they do not have to register for the draft (eg Selective Service in the States) or share in any of the other responsibilities in maintaining a country that men do. These "equal rights" essentially then are not actually "rights" that women are entitled to, but "privileges" that have been merely generously granted to them by men for the past few decades- which in hindsight is now obviously very clearly a failed experiment at that that needs to be done away with immediately.
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>>535857983
>You could be married right now to some obese non-white woman, but you choose not to.
Thank you for agreeing with me. It's all a choice. For me it was either that or nothing and I chose nothing. Women do the same
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>>535858011
>I personally believe women should just be drafted alongside men, it is a much simpler solution to maintain their voting rights. Israel basically already does this anyways, so its not unheard of and has precedent.
Israels drafting of women has lead to an exponential increase in chronic joint damage among women. All you get by forcing women to march is a lot of women with bad knees. That's right, even your imaginary wonder woman, your Amazon who's just as good at fighting and climbing walls as the men, your one in a million woman who could have produced many happy, ultra-healthy children, doesn't belong in the military. Wonder woman comes back from the military ten years older and with lingering damage to her spine that will never fully recover. Women do not belong in the military, and consequently, do not belong in the voting pool.

My condolences Mr Egalitarian, equality lost.
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>>535843693
>>535843875
Is this twitter or reddit? I can't tell.
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>>535858392
A lot of you aren't even entertaining the idea of dodging the draft and that's precisely why your bloodline should end with you. You'd go fight Israel's wars before fighting to the death to avoid being their pawn. You deserve to be spat on by women and nothing more.
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>>535858392
No shit, sherlock. You're arguing with ghosts. By all means, go ahead and keep wasting your time though.
>>535858260
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>>535858392

Accurate ty
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>>535858573
Based and truthpilled. Not even dying for Israel, but for a gynocentric, misandrist Western country ran by women that hates men, and specifically hates white men. Imagine being forced to sacrifice your life for an entire country and gender that hates and despises you and mocks you at every turn. Truly bloodboiling.
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>>535858392
>chronic joint damage among women
so?
>could have produced many happy, ultra-healthy children
the whole point is that they won't and they evidently aren't.
Women are never going back into the kitchen and these are very easy bullets to bite.
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>>535858727
I don't care what your reasoning is. If you fight for them I hope your balls get blown off by an IED. Obviously most of you don't even have a problem with jews.
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>>535845410
Listen the Jewish nonsense with the goyfied (liberal) women or jewessws and freemasonry got to stop. The glowiefeed thread ain't better.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/mR0SlZhv-Mk?si=S1Zaupr2H8lJLUlM<<<<<
This is how the jew usury gained women into product.
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>>535845297
>getting drunk and railed
Wow, sounds like a recipe to lasting happiness and fulfillment.
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>>535844002
genuinely evil post, reevaluate yourself
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>>535845297
This. The wall is a joke. There may be a fertility wall, but all of the people who think that these women are turning 35/40 and are all of a sudden depressed and lonely, sitting at home on a Friday night have not been outside.
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>>535844002
Together4ever
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>>535859908
There is literally nothing out there that caters to single women in their 40's and up. Any thing to do on a weekend night either caters to older couples who are already partnered up or young singles in their 20's and early 30's.
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>>535843546
Women having houses is haram
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>>535858342
>Thank you for agreeing with me. It's all a choice. For me it was either that or nothing and I chose nothing. Women do the same
Well i still think it's different. Women have standards whereas you just seem to ask hate women in general.
To you, they're tools to birth babies and leave at home. Not someone to love or be genuine friends with
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>>535847493
You’re not wrong. I usually sum it up in a different way when women I know speak about this stuff though such as not being able to find a man. . I say I believe they are being wholly truthful when they say they just want a nice, caring, and loving man. However, I also say they fail to mention that he should be objectively very attractive and a top 15% earner. Those traits have to be met for your personality to even be considered. I also refer to it as the initial half second look up and down “I would fuck him” test you must pass.
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>>535843546
I don't think any man has ever said what that guy said a man said, ever.
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>>535860155
Move to the middle east. Then you won't get drafted. And the rest of us at home won't have to deal with your stupid shit.
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>>535856447
>Is that what's happening though?
Birth rates being below replacement is not a disputable facet of feminist societies. Women aren't doing their job. You can offer me a million excuses for why, but fact remains that they aren't.

If a draft is what they need to come extract my genetic material out of my cock and make Chad sons, then let there be a draft of women.
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>>535860403
I won't get drafted either way, I am diagnosed you fucking retard. Have fun dying for israel.
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>>535860659
So am I, but its people like you who are going to be the reason why the state decides to stop giving a fuck about ASD and send them anyway
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>>535855815
The story of civilization in just 11 seconds.
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>>535843546
Why don't men want it? Uncertainty. Why don't women want it? Same reason.

This is what you get when your society lacks go of any sexual rules except "don't rape". Sexual liberalism kills civilization. Any civilization punished infidelity with slavery, large money sums or death for a reason.
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>>535843546
Is he based or nah?
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>>535860151
Upscale cocktail bars, lounges, rooftops, concerts, markets…the list goes on.
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>>535847493
>>535849600
It can't work though.
If none of the beta types breed then they will fall off in population and become unavailable for cucking and providing.
Even if you say it is epigenetic the precursors will fall off and you will get less and less of it.
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>>535861315
These are for people who are already coupled up, not singles, and certainly not singles in their 40s. You don’t go to these places to meet people anymore, you go to these places with people you already know- it’s been this way since at least COVID, night life in general since then has been dying anyways, people are too broke for this shit now which makes it even harder for single women in their 40s to meet new people.
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>>535860266
Anybody can have standards. Weather or no those standards are reasonable is a different story
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>>535843546
Its weird how they have this insane hatred of "nice guys" yet their dating advice is consistently "uuh just be nice"
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>>535861682
Learn the october man sequence to associate yourself with pleasurable thoughts
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>>535861510
You’re missing a key point with your first take. They meet the people online and then they go there. The organic meet people in public space is all but gone at this point. I live in an affluent area with plenty of single 35+ year old women and I assure you, they are out here still having a good time.

Many people bring up the Christian traditionalism ideals they think these women should have, therefore they cannot be happy. They don’t subscribe to that life and they are fine.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, I’m just saying that if people think they are home alone crying all weekend that couldn’t be further from the truth.
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>>535861275
nah
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>>535845295
They literally despise all that shit.
Thats the kicker, they're set up to be leaders and to be dominant. But they aren't.
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>>535843546
Damn, I'm not cool or funny to be around, guess women can leave me alone now and take joy that they're not shackled to my lame and unfunny ass. So they can stop complaining about being single now, right?
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>>535856771
>>That's what government has been set up for, so they can take the money of the undesirables.

The undesirables are all in the government taking the money from people though
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>>535843691
>solutions that don't come at the expense of women
They don't even disguise the fact that the only purpose to helping men is to help women. If it doesn't do the latter, they don't care.
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>>535845310
Cringe. Stop watching television, you clearly aren’t white enough to tell fiction from reality.
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I think I finally understand what it means to be truly broken. It didn’t happen all at once—it was a slow, painful process. But the final straw? Pan Piano’s net worth.

I work 12-hour shifts, come home to my fat bitch of a girlfriend who wasn’t always like this. She used to be normal, decent even, but once she hit 20, she started ballooning like every other American woman. First, it was little things—more fast food, less effort, more nagging. Then, before I even realized what was happening, she was just there, a miserable, entitled blob, treating me like some human ATM while complaining about everything.

Still, I kept my head down. I worked. I saved. I told myself it would get better. Then I made the mistake of looking up Pan Piano’s net worth.

Three million dollars. In just three years. All because she plays piano while wearing stupid, sexy cosplay outfits. That’s it. That’s all it took. Meanwhile, I’ve spent years breaking my back for less than nothing—just enough to keep myself alive in a world that doesn’t care. No talent, no innovation, no hard work, just sex appeal and a piano and she’s set for life.

I haven’t been to work in a week. Didn’t even quit. Just stopped showing up. What’s the point? There is none. There never was. I see now that my entire existence is just a joke played at my expense. I can’t even bring myself to be angry anymore. Just empty.

I used to think there was some fairness in the world. That hard work meant something. That if I suffered enough, things would eventually even out. But no. Life is just one long humiliation.
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>>535861510
Someone hand me a tiny violin. If a 40 something broad is single, whether actively hooking up or celibate, she made thousands of choices to end up at that point
> but i'm not being catered to!!!!!
Welcome to average man's entire life. You have guaranteed success on approach + no need to ever approach, all the power on the hookup apps, and a million desperate indians. How is that not enough
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>>535862973
TV is for niggers says Faulkner.
And Prince, a nigger, said in his songs to not let children watch TV.
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>>535858776
>Women are never going back into the kitchen
Society will simply collapse until everyone who doesn't force women into the kitchen is dead. It doesn't matter if that's 50% or 10% or 1% survival, nature isn't going to compromise, humanity WILL blink before nature does.
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>>535843693
hmm
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>>535843546
>You don't hate feminists and "feminist men" enough.
Not enough to go out and hunt them down, maybe, but I despise them plenty.
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>>535863228
lol there isn't going to be some big apocalypse anon. It's just going to get worse and they will put robots in jobs while your quality of life degrades back to paupers but you won't die
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>>535863008
Oh look, an incelephant
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>>535843546
She'll need him to cook and clean, duh.
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>>535843691
>men failing at school, work, and life
>women most impacted
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>>535863532
not bad, Carlos
not bad
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>>535852759
This is hilarious when you realize death row in mates are astronomically more likely to have a woman than a PhD holder lmao



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