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Why didn't Poland just join the Axis?

The doors were certainly open.

But they allied with Anglos instead who didn't give a shit about their country lmao.
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>>535859365
>Why didn't Poland just join the Axis?
Axis Lost

why are germans so low IQ?
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Well, they won their bet and their country still exists today.
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>>535859365
Poles are naturally enemies to the aryans. They need to be shoved by to asian Belarusian lands from which they came.
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>>535859365
why would we join the loser side?
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>>535859472
>Well, they won their bet and their country still exists today.
Time for another sequel
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>>535859472
>their country still exists today.
No, it doesn't. Its ruled by Jews. It isn't their country anymore.
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>>535859526
Belarus was white Russia. It wasn't Asian, maybe is now.
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>>535859471
you guys lost the Eastern portion of your country just like the Germans... why not both take on Russia and give Germans back the eastern territories and you get back yours?
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>>535860032
>white
Are Italians white?
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Their evil dictator Edward Śmigły-Rydz was trying to create Greater Poland and fell for British and French lies promising him protection in exchange for antagonizing Germany.
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>>535859919
it was always like that
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>>535860099
>we get lands that are full of ukranians and belarussians and lose western lands
are you retarded?
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>>535859365
Perpetual story of pooland
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>>535859365
Poland was the fifth most populous country in Europe at the time, and historians maintain that a mobilized and properly prepared Polish army could have fielded around 50-60 divisions and 1,000-1,500 tanks. Considering that by December 1941 during the Moscow offensive, the Germans were short by only five divisions and roughly 100-200 tanks, such a contribution could very well have tipped the balance in the Axis favor. Oh well
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>>535859365
Japan really wanted Poland to join the Axis, and they certainly would have been a very strong ally against the Soviet Union, but Hitler cared more about restoring the borders of the German Empire.
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>>535859919
Your president has a 99% approval rating in Israel and plans to become their next Prime Minister.
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>>535859365
There were collaborators that polacks dont want you to know about. There were also polack communists they dont want you to know about, many more tha just dzerzhinski, and they werent jews, they were szlachta-descended catholics bonafide polacks. dumb poleniggers dont want you to know either of these things and will fight tooth and nail to prevent you from learning about it.
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>>535860256
but Greater Poland was already part of Poland at this point. In fact, it is still part of Poland to this very day.
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>>535859365
we joined axis and gave you our petrol and manpower and you carved us up giving transylvania to the bozgors moldova to the russians and part of dobrogea to the bulgarians anyway
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>>535860845
further proof of hitler being part rothschild
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>>535862015
you know what he meant stop playing dumb
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>>535859365

Because before 1939 about 25% of their population consisted of full blood jews, of which more than half had switched sect to christianity. Not enough poles died in world war 2, not by a very wide margin.
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Cause we knew Germany would lose. It paid off in the end given that countries that didn't join Barbarossa got less harsh territorial losses.
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>>535859365
Because they were fodder, retard

Same thing now. They don't get to choose a side.
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Germans wanted their lands back. This inevitably meant war with Poland and France.
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>>535861340
Germany recruited non-German soldiers into Waffen-SS, quite liberally in fact. Name the Waffen-SS units recruited in Poland.
You can't.
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>>535867445
Watch he'll cherry pick something like the Goralenvolk highlander division, even though the unit was never actually formed.
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>>535859365
literally too full of jews. Poland doomed the world into being a jewish sandbox forever
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>>535859365
Poland had very bad leadership. They completely mishandled the situation, bringing death and destruction to Polish people.
And instead of being held accountable for their failings, the narrative shifts into heroic resistance against occupation. That heroism wouldn't have been required if Polish rulers had actually done their job properly.
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>>535869448
We couldn't trust you back then, and still really can't. Prior to the partitions, Poland's only room to maneuver was always to the East, never toward Germany. On what basis would a reconstituted Poland deal with you? As partners? As junior partners? The fact was, we didn't need your land for anything, but you would have wanted ours, eventually, no matter how the war shook out.
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>>535869448
Oh come on, the nazis already had plans prior to the war to annihilate their entire intelligentsia.
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>>535859365
They should all have just joined mexico, ww2 was a mistake
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>>535860870
>>535860256
>>535859526
The western parts of poland were polish as part of its foundation based on baptism recognized by HRE. By making a claim to those lands hitler outed himself as a pagan who didnt recognize christian founded borders. If poland joined the axis they'd be thrown at russia in place of nazi soldiers and then backstabbed anyway. Poland couldnt do anything to save itself from destruction at that point. Except it would be much worse if they joined axis.
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>>535869884
>We
You're American
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>>535869448
And whatabout (your) leaders?? You lost all that land and people when you could have just joined mexico instead
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>>535869916
Many historians believe that Hitler genuinely wanted to ally with Poland
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>>535870051
Ethnically Polish. Fact remains, there really weren't good options back then to avoid conflict, if Germany insisted on getting more land. Some of that land would be Polish. We had to fight, even if no one could foresee the consequences.
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>>535870005
exactly this. Poland didn't join Axis because their leadership weren't retarded as OP.
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>>535859365
Poles were greedy niggers, too dumb to even realize they were just tools being played with by britain
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>>535870258
The consequences were fairly easy to foresee: Yet another Partition of Poland
If Hitler wasn't such a retard and didn't attack Soviet Union, Poland would have remained gone.
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>>535870118
Almost as if politicians change minds or lie before they attain power. Many historians in the future will believe trump genuinly wanted to ally with whites
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>>535870503
>The consequences were fairly easy to foresee: Yet another Partition of Poland
Ribbentrop-Molotov had a secret clause about you and the Soviets partitioning us.
>Hitler wasn't such a retard and didn't attack Soviet Union
What if the Soviets attacked instead?
You're being unusually obtuse for a German. Poland didn't have a good option back then. Allying with Germany certainly wasn't it. Staying out of conflict wasn't possible either.
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>>535870829
You could have allied with Germany or with Soviet Union.
Instead Poland allied with Britain & France and Polish people paid the price
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>>535870829
Its simple they give 95% german danzig to germany and keep maritime access as hitler offered and then they join mexico and ww2 is avoided
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>>535870118
There really is no telling what his ACTUAL intentions were for certain. Some say that Hitler was rather emotionally driven, and since Poland was unwilling to cooperate with his terms, which weren't all that appealing from the Polish perspective then they ought to be destroyed. At the same time, there are also plenty of sources like Hans Franks diaries that prove that he had no intentions of being on good terms with the Poles whatsoever.
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>>535871091
real history shows that nazi ideology was quiet flexible. They opportunistically cooperated with slavs whenever it was beneficial.
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>>535871091
hitler wasn't perfect
probably his biggest single blunder was not working hard enough to get poland on germany's side
both poland and germany had massive numbers of the other's chief ethnicity within their borders, while at the same time poland had major east slavic populations which they would have wanted to polonize
if germany had simply let the issue lie for the moment and focused on the bigger issue (the soviets) they could have gotten the baltics into a combined polish-german sphere while also uniting with austria and czechia
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>>535859365
Maybe look at a map pre-WWI you fucking dumbass.
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>>535871453
>probably his biggest single blunder was not working hard enough to get poland on germany's side
This would have taken time. A very slow, deliberate process of integration, a proto-European Union almost, and Germany would have had to willingly not act as the superior partner (even though economically and industrially they were much more advanced, with some exceptions of course). If Germans wanted to emigrate east, buy land (or have it granted even), integrate to an extent, this could have worked. Extending protection from Soviet expansion would have been valuable to Poland and other countries as well.
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>>535871453
The nazis were just too autistic, they wanted everything done right there and then. Napoleon had the right approach, and it payed off for him, ive read somewhere that on multiple occasions polish lancers saved his life.
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>>535871808
Ezpz promise pilchudski intermarium and anschluss after nazis hold police and gov later
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>>535871969
Napoleon gave them a duchy, carved out of austria and prussia
Hitler could offer no such thing, but he could have rugpulled intermarium
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>>535859365
What is this leftoid tear retardation?
What is danzig?
What is anglos going to war against Germany and not vice versa?
All this ai tech and people still manage to be retarded.
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>>535859365
Because you were subhuman chimpanzees.
Total lack of self-reflection is strong with this one.
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>>535859365
Maybe because we didn't have any fantasies about populating the whole Eurasia with little Poles. Let alone with little Germans kek.
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>>535860365
beck clearly was
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>>535875799
We are populating the whole world with little Ukrainians.
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>>535859471
This
Imagine what the Russians would have done to the Poles if they had openly allied with the Germans.



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