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Explain to me (a neet) why universal income is bad. It's my dream life to receive money without doing anything;
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>>535867711

When technology automates all our jobs it may be a good idea, but much needs to change before UBI is practical. Yes being neet is very cozy.

Checked
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>>535867711
I want to be in charge of making sure that people on UBI are "eligible". It would be a real shame if people that I don't like got free shit.
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>>535867862
All of our jobs will be automated by the end of this century. It's just a matter of time until universal basic income becomes law
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I can make sure that shit a robot cannot do gets done by people on UBI. Robots are expensive and cost more to replace than the guys that got cancer from scraping asbestos. In fact, I'll save money by denying them UBI for non-compliance. If they die young. That's OK too. Win, win. Being a political officer is going to be fun.
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if nobody is earning anything, the money runs out.
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>>535867711
assuming AI becomes more advanced like they say, all governments will need to consider UBI eventually. only a matter of time.
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What are you going to do with money, OP?
You don't need any now.
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>>535867711
the govt only gives money to its employees
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>>535868836
>ssuming AI becomes more advanced like they say, all governments will need to consider UBI eventually. only a matter of time.
They'll just kill you anon.
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>>535868766
On the contrary if nobody is spending or giving money to the (((banks))) or god forbid pull from them then the mone runs out.
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>>535867711
I'm not totally against the idea. The way I see it, the worst elements of society already get gibs. Niggers, single mothers, etc. Might as well just even the playing field and give everyone equal gibs as a baseline.

But I also think that, if we were to do something like that, the money for these gibs shouldn't be coming from a general federal budget. It should be the tech giants, the AI companies, etc, who are taking everyone's jobs in the first place, that should have to pay for universal gibs. And these companies will always find accounting tricks to avoid paying taxes, so I think these taxes should be taken in the oldschool feudal manner. Tax collector rolls up and says "you niggers need to pony up this much money" regardless of what their profits or revenue was that year. Fuck you, pay me.
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>>535867711
It's a very good idea. I find the reasoning people use against it to be very exaggerated and immature.
>Noooo. It'll cause inflation!
Really? You mean like the inflation we have now without it?
>Noooo. People won't want to work anymore!
>So humanity always needed money to create things and work towards making life easier each other? 99% of human history is literally all of us laying around all day, hunting, having sex, and making things and money never had anything to do with it
>Noooo. We can't afford it!
The planet has more than enough space, food, water, and resources to help every single human being, people who think otherwise are just childish, lazy and keep thinking selfishly. Technology will be so efficient one day, you will be able to have more than enough. Think scientifically. Not politically.
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>why didn't the government help new orleans after katrina?
because all those people are trash
>why don't we have universal healthcare?
because we're all fucking trash
>why won't we ever get UBI ?
we be trash
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>>535870731
ill believe we can all just learn to swim when the israelis make peace with the palestinians
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>>535867711
Because other posters itt are inbred i will put it simply to you

Infinite money cannot buy a finite item

Get it? It's simple economy that most retards don't get

Next time i will teach you to not divide by zero
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>>535871169
Judging by the tone of your comment, I'm guessing you are using the conflict between the Palestinians and Israel as an excuse as to why humanity can't move forward. That's just nonsensical. All religions are false institutions that offer no real world solutions to fix humanity's problems. Humanity could fix itself tomorrow, if people decided to stop taking part in this global system of war, poverty, and mindless consumption. To be honest a UBI system isn't even a solution to fix major problems but if we wanted to make a system like that, we could and it would just be "the new way". People just choose to live in the current system because they don't know another, or care to create another.
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>>535867711
It's fine in theory, but in practice it has two problems:

1.) How to pay for it?
If everyone is paid a decent living wage to do nothing then the only people who will work are the pathologically greedy & the psychotically ambitious, and while it would be nice to tax those kinds of assholes to the hilt, there won't be enough of them to pay for everyone else. That means we'll need to tax corporations to pay for everything, but if governments have been trying to make them pay their taxes since corporations have been invented; so far without success.

2.) Idle hands are the devil's playthings.
Very broadly speaking, there are about three different kinds of people when it comes to reacting to being given infinite free time:
a.) The Busy Beavers.
People who don't really know how to be idle, and fill any free time with projects. Think of the newly retired man who throws himself into his hobbies or D.I.Y., for example.
b.) The Business Minders.
People who are happy minding their own business, and will happily sit playing computer games, watching Netflix and so-on. Not really doing anything constructive, but not making trouble either.
c.) The Bart Simpsons.
Unfortunately, there is a non-zero percentage of people who don't know how to be idle like the Busy Beavers, but have no interest in being constructive like the Business Minders. These people, if left to their own devices will be very destructive; committing acts of vandalism, getting into fights, doing drugs, drinking and committing petty crimes and in the fullness of time perhaps escalating to not-so-petty crimes.

Both of these problems need to be fixed before we institute universal basic income.
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>>535867711
It's not that it's bad, it's just that you're a fucking idiot to think kikes are going to give you free money instead of culling you.



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