what is the point of capitalism?
>>535881961to get rich signing other people up for debt
>>535881961To provide an incentive by which the Will can manifest more efficiently.
>>535881961are you 17? what an idiotic question.
To let individuals outside of government control maintain the economy and trade of the nation, which falls apart entirely once those individuals represent multi-national corporations only out to please shareholders long enough to swindle them.
>>535881961Did you look at the picture you posted?Because technically that is the endpoint, except it won't actually be just one guy, more like a couple thousand maybe.It would be one eventually if the system didn't collapse well before then.
>>535881961Woah cool it with the anti semitic remarks
>>535881961We’ve reached a point where it’s unnecessary and actually harmful. war war world war. greedy capitalists rubbing their hands.
>>535881961>what is the point of capitalism?Billionaires are financially irresponsible. Most people can live on a budget, not billionaire, they need the fancy life, large egos, deep insecurity.
You must understand, for a lot of the ultra rich it's not about being able to afford things you would enjoy and time off with your family and all that fuzzy shit. That's *your* idea of what rich is. Often, their idea is that *they* have, and you *don't* have, you not having anything (or very little) is what their goal is, it's for you to see them rich and them to see you, not having anything. Once you realize that some attitudes will make a lot more sense. Of course this is stupid and juvenile and would immediately collapse were it achieved, but they don't care, it's the reaching for that goal that's the goal in itself. Look at American boomers, it's an endless "Fuck you got mine!".
>>535882061reserve banking has some spurious issue observed if we are to analyse some of the suffering endured by humanity
>>535881961Benefit off of producing goods and services that people want.I always hear commies say take control of the means of production, while they don't seem to produce much.
>>535881961capitalism is a way to distribute resources in a somewhat fair way (99% of the time it is fair).it also provides incentive to work because humans are competitive and want more than others (communism solves this with lies and corruption instead).
>>535882108That's it I'm calling the police
>>535882152there are too many articles of consumption for that argument to be validbut is that a good and right thing
>>535882016thats an absurd theory and you should consider a vasectomy just for it alone
>>535882152You are believably stupid. Do you know what a working class person is?
Capitalism and democracy aren't perfect systemsThey are simply systems that proved superior to everything that came before them and competed with themFor instance, for most of the last couple millennia the greatest wealth 90%+ of humans could aspire to would be to own a single metal object; usually a shovel or axehead. People ended up getting conscripted and bringing nothing but that family tool to the war lol
>>535881961its just a blurry bullshit word
>>535881961Notionally free and fair trade and and compensation for goods and services.
>>535882189I don’t want to end up like Sweden, so I’ll pick communism instead.
>>535881961To determine who are winners and who are you.
>>535881961Efficient distribution of resources
>>535882211>thats an absurd theory and you should consider a vasectomy just for it alonechecked and (You)-do-not-appreciate-pilled.
>>535881961To pave the way for socialism.
>>535882214A cog in the machine.
>>535881961private property and relative free exchange of goods and services
>>535882290I long for the meat grinder unironically insarcastically
>>535881961I dunno, dopamine I suppose, people make these arbitrary lines on things and chase them, they'll even let you play a bit if you follow along in their games, "I'm better than you because X" is a pretty common theme throughout much of many people's lives, of course if you make it to the top well enough and "won" the games you made yourself, of which you cannot fail, what else is there but child rape and then eating them, or more accurately, playing games no one else can without serious consequences, yeah, the entire thing is actually pretty retarded.
>>535881961to make trannies and commies seethe.
>>535882263we're almost the same brother, don't know why you're acting like that
>>535882313>private propertyUntil Amazon needs your private property to build a sorting plant on. Then they just have the government take it from you. All crapitalists claim they love private property, until they want yours.
>>535881961capital - cap ital - capo ItalyIt's a system whereby the wops steal from everyone else.
>>535881961>capitalismNo longer exists, died and permanently went to heaven in 2008. After this, all HNW entities, corporations, sovereign governments, hedge funds, asset markets are totally dependent on endless infinite supplies of debt note fiat currency from private central banks to keep from instant worldwide implosion.Whatever this is rn 2009—2026, isn't capitalism.
>>535881961Capitalism is a system that is primarily organized around the profit motive, the red line must go up and other things are secondary to that, basically merchants are in charge rather than priests or warriors
The purpose is to motivate everyone to maximize production hoping to reach a point most never will.It is self correcting through supply and demand too. The harder everyone works or rather more the average person has in income the more everything costs.People work just enough for the necessities? Purchasing power is low keeping demand low.Everyone works more hours making more money? Buying power goes up, demand is higher, prices are higher, and everyone must work at least that hard just to get by.That is why when japanese were the most advanced working 14 hour days they had the same housing and possessions as americans working 8, but no free time.The harder your neighbors work the harder you must work for the same thing.
>>535881961Communism end game but for the 1%
>>535882450but that's not capitalism mr redditor
>>535882069I agree, we should just keep printing money so everyone can be rich.
>>535881961>what is the point of capitalism?Efficient and profitable production of supply to fill demand.
>>535881961to reach a level of investments where I can live just on the yields alone, assuming I spend reasonably.right now I'm getting about 25k/yr on average (a lot more these last years due to how retarded the markets are, kek).by the time I hit 40k, I'll retire and just live on that.
>>535882656an ideal projection of an ideal system ? seat ibizi 1995 tier supply and demand is now like a square wave plot actuated by predictive algorithms nightmare mode driven by the psychological phenomenon of felling like you've already bought something immaterially in your mind as well as in the physical worldYou've paid twice for the same thing or you've paid once for nothing
>>535881961To deprive the masses from material belongings so they readily accept socialism.
>>535882631That’s literally government policy except instead of giving money to everyone they give money to failed businesses so the economy doesn’t crash. This works great for papering over systemic issues but eventually the economy loses market rationality and basically turns into communism without the guaranteed employment or free commie block apartments for workers.
>>535882249I think things were better when we had kings.
>>535882867Too big to fail isnt capitalism. It is socialism
>>535881961Only k-selected people understand capitalism, niggers and genetic dead-ends are happy with stealing/begging, and living day to day like useless parasites.
>>535882894Yep, and it still fails anyway, just maybe later.
>>535882871I agree with this. Kings were no better than others BUT we could kill them in vengeance and replace them with another.
>>535881961To offer people personal manifest destiny.Unfortunately we live in a quagmire of corporate socialism, regulatory capture, and red tape.The world is fake and gay.
>>535882894No in socialism the government is too big to fail and businesses aren't, just look at the real estate bubble from China as an example, too big to fail is a logical end point for a monopoly or near monopolistic corporation, they have been so integrated with the states functions that the state will collapse without it, the debt is structured in a way that you cant have a recession without the entire system going down with it. The point of capitalism is the profit motive and for the red line to always go up not free market or whatever
>>535883112Kings actually were better usually. An elected official is elected by the masses who are mostly retards so the people who they elect also almost always retards or some type of psychopath that can manipulate retards. A king is pure luck of the draw which means a little less than half the time you get a good one, which is waaaaay better odds
>>535882152>Benefit off of producing goods and services that people want.Outside of necessities and otherwise simple frivolities, we only want what we are conditioned and convinced to want. Actual tribal niggers are happier and more content having absolutely nothing but their own community and children than we are in our infinite pursuit of useless knick-knacks of useless material bullshit that only temporarily gives us a dopamine hit.That is capitalism. The endless pursuit of the dopamine hit. Not Seratonin, or Oxytocin, or Vasopressin, in getting real shit done, and creating real bonds.If you support capitalistic materialsm, you support the Demiurge. If you support capitalism, you support the suppression of innovation, because capitalism does not, in fact, invigorate innovation. It actually, quite literally suppresses innovation, because the end result of capitalism is monopoly, and a monopoly has no interest in innovation, when the status quo yields the maximum profit results.I'm not saying that communism is the answer, but you must necessarily shed this dichotomy of capitalism vs. communism. There is in fact a third option...
>>535881961slavery.next question
>>535883346If you're going this rhetorical and philosophical/spiritual direction it concurs with what Ellul and TK wrote about. Industrial society (not an "-ism") is the core problem and per human organizational structures the only way to counter that is small, de-centralized communities. Centralization is at the core of 'dopamine hit', materialism, financial pursuits, monopoly, status quo, mass conditioning, yield maximization, all of that.
>>535883346Tribal niggers are happier but that’s because they don’t have to work very hard and get to have more sex. Their life is still largely a quest for successive dopamine hits but they accomplish this through carefree partying and fucking, which are their two biggest pastimes. They’re unhappy when times get rough though
>>535881961Capitalism is made up by communists.
>>535882017there are no stupid questions, only retarded brainrotten birthfailures who imply that age determines the potential informational quality of a question and the implications of its potential answers. with that, kindly reconsider the validity of your argument.
>>535883463The problem is that industrialism can physically crush decentralized societies on the battlefield, so unless you’re in a peripheral region that industrialists don’t feel the need to exploit heavily your life will be steamrolled
>>535881961The voluntary exchange of goods and services via markets.Previously, you either hunt or gather all of your food or used violence to take it from someone else.Are you twelve or brown?
>>535881961Rational time management in perpetuity; if you don't make good use of your liberty, someone else will.
>>535883463I agree 100%. In fact, it's the one aspect that I find the most trouble in getting people to understand. That despite us "leaving" tribalism", tribalism never left us. We are quite literally built for tribalism, small communities, where literally any economic system could work, because of familiarity.EVERY SINGLE system FAILS because of unfamiliarity. Tribalism can go through literally every historical system and just simply work, because that's the core of our being. Small communities whereupon we know each other all, and are able to utilize both reason and emotion both in equal measure for the most equitable outcome. Because at the end of the day, we are a tribe. A society is a large tribe whereupon many smaller tribes reside. All those tribes will eventually come to blows with each other because reasons.idk bro. I'm druk right now. I'm just flowing the muse rn. IDC if this makes sense. It makes sense to me right now.
>>535882214the caste society of modern american culture is completely separate from the concept of capitalism as someone who's largely worked assembly and cnc machineing his whole life, I think most faggots on the internet complaining about capitalism arw a bunch of communist faggotswe need a sane government that isnt full of corrupt pedophiles and then things like consumer protection laws, price fixing, monopoly prevention, ect would all actually be enforced.
>>535883591Basically what I am saying is that literally any conceivable modern system can work in a tribe, because tribes have something that society's do not. And that is accountability and personal guilt. Capitalism and communism both remove the human element of living. As long as you don't know that person across the state, the country, the world personally, you can rationalize and justify literally ANYTHING. Because you are SO FAR REMOVED that you do not feel or perceive the effect of what you have done outside of some abstract feeling which is so easily dismissed.But when it comes to your own tribe members, whom you grew up with, did everything with, and know everything about, you are forced to second guess yourself because you know intuitively that it is inherently wrong.That's the problem of modern systems. They remove the actual people, and convert them into abstract objects at your leisure.
>>535881961>what is the point of capitalism?1. it's not communism and literally everything elsemaking your brand of beer "not poison" just works2. when capitalism fails, tariffs become capitalism
>>535883726nah this entire post is so retarded im not even gonna try to dissect itbro you sound just sheltered as fuck, go find a church or volunteer somewhere, community doesnt inherently come from tribalism and society has done nothing but increase how much and how often humans work together as a team
>>535882049dude, its pointlessmoney is "digital" since decadesmoney does not exist anymore in the physical sense, its an illusion, a mutual agreement on accepting the money from the play-pretend shop of the kindergarden, everything in that regard was devalued. what remains is the pure supply and demand capabilities, and you can easily rule these if you have an abundance of manpower. example given; china. which unites all requirements needed to win by classical approach, have enough people, labor is cheap, manage smart and improve industry, outcompete trade, increase dependencies of foreign trade customers, this translates to diplomatic and political leverage,... and so on and so forthbad ecamples, have manpower but lack the rest, india has manmpower but a maximally retarded sociocultural superstitious band-aid of a managemant system, so they fallback to adapting to the weaknesses of the sociocultural and economic abundance elsewhere, by scamming ( exploiting these sociocultural and economic flaws ), similar to that but not as severely fucked because not that widespread and heavily indoctrinated is the african continent, which has the main problem of compartmentalization, i.e. lack of unity, something that india has but counterbalances with their caste system, tl:dr: africans can be easily transformed to form and hold functioning economies (example south africa, etc.), which leads me to the main point of my argument; europeans can not, they are as they say these days, non-flexible, i.e. tl:dr; they demand their rights, (if they know them, and that is the crux here). which makes them inconvenient to govern, they can not that easily be pushed around due to the rigidity of their system. which leaves you with only so much opportunities on how to deal them, in the industry this is called phase out, when a product is established on the market, like a well built long running washing machine, you have to pull advertisement and force the new model in for long term profit
>>535883858I will respond the exact same way to you. Because you are a fucking NIGGER who may be booksmart (if that) with ZERO experience in the real world. You have zero idea how easy tribes form, even in modern society. We only deny it, because we believe ourselves to be more "enlightened" than that.The fact that you admitted it in your post but also tried to argue against it tells me everything.What are we here at 4chan if not a (dysfunctional) tribe?Idiot.
>>535883858>community doesnt inherently come from tribalismTopkek, the state of this board, you should think about that statement again I think
>>535881961to provide services for others
Define capitalism. If we just define capitalism as freedom, then Capitalism is just having any natural human rights at all, the right to self ownership, the right to own your own property, and the right to voluntarily trade and associate with others.
>>535881961Unlimited growth.Market monopoly.Financial domination.
>>535881961control
>>535881961Why not go to venezuela and try communism OP? You can go right now.
>>535882152its a nice thought for a high-trust society where everyone wants to make the world better for everyone else but unfortunately only White people think this way
>>535885553Capitalism as of today is just a precursor to socialism/communism/bolshevikism.When reforms are demanded shills come out and call you commie. Big banks and socialist parties are in bed together. And they fear most rational reforms that establish a fair and open market. Monopolies were created through state regulation acvording to their needs.
>>535882556>pichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs
>>535881961Trying to buy off God so He doesn't throw your ass into hell.
re:>>535883903>>535882049oh and btw, this is the exact reason why there is such a heavy investment into universal-robots, aka. 'humanoid robots'these machines have the shape and are being engineered to have and surpass the capabilities of the human body, because their purpose is to replace the human body in the physical labor market.the big secret and part of why this development is being memoryholed heavily, is the question, and what happens to the humans then ?in that regard:think of cases like "the genocidaI BiII Gates", or "eviI Pharma/Chemcorp XY did ABC..." and similar doompilled grifter media slop are pure distraction, you can get a tiny little peek but the brunt of the effort planning is being done behind closed doors for good reasons, while awakened normies are busy self-feIIating their doom boners with the next virtue signalling "awareness alarm whistleblower" account on the "big social media" not noticing how they are being contained and held in a little box, like gerbils in a cage.
>>535882085This is actually validated by courts. Even with a prenup if you are worth like 10 billion and you have kids, child support will be in the millions every month because mom living out of a apartment and the kids eating peanut butter and jelly at her place while they dine on caviar on a yaht w/ dad isn't fair even tho its legally acceptable. Major financial status change very quick can lead to psychological damage to children - according to divorce attorneys and the psychiatrists they bribe to agree with them in court.
>>535885714Cool deflection bro, but why not go live in China and try communism? You can go right now.
>>535881961The point is that incentivizing productivity causes more productivity. Which it has. Look at how many inventions and successful companies came from capitalism. Capitalism has drastically improved the standard of living for billions of people worldwide.
>>535886977How about the parts of it that don't incentivize productivity and innovation?
>>535882085If billionaires bleed money doesn't that just mean their wealth will eventually trickle down?
>>535881961retarded. if he had every single dollar, people would still be trading cows and goods as a stand in for currency.
>>535882100Is there any good reason trump can't look like this?
>>535886977Modern socialist and communist retards hold a fraction of the ideological power that their political heros and founders had. All the original communists..>hated fags>thought that blacks didn't mesh well with Asian, Hispanic, and European society.>didn't trust the jew(even the jewish ones lol)>many supported gun rights such as Marx and ChePeople think that there is a greater amount of communists, marxists, etc..... than Third Position NS/Fash. This is not the case. There is actually very few communists and socialists because the prescribed followers are just brown people worshippers, gibs wanters, men bad, and gay shit should he everywhere people that think that they believe in communism just because they dont like capitalism. You think that a single communist leader wanted births to drop below 2.0? Communists wanted child births and a healthy social environment that worked like a well oiled machine. The modern day communist is actually more capitalist than communist lmao.
>>535887421the dude bought mcdonalds for people coming to the whitehouse, like it was a grand thing. imagine what he eats in private. childrens brains cant be that good for you
>>535886977>influencer or model makes $1 million a year>defense engineer working on top secret projects makes $100k-300k a year>software engineer on H1B undercuts jobs of domestic engineers by working for $70k a year>manufacturing gets offshored so shareholders can save money on labor paying workers $1/hr>bank exec gets paid $100 million in options by manipulating stock prices on tradesWhat productivity gets rewarded really?
>>535887676>>535886977And funniest of all>all the money you earn gets paid to landlords, banks, or inflated prices in goods and servicesProductivity?
>>535881961Literally, mass exploitation and suffering. Thats literally the end goal. Anything different is the result of moral guardrails forced on them.
>>535887676>men increase their productivity so they can afford to simp for an e-thotthe man is rewarded for his productivity by simping, which, as pathetic as it is, is what he wants.>H1B, offshoringnot good for Americans, but on a global scale, capitalism has helped billions of third-worlders.
>>535881961The point of capitalism is progress. Consolidation of resources is a necessity for progress. Even commies know this.
>>535887756I don't pay any money to landlords because I own my house>banksI own my house because the bank was willing to give me a loan, and I am now paying it back. I currently have about 70% of the equity in my house.>all the money you earnA lot of the money I earn goes to luxuries that only exist because of capitalism, such as a computer and internet to shitpost on 4chan, a TV, etc
>>535882871Your ancestors literally invented democracy you fucking retard
>>535887789Your point was that it incentivizes productivity, which it might, but my examples show how that's a distorted view. The real thing it incentivizes is exploitation. You can get productivity without the mass hoarding since it's obvious that an athlete produces less real utility than an engineer. You can claim that the feels of the simp or whatever are satisfied, but casinos and gambling sites and drug cartels also make a lot of money and are antiproductive in their effects. Maybe you can argue capitalism is inefficient, but it certainly doesn't prioritize incentivizing productivity.
>>535886868>Major financial status change very quick can lead to psychological damage to childrenBoo fucking hoo. I never had a childhood or youth or anything and neither should they. Life is pain and torture with drugs in between, it is by Gods' design, so we don't miss this shit after death and resurrection.
>>535887676>What productivity gets rewarded really?The productivity goes to pay for jew daycare job.
>>535887930Your view then is solipsistic and in contrast with what most people have reported and experienced. So you admit you have money, what do you say is the utility and productivity that you ever produced? I guarantee you what you did was nothing compared to what I've seen and still they report to me the same problems I described. So in short, fuck off.
>>535888022>it's obvious that an athlete produces less real utility than an engineer.how is it obvious? The athlete entertains millions. Are you saying there's no utility in entertainment? An individual engineer doesn't do much on the global scale, it's only the thousands of engineers together which do that and their pay combined is significant. Engineers who are innovative and inventive can become billionaires under capitalism.I am a productive worker because I am paid to be a productive worker. The alternative is communism, where people are productive because they go to jail otherwise. But under communism, people will only be productive enough to avoid jail, and will not be innovative because there is no incentive to be. Under capitalism, being more productive gets you more money, and being innovative can make you rich.
>>535887676you are so tiresomethe influence rmodel is a pied piper, bait role model to feed human traffickinghow many influencers or models are there ?the individual engineer is just one advanced wageslave how many engineers are there ?if you would like to make a point maybe you can compare "the poster child of online thottery and exhibitionism" with "the poster child of entrepreneurship and engineering" ? your skewed examples prove nothing and are deceptions that misrepresent reality.your implied question in regards to productivity is invalid because the prostitute always produces value, both the ethot/influencer/grifter and the engineer are prostitutes, always, some more some less to themselves, some more some less to others, but they all do something for the sake of some outcome, be it monetary gain or altruistic gain produced for the betterment of society, for the advancement of your nation in war, for ease of living, for mental health, etc. i know its lame, in the end even the insider trader is a prostitute, a shallow one but a prostitute, to themselves, their own greed, and that is where it all bopils down to. the human inherent characteristics, reocurring and seemingly a force of nature in itself, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, sloth, wrath, etc... these problems have been worded for millenia now, yet noone has found a solution for that. yet.except when you replace humans with a substitute that does not reproduce these behavioral flaws due to generational encoding...
>>535881961the point of capitalism hasn't changed since it was first invented to push peasants into the cities so that their labor was available to be extracted and to diminish the leverage/cost of all labor by flooding their market with an infinite supply of cheap replacements.that's why the immigration concerns are confusing.... this border has to be an impenetrable wall, this border has to be practically nonexistent.... but their capital movement concerns are straightforward.... free trade.
>>535882656That pivot point is also called maximal suffering.
>>535881961abuse everyone and everything around youif you arent living in a fishing village, trading fish or berries for services and hymen, you are living in hell
>>535887930>62%is that 401k? got the same thing here called superannuation and it's mandatory, everything is financialized, our countries run on debt
>>535888171>I am a lazy bum and am bad with money so I blame my problems on people who are not lazy and stupid like I am
>>535888178Yes I am saying plenty of engineers working in certain fields have been underpaid and that the athlete is only paid so much for entertaining the masses because they serve the purpose of attracting more expenses to the stadium owners and team managers who can market them. Like I said, you argued productivity, I'm saying it's about exploitation and is inefficient by nature of what people are able to assess value on because the athlete and model are more accessible and more easily extracts money from actual producers than the engineer who depends on a shareholder exclusively to assign them value. Unless you seriously think that a rocket scientist who produces real changes in defense that has seen impacts in world strategy is less valuable than an Onlyfans model because she "entertains millions"?
>>535888278401k is not mandatory. Social security is the mandatory one where the government takes part of your taxes and gives it to old people. Then when you get old, you get money that young people pay in taxes.But that's different from 401k (which is optional) and the stock market in general.
>>535881961low effort management strategy of human resources. that's it. It's totally broken in practice when you consider even basic shit like, Tragedy of the Commons.
>>535882656this is smoke and mirrors, supply and demand does not and has not ever mattered to any price.the suppliers vs demanders set the price.
>>535888295I am literally quite the opposite of a lazy bum and probably more well off than you, but I can also honestly assess the real situation rather than vague abstractions to justify my existence.
>>535888346More people want to give more money to the OF model than to the guy who makes missiles. If you want the missile guy to make more you can give to him instead of the OF model. Nobody forces you to simp for an OF model. And the men who pay the OF model are themselves more productive because they need the money for simping.I get it. You're a stupid lazy bum who is terrible with money and you're constantly poor because you keep wasting money on stupid shit. Capitalism is not a good system for stupid lazy people who are financially illiterate, but it's a great system for those of us who actually contribute to society and who are smart with our money.
>>535881961Not be a communist shithole.
>>535888433and now the lies and coping come into play lolnobody who owns a house or is actually productive would post anything like this >>535888171You're a lazy bum. Probably a pothead who got some useless meme degree. And you waste money on stupid shit (like pot and booze and probably OF models)
>>535888295interesting insightall of them will be factory workers living in ghettos
>>535888486America would be in a civil war within a month of being economically sieged in the way Cuba has been by America for decades.
>>535881961To let the goyim play in the real world
>>535888361>401k is not mandatoryit is if you plan on retiring and having a means of deferring taxes.
>>535881961to destroy humanity. No, im not joking.
>>535881961the illusion of choice, with respect to serving jewish masters.
>>535888589All of them.
>>535888722ebin
>>535881961To scam other to either work for cheaper than their labour is worth or to trick suckers to buy you snake oil.All the phones they make and don't sell get sold for less value eventually no one wants them.wasted resources to trick goyim to buy you snake oil that the need the latest.
>>535888467I think people can assess from your own words for themselves. You still haven't answered for the drug cartels, gambling sites for what productivity they incentivize other than extracting money from those that do produce things. Anyways, this has been a fun waste of time, thanks for "incentivizing my productivity"!>>535888517Anyways, all you have is name calling without any substance and are just self reporting on what you think about spending money on. False on all your accusations.
>>535887930Computers and Internet were invented by you tax dollars for the military same with the microwave.
>>535881978Fpbp
>>535881978EASY WITH THE KIKE HATRED
>>535888205nice pic, thank you, doe
>>535882189>99% of the time it is fairNo way people actually believe this. Every single transaction an average person makes is designed to gouge them of their life force. Every tax, every house payment, every carrot from the grocery store isn't priced at what is "fair" but at whatever the maximum is they can get away with. There might have a point where some people were charging fair prices, but all of that changed once computers could run statistical analysis for mega corps.
>>535881961so we can easily attain chili (with or without beans, we are still brothers and sisters)
>>535891449Grow your own carrots and hunt your own meat. You can only go to a grocery store to grab a carrot because of capitalism
>>535891449commies like you eventually get pic related
>>535882749>>The dream is to live off interest and let the goyim work
>>535881961>REEEEE I WANT TO BE RICH Why are socialists so obsessed about money?Literally no one said you're supposed to be giga rich under capitalism. Seriously, no one did. Think about it. When did anyone said it? You don't remember, it never happened. You fabricated that memory.I think maybe....what happened is.... in the 90s some of those retard songs for kids had the theme "you can do anything if you believe in you're self" and then <90 IQ midwits thought they'd be rich all of a sudden. They really thought it was some sort of deal, put in a little effort and become giga rich. LOL! FUCK YOU, and upon finding it's not so easy to be a trillionaire... they think they got played or something. Someone lied. And now the hate billionaires and want to tax the rich, UNLESS of course for some miracle they get wealthy then they don't want to pay a fucking dime in taxes. What a bunch of fuckwits.Capitalism is about realizing private property is about the most important right you can defend for your own dignity and it's the actual fairness. What is yours, it's yours, period. It's the logic of consensual exchange. CONSENSUAL.Socialism is the opposite..... socialism be like "what is yours is.... mine.. mayhaps?" Socialism is the rape economic model, non-consensual exchanges. (rape)Capitalism is verry important because money has a 'tendency' to flow towards people with know-how and skill and drive to produce. This is because (You) tend to put your money on those things, thus the flow happens. It's a dendency, not a hard rule. This means capitalism favors creation of goods and services that you want.çMeanwhile socialism favors dumb shit,... ministries, LGTB programs, gayness in general.. it favors AOC big tiddies and more money for Israel. All the things you didn't ask for, socialism got you covered.
>>535891789>the only people that criticize capitalism are communistsIt must just be a coincidence that the fast food companies made record profits the month they increased wages of fast food workers in california. It has nothing to do with the fact they doubled the price of their menus "to make up for it".
>>535891449>Every single transaction an average person makes is designed to gouge them of their life forceyou are an unproductive resentful lazy loser who has nothing of value to offer but feels entitled to everything i.e. a commie
>>535892318this was meant here>>535892178
>>535892318And you are a corpo salad tosser that specifically love the flavor of Jewish feces.
>>535892483>da joos made me a losersame old story
>>535891449Every single thing you think is not fair is covered by that 1%.In fact I wrote it like that to see if someone with perhaps a little low brain capacity would fall for the trap by commenting on it.
>>535886274Correct Hans, you've been paying attention to my posts here.Every anon scrolling itt needs to watch Hans' video
>>535892526>damage control for kikes in 2026ick
>>535888467>staunch defender of the status quo, upon being pressed 1 time by a rational person, masks off and is actually just a crude hedonist that hurls insults and accusations of being poor and bad with money or whateverMany, many, MANY such cases.
>>535889072Watching your interaction with that stooge was like watching someone try to converse with a brick wall, good on you for trying to actually appeal to reason on a human level but it's clear he's neck deep in the hedonist lolbert mud. True cognitive dissonance in the wild is a sight to behold.
>>535882871bro your country spend half of the last millenium under turks
>>535882100We could all be wealthy, comfortable, with no needs unmet and some greedy kike would think he's poor because everyone has what he does.
this thread is a good reminder why we just throw commies out of helicopters. they are too stupid to ever understand
>>535881961You have the greatest ability to grow under the free market. The possibility for self determination is nearly nonexistent under other policies. The utopian claims of other systems fall on their face under any honest scrutiny. You cannot tax into wealth, people will always care about themselves more than others as a whole, and nothing is ever free.
Capitalism is eugenics, one hundred percent of capitalist theorists are against welfare and so should you if you hate obese diabetic negress living on the mercy of taxpayers and corporates whose assets bubble thanks to government interventions in market through credit expansion, subsidies, etc.
>>535894790Probably the primary value these threads have is just to see that. There's a lot of spiteful status quo defenders with kneejerk reactions, even on /pol/.
>>535895384The "free market" doesn't exist. You need a system to enforce ownership in a capitalist society which means funding for police, and a legal system. Its about as far away from a naturalistic system as possible.
>>535892526>da jooskike
>>535895097
>>535881961Capitalism has not even existed in generations. The modern world operates under finacialism (Judaism).
>>535895097Or.
Whats the end point of extracting profit from cattle?
>>535895806Lol, I love that people still cling to Trump like this. Your hopeless, irrational optimism warms my heart.
>>535896016Do you ask a lot of questions you already know the answer to?
>>535895701I dont deny need for some government services, but they should exist to protect individual rights, defend against threats foreign and domestic, or build and maintain infrastructure. Most of the rest of it is just waste, fraud, and corruption.
>>535896016Honest question, moshe. jews have historically profited from the labor of goyim, then fled to another country once the Ponzi scheme became intolerable for the native group to sustain. Essentially, jewish carpetbaggers left town days before the mob with torches and pitchforks came knocking at their door. Where do you think jews will attempt to flee to this time, as they have been running a global ponzi scheme?
>>535896062Nothing wrong with optimism. Beats being a cynical, nihilistic, twat. Trump isn't extreme enough though. I'd like to see the levels of deportations that the soviets or nazis would have been proud of, or maybe even rounding up of some judges and AGs who release the violent to be imprisoned or executed.
>>535882211He's right, you retard.>>535882016Based. What you call the will I call thermodynamics and the principle of least action. The world is moving towards a high energy rate density for its forms and we are the agents of this. Schopenhauer will unironically be remembered for his brilliance in detecting this.
>>535881961to make pajeets and communists seethe
>>535881961Same as communism, the optimal allocation of resources.Capitalism is just better at it than communism because capitalism relies on natural forces while communism tries to force the market to conform to the will of dictators
>>535882049Yeah, high school is pretty tough.Stick with it though champ!
>>535881961Capitalism is the evolution of the monarchy. However, capitalism removes the onus of responsibility from a royal bloodline and disperses it onto the noble elect ie corporate execs, investors, and board members. The monarchy got tired of losing their head in rebellions from the peasant class. They were too easy a target because power concentrated solely on them.
>>535881961make everybody rich, duh
>>535882189Fairness is an artificial and arbitrary concept that the free market does not recognize.In a free market, the value of any good or service is what another is willing to pay for it.Therefore by definition all voluntary transactions are fair since both parties agreed to the terms.This is why arguments about minimum wage are so frustrating.Your labor is only worth what someone is willing to pay you for it.If you cant find work that pays you as much as you fell you need or deserve it is unirronically a skill issue.No amount of legislation will make your labor more valuable, it just drives the value of the currency down to match the value of your labor.
>>535882100This.
>>535881961now he can fuck as many as he wants
>>535881961The point is economic interests resulting in a self sustaining loop. But like all systems before it capitalism will change as production technology advances.
>>535887351no, and even if it did the money goes straight back to the rich. the working class/working poor or whatever you want to call them spend their money on rent, food, utilities etc. and that goes to the owners of the companies. the rent doesn't go to a nice older lady whose annex you're renting, now it's owned by Blackrock and part of a REIT, the REIT again is owned by the higher classes who have money left over to buy assets.The food is owned by multinationals too, utilities the same. The beef I can actually afford to buy is imported from Nigera ffs, that's money going abroad, then to whoever owns the container ship it's sent on, then to one of the two giant food companies we have thanks to a retarded duopoly. I fucking hate capitalism and the policies that keep us poor.
>>535882016The Pringles motto is "once you pop, the fun don't stop". Schopenhauer is a retard for not knowing this.
To help pass the time
>>535891877the dream is choosing what to spend your time doing. the way the system is set up this is the only reasonable way of doing it.
>>535881961To raise the largest number people out of abject poverty. And it has worked tremendously.
>>535896016What do they use the profits for?Communism is a collection of half-formed ideas.>the capitalists exploit the workers to claim all the profits>what do they do with those profits?>...
>>535897874That is not the goal, that is the natural effect.
>>535881961>Dollar>Gold
>>535883051>gypsi talking about useless parasiteslol
this image doesnt really make sense. the point of capitalism is that more wealth can be created. its not finite
>>535881961Only the government and people that work in the government should own anything. Everyone else should just do what the government says
It was to create as many blueprints as possible for our makers so now we can have Kirin and Maccies without leaving our introGod homesteads
>>535895887the post-1970s global economy is Financialized: >>535897767 <--Readhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinancializationCapitalism permanently ended in year 2008: >>535882556 <---------It no longer exists.
>>535883544uh-oh, commie brainlet got triggered.
To arrive quickly at Fascism.
>>535881961>1PBTID shill nonsense questionregardless the answer for any economic system is to allocate resources
>>535896740It appears to do so brilliantly, actually. And it gives the monarchy "plausible deniability" when the shit hits the fan.
There should be a techno monarchy with me as King >>535898797Also promising cloned virgin brides for all men as so to punish women for refusing to understand how they threw their value away
>>535891889My take on this is that chaos actually rules. Not chaos in the terms of big fish eats little fish, but chaos in the idea that one stupid meme frog can change the entire world for better or worse. Capitalism? Communism? That is soooo 21st Century! We don't know Novelty because it's not happened yet. Although I do like "Brave New World" if only it would be a little more environmentally friendly.
Nay, a harem of women. No diversity and 3 women to every manWomen's stock will plummet to the negative and men can finally enjoy building bicycle highways with machines not doing backbreaking labor but stuff they enjoy cause all needs are met
>>535899100Second the motion. That way I can retire as a German as Second Language Teacher in Montana.
>>535882211>digitsGotta a better theory there hans?Lets have it.
>>535899293And there will be castles carved out of the mountains everywhere improving the view and offering insightful tours educating people about historical facts as well as including classical art and music
>>535882786>peak midwitSo many words yet unable to disprove concept
to create a slave class of goyim
>>535883311>litterally proves the pointThe govt bailed out the banks because the govt deemed it soFull stop, end of story.
>>535888231yes, infight goyim>>535888346wrong. Famous people are highly paid in order to vprovide circus to the masses and prevent revolts, and to serve as a microphone for propagandathis is monetary and about business just like woke video games areWoke video games are the tip of the iceberg. jews have been spending money on propaganda for no monetary gain for a long timeUltimately they steal it from you so its not even theirs, they dont really lose anything. They have enough money, the next step is your mind
>>535887756>does not mention taxes which are takenGet a load of this fag
>>535884234The people that drew these comics in the late 19th and early 20th centuries were so absolutely fucking lame and washed up. Total bores
>>535881961It’s about power not money. You are low-iq if you think it’s about money or even that money is the root of all people.
>>535887067How about the parts of any human endeavor or organization that aren’t perfect?
>>535898932>'allocate resources'post-1970s global economy is Financialized >>535898850>>535897767 <--Readhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financializationentirely walled off from the Real Economy of goods-service-commoditiesAll wealth today is generated from (no, not 'work', 'capital' or 'labor') *speculative debt instruments* <---Most corporations today shovel their profits into—no, not capital improvements of their own brand, services, or manufacturing output—stock buybacks to artificially boost their own share values.Corporations' own brand/service/product, their output may as well not even exist at all. (Applies also to the entire global Financialized economy: product, "the thing" is irrelevant) Only thing that matters is how much they profit *off of money itself alone*<--not the widget that they produce/sellFirst you need to learn what money is and how it is created: 97% Owned — How is money createdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating — basically making money from money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."— Nick Dearden, quoted in the film '97% Owned'
>>535888171>so many wordsYou are lazy, you not capable of contributing anything meanigful, foe any amount of compensation. You recogonize the fact that you live off of others directly and indirectly, and project that everyone is as useless as you. How close to the mark am I?
>>535882656The intersection is maximal sustained suffering.
>>535881961Hve you ever played monopoly? It's to fuck over other people until you realize you don't have anyone else to fuck over and is game over.
>>535891889hey third worlder. you re a third worlder, typin boring walls of texts wont make u smarter. unleashed capitalism and communism are the same shit. socialism is balance.if fake free will is fair then the jews did nothing wrong. and they did wrong. so go fuck yourself. propaganda is an act of war, so is deceit and manipulation with bad intentpeople are also retarded with money so making a pot to make sure we dont suander it by badly allocating so we can get surgery when we need it is a good thing. of course kikes take it to an extreme for obvious reason and then move to the opposuite extreme like you do, create the crisis offer the solutiontldr : retard
>>535882189I'm selling lemonade and cow piss at the same price in the same package. You buy both. Free market homie, certified kosher.
>>535881961owning shit and making the poors mald over it.It's worked wonders for centuries.
>>535896405Mars.
>>535899984got you to read my wall of text (fell for it again award lol!!)capitalism =/= anarcho capitalismyou are right that taken to the extreme capitalism doesn't even make sense... who keeps track of private property? don't confuse capitalism with anarchyThat doesn't mean that capitalism philosophy is wrong. You can't redistribute scarcity, you need to produce, and anyone who has actually done anything at all knows that producing is a tight margin operation people perfect over a lifetime, sometimes several lifetimes
>>535882100It’s literally “making up for having a tiny dick” energy The tiniest dicks are the most maniacal
>>535900277then it's over for the kikes, Elon Musk has a track record of over-promising and under-delivering
>>535900852in the worst case they ll just orbit around earth until it cools down playing ff tactics on a custom gba and rechargeable batteries with a handcrankdesert people can survive years drinking their own piss over and over
>>535882249ahistorical nonsense spewed by jews to convince you that present moment is the best possible moment
>>535881961Owning capital such as land. It's great when it works and isn't an Israeli pyramid scheme. Also it's great when you put in labor protections that are followed.
>>535881961Freedom of choice.
