>Do all that looksmaxxing and steroid use>Looks like complete shit as soon as he stops using.Steroids just aren't worth it, neither is looksmaxxing. Sure you get a few summers of fucking basically every hot 18-24 year old in your area, but the price you pay is too steep. That's why the looksmaxxing movement is spiritually homosexual.
If you use HCG you don't lose fertility at all while on test.
>>535865302If you are patient you can get jacked by simply working out and eating right. The results will last. It will also improve your mind and behavior.
He could barely lift even though he "looked like he lifted" and this is the result.
>>535865302LolFucking plastic incel gets what he deserves
>>535865459It takes forever though. I started working out when I was in MIDDLE SCHOOL. I didn't really "looked like I worked out" until I was in my early 20s. Then I got fat and looked like shit until my late 20s. If you have shit genetics and aren't 100% locked in, it can take a long ass time to get results as a natty. >>535865450It depends on if you want a son or not
>>535865302He's Looking like unc fr
>>535865302>>Looks like complete shit as soon as he stopsMany such cases
>>535865302You can get great results by just working out consistently and eating healthily. He stopped working out completely. You don’t need to become a roidtard unless you’re some clueless Miami homo.
>>535865554Hcg literally restored fertility. Its even given at clinics to raise sperm levels for men who use nothing and want to improve likelihood of getting wives pregnant. This is basic biology and chemistry. If a guy uses HCG while on test his fertility never goes away at any point.
>>535865302Women aren't generally attracted to the roided out look. Gay men, on the other hand, find it very appealing.
>>535865554>I started working out when I was in MIDDLE SCHOOL.Same, I was always the scrawny kid in school, but I got pretty jacked by 9th grade to 10th grade. I'm in my 30s and still jacked. Wanna know the difference? I worked really, really hard in the gym. And I ate a lot of high quality protein. You did not.
>>535865617Steroids basically push your nutrients into building muscle. Your hormone profile affects how much working out will help you this is why some guys lift and eat but look like shit.
>>535865302You don't constantly stay on roids. 8-12 weeks is plenty and do a post cycle. He quit lifting that's why he looks that way.
>>535865617are our nipples just going to get more degenerate as we age? :(
>>535865302He has a small frame, also it doesn't look like he lifts heavy but I don't know his number
>>535865651You're not listening to what I'm saying. YES your fertility won't go away, but you'll be more likely to have daughters instead of sons. It's why most playboys seem to always have daughters
>>535865459I recommend doing one small cycle and a post cycle therapy. Your testerone level will be higher when you get off than before you started. You will also keep 70% of your gains if you keep lifting.
>>535865554>It takes forever though.If you do it wrong. I do it right and I hone in on specific areas of my body and it takes about 8 to 10 months to max that area. Only need 4 areas to focus on. So that's less than 4 years
>>535865617>Left: Paul Dillet>Right: Pol Dalit
>>535865302he looks like a chud
>>535865302he looks like james rolfe, but james looks betterbrvtal mogging
If you lift consistently it takes years to lose all your muscle. If you lifted 5 years and then went off for a year you wouldn't lose all your mass. You might lose like 30% the first year and then another 30% the 2nd and by year 3 of no lifting you'd start to look like doyouevenlift tier. If you take roids and don't work out contrary to what mpmd memers would have you believe you will deflate fast because the muscle wasn't earned, there was no memory, it was just a hormonal response
>>535865554That's why string bean is the best
>>535865749Oh I worked hard in the gym. My lifts went up like crazy. What stopped me is that I was 6'2. All the weight went to my legs.
>>535865901I already have really high T, likely because my childhood conditions were appropriate (mostly whole food animal diet, lots and lots of sports and martial arts). Maybe when I'm in my 40s it might be beneficial. But right now in my 30s I have a really solid build with very wide shoulders and V taper.
>>535865302That's why retardmaxxing is king. You just don't give a shit and the whores come to you effortlessly.
>>535866189I'm 6'2" and got pretty jacked when I was 24-25 I'm 30 now. One thing I've noticed is so many guys neglect their backs. They train back like they train legs. A big back and good triceps is like 70% of looking huge. Do more pullups and rows
>>535865554>It takes forever though. I started working out when I was in MIDDLE SCHOOL. I didn't really "looked like I worked out" until I was in my early 20s. Then I got fat and looked like shit until my late 20s. If you have shit genetics and aren't 100% locked in, it can take a long ass time to get results as a natty.stop being a little bitcha year ago I lost my job and had to work for fucking safety clean moving 400lb drums into trailersin a WEEK I was already seeing improvement, 3 months I'm ripped and a year in now resemble a body builder. I also cut out all the soda and mcdonalds, so I'm not eating garbage. lift
If bodybuilding.com was still around Clavicular would have easily been the next Elliot Rodger.
>>535865302Everyone who was on steroids deflates like crazy off them.
>>535865554>It takes forever thoughSkill issue. I go from random normie to envied gymbro in half a year.
>>535865302true...
>>535866189Maybe your body fat was too high. If you work hard and eat right (it's genuinely hard for taller guys to eat enough quality food, you actually have to force yourself), then you should've at least been ripped within 1-2 years. If you had high body fat you must have been eating slave food.
Just be a man lol
>>535866327A good back is like 70% of not ending up a cripple
>>535865302i'm on Tesamorelin and BPC 157. Making gains every week while losing fat and healing scars that are over a decade old.
>>535865302>be Clav>off Testosterone for 4 weeksfrom artificial chad to lesbian kekonly way for a redemption arc is go full natty
>>535866430Yeah I was eating a lot of goyslop. I finally got a good job and started buying whole foods and working out consistently. Took me about a year but I eventually leaned out and now I look good in a tanktop. I had a girl that lives in my building randomly say to me last night "oh wow anon you're starting to look really good now" since I leaned out.>>535866374Yeah they're not worth using.
>>535866031he got the inshape dad build
>>535865302
>>535865302I'm an eternal skelly, 5'10 135 lbs and I'm 44 years old, drink a shit ton of full flavor beer, eat what I want (which isn't sweets but I love carbs). When I was in my early 20's I was working out like a mofo, force feeding myself protein to the point of hating my own farts and I was only getting ripped and leaner, definitely stronger too but that wasn't my primary goal. Iirc I was about 140 lbs naturally after working out six days a week on a regimen a friend that was going for Mr Olympia laid out for me and eating basically nothing but tuna, eggs, chicken and steak as often as possible all day until I was miserable for like a year and said fuck it, let's try some juice. I did one cycle of test and kept the workout/diet regimen going and did see a nice difference, not what I had hoped but gained another five pounds in like six weeks or whatever the cycle was got to 145lbs. At that point I was getting burnt out and figured it wasn't gonna happen, I was never gonna be a muscle man, so I went back to eating normally and working out 3-4 days a week and dropped back down under 140 in like two weeks, unreal, a years worth of hard effort and a little juice just to disappear in a fortnight of letting off it, never again
>>535866488I mean upper back, like wide lats, traps, and rear delts. But lower back and core for sure, squatting is actually good for the back but too many people overdo it. They just push weight numbers and fuck themselves up instead of feeling the muscle contractions and what their obliques hamstrings glutes etc are actually doing
>>535866807Being lean and ripped is better aesthetically than looking like a pro bodybuilder. Just focus on your silhouette like broad shoulders and lean waist.
>>535865302I am fat and jolly maxxing we are not the same
>>535866374Most of them cause a build up of glycogen and other non-functional components, the muscles bloat and look strong but don't have a proportional increase in strength relative to size. Then they rapidly "dry out" back to their normalized size once the juice stops. Compounds like Trenbolone or YK-11 seem to produce better results because the growth is more focused in the actual muscle fiber proteins.
>>535865302Body builders with big traps look like a skinny man in a big muscle man suit
>>535866932I had no delusions of looking like a pro body builder, I just wanted to fill out a T-shirt, lol, anyways life led me to working in the trades so I still stay decently fit, mostly in the shoulders and forearms, although I'm noticing a beer belly making its presence known, not a good look at 5'10 135 lbs
>>535866807I said all that for the young anons thinking of doing a cycle or two for quick gains, it will disappear immediately unless you keep your foot on the gas working out hard and eating appropriately so don't do it unless you plan to make the lifting and eating a big part of your life forever
>>535865554>Then I got fatHave you thought about not becoming fat? It's not hard.
>>535865302Looks like Peter Thiel gave him AIDS.
>>535865461I'm skinny but women always get surprised when I pick up something 75lbs with ease. It's funny how they have no real gauge for strength yet they try to select for it.
>>535865617Depends on your point of view
>>535866636>only way for a redemption arc is go full nattyIf roidtrannies had any self control they would never have gone on the juice in the first placeThey all go back, and they all die of it
>>535865302previously you didn't take steroids unitl you'd already been in the gym for years and developed a solid basis of knowledge, work ethic, muscle mass and insecurity. now niggers turn 15 and just start roiding for tiktok views. he did even look like much while he on the gear anyway. lol.
>>535868232They do it for the easy pussy it's that simple.
>>535867690not only is it not hard, youre fat while youre eating, so you know youre making yourself fatter, while youre fat. like food is good but the food doesnt put itself in your mouth
>>535865302You have to be really fucked up to deflate that much in four weeks. He needs to regain more than just fertility, it's not normal to lose that much muscle that fast.
>>535868547There's something else going on that he isn't talking about.
>>535866807that sounds like the standard modern bodybuilder approach at the time you were lifting. it was a shit approach and there were many such cases. i did it like that for a while before ditching it and going to powerlifting and low carb whole foods. eating nothing but protein is a shit way to eat and if you're feeling miserable all the time it's your body telling you you're fucking unhealthy. that's why i switched up my diet. i was 5'9 and went to 188lbs lean and just stayed there. and i mean i had veins in my abs with no fucks given and not eating bullshit foods. i later switched to body weight/gymnastic rings + running and swimming (basically the bud/s candidate program) and dropped to about 175. never counted calories the whole time (it's for fags). niggers use roids to hide the effects of shitty protocols. they're good at that but you suffer accordingly. fuck boiled chicken and rice. like just get fucked.
>>535868371i doubt any of these guys get much pussy, and pussy isn't hard to get. most guys have trouble getting out of their own way. that's the real problem.
>>535868547>Pump and good lighting and good posture and good shirt and foods to pump moreVS>normal guy in tshirt with bad anglesNah, even bodybuilders look fairly normal if the lighting's not on their side, I go from looking gigachad in my bathroom to incel in my bedroom with the lighting change. He's actually not even big on the right, just normal but with good angles, deliberately showing the widest part of the arm here and flexing the neck.
>>535868911Most women in America are fat and ugly. Getting pussy that you actually want to fuck is difficult. Also a third of gen Z men haven't had sex in the past year. A lot of guys aren't getting any cheeks while there are some guys fucking a lot of women.
>>535865554>It takes forever though. I started working out when I was in MIDDLE SCHOOL. I didn't really "looked like I worked out" until I was in my early 20s.That's could be a lot of reasons. You didn't train correctly / lifted heavy enough. You didn't get enough, or your genetics are just awful, or all combined.
>>535865302It has almost nothing to do with roids. Fitness is an eternal endeavor. You don't just get jacked and then stop working out and keep all that muscle. You either make a choice, whether your natty or not, to keep at it forever, or you slowly lose your gains. Once he blew up I bet my entire fortune of 5 dollars and a half eaten chicken sandwich that he just coasted off his fame and stopped giving a fuck.
>>535865302"The Beautiful Ones" from Rat Utopia
>>535869165Just shut the fuck up if you're too stupid to grasp reality
>on test since 14lol that for sure fucked up him up for life. Getting test from an outside source during your puberty. I doubt his body even knows how to make it anymore.
>>535869272>No argument just insultsOkay gayboy you showed me who's boss
>>535868960>Nah, even bodybuilders look fairly normal if the lighting's not on their sidenah. that's only the light weight guys and gym heroes. you can't hide proper size.>>535869055>Most women in America are fat and ugly.don't fuck fatties. >Getting pussy that you actually want to fuck is difficult. nah. stop using social media and believing the bullshit you see on it.
>>535869165>my entire fortune of 5 dollars and a half eaten chicken sandwichmad jelly fucking richfag
>>535869336If 67% of your dating pool is fat, that only leaves a small portion of women worth dating. Subtract those in relationships and those that are married or "happily single" it can be tough.
Clav is 20 years old and is a very successful multi-millionaireHe has 10 more years to "mature," all the while having a huge stack of cash he can invest into any new venture he wants.He won. Haters of clav are just unironically 90-110 IQ
>>535865302He looked weak as fuck even on roids. It's the jew genetics, they're just weak people, like Indians.All the UFC champions right now are White. You'll never see an Indian heavyweight champion of anything. Nor a jew.
>>535869436i guess maybe if you live in a small town or something. maybe extend your social circle otherwise. you do actively try to meet new people don't you?
>>535869165>Once he blew up I bet my entire fortune of 5 dollars and a half eaten chicken sandwich that he just coasted off his fame and stopped giving a fuck.Absolutely. Dude had some kind of stroke and completely deflated and still making thousands every month doing nothing.
>>535869336>nah. stop using social media and believing the bullshit you see on itIf people realized that social media is one giant psyop designed to make you forge the chains you wear in life inceldom would almost disappear overnight. People have completely forgotten to connect and some of them have become so addicted to their own sadness they don't even want to try. It's the most successful population control psyop of all time.
>>535865901What is a "small cycle" and what does post cycle therapy consist of?
>>535865302Going the natty route as a teen was the best choice I ever made. I even had to take nearly a year off to wait for a major surgery and I only went down about 20 pounds on my benchpress. Im shocked at how quickly he has lost the muscle. Thats what you get for being a cheater.
>>535865892>It's why most playboys seem to always have daughtersI always thought of it like some form of fucked up karmic justice. All of my pussyhound friends had daughters.
>>535869580yeah. 4chan forms part of the feedback loop as well, some boards not so much but especially this place post 2015. you can talk yourself out of anything, including your own life.
>>535869126Yeah I got noticeable gains in only a year and I started at 14 and I was only training 3-4x a week between lifting and boxing.
>>535865302That's moot.
>>535869646Losing muscle that your body naturally can't gain on its own is lost even quicker through atrophy than normal muscle gains. That's why extremely big people deflate. But it's easily remedied for the most part by simply continuing to work those muscle groups so they don't shrink.
>>535865302Bad genetics.
I've almost never been able to gain weight being an ectomorph. 20 years in the gym and I have a physique that looks like maybe 5 years of work. Pretty proud of my weight though. 6'3 and 220, probably 18-20% bf. Now I'm trying to get a small gut for the extra weight because being a big fucker is more important to me than pulling young women. Also, after a certain muscle amount, you're impressing men and scaring most women away anyways.
>>535865302This dude is the biggest dweeb on the planet. There's no greater proof that every internet celebrity is manufactured by jewish interests for the sole purpose of destroying what's left of western youth than this pathetic queer right here being so famous.
>>535869698That's one of the theories but yeah I saw that as well. All the dudes that get tons of pussy and dogged women out got daughters.
>>535869605Maybe like 4-6 weeks on. Post cycle therapy is normally enclomifene or nolvadex and just waiting around equal time as when you were on steroids to let your HPG axis to recuperate. It's best to get blood work also to see what's going on in your body before and after.
>>535865302>Sure you get a few summers of fucking basically every hot 18-24 year old in your areaEvery hot 18-24 year old MAN you mean. Only fags are attracted to muscle dudes
>>535865302NO REFUNDS, TRANNY!
>>535869759desu I was terrified because the surgery occurred around 28 yrs old so I was worried about losing 14 yrs of training. After the surgery it took me only about 3 months to get back to my previous maxes. Im over 40 now so its mainly about maintaining what I have and I get injured so easily now and what used to take a few days to heal now takes a week or two LOL
>>535865554I had a similar experience. I attribute it to not really racking up the calories until my early twenties. I legit did the half a gallon of milk a day meme and it worked. Now, after I work out much less, I still have retainer most of my musculature. That's what nobody tells you, you can keep most of your results after you quit lifting.
>>535869898thats just BS and no gym detected.I can tell you have never had women approach you in a club and start groping your biceps and chest.
>>535865901Forbidden knowledge right there
>>535865302I thought test makes you permanently infertile?
>>535865678Very accurate
>>535869925You're body retains some memory of your peak physique, yeah.
>>535869750He wishes he was as good looking as moot.
>>535865302His body probably stopped producing T because he was injecting the stuff. Your pituitary stops making it when the body tells it it has enough.He fucked himself up at a young age
>>535870029Fuck no. You can blast (cycle) test for years. Retards are getting infertile from blasting and cruising (staying on lower doses) multiple roids. Just test won't affect you much at all if you're young, 20s-mid30s.
>>535865450Enclomiphene works
>>535865554It seems like even the guys that blast and cruise still have kids...
I guess twink birth is a thing, too.
>>535867937Can I see a higher resolution of this or the archive link?I promise I will not fapped on this.
>>535870166Enclomifene does nothing when you're on steroids though. HCG offers some protection, it's not ideal but it's the most practical.
>>535865450I also love heartmaxxing and livermaxxing... There is literally no downside to giant organs... I also have upsyndrome
>>535870272Yeah it does. I had my son 5 months on test fully on enclomiphene
>>535870307You can take protective ancillaries, niggers act like we're still living in 1990 or something.
>>535867937wait that's a guy?
>>535865302its perfect
>>535870385How much test were you taking though? Because at very high doses your hypothalamus and pituitary shut down, so enclomifene doesn't do anything. Maybe you were below the saturation level?
>>535868761The aids from his meth degeneracy?
>>535870412Kek no I just am not a gay tranny... Sorry I don't understand the exact pills you need to pretend you are a strong not faggot or whatever your gay goal is. Enjoy
>>535870159Nice, I'm gonna go get testosterone and inject myself in the balls right now. thanks for the tip.
He’s here for a good time not a long time
>>535870272>HCGHow. Do I get it?
>>535870550Well you should start understanding because you live in a world that's becoming increasingly gay and retarded and Jewish at an exponential rate and you're going to need superhuman strength in addition to other things to fight off the demons of tomorrow.
>>535870617what the fuck.
>>535865302LOL THE NEW WORLD ORDER FAILED AND WAS ALWAYS GOING TO FAILTYRANTS ALWAYS GET EXPOSEDFUCK GOD THE SHIT ON THE FLOOR CHILD RAPING NIGGER FOR BEING THE NON OMNIPOTENT BITCH BEHIND THISNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU CANT EXPOSE ME TO EVERYONE NOOOOOOI AM A GOD - GOD (THE OG NARCISSIST)
>>535865617me on the right frfr
>>535865617thats literally giga-nigga
>>535870649I got a bunch off Swiss Chems recently, it's still on sale. They're among the top reputable sources on the internet.
>>535870697A lot of that is ancillaries, it looks bad but there's only a few substances listed that need to be used with caution.
>>535870307He said HCG not HGHHCG keeps your balls large and functioning while on TRT.A lot of retards here would be helped by TRT, it's better than coldshowermaxxing.
>>535870749"Reputable"? What does that even mean?
>>535870837>Disclaimer, 4chan post may contain mistakes, misinformation and outright lies. Follow at your own risk.
>>535867649>don't do it unless you plan to make the lifting and eating a big part of your life foreverIdk why you wouldn't go into it with this mindset or not at all in the first place. Obviously you're not going to just get buff and then magically stay buff without maintenance.
>>535870849>"Reputable"? What does that even mean?It means they're from Pakistan, not India.
>>535870849You're buying drugs off the internet, so ideally you want to buy from places that have a gained reputation for quality and delivering the goods as opposed to something bought out of a gas station or just a scam website.
>>535870836why the fuck do you need to use any of it at all? in my day all we had was booze, coffee, cigarettes and pussy and we did absolutely fine.
>>535865302I came here to 4chan after hearing about it on NPR during a news report on clavicular and how he mogs last week. I haven’t left since. But let's be real: Clavicular getting absolutely zero-diffed and frame-mogged at ASU proved that biacromial width is a dead metric. The entire "looksmaxxing" arc is just a psyop to keep guys buying supplements and streaming subscriptions. If you don't have natural facial harmony, widening your shoulders just makes you look like a Roblox character or an Ark Survival custom build. Frame-maxxing is the ultimate cope for guys who know they have a subhuman eye area.
Did he know you can lift without assistant chemicals?
>>535870653Mmmhmm you should probably move to copenhaven
>>535870966We have our reasons, for me it's just about superhuman utility strength. I need to be able to move heavy pails of soil and bags of concrete around in confined spaces at night for reasons. Other people want to look good, which is also reasonable since you live in a world dominated by social interactions and the way you look affords a lot of opportunities, your skills and qualifications will only take you so far.
>>535870967Zoomers are somehow worse than millenials.
>>535870953>reputation?You mean sock puppet reviews, paid testimonials and social media marketing? Gotcha. You do realise that anybody can make a website and sell rat poison labelled as anything without liability? Fag.
>>535865459>>535865554zoom zooms dont have the patience or decision making ability to stick to hard programs that actually build muscle. they convince themselves its genetics, or they dont really need to train x way to, or do a million exercises per session fatiguing themselves. YOU have to progressive overload. Start with a low amount of exercises until you understand how you respond to training and how to program. You cant read everything online about fitness without doing it yourself first. Like he honestly doesnt look like he works out on the pic in the right to me, just looks like he is on gear. YOU have to progress overload and push yourself EVERY time that you can.
>>535870617Where the fuck are people just getting ketamine from? Ive wanted to try that shit for like the last 20 years and have NEVER been able to find it out on the street...
>>535871160If you do PEDs then you know about Swiss Chems. They've been around awhile, their stuff objectively works and is backed with third party test results, and they deliver as promised. That's kind of the idea behind building a reputation so people trust your business instead of someone just making a quick website and selling people a bottle of piss, shit, and cum.
>>535871324Shut the fuck up you moron.
>>535871238Their friends... Nigger what?
>>535871350You should maybe consider some estrogen blockers.
>>535871400Paid by post fag, zuck my natty, hairy and fat ball sack.
>>535870266Just click the 3 points left of "Anonymous" ->open original file
>>535866329nice job ignoring everything he said about genetics you retard, I guess reading comprehension isn't part of yours
>>535871324>If you do PEDs then you know about Swiss Chems.theres a reason why Swartzenegger was from Austria.
>>535866807I am a similar size and a bit older than you, I got sick of being skinny (despite being quite fit) and went from 135 lbs to 160 in 3 years. partly from focusing on good food (you need veg as well as protein to metabolize properly and also to enjoy tasting your food), mostly from consistently sticking to a regular program. You don't need to max out your lifts unless you like tendonitis, just keep incrementing slowly and pursue good form.Once you pass 50 and your test drops a bit naturally you are more at risk from building up visceral fat and having a belly because your liver doesn't process it as fast. Too bad cause I love dairy and cheese in particular, but knowing this I've reduced my saturated fat intake and still have a 30 waist in my mid 50s.imho the key to success at lifting is not to chase a goal like having your arms a certain size or being able to lift some magic number, because if you're overly goal focused your motivation will evaporate as you either hit it or decide it's meaningless, eg all those guys who slam it in teh gym to have a beach body, probably never get laid anyway because they're autists, and then get fat once summer is over. I lift to stave off depression and minimize long-term health problems, once I decided that it was something I would just have to do for the rest of my life like brushing my teeth it became much easier to lock in.
>>535871523You forgot to mention semen retention being crucial in maintaining high T and scrambling hormones.
>>535865302If you cant pack away 6000 calories a day or better you shouldnt run a cycle. You need to be a landfill or youre wasting your time
>>535871608Ahem, not scrambling hormones.
>>535865302he looks like he would lose to a 15 year old girl lolwho the fuck follows any of these people loli only like funny people
>>535871452I'm not paid by anyone, I was just suggesting a source for the other anon from a place that had it on sale and was reputable. We both know that if we both had erections and we both walked towards each other jousting style my penis would touch your belly before yours touched mine.
What part of shut the fuck up moron don't you understand?(No you for you)
>>535870542Most young people are doing drugs anon
>>535865302you can't be this ignorant can you?or you a dumb jew posting for shekels?
Bet you would break your nose before any penis mad contact
>>535871608Semen retention doesn't do anything. The Sertoli cells and Leydig cells in the testicles are stimulated off separate hormones.
>>535871136>I need to be able to move heavy pails of soil and bags of concrete around in confined spaces at night for reasons.yeah dude everyone used to do manual labor as well. if anything we were more active than people are now. going to the gym is a low tier level of fitness, typically focusing on a small range of your mid-level energy systems. metcon is mostly a con and just does the previous in more detail. >the way you look affords a lot of opportunities, your skills and qualifications will only take you so far.this has always been the case. what kids these days fail to understand is that it's actually about your ability to work people's heads. charisma is a real thing and most young dudes these days don't have it. you can't fake it and you don't grow it with narcissism. kids need to go outside. the people who have always won are the people who can convince other people to do shit. doubly so for men because men don't have pussies. or at least men shouldn't, i don't know about that nigger in the op. it's what is called alpha but most don't understand what they're looking at. they think it's about a haircut or a chemical stack. it's never changed and it never will. it's why booze, cigarettes and pussy were always the killer app. aside from being good for you, they're socially motivating habits while also being cheap and low bar to entry. so kids would grow socially and grow outwards rather than turning more and more into themselves. commies and faggots have a lot to answer for.
>>535866807You are stupid. Stop using the internet. At least switch to r/o, you stupid faggot.
>>535865302>That's why the looksmaxxing movement is spiritually homosexual.The rebranding of the metrosexual lifestyle is gay, who would have thought?
>>535871823Nicotine is an aromatase inhibitor.
>>535871238If you have a social life you'll be able to get drugs easily.
>>535865450You’ll still be a virgin loser though
cavicular should start taking estrogen
>>535871875While subverting pua teachings from mid 2000s from looks don't matter, to only looks matter and reusing terms like mog, originally style mog (amog) as mentioned in 'The Game: penetrating the secret society of pickup artists' by Neil Strauss.
>>535871884nicotine is better than you are.
>>535871994SO MANY people on here would definitely at least grind on this woman at the club if they didn't know.
>>535872083Thanks bro, I love you too (no homo)
>>535865302Looksmaxxing is just another shade of trannism
>>535872218No it's the only shade of trannyism... Maybe if I mutilate myself people will like me! Holy fuck people like fatties when they are funny your just an insufferable cunt. Being an insufferable dick won't solve anything
>>535865617Right is unironically better
>>535865302Wacky. I had same build as picture on the right just from a basic routine for 10 years and a good diet. Even though I went from 4 days a week to 1 day a week and much lighter weight with basic bodyweight stuff when Im bored I still have the same general build just a bit more fat than before. Muscles really are tough to build up quickly but once you have them they are hard to lose if you do minimal maintenance. Only time I really had a noticeable drop was after a surgery where the medication gave me zero appetite and I struggled to eat 500 calories a day for a month. Lost 20 pounds in a month and took like half a year to recover my losses.
>>535872089then it's decided cavicular should transmaxx
Can somebody please post the glorbo cortisol nuke clip? Love that shit
>>535872503>Stacy almost caught a career ending cortisol spike after a transmaxxed Clavicular jestifyed her on stream by calling her an ovariemogged ciscel while she was mid-blow between 2 LOW-TIER DARKIES at ASU
>>535865302>Damaged his brain & vision with retarded substance abuse Many such cases
>>535865617Kwashiorkor ass nigga
>>535865450Not when you're taking a dozens of other Jewish drugs/supplements
Bunch of self absorbed literal negros. Work on your mind, your community, your land, your animals, your family, your souk, before your work on fake muscles to attract some tatted up used up whore. Most people are simply retarded and pathetic thrse days...
>>535869960>>535865749>>535865554you shouldnt start lifting until you are done growing in height or you run the risk of being a manletall the best lifters in high school were manlets, but all the best lifters in the army were tall with huge wingspans
>water filled "muscles" deflate to the skin and bones base it began atMORE NEWS AT 11
>>535865617the majority of men can handle injecting 100-200mg of testosterone every weekwhen a doctor diagnoses low T they will give the patient 50-200mg of testosterone a weekyou wont compete with juicers who are blasting 1200mg but you also wont feel like you are losing a battle with the reaper of exhaustion
>>535870408imagine him trying to hike up a mountainthey would call the chopper lol
>>535870266it's already in high res, remove the 'm' from the end of the url if you're on mobile. And here's a follow up post
>>535871238bbgate.at has a guy who said he successfully pulled off a one pot version in march.but then in may china banned one of the precursors so you will need to become good at organic chemistry and use your brain to get around it
>>535865302i laugh at retard zoomers blasting gear because if you don’t die at 31 from a heart attack, then you’re going to lose every single one of your gains and end up with bitch tots and a totally fucked up figure; your reward for your impatience & vanity. lol
>>535871523>mostly from consistently sticking to a regular programHmm, that bit I certainly have not done, I'm still very active but haven't had a lifting regimen (apart from 20 pushups a night) in well over a decade. I eat quite well, 90+% of my meat intake comes from either venison I shoot, eggs that my chickens lay or bass from my pond, all completely organic. I do some(often)times skip veggies but I also have a big garden that is a hobby of mine so I eat more just from feeling like I should but it's more of an all out or bust than a regular staple of my diet. 160 lean and our build? You're probably a prime looking being whatever age, good for you anon and thanks for the advice/insight
>>535868761dude is a tremendous faggot and is constantly looking for shortcuts instead of just putting in the work and lifting the fucking weights like every other shitcunt zoomer on this god forsaken rock.>fork found in kitchen!
>>535871608>semen retentionUse it or lose it anon, your body ain't dumb, if the test backs up and isn't being used it ain't gonna keep making it, it'll put those resources elsewhere
>>535871825No u
>>535870408Good lordhas this man never used stairs
>>535870617walking science experiment jfc. Imagine taking all of this shit instead of just lifting weights and eating chicken & brown rice. Zoomers truly are deplorable & irredeemable.
>>535865302No way this is real. So many people in this thread are being bated like retards. I don’t like the guy, but you don’t go from looking like the right to the left in 4 weeks unless you’re dying of cancer or something.I do think the right picture is touched up as well, mind you. But I’m not even sure the left is new or recent.
>>535865302Where do people even get testosterone, it used to be hard as fuck to get.
>>535865617>kevin levrone.jpgAll these years later everytime I see hyper responders I think of Kevin. What a freak.
>>535874141steroids are the equivalent of filters & photoshop for women: literally fake & gay.
>>535874181you get it from being a man, zoom zoom. Unlucky.
>>535870617>only takes 7.5mg adderallLmao least believable part.
>>535874141Angles, focal length and being dead cold vs having a massive pump will absolutely make that difference.
>>535869457He's a hardcore drug addict, he'll lose his good looks in his 30s and be dead by 50 at best
>>535874181You can get it prescribed if you take a blood test that shows you have shitty levels. I tried this but my test came back as a 50s level male so the doctor refused to give me the extra I was after.
>>535865302he's not doing so badlymost guys who stop bodybuilding turn into fat blobs
>>535865749samebut i got wrekt by auto-immunetho i still look in better shape than the avg mutt
>>535873933Yeah I was fit from being active and decently strong, spent years in construction etcBut focusing your efforts on specific muscle/muscle groups in a repetitive fashion makes a buge differenceJust get a bunch of plates and some dumbell handles and a pull up bar, that'll keep you busy for a eyar. You don't need a ton of stuff, you just gotta give up 4-6 hours a week
>>535874344There's no way he makes his 30s unless he completely goes off the grid
>>535872089>grind on this woman at the clubxir do you fucking understand where you are posting ?
>>535865302Fuck looksmaxxing, you should be breeding.
>>535874026What are nocturnal emissions? What is sperm reabsorption and chakra ascension? What do masonic aprons have to do with anything?Carry on cooming (and being a chick repelling low t incel) you coomer.
>>535875196This place is weird there are lots of virgins with no lives and there are also a bunch of sexual degenerates with lots of sexual partners.
>>535870408Grim
>>535874964All one needs is a heavy enough kettlebell.
roids users shrink news at 10
>>535865554no it doesn’t. StrongLifts. Find the Mehdi PDF or get the app. 5x5 routine based on squats. You will be squatting 1.5 x your body weight within 2 years, no problem.
>>535865302how the fuck does it go away that fast. if a normal person stops working out for a month it doesnt get that bad. did the muscle never exist in the first place?
>>535873248>you shouldnt start lifting until you are done growing in height or you run the risk of being a manletYeah too bad for football they forced all of us to lift weights.
>>535875631Pharma patient for life. What is a man? It's natural testicles.
>>535865450Enjoy your cancer!t. The Alchemist.
>>535874008I audibly gasped the first time I saw this video>>535874181Internets
He did steroids during puberty, his body is perma fucked.
>>535875744>t. The Alchemist.Checked and quintessence-pilled
>>535874344>Loses his looks in is 30sHe isn't the makes it to 30 type drug addict. Bro has been on test since 14 if I recall correctly... Which is to say he blocked off his testes natural T production before they could even start blasting him with natural testosterone.>>535865302Yea he looks like the chud-jack>>535866031Feel like James Rolfe should be worse looking than post-T clav but for some reason he looks better idk why. He looks more coherent idk how to put it
>>535875631It's glycogen and water inflating the appearance of the muscle under the influence of the steroids and dissipates quickly when off cycle. Real tissue wouldn't break down that fast unless you were under full famine conditions. Your real muscle growth is best evaluated by measurable strength gain rather than physical size.
>>535876475Assuming it's a mix of no muscle memory (iirc he does not workout very often nor did he have a period where he was consistent with it) and horrible diet (his own words).Testosterone supply stopped coming in so no stimulus for the muscle to grow or mentain the mass it used to haveHe took a faustian bargin and didn't do much to make the most out of it.>>535875631And what he said.
>>535865302He looks like shit both ways. Dude would be way better off if he accepted his natural nerdy gooky genes look and played into it.
>>535865450Yeah ok roidtroon, steroids are designed to fuck your shit up.
>>535876709He likely still has some decent muscle even though it doesn't look impressive. Anabolic steroids will still put on more strength gain doing nothing at all than someone going natty and working out.
>>535865302well permanently shrinks your testicles
>>535865554>working outThere's your problem retard, your body knows gym work is fake and doesn't adapt. I did martial arts with sparring and rock climbing. Wrestling is also great. If I didn't succeed, I couldn't just set the weights down and be safe. I got my ass beat or fell off a fucking cliff. Your body knows when it's in real danger if it doesn't adapt and perform, and it responds accordingly by producing more of the hormones you need to adapt. I was am absolute monster when I did real training. I shrank down a lot and got weak when all I did was weights.
>>535875620>5x5>1.5 x your body weight within 2 yearsIt amazes me how fucking weak people are. That's not even a brag, that's a beginner milestone that should happen within the first 3-6 months if you're not a fatfuck. Utilize the Mentzer method. I do one set of an exercise per week, ~5 reps per set. My workout takes a full year. Don't see it in days. The progress comes week by week. So long as you reach failure once a week, you're golden. You've done 52 sets per year and progressed linearly each time. Keep yoir fatigue bar low and your recovery prioritized, that sets you for the best performance with no fatigue next week.You want to do 560 sets per year, you fuck your shit up. You get glycogen bloating and inflammation giving you that soft plump look. God I bet you don't even train your connective tissue specifically. You don't know shit about strength, keep training for bloat and thinking yoir results are in the fucking mirror, faggot. Your results are in the iron.
>>535877140I've never had any luck with weight training. The only thing that has made me physically more capable in my life is manual labor and physical sport training through long repetitive practice. I don't doubt that somebody who is serious about strength training in the gym can build it, I've seen too many people who have built strength in the gym to nit believe it works. I've just never been able to find the drive to get better at weight lifting by lifting weights.As far as athletics goes there are certain things that simply require classical weight training to achieve. Gymnastics really requires weight training at upper levels if I'm not mistaken. Same with track amd field sports along with others.Still doesn't change the fact that some people who live active lifestyles will be able to outperform peo0le who have just started weight training under certain circumstances.
>>535877574a lot of people just overestimate how hard they're training when in reality most people barely break a sweat after doing some goofy sets of 5 x 10 with weights that they can easily liftmanual labor is great for passively training specific areas but in general people would be better off by slowly pushing themselves close to the point of exhaustion but that (almost) never happens in a gym training scenario because people know that they can walk away whenever unlike with work or some other "real" scenario where they have to keep going in order to complete a task
>>535877802i never had that problemi used to exercise hard cos i was mentally fucked up - either depressed or angrynever gave a fuck about looks, which is why steroids was and still is out of the question - it's gay as shitmy pull up sets would break most pro athletes
>>535870617>Cialis
>>535878070Post pullup routine/stats
>>535865450Hairline status?
>>535877574Weight lifting isn’t universal. People’s bodies react differently to it and because of this there’s an ocean of misinformation and lies from ‘gym bros’ who think they’re gonna tell you how you’re doing it wrong, when they know nothing about your body.I had to learn by trial and error that my body wants me to train twice per day, and that both times some of the exercises need to be to absolute failure. If I try to fit all of those exercises into a single two hour slot it just doesn’t work the same way. Some people I know will injure themselves training this way. I’d guess manual labour fits the routine and motion your body is suited to better than the gym does.
>tfw can't even do push ups
>>535877140This sounds retarded but there is some truth to it, with weights it's easy to stop before you truly push yourself.
>>535870617He actually fucked his shit up badly and is definitely infertile. If you're gonna troon out on roids, typically people do 300-500mg of test in short cycles. Severely dysmorphic dudes or pro bodybuilders will push 1 gram, this will kill you very early. He's doing 1/3-5th the amount roidtroons do, less than doctors typically give old men. He's on hormone replacement therapy to lower his testosterone in the worst way, because his gonads are not going to produce testosterone naturally after its been provided by an outside source for so long, and he didn't even do enough test to get hardcore gains. What an idiot.>>535878146Not even worth the stuffy nose and vision problems it causes. Viagra fucks up your sight too.
Be me.Average looks.Slightly bigger than average dick.Get an average looking girlfriend.Pay for breast implants.Pay for lipo to treat problem areas (below shoulders, etc.).Pay for 2nd breast implant surgery (after skin stretches to allow > 650cc size.Have super hot girlfriend now.Cum in her pussy on the daily.Never lifted weights.Only handed over credit card occasionally.This shortcut works.Suck on big mommy milkers as I blow my load in her tight pussy.
>>535865302Is he balding too, how many anti-psychotics did they put him on after his autounaliving attempt that he already got fat and started losing his hair?
>>535878146It's best known as being a dick pill but it has whole body effects and helps circulate blood through the lungs for improved cardio. It also has zero negative side effects which makes it an S-tier drug.
>>535865302KEK HE LOOKS LIKE AN INCEL HAHAHHAbased clav, i just like this dood more
>>535878412anti-psychotics don't make you lose your hair. the answer is much simpler: he got mogged by his genes.
>>535878339It's not even so much about pushing yourself, it's about what your body produces and is capable of under stress and fear. I used to lift in my garage and someone came by trying to fight me. I had the deadlift bar loaded up heavy and after I shut the garage and got back to lifting I was pulling my max so smoothly it was like butter.Put yourself under stress of being harmed for long periods of time, it will physiologically change you. Niggers in the ghetto are naturally tougher because of the conditions in which they live. It causes them to run on violent hormones and their bodies express traits relates to their needs, execution of violence. We all have those traits locked away, at least to the extent of our genes. You would be a more masculine man, with higher expressed masculine traits, if you had developed under more dangerous conditions. You CAN simulate those conditions by fighting, wrestling, policing, soldiering, but you cannot in the comfort of a weights gym. It's just too comfy and your whole self, body and mind, know it's safe and easy work. It doesn't put the same chemicals in your system as being under threat of something real.
>>535878409The issue comes when someone sees her and takes her from you. Just be careful.
>>535865892>>535869698This happens because pussyhounds and playboys get a ton of pussy juices on their highly absorbent vans deferens skin. And in their mouths ( from all the oral cunninglingus ). The more different female's pussy juices you get on you makes the female hormones build up inside the body over time. Then when you sperm into a women and get her pregnant, all the latent female hormones you had built up inside you mixes with the mothers and BAM! Just like that you get daughters instead of sons.
