You can hear this bullshit in the news, podcasts, scientific articles,...Do you know how hard is trying to put datacenters in space? It would be easier to put them on top of the fucking Everest for all that matter.This goes to show you how fucking retarded people are.
>>535893401I started it. I'm really sorry about that.
>>535893401i makes this idea look sane by comparison
>>535893401from 2011 to 2022 i worked with no less than a dozen people who thought "the cloud" meant data was actually being sent to and stored somewhere in the sky. idiots are usually eventually correct and you should pay attention to them and capitalize off the foolishness.
>>535893401Don't they need to be able to upload and download tremendous amounts of data ultra-fast, that wireless would be insufficient for?
>>535893401It would be cheaper and infinitely better to build datacenters in the arctic instead.
>>535893401From billionaires of course, who else would have such shit for brains?One of the biggest logistical nightmares of "datacenters" is heat dissipation, something which is incredibly hard to manage in space where your only option is radiating the excess heat away.The only group of men dumber than billionaires are politicians.
They're afraid of their slaves revolting. If it's in space, you can't stop it.
financefags are illiterate subhumans they actually believe it
>>535893451Respectfully speaking, I don’t quite understand why modern Russians worship the tsar of old. He was a terrible person if im not mistaken. Can someone explain it to me?
>>535893925Or is it?
You literally just send them to space. It's not that hard
>>535893401Because it's the only plausible solution. We aren't going to cover 75% of the earths surface in data centers
>>535893979I don't know...
>>535893401>Do you know how hard is trying to put datacenters in space?In First World countries, we build rockets>>535893576>Don't they need to be able to upload and download tremendous amounts of data ultra-fast, that wireless would be insufficient for?They mostly need to compute information ultra fast. Starlink exists for the input/output. More important, there's infinite free energy up there >>535893821>radiating the excess heat away.Yes, sizing a radiator is trivial compared to the engineering needed to put it up there, which we already have
the economy has collapsed that is where all this data center nonsense comes from not just "in space" all of it, AI as well its all just to pump money into the economy and keep it on life support, because somehow (and not for lack of trying) they haven't been able to kick off WW3
>>535893979>He was a terrible person if im not mistakenDid you read history written by goy or jew?
>>535894097Maybe it’s an orthodox thing. My hohol roommate told me they don’t celebrate easter and they are different from the west.
The only advantage data centers have in space is the free solar energy, which wouldn't be that much because despite it being more powerful up there, it would still be not enough to power them. Everything else is absolutely fucked, specially cooling since there is nowhere to vent heat unless you depend on passive IR radiation which is bitch weak in space.Space data center would be underpowered, fragile, will be cooking themselves and would be way expensive than on Earth, at least energy would be free. The only reason to put them there is to grift more retards because after being several trillion in, the first investors need more trilliona from retards so they can cash out and rugpull their way out of that mess before everything goes to shit.
>>535893552yep someone told me i was stupid for thinking data couldn't just be floating in the air because "how would wifi and cell signals work?".they refused to listen when i explained that's akin to trying to store a cup of water dyed blue in a water main. you can send your blue water into it no problem, but you're not scooping up a cup of blue water when you decide you need it back.
>>535893401It ain't that hard to launch satellites anymore.
>>535893979I don't think anyone worships him. He's an official martyr in their church> terrible person If he had been, he and his family wouldn't have been shot by Jews in a basement>>535894418Every so often I'm reminded by third world countries are third world
>>535894051oooorrrrr it won't ever happen because AGI actually isn't possible no matter how many datacenters we have
>>535894124space is a near vacuum. we use vacuums to isolate heat. you can't just build a normal sized radiator, stick it on a rocket, and transfer heat into nothing.
>>535894495>Every so often I'm reminded by third world countries are third worldand i'm constantly reminded that self-claimed smart people are actually retards incapable of proofreading a single sentence.
>>535893401Its not that hard, its just pointless. The two main problems with datacenters are energy requirements and cooling, one is easy outside atmo, the other is very hard. Also once you solve those problems you are still at risk of charged particles fucking up your data storage, not usually a huge problem, but if your entire banking system goes into it...
>>535893401Put them or orbit is easy, cooling thermodynamics aren't. Maybe Elon thinks that the space is "cold" lmao
>>535894124Lol no, retard.Data centers literally waste +99% of the energy they use as heat since there are no moving parts doing any work or anything.A 200mw data centers produces 200mw of heat.You do not have a passive radiator that works only with IR radiation emissions big enough to cool that shit in any considerable timeframe, retard nigger gorilla. You would need shit orders of magnitudes bigger than the data center itself to attempt to cool it down. That shit would glow so fucking bright from the heat in space you would see it as a star and shit would cook inside before it could cool anything.
>>535894522>>535894587>dur de durrr radiator hard>you can't just build a normal sized radiator, stick it on a rocket, and transfer heat into nothing.Yes, I know. I also know, because I'm not an idiot, that this problem has been solved for decades. Did you know at this very minute there's a big magic space station in the sky? It generates a lot of heat and easily radiates it away
>>535894254It’s a religious thing not literal monarchism or political it says online.>>535894495The Russian Orthodoxy made them «passion bearers» after their execution.
>>535893401If you put them on everest they would melt everest. The issue billionaires are solving with servers in space is heat. And elon is willing to sacrifice millions of you to build it.
>>535894587He's the biggest retard out here somehow and there are a bunch of other burgers arguing for this shit.I guess everyday a fool is indeed born, and it seems most are born in jewsa.
>>535893401It's for missile defense.
>>535894773>It generates a lot of heat and easily radiates it awayit generates as little heat as possible and has enormous fins for dissapating that small amount of heat.how the fuck is a datacenter (which can cause water shortages on earth when using LIQUID COOLING, which is insanely efficient) going to dissapate all that heat without being strapped to a station 10x the size of the actual functional portion?
>>535894730>Maybe Elon thinks that the space is "cold" lmaoElon thinks he can use science fiction snake oil to shitjeet and raperat investors out of their resources, and he is correct because the finance world is shameless niggerology with no standards and it tolerates shitjeet scammerism
>>535893401its just gay pop science articles. On par with green energy and the like. Make up some fanciful idea and just assume we will magically invent the tech later on in the future. Hell elon musk made a trillion dollars off this scam.
>>535893401
>>535895022HYPERLOOP BRONO AIR RESISTANCEYOU USE A 'VACUUM' AT HOME ALL THE TIME, WE'LL JUST MAKE A BIG ONE IN A TUNNEL EZPZ
>>535893401Better question, why the fuck isn't everyone directing AI resources towards finding a solution to the cooling problem? If they find a more resource-efficient cooling method they can cut the cost and environmental impact of these centers by an order of magnitude.
heat radiates very poorly in space so yes the idea is retarded>>535894773yes but space station doesn't have 250.000 reticle-limit sized NVIDIA GPU's churning through 500W each.
The CEO of Nvidia flouted the idea. Because he knows his products are astronomically difficult to cool because they consume so much power.
>>535894773>>535894991>they still think the ISS is real>laughing girls pepe spaghetti.mp4
>>535894764>no gringo the radiator would be big :(((((I know your """"country"""" only exists because whites came and dug a trench through it, hilarious because it means the entire reason for Panama's existence is because we came and got rid of a bunch of Panama, but trust me, whites know how to engineer stuff, and the stuff that seems confusing and impossible to your brown beaner "mind" is actually no big deal to us.For ISS-style panels, you'd need ~35m^2 panels per MW with chips at 77C. At 83-85C, around half, though with consumer silicon that'll reduce lifespan. It's easy to build the chips to run a little hotter, or take the tradeoff in reduced lifespan. Also, ODCs will likely use something like liquid-drop cooling to massively reduce mass>>535894991>which can cause water shortages on earth when using LIQUID COOLING, which is insanely efficient>water shortagesHoly shit anon, you like the Panama beaner are an excellent example of why your country is so poor
They are so expensive and vulnerable it is safer and worth it to them to take every thing from us and invest it in launching it as far as possible away from as possible since the only thing u need access is a password and antennaalso it will cost so much to shield the electronics from radiation and single event upsets in the transistorsalso the semiconductors will fail anyway from migration of atoms over time from thermal stressesso there is a MTBF of the entire data center, it will degrade in its performance over time that way until a critical failurethen it is a empty floating pile of junk until they are able to enslave and trick us into enough resources to go out and fix it for them
>>535894773Nigga that's a small ass space station segment that is mostly some small labs and living space, look at the size of that radiatir compared to the overall workable structure. That shit produces orders of magnitude less heat than a data center, hence why you need orders of magnitude bigger radiators to try to cool down a 200mw data center. Not to mention that would need the area of solar panels to supply 200mw of energy and store said energy whenever the structure is in Earth's shadow.Just by the size alone you would be cooked by the Sun, let alone the internaal heat. It's a losing game to try to cool shit passively in space because the bigger you go, the more you heat by the sun. The more you avoid the sun, the less energy you have to actually do anything.Nigga, you retarded
>>535893401It's just a continuation of orbital solar. Solar panels have to deal with nighttime interrupting power, adverse weather that can damage the panels, and the atmosphere filters sunlight before it hits earth. Building panels in space will fix all of these so it massively improves their efficiency. However, this never went anywhere because there's no real way to get that power back down to Earth. You have as much electricity as you want, but it's all 200km away from where you want to use it.Orbital datacenters can, at least in theory, fix this problem by giving companies something to do with that electricity in space. They don't need to beam down the energy if it's all used in orbit.That said, the plan is obviously shit for reasons which have been said itt, including how hard it is to cool shit down in space and the high cost of putting shit in orbit. Richfags pushing this are either grifting or banking on electricity costs increasing massively.
>>535895114trust me bro when, in a discussion about data centers, I say the ISS generates 'a lot' of heat.like a fucking child arguing for a pet elephant>rocky eats a lot and we keep him around, we could feed an elephant easy, food isn't the complicated part
>>535894773The entire space station uses under 100 kW. Even a medium computing cluster would be 100 MW.
>>535895171It’s literally just Elon trying to double dip on his ai and spacex scams. Retards still listen to him.
>>535894991There are no space constraints in space. You can totally fan something out for 100 miles and it won't matter
>>535895153you absolute fuckwit my point was that we struggle to cool these things using water and you're expecting to cool one with *nothing*
>>535895232naw bro it totally makes 'a lot' of heat so a datacenter is trivial. OR YOU ARE POOR! POOOOORRRR!
>>535895312>100 miles of structurally sound radiating materialso why is your rich country still lacking a space elevator? explain to the poor people in the room.
>>535895114>yes but space station doesn't have 250.000 reticle-limit sized NVIDIA GPU's churning through 500W each.Sure, but you're talking about a problem of scaling. With 1990s radiators and consumer chips, you need 35x35m of radiator per MW consumption if you want those chips at a nice stable 77C. That's it. If you can run the chips a little hotter, that shrinks. There's lots of room in space. LDRs cut the mass by 80-90%Radiating the heat away is literally the most trivial part of engineering an orbital data center. It's nuts to hear people who've never even played Kerbal Space Program smugly declaring the literal easiest part of engineering orbital data centers to be totally impossibleIt's like retards saying Mars colonies are impossible because it's cold there and there's no magnetosphere.
>>535895312>>535894991u will need ion cooling method in space u need also mass collection or like a asteroid this is thermodynamics bro
What do we need this compute for? AGI is hundreds of years away, just like fusion power.
>>535893401Would Mount Everest provide sufficient cooling?
>>535895415Anon I didn't mean literally, I just mean, building something space-inefficient is fine in space. You can build otherwise absurd structures. Filaments that fan out for miles. Narrow, rigid things that would snap on earth, don't snap in orbit. It's like a whole different pandora's box of design opened up to you.
>>535893401It's not hard, just put the server on a space x rocket and launch it into space
>>535893401It's retarded futurists like musk and others spewing AI nonsense yeah we will all be living lives of pleasure and luxury on the moon while robots do all the work buildinf helium 3 spires of unlimited energy or somethingThese people are a cult. AI is a cult. It's literally not evidence based at all. These datacenters are a huge gamble to create AGI, they know it's not gonna work but they must go all in extending and pretending
>>535894051electronics in space wouldnt function because there is no oxygen
>>535895529Just build em in the Antarctic and let them air cool at -80F.
>>535895313>we struggle to cool these things using waterWe don't, you can tell because the internet works. Also, and I'll explain this to you in the way I would to a moderately bright 8-year-old so hopefully you can understand, water in terrestrial cooling does not cool anything. It transfers heat from one place to another. We use water in most data centers because it's pretty good at transferring and carrying heat, and because it is unbelievably abundant and cheap>you're expecting to cool one with *nothing*You are making the classic Stupid Person mistake, which is to confuse you not understanding something with it being impossible or magic
>>535895529Would vacuum? Midwit
>>535893401Its so the plebs can touch them when we build Elisium.The future is gonna be so comfy.
>>535895637No I'm unironically asking if we should build them high-altitude so the ambient temperature can cool it without having the feed the center a lake.
AI is the greatest financial scam in the history of human civilization.Global debt market is about to implode. There aren't going to be any 'muh datacenters' they're vaporware
LEO would be too heavy and cost too much in station keeping and have a limited life without constant repair missions, meo or geo orbit would have to be incredibly shielded or you are getting bit flips from cosmic rays, making the whole purpose invalid
>>535895312Maybe in deep space, but in Earth's orbit the larger your station is the more you have to worry about some stupid piece of space junk smacking into it.
The only place anywhere in space close to Earth you could possibly make data centers is the Moon by pumping the heat directly into the Moon and powering them through a combination of nuclear and solar power. Anything else will be cooked immediately by either the sun through the size of the shit or by the heat produced by the center itself.>>535895529No, air too thin. Cold but thin.
im getting a headache reading these
>>535895690I think this is an under-appreciated point. Shielding from cosmic rays and solar particles makes the whole mess even more expensive and massive, but for the guy selling the rockets that’s a good thing.
>>535895048Wtf Chris-Chan was involved in paypal?
>>535895744>The only place anywhere in space close to Earth you could possibly make data centers is the Moon by pumping the heat directly into the Moon and powering them through a combination of nuclear and solar power. Anything else will be cooked immediately by either the sun through the size of the shit or by the heat produced by the center itself.Do you ever look around the shithole you live in and wonder: "Why are white countries so nice and clean, and everything here is smoky and crumbling and falling apart?"It's because you don't understand how anything interesting works
>>535895579Pursuing the future is not a bad idea but this shit is indeed a cult that worships ideas, sells hope and reaps shekels from retards that fall for it.I am 100% sure musk himself started shilling the idea of him being "the real ironman" when he has never invented anything himself or anything that actually was new. He just threw ideas into the air, hired a bunch of retarded engis to pretend to be working on it while taking shekels from the retards willing to waste on hopium.Fools are still waiting for that hyperloop
>>535893401Yeah, but think how much venture capital you could squeeze out of suckers by suggesting something as wicked expensive as putting data centers in space!
>>535893401According to ChatGPT the idea it self is pretty old, dating as far back as the 40's in science fiction writings. And from there onwards the concept of having various things in space using solar power has been around in various forms. The more specific datasenters in space thing that we seen the last months/years might be popularized by in part one company that has really taken it serious and started working towards it, which is Starcloud. They already have a small test senter going around earth in orbit. The reason it has become so popular lately is because the idea is actually a good idea. It works, it makes sense. Because of Elon and SpaceX rocket technology is making it cheaper to get things up in to space and that makes a whole bunch of things possible to do. Computation run by solar power is one of those.>>535893821>From billionaires of courseThat is not true. It does not come from them. They have just realized that this is a good idea and something that will happen so they hopped on the train. Especially Bezos is just a copycat. The idea it self comes from science fictions writers and forward thinkers and then companies like Starcloud that actually went for it and then after that people like Elon and and then Bezos realized this is a golden opportunity. The best orbit around earth for getting sunlight 24/7 is limited so its a bit of a competition of getting that orbital path first. Its all just a matter of time waiting for the technology to advance.
>>535895730Lol you serious? Picture the surface area of the earth, including all the oceans. Now increase by 20%. Now imagine there's a 3rd dimension to work with, multiple shells you can exist on. That's the kind of area we're talking about
>>535895685Cooling power/Heating power is the temparature difference multiplied by the total mass of the cooling/heating fluid. Air is a literal insulator. Its made of n2 which is a gas at stp. At high altitude, the pressure drops, so the temparature drops. But now you need to flow larger volumes to get the same performance.Its like engineers thought about this and decided to use highly dense water cooling towers to change the phase of water all the way from liquid to gas in order to pump the most amount of waste heat into water and reject the leftover heat into the rivers.
>>535895579That the only person who agreed with you is the retarded beaner, who thinks you can't radiate heat in space, should give you pauseAI is about to cut the price of a lot of goods significantly, and reduce the price of a lot of services to "basically free"Smart robots doing work is actually a pretty small step compared to what we've already done
For DATA centers to be in space the signal would have to be strong enough to fry people and start fires
>>535896107Thank fucking God, a First Worlder
>>535895423problem with that is running them hotter decreases the lifetime significantly after a certain point, and good luck sending a technician to replace cards when they fry or they're outdated in a few years
>>535896127Ai isn't good nna do any of that. If you think hooking up millions of video cards running 24:7 analyzing places like reddit and Twitter are gonna solve every world issue and question and create some sort utopia you are fucking retarded or just invested in the scam yourself.
>>535896127So you think nuclear reactors in space who's orbit will eventuallly degrade and crash would be a good idea?Cause you aint powering them with just solar. The energy consumption of the transmitter alone would be massive
>>535895153ISS radiators handle 70 kW of waste heat and have a surface area of 7000 square feet. you would need an enormous number of radiators to handle the waste heat from a data center.
>>535896177>problem with that is running them hotter decreases the lifetime significantly after a certain pointSure, but that's just a math-finance problem. If you shorten the life of the chips by a couple of years but save 20% of mass, then you just have to spreadsheet the reduced operating lifespan vs the flat rate cost of building it and putting it in orbit and decide if it makes sense, since basically once it's up there it operates on free electricity until it stops workingThen of course you have to figure out what you even want the lifespan to be, because down here on Earth the state of the art will be advancing nonstop
>>535895909Also this. Data centers and severs use specially rams on Earth because the random solar and cosmic radiation will hit a single contact inside the chip and either create false data or kill the data. Special rams "fix" this by creating a sort of backup that gets repaired after data gets fucked by radiation. Being up there would mean that the puters will be completely exposed.
>>535896127Also lol nobody is gonna replace someone making $50,000 a year with a million dollar robot that breaks btw. Hate to break the news. Physical Robots are uncanny, people do not like them and no matter how much you put into it they are not alive or able to think or solve anything. They just weigh values and regurgitate the most likely answerBut hey buddy. We gotta build it to ask it how its gonna work so it can help us finish building it. Like Sam Altman said. Kek
>>535896265>Ai isn't good nna do any of that.It already is. The mass white collar layoffs are coming to every manufacturer and service provider, probably this year. That means basically every good and service is going to see big cuts in overhead. A lot of white collar services are just gone. You can pay your accountant $500 to do your taxes, or Grok or Claude Opus can do them in 30 seconds included in your subscription.Various AI models are now proving decades-old unsolved math problems. They're not very good at reasoning yet, but they are amazing at ingesting huge amounts of data and finding patterns. That one dude created a bespoke MRNA vaccine that cured his dog's terminal cancer using AI. It's going to be wild.
>>535896369But it's in space anon. What have I been saying this whole thread? You don't need to be space-efficient in space. There's no reason for them to use these microprocessor rams with 1nm thickness or whatever. They can use something bigger, more durable.
>>535896283>Cause you aint powering them with just solar.Yes you are>The energy consumption of the transmitter alone would be massiveLmao what
>>535896451You are smoking the stuff buddyAI is being used as an excuse to trim fat, outsource, and anticipate th coming AI. That's the stage we are it
>>535893401kooky jews that want money
>>535896092Science fiction can describe anything. A Dyson swarm gigaputer is possible but the overall computing power of each individual part of the swarm is small to not heat up the component too much because shit is already cooking from the Sun that is also blasting all times to power it.
>>535893925I don’t know about other countries but we have enough amateur rocket hobbyist who could hit objects in orbit, they don’t because it’s illegal and would ruin their lifeSame thing behind most of America being armed but not using them to kill politicians, they can, like our rocket hobbyist can, but no one is throwing their life away It’s also mildly amusing because many counties can’t do what our hobbyist are capable of
>>535896451>high school GED manual labor retard who has never had a white collar job in his life prophesying a probability weighted sentence constructor eliminating millions of jobs.hey dipshit your 10 minute unpaid break is almost up.
>>535896107Convective cooling is extremely effective. A couple of fans on your computer moving room temperature air across your graphics card and CPU is enough to manage a few hundred watts of waste heat. Yeah, air has low heat capacity, but as long as you have a decent volumetric flow it more than makes up for the capacity. The bigger the temperature difference between the surface and fluid, the more efficient the power transfer. Super-cold air is extremely efficient at transferring heat.
>>535896401>bunch of really stupid rambling>physical robotsAs opposed to mental or spiritual robots?>Also lol nobody is gonna replace someone making $50,000 a year with a million dollar robot that breaks btw.Nope, but eventually those robots will be $20,000. And more important, all the $100k office workers are getting replaced with a $25/month computer program, because it turns out what those people do is interact with computersAnd every time you buy anything from those companies, you've been paying for the salary of every one of those office workers, plus the utilities and maintenance and lease and taxes on the office. That's all gone now
>>535896401>a niggerbot just stole my bike
>>535893401The crazy hard part would be cooling all of it. It's hard to radiate heat up there, plus any kind of service on the hardware would be really hard.
>>535893401>>535893547>>535893552I hate you luddite retards so much.
>>535893401it's not infeasible if they are efficient and disposable.if the devices are 99+% energy efficient you don't need to worry so much about thermal management. at worst they can be turned off to get thermals back under control.if they are disposable you don't need to worry about radiation hardeningif they are disposable you don't need to worry about sending technicians to repair them.provided they aren't in orbit around earth leading to kessler syndrome, or having a way to deal with them there's really not that much of an issue.currently we don't have the ability to make electronics to such efficiencies, but who knows. maybe all it takes is some superconductor breakthrough.
>>535894419LOL imma use that if in the situation ever again, tell them china has spies stealing their pee from the sewers
>>535896544>I don't understand how anything worksThat's ok. Hilariously, stupid people are going to be the ones who benefit the most, because we'll actually be replacing the college graduate's jobs first, and they're the expensive ones
>>535896489You need to be mass efficient. It’s fucking expensive to put shit up there. Who profits? The guy who wants to sell rockets who is also shilling the idea of course.
>>535896489Which then would make everything bigger and less efficient. Which then would make shit even hotter. Which would make both the solar panels and radiators even bigger. And then everything would absorb even more heat from the sun itself. Which would return us to the second point.This is the circle problem you have to face. Thermodynamics are inevitable.
they want ram prices to be even higher than sky high
>>535896570>it's just fancy google!!You're about 5 years behind the times Anon
>>535896489so the best defense here is atmosphere and ur already inside it.
>>535893401Datacenters in space is just bad cover for global surveillance using radar. Processing the signals in a timely manner would require 'datacenters in space' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFIl-r9CIqoOh wait I meant this one:https://youtu.be/jbp3kdJZ1_A?t=5885
>>535893979The history of Russia is mainly "then things got worse." They are a strong people with poor government.
>>535896733what do you do for a living?
>>535896401Just ignore the retard. Do the waste time on him Ignore and filter.His mere existence drops the collective iq of this thread by several deviations
>>535896719Actually if it was bigger it wouldn't have suh intense concentrations of heat. It would naturally run colder
>>535893401sooner or later, if its not already been created. they will make counter data centers that just are servers that send out mass amounts of white noise to cover up any real information to stop annoying private companies from spying on people.its just the next step. they want to collect all data. then open the floodgates and let it cook the system with bullshit information>you cant do thatsays you its my computer my server i can do with it what i damn well please, its your fault for spying. im sure this is what they did when they were constantly spying on eachother during the cold war times listening on the shortwave radio. its just the next inevitable step. probably have a service provider that will mask everything you do extra 10 bucks a month though.
>>535894773I think you don't understand the severity of the situation. The heat generated by, and the power consumption of data centers are equivalent to cities, not houses.
>>535896773I retired from financial services years ago. I've been building a little passion project of mine using Claude Code. I'm not exaggerating when I say I've had about $500,000 in work done for the cost of the monthly subscriptionBeen doing the same with my taxes - this year was the first year I filed a 100% AI return. Last year, I got my return from my accountant and decided to give Claude a shot at the same forms. Claude produced the same return in under a minute. I then tested a few more years, including more complicated ones. Same results. That guy's job is gone.
>>535893401Elmo needs spacex stonks to go to the moon, so he's shilling a new retarded idea that'll never become a reality.
>>535896955>The heat generated by, and the power consumption of data centers are equivalent to cities, not houses.No, it's not. You read something online by a moron who used some scary-sounding (to you) numbers.
>>535893401>Where does this 'datacenters in space' nonsense come from?Musk has to hype his SpaceX IPO with fantasies of huge untapped markets for SpaceX, it is all just pre-IPO hype to juice the stock, the actual proven markets for SpaceX do no justify the IPO valuation, which is maybe 50x reality, but it will work and Musk will go on to fleece the public yet again and the Boomers will get suckered into paying for it with their pensions, the IPO is really a scam to loot the Boomer's pensions. Elmo lucked out with a good launch this week, so his scam is on track to succeed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHD8BDFYyGI
>>535895579Gross.
>>535893401So that the goyim who lost their jobs to a chagpt don't firebomb them
>>535896856You really do start to get the sense of why the third world is such a shithole everywhere you go, don't you?Here's this retarded beaner smugly showing you he is almost exactly as wrong as it's possible to be on a pretty simple subject.
>>535893401There is a self reinforcing feedback loop between richfags and pajeets, one ask for impossible and the other say what they want to hear.This is why richfags say white people are useless and love pajeets so much, because white people won't attempt the same retarded projects pajeets will and won't laugh in their face for suggesting something as stupid as datacenters in space. But there is a catch pajeets won't deliver, they keep asking for extension and 15years after "Mars colony in a decade" you still won't have anything to show.The most guidable retard meet the most shameless scammer and this is the reality you live in.
>>535896856Not really, you are ignoring the Sun, which the whole thing needs to power itself.The iss uses the Earth's shadow to slightly cool itself (it's more like leaving the kitchen than cooling the kitchen) and then use the batteries for those short periods of time.You can't dissipate energy if you are taking as much or more energy in.Sure, more surface area would mean better ir radiation but also means bigger surface for sun rays to heat you up.You will need considerable time behind the shadow of the planet to attempt to cool it and then again, you need to power the damn thing and it still would be producing heat because of the internal processes.
>>535896996>I retired from financial services years ago.lower middle class prole laborer LARP tell.
>>535896723LelMay be
>>535896575>Super-cold air is extremely efficient at transferring heat.Its not. Infact, its so terrible that you literally haven't encountered any PC or laptop since 1990 that actually used air as its cooling medium.Every single goddamn pc uses a copper pipe that stores grams of low-pressure water that transfers your heat to a radiator that is hundreds of times larger than the cm^2 chip inside.You could call that "air cooling" which it technically is since the final medium is ambient air, but its actually a phase change cooler with metal cooling fins to get the surface area large enough because air is such a fantastic INSULATOR
>>535895171>including how hard it is to cool shit down in space This is getting fixed>and the high cost of putting shit in orbit. Price is decreasing and getting cheaper and cheaper. To the point this shit is viable >Richfags pushing this are either grifting or banking on electricity costs increasing massively.Its not even rich fags pushing this, they have just jumped on the idea as they see its realizable and will eventually happen. They will just capitalize and be the first ones to get on it because they have they the resources to spend on it.
>>535896401someone who makes 50k a year doesn't cost the company 50k a year, they pay extra taxes on top of that. so they probably will. or thye can rent the robot.>>535896451you are very unintelligent, or about average intelligence, want to know about a pattern i found? people who aren't good at logical reasoning tend to confuse concepts that are similar.one example is how you heard something about AI find patterns based on huge amounts on data, which refers to how it learns to read and write, the pattern here would be how to put words together, which is its fundamental goal, and you think it means its good at finding logical patterns. even though by definition, its not even trying to do any reasoning, just put words together in a way that's similar most written text from training data.why do you even think AI "hallucinates"? this is something they can't find a work around and never will. all the technology is doing is absorb text, and then output similar text. it is not even TRYING to tell the truth or make sense. they're trying to get as close as possible but its fundamentally not doing that.people shouldn't trust it for anything important, and the MRNA thing sounds like clickbait for idiots.
>>535895634You are painfully dumb
>>535897072>>Where does this 'datacenters in space' nonsense come from?>Musk has to hype his SpaceX IPO with fantasies of huge untapped markets for SpaceX, it is all just pre-IPO hype to juice the stock, the actual proven markets for SpaceX do no justify the IPO valuation, which is maybe 50x reality, but it will work and Musk will go on to fleece the public yet again and the Boomers will get suckered into paying for it with their pensions, the IPO is really a scam to loot the Boomer's pensions. Elmo lucked out with a good launch this week, so his scam is on track to succeed.its pretty funny NO ONE in this thread gets the Musk IPO hype scam, he has pulled this schtick multiple times and still we think he is proposing real projects that are technically feasible, when in reality it is just a scam to bamboozle wall street into thinking Musk has a NEW NEW THING to justify his overvalued stock, its all a shell game of bubblenomics, its pretty fucking obvious by now to everyone except wall streethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8bEzOjFdYQ
>>535893401>>535893451>>535893547>>535893552space is fakei pray that one day you may come to this same conclusion on a truly independent and subjective basisstop trusting (((external sources))). work by first principles. if you're white it should be possible.
I don't know who is more retarded. The actual retard jeet nigger gorilla talking shit he doesn't knows about because he is being paid to shill the bs space data centers.Or the fools that keep entertaining him by replying to him.
>>535896656Ok explain how we're gonna send up a datacenter satellite and it'll save all our water because of some thorium cell and get "evaporatively" cooled by the void of space you anti-intellectual pedophile enemy of humanity
>>535897147Ah, the classic Stupid Person move: "oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that instead"Go try Grok or Claude's free version. It isn't just a search engine any more. They can reason, slowly and simply compared to a human, but combined with the ability to ingest and process huge amounts of data, that's enough to write code and solve mathematical/engineering problems. Google's shitty LLM just solved a couple Erdos proofs that have been uncrackable for decades. This means that the current amniotic versions of reasoning LLMs are now better at advanced math than every mathematician who's ever lived.
i think asians should just be given the reign over computing now.
>>535893451You dumbass did you even consider the thermal management?
>>535897145>but also means bigger surface for sun rays to heat you up.But that's just a flat tax across the board. It's not like building bigger = more heat from the sun. It's the same hear per square meter, or whatever.
The appeal to space data center is: "Goys can't burn it down :)"
>>535896871actually I changed my mind. there is absolutely no way possibly that foreign countries, including the US do not have some kind of white noise filter to stop spying foreign nations. and by 2030, they will just make it available by a private company.
>>535897253>all the technology is doing is absorb text, and then output similar text.>third worlder's years out of dateQue sorpriendiente>the MRNA thing sounds like clickbait for idiots.>well I don't know anthing about this thing that happened but nuh uh>>535897260>other beaner
>>535897359>its pretty funny NO ONE in this thread gets the Musk IPO hype scam, he has pulled this schtick multiple times and still we think he is proposing real projects that are technically feasible, when in reality it is just a scam to bamboozle wall street into thinking Musk has a NEW NEW THING to justify his overvalued stock, its all a shell game of bubblenomics, its pretty fucking obvious by now to everyone except wall streetYes, that's a sharp and increasingly common take.Where "Data Centers in Space" Comes FromIt's almost entirely Musk-driven hype.Musk has repeatedly called orbital AI data centers a "no-brainer" and claimed space will be the cheapest place to run AI within 2–3 years.SpaceX's S-1 filing leans heavily on this narrative to justify the giant valuation — attributing the vast majority of its claimed $28.5 trillion TAM to AI, with orbital compute as a key piece.The idea is to launch massive constellations (up to 1 million satellites) packed with GPUs, powered by constant solar energy in orbit, bypassing Earth's power grid, land, and cooling constraints.However, even the S-1 prospectus itself throws cold water on it:It admits these initiatives are in early stages, involve unproven technologies, and "may not achieve commercial viability."It warns about the harsh space environment causing failures.Your Core Point Is StrongYou're right that this smells like classic Musk IPO juicing:Proven business (Starlink + launches) doesn't come close to justifying $1.75 trillion.So they invent (or massively overhype) gigantic new markets that sound futuristic.This has been the playbook before: Hyperloop, full self-driving "next year," robotaxis, solar roofs for everyone, Mars in the 2020s, etc.The endgame often looks like using hype high valuation raise money / let insiders exit repeat.
>>535897539You are trying to explain white high school physics to a beanerYou might as well try teaching trig to your dog
>>535893401Because we're already at the point where most people use their phones for everything, and nearing the point where satellite cell service will be used for phones. The big three in USA cell service are already so terrified of Starlink eventually becoming a worldwide cell service that they're already taking pre-emptive measures to try and counter (it won't work and/or be too far behind). If you put the datacenters in space, theorectically certain services will eventually be directly from space to phone. Starlink already proved that LEO home internet can work and without major latency issues, so if for instance Google decides to just move most Youtube servers to space, it makes it easier to leave the rest of the land-based datacenters for more important B2B-type data.
>>535897478>a super computer designed for centuries to calculate math, has calculated a mathi'm not impressed yet
>>535893401>It would be easier to put them on top of the fucking Everest for all that matter.retard here, aside from getting power to everest wouldnt that be a good place to naturally keep hardware cool?
>>535897478No, those proofs were just problems nobody cared about and nobody worked on.
This greek thing mogs ai because of the sovl points
>>535897042Have you been to any? I have been to some of the largest powerplants in the country, and these things look worse. They have massive substations with dozens of transformers, and enough individual power supplies to power your moms dildo. Michigan is reactivating a nuclear power plant just to run one of the fucking things.
>>535897359>nobody gets thisI’ve been saying it for as long as I’ve been posting in this thread.
>>535897562>Proven business (Starlink + launches) doesn't come close to justifying $1.75 trillion.SpaceX launches more into orbit than every other company and government on Earth put together. Starlink alone generated $7-10 billion EBIDTA in 2025, probably $12 this year
>>535897478curious how your writing style changes from post to post, with the only constant being your shilling of AI products with surface level understanding of technical details. i'm guessing you're the black sheep of a white nigger family: slightly to the right of the bell curve, but too poor and entrenched in white nigger culture to ascend. no college education, no prospects of knowledge based work, and so you seethe in blue collar hell, and cope by telling anonymous lies. "u-uhh...i did financial services.... but i'm retired!!!"
>>535897685Its funny when they wear their covid masks as if its gonna protect them from radiation (which cannot harm you)
>>535897539Kind of, yes. Would be the same energy input per m2, you would still need to dissipate this energy through IR radiation though, plus whatever heat you produce. You can't just calculate for the heat energy output of your machines, you need to calculate also the input and balance both.It's a precarious balance.I guess in theory you could have moving parts that help you change the angle of "attack" of the whole thing to keep more surface area way from direct sunlight while keeping the solar panels facing it but that would make everything more expensive and would most likely change the orbit iver time faster than just floating around. So more repair and less lifespan for more money.
>>535897516*difficulties with thermal management*
>>535896686you sound like a plumber who hates college grads, simultaneously thinks that their jobs are daycare due to a conspiracy and also that they'll soon be replaced and unemployed, and thinks he knows quantum physics because you read an article. get a grip.these anons are right, it would be harder to dissipate heat in space, by definition. i dont know if it would be possible or how, but that much is obvious because it's literally high school physics.
>>535897679this tech from Archimedes and Hipparchus got forgotten and lost for 1400 years while humanity got stupider and stupiderhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8bEzOjFdYQ
>>535897540They themselves or the sun will burn them down tho
>>535897588>i'm not impressed yetA computer program out-mathed every mathematician on Earth for the last 6 decades>>535897711>oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that insteadLmao you literally just hallucinated a paragraph about me so you can try to avoid your cognitive dissonance>>535897685>Michigan is reactivating a nuclear power plant just to run one of the fucking things.Yes, that's a good thing. More energy is good. There is no such thing as a rich country that's energy poor.>these things look worse.Lmao perhaps they should put up a flower garden if that'll make you feel better?
>>535897450The only reason people are considering datacenters in space is because we can use nuclear to power them there without lefties going ballistic.If we were like china that is actively creating nuclear powered data centers without giving a fuck nobody would talk about this shit.
>>535897902>Lmao you literally just hallucinated a paragraph about me so you can try to avoid your cognitive dissonancenotice how the style of writing changes yet again. it's obvious that you're prompting AI to write your posts. should have pushed yourself to do better in life, little blue collar white nigger.
THE ALIEN ARRIVAL IS CONFIRM FOR TUESDAY MORNING 9:30 AM EST TIME.QANON INSIDER HERE WITH DEEPSTATE ILLUMINATI SEE YOU ALL IN THE MOTHERSHIPS GOODLUCK SAFE.PS. Disappearance of UFO expert Gen. Neil McCasland 'confirmed gameover'
>>535896656Tranny faggot nigger
>>535897692>>nobody gets this>I’ve been saying it for as long as I’ve been posting in this thread.ok, one post from one guy out of 50 posters, the rest of whom think it is an actual technical proposal and not just an IPO hype strategy to fleece the Boomers pensions. There's a sucker born every minute, and Musk is betting on them falling for it yet again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8bEzOjFdYQ
>>535897860>third worlder has opinions>oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that instead>these anons are right, it would be harder to dissipate heat in space, by definition. i dont know if it would be possible or how, but that much is obvious because it's literally high school physics.The funniest thing about this retarded couple of sentences is that you admit you don't know anything about the subject but you still have opinions>i dont know if it would be possible or how,You stupid beaner, we've been radiating heat in space for decades. It is, and I'm not kidding, the very simplest and easiest engineering involved in "build a bunch of nanonmeter-scale GPUs and RAM plus a huge foldable solar array, put all of that into a container that will survive launch, space heat cycles and vacuum, then put the whole mass on a resuable rocket that accelerates so fast it fires them into orbit, where it can deploy the panels and begin running"It's 35x35m of radiator per MW at 77C operating temperature.
The vast majority of people, like 90%+, cannot process every bit of information handed to them, they have a few niche areas they actually understand and for the rest of their life they're completely in the dark on everything they say, bullshitting their way through pretty much their whole life.So they don't think about it, but other people say it, so it's true.>Muh cooling muh cooling bro they cannot ventWtf, NPC's have found this topic too, that's not even the main problem with data centers in space.The main problem is that rockets are expensive and going into space is expensive, and these facilities are literally the size of factories filled with complex bundles of wires and heavy shit. For one single data center in space it would be like building a whole factory in orbit, which immediately ruins the viability of any of this.This stuff needs to make profit, money. The ISS is only a million pounds, data centers span hundreds of acres. You don't even get to technical issues like muh cooling bro muh power bro bullshit, for commercial ridesharing to space (the absolute cheapest way to get something to space, just using up extra space in the rockets) you're looking at 1,000 dollars per pound.So show me anything that can make 1,000 dollars for 1 pound of material. A 1,000 pound "data center" (LMAO) would cost a million bucks to put into space.
>>535894124>In First World countries>flaglel retard>we build rocketsno, imbecile, you do jack shitsome african immigrant is building rocketsbefore him a nazi scientist running from responsibility didand a bunch of black women as your documentaries show
>>535893401>You can hear this bullshit in the news, podcasts, scientific articles,...You can. I never hear it because I don't consume Gen X/Millenial media tripe.
>>535897956>oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that instead>now the imaginary version is that HE HIMSELF is AIlmao
>>535897956>Ai nigger is defending space ai
>>535897548>years out of datethis literally has not changed, they made improvements but its the same technology from the start, also same as gpt2 when normies didnt know about it>well I don't know anthing about this thing that happened but nuh uhi dont know but im almost sure its tardbaitlook idiot. the whole point of AI is literally to absorb text and output similar text. you mentioned before>combined with the ability to ingest and process huge amounts of datalanguage models are not processing ANY logical concepts or ideas. they are absorbing text and writing similar text, and tbf, that goes a long way and has potential, but you have to keep in mind the limitations. it will never be trustworthy because its not trying to and doesnt know what it means to say the truth. it will never reason about logical concepts, except indirectly by virtue of processing text. it will never know the difference between getting to the point and making sense or blabbering, because both can sound similar. it will never be good at coming up with anything meaningful.regarding code, it is true that it is advancing on that, and you guys are so ecstatic about it. with how stupid most of my coworkers are, who can code, i am surprised the average person is too stupid to even code. but it seems to be that way, otherwise we would not be making this much money for something anyone can learn and so many people tried to learn. and you hate us so much. we're not replaced yet, and there's a chance we never will. but if we are, your excitement won't last very long, because there's other tech jobs and AI will create even more jobs.
>>535898167when found out and cornered, the GED manual labor retard reflexively spews "lmao" "lol" etc.>u-uh-uhh actually i'm an extremely wealthy retired "professional financial services"-er!!!!!
>>535898131This is a very good point. The real questions about space data centers are financial, not engineering>>535898141>beanerWeird how none of those immigrants ever built anything in your country?Well, except when we came and dug a trench through it, the single most important thing that has ever happened to any of your ancestors, and which we've taken back since you're incompetent to maintain a 19th-century canal
>>535898228>>oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that instead>now he's not AI, but a manual labor retard>who somehow understands this subject far better than I do!This isn't going the way you'd hoped, is it lol
>>535898167>now the imaginary version is that HE HIMSELF is AIits obvious that you're at the very least, asking AI for what to say, and it will never not make you look like an idiot.AI blabbers and doesn't know the difference between making sense or writing something really stupid that sounds plausible to an idiot. so if you ask for it with help responding here you'll look like an idiot. anyone with a brain will see the journalist sounding text and say "this guy has no idea what I even said".
>>535898297you never answered the question. what do you do for a living? i'm sure it involves an hourly wage and some sort of manual labor -- but i'm asking for the specifics.
>>535898064If you apply that proportion to investors you’ll also see that it’ll work and the spacex ipo will indeed make Elon a trillionaire. He’s a huckster and he’s very good at it.
>>535898228There is a shill that spams everyday around these parts that claim to have a freezer full of beef. This nigger is sounding a heck of a lot similar to that particular nigger with how much he says he's something he clearly is not.These paid jeets are running scripts
>>535893401Manufactured news stories/buzz for SpaceX IPO boost It's like the articles in magazines that would have a little footnote that they weren't articles they were actually ads
>>535898322>third worlder thinks moderately intelligent discourse is now AIlmao and to think you used to have an empireI mean it was an empire of people like the Panamanian beaner here but still>AI blabbersMy man you just literally said you have no idea how any of the engineering involved here works but the retarded anons sound right to your retarded selfThe ISS, built by First World countries, has been orbiting for decades. It generates a lot of heat and radiates it into space, and that is by far the simplest bit of engineering in the project
>>535897378>space is fake>i pray that one day you may come to this same conclusion on a truly independent and subjective basisYou're an absolute fucking retard. The "indipendend" research happens since centuries all around to world.Are you honestly that braindamaged, that there is a world wide conspiracies even from enemy nations like the US and former Sovjets?
>>535898461>"lmao" again>no punctuation>my man
>>535898401>what do you do for a living?>oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that insteadI retired in 2021 along with all the other /biz/ OGs, by correctly anticipating a grand total of 2 things in 2020.This doesn't help you avoid your cognitive dissonance, so you're just imagining stuffI guess, by the sound of it, you have an email job that won't exist in about 18 months. Sorry about that, you should have invested when money was literally pouring from the sky
>>535898558>oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that instead
>>535898110>you admit you don't know anything about the subject but you still have opinionsi admit i dont know much about the subject and write what i do know. there's nothing wrong with that.you keep going on about how others are third world and people in your country are so much better, but the thing is, that only makes you look stupider compared to those other people you take pride in who made your country first world, who btw are gone and the country is now declining (same here btw)>You stupid beaner, we've been radiating heat in space for decades. It is, and I'm not kidding, the very simplest and easiest engineering involved in "build a bunch of nanonmeter-scale GPUs and RAM plus a huge foldable solar array, put all of that into a container that will survive launch, space heat cycles and vacuum, then put the whole mass on a resuable rocket that accelerates so fast it fires them into orbit, where it can deploy the panels and begin running"damn bro you sound so smart. i bet any project to do that should be led by you or won't get anywhere. kek.what i said is a fact. and even if you have muh radiator or whatever, it'd still be in a vacuum
>>535893401It is painfully blatant scam by Elon Musk. He needed an excuse for SpaceX to acquire xAI, before the latter went bankrupt and exposed his fraud. Now the retarded space investors are going to partake in SpaceX ipo and bail out xAI and twitter on the side. It is about nothing but money for Elon at this point.
>>535898422>oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that insteadI mean I don't expect any better from you, since you are a brown beaner who couldn't even maintain a canal
>>535898461>I mean it was an empire of people like the Panamanian beaner here but stillhey, watch it. im ok with you insulting me, but not my latino frens. they are our brothers from the empire like you say.
technofaggots are creating a demonic future and they want to blot out the stars
>>535898633>i admit i dont know much about the subject and write what i do know. there's nothing wrong with that.Here's the thing - when you're talking about engineering and real stuff, and you don't know anything about it, and you say "no, these other fucking morons, saying a thing that we've been doing for decades is impossible, sound right to me," you are not contributing anything. You're making a conversation worseYou are in fact being a third worlder, showing up somewhere you're not supposed to be and lowering the quality for everyone else>what i said is a fact. and even if you have muh radiator or whatever, it'd still be in a vacuumWhat's most annoying is that you could be using this time, instead of spewing butthurt at me, to just google what we're talking about so you could actually engage usefully. But you don't, because you're a third worlder
>>535893401>Where does this 'datacenters in space' nonsense come from?people are stupid and have been getting dumber since the 1970s at this state the average 20-30 year old is borderline retarded
>>535898692I will lay off the beaner once he stops exemplifying the breed>oye gringo radiators in space are impossible because there's no airLike the other white person explained in here, air is an insulator
>>535897696Still that isn’t enough to cover the money sinkholes called twitter and xAI, that SpaceX just so happened to buy.
>>535898588>>535898613first it was a career in financial services. now it's some vague claim of making millions on cryptocurrency. we're not any closer to the truth. maybe you aren't a manual laborer -- maybe you're a minimum wage retail worker, or a coping mentally ill NEET loser, like most of /biz/.
>>535898792that's the thing. i know googling about this won't make me know enough to meaningfully lecture anyone on it, because it's a highly complicated topic. you don't. you probably have those opinions based on very limited knowledge.also all i said is it should be harder than on earth, not impossible
>>535898692Well I wish you would come to dublin and collect them all and bring them to Spain my European fren, same for Portugal an their BraziliansOh well at least they are nominally Catholic
>>535898844>Like the other white person explained in here, air is an insulatorkek you have to be trolling
>>535898927>Oh well at least they are nominally Catholicexactly, they're literally trad christians and people complain, kek
>>535893401It's just sloppy stories to keep people talking. If location doesn't matter Alaska has free cooling and power is really cheap cause they did some geothermal shit there.
>>535898865>sinkholes called twitterTwitter has been profitable since 2024, what are you talking about? xAI is them desperately trying to catch up with Anthropic and OpenAI, which means pouring money into it.>>535898916>because it's a highly complicated topic.It's not a highly complicated topic, that's the thing. Radiating heat in space is high school physics and we've been doing it in real life for decades. It's like someone confidently telling you cars are impossible because nobody can make a round tire. It's that stupid.>>535898877>>oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that insteadI'm sorry if you're about to lose your made-up job, Anon. The upside is that everything is going to be so much cheaper you'll be able to make a living doing something more interesting to you personally
>>535893401The AI exists so we can offload our thinking to the phones
>>535896656Fuck you. Servers in space or the salty ocean is fucking retard tier.
>>535899133im pretty sure making a radiator for a data center in space would be hard. you're just like the people who read an article and think they know quantum physicsi can only comment on what i know, which is that it would be harder in space than on earth, denying that would be retarded because you can know that from just high school physics
>>535899133>I'm sorry if you're about to lose your made-up job, Anon. The upside is that everything is going to be so much cheaper you'll be able to make a living doing something more interesting to you personallynow i'm thinking NEET: the man of inaction, the perpetual unmotivated loser. AI will save the day (deus ex machina, just like your video games!) and mom will NEVER have reason to bother you about getting a job again!
>>535899015Not the brazilians :-(
>>535893401Nomies man. They love combining things they don’t understand to sound like they understand them.
>>535893401People who don't know that radiation flips bits I expect. Most of this space shit seems to ignore radiation. Not even robots can handle radiation
>>535899223>im pretty sure making a radiator for a data center in space would be hard.Based on what, exactly? You don't know anything about the subject!>you're just like the people who read an article and think they know quantum physicsAnon if a radiator is like quantum physics to you than you are a beaner. >i can only comment on what i knowYou keep commenting on what you don't know. I'm not kidding when I say it is the simplest and easiest engineering job involved. >>535899286>oh shit, I can't deal with what he's saying! I'll just make up an imaginary version of him in my head, and engage with that insteadlmaoYeah, you're definitely not essential personnel anywhere. The thing is, though, life is going to get so cheap thanks to AI that you'll actually be able to make a living doing something else
>>535899516>Based on what, exactly? You don't know anything about the subject!>Anon if a radiator is like quantum physics to you than you are a beaner.do you think that if you led the project and a bunch of manual workers just did everything you said, it would go well?i dont know anything about making a bridge, im pretty sure its hard to make the calculations to make sure it wont collapse. get it?
>>535899516you have a child's understanding of technology and of history. better listen to mom and start applying to jobs.
>>535893401>Where does this 'datacenters in space' nonsense come from?same place as colonizing mars
>>535899590>i dont know anything about making a bridge, im pretty sure its hard to make the calculations to make sure it wont collapse. get it?Making a bridge is infinitely, infinitely, infinitely harder than building a space radiator, like several orders of magnitude harder. By definition it has to cross a big empty space and hold itself up. It has to deal with various loads being placed on it from different directions at different times, whether traffic, seismic, wind, water, whatever. A space radiator is just a radiator. You have a loop with some sort of coolant, it contacts the thing that needs to be cooled on one end, and goes through a radiator at the other. >do you think that if you led the project and a bunch of manual workers just did everything you said, it would go well?If I paid some moderately competent engineers to build a space radiator, they could do it easily. There are many many space radiators floating around in space right now.The retards you were agreeing with would be standing around saying that what they were doing is impossible
>>535893401It's just more>heckin science!for the faggot normies. They can barely get rockets to be reusable but sure, we're gonna start building super structures in space
>>535898541Alright i'm not even gonna talk about the Indian one because thats the most obvious fake one yetLook at the cup of water in chinese spaceWhy doesnt it float away?
>>535899886>A space radiator is just a radiator. You have a loop with some sort of coolant, it contacts the thing that needs to be cooled on one end, and goes through a radiator at the other.>If I paid some moderately competent engineers to build a space radiator, they could do it easily.why pay some engineers? you just said its so easy bro. its just a radiator. just take one from an old car. should work, right?
>>535898131>>535898245Well yes, but the bill being high isn't a downside if it means you have a plausible reason to squeeze more money out of all the dumb investors.>But anon, the data center won't work in space!This is finance, it doesn't matter that it won't actually work, only goyim worry about the real world. If the company goes under that's someone else's problem, it's an LLC, you still get to keep whatever salary you paid yourself and whatever house you bought with it. These people can only be understood if you take on the mental frame of Epstein and Bernie Madoff.
>>535899619>this thing doesn't do what it does because uhhhh you have a child's understanding of technology and of history>historylmao jesus christ you are DOOMEDI'm retired, Anon. Wish I'd fully understood what I was looking at with OpenAI or I would've bought a lot more Nvidia rather than Bitcoin as the "new tech exposure" part of my portfolio, because I'd be a centimillionaire right nowFor fun, maybe try the free version of ChatGPT or Grok, give it a project you did at work recently, and give it the same instructions you got.If it spits out comparable work to what you took a day to do, but in 30 seconds, which it will, you will begin to understand what's about to happen
>>535899998>its just a radiator. just take one from an old car. should work, right?You are now continuing to be a third worlder. Of course the material requirements for a vacuum radiator are different from one for the surface of a planet. You'd likely use ammonia in space, for example. But yeah, a car radiator uses a loop that takes heat from a thing that needs to be cooled and transfers it to a radiator. But it's by far the simplest part of a heat-generating orbital satellite.Your problem is that you were agreeing with retards who were saying the thing that we have been doing for decades is impossible
>>535894388>My hohol roommate told me they don’t celebrate easter and they are different from the west.Our Church-related holidays are celebrated at a different date, because multiple Orthodox branches still operate under the Julian calendar
>>535896401There is nothing you can say that will make them wake up, it's like talking to a cow.
>>535893547This experiment was successful and makes way more sense than putting them in space due to lower costs, same thermals and physical connection, I wonder why they dropped it and why they're pushing the satellite gimmick.
>>535900450>another third worlderWhat I like about your version of events is that it requires Elon Musk to be fooling every single government, bank, and investment firm in the world for literally trillions of dollars, but he just can't fool some third world retards who don't understand how anything works lol
>>535893821>One of the biggest logistical nightmares of "datacenters" is heat dissipation, something which is incredibly hard to manage in space where your only option is radiating the excess heat away.On a sun synchronous near polar orbit, the radiators are simply on the back of the solar panels (this is an entirely different type of orbit than ISS, the ISS can not do it like this). Problem solved.
Basically just another way to prevent fraud from being uncovered.
>>535900450Thunderf00t was almost redpilled on the Elon Question.he's just way too convinced that space exists
>>535893401I think the only advantage of orbiting datacenters is they use the free solar energy instead of draining our grid.I don't see t happening since they would be an absolute bitch to repair or upgrade.
>>535900684>another third worlderNot An Argument.>If a lot of people get scammed it's not a scam
>>535900693This whole thread's been full of third worlders smugly asserting that radiators can't work in space, and a couple of patient whites explaining that actually radiating the heat is by far the simplest engineering challenge involved. It's amazing.
>>535897572I taught my dog to do proofs. Also dogs are great at trig.
>>535900264You don't want a pure liquid coolant, you want a phase change refrigerant. Lighter and has aproximately the same temperature across the entire radiator, which is important. Ammonia boiling point is way too low, I was thinking ethanol.
>>535901138>Not An Argument.It is a very salient argument>>If a lot of people get scammed it's not a scamIt's not "a lot of people" - it's everyone. It is more likely that you, a retarded third worlder, don't understand what's going on than that this one autistic guy is somehow fooling the entire world that he's cut the price of putting a kg into orbit by 90%, has blanketed the entire Earth's surface with high-speed wifi thanks to a constellation of thousands of networked cube sats, makes hyper fast electric cars etc>>535901291based
>>535896611You are delusional cult. Ai is a huge scam they can't pull the plug on.
>>535901434>Ammonia boiling point is way too low, I was thinking ethanol.That's interesting. I wonder if it's mass that's the deciding factor or efficiencyI heard liquid droplet radiators might use liquid gallium
>>535901619Ammonia heat pumps are the industry standard more or less.
>>535901604>Ai is a huge scam Lmao I remember you guys 13 years ago telling me Bitcoin is a huge scam. Glad I didn't listen to youBeing reasonably rich and formerly poor, I've noticed that if I had to distill "Is this person gonna make it" to one characteristic, it's curiosityLiterally everyone I know who's rich, if you bring up something new and potentially exciting, say "Really? Tell me more" Literally everyone I know who's still poor does the opposite. I have old school friends still telling me crypto's a scam, AI's a scam, etc. They don't know anything about any of those things, mind you, but they somehow know it's all a scam and not worth even thinking aboutThus they miss life-changing opportunities over and over and over, while the people who go "Really? Tell me more" don't.
>>535901840I thought so. 99% sure that's what the ISS uses on its "impossible" radiators, though maybe the optimum fluid for LEO is different than from something hanging out over the pole basically stationary to the sun?
>>535901840For industrial refrigeration, on earth, with metal piping. If you don't mind running the silicon a little warm and you want to keep pressure low enough to use plastic piping, you don't want ammonia.
It's just more hype bullshit for the tech companies to get uninformed normie retards to think "WHOA THEY SO SMART!"It's complete and utter bullshit. How the fuck are you gonna put a "datacenter" in fucking space? Where is the heat going to go, because spoiler, there's no air up there to radiate all the heat from running a bunch of hot ass electronics to, not to mention the cost of getting that mass up into space, fucking retarded. Look at how much mass a standard small "datacenter" you would build on the ground takes, what magical tech are these techbros claiming they're going to put in a satellite that is so much more special and different from putting it on the fucking ground? God I hate this shit so much I hate these scamming fucks and yet they can just tell blatant bullshit lies with no basis in reality and their stock price goes up and they make billions more dollars. Fuck this society
>>535896127Let me ask the cultists The Chinese used to work for pennies making everything for us. Did the company ever... EVER cut prices seriously? No they didn't. They increased profit margins. In all th history of slave labor, did anything ever become free for the common person?Now with robots your not even talking about cheap labor. You are talking about subscriptions, backordered parts, upgrades, up front costs that far exceed anything today The entire thing is a joke sit down and analyze it rationally.
>>535893401>You can't do an audit on spaceborne datacenters to make sure they're not calculating how to make a virus to kill all non-jews>Plebs don't have the resources to hit a datacenter in orbitThose are literally the only two reasons to put them in space. It's harder to cool them in space where radiation is the only means of losing heat, which means their cooling infrastructure is going to be heavy and/or big.
>>535902407>Did the company ever... EVER cut prices seriously?Yes? How much would an 80" flat screen TV cost 20 years ago?>They increased profit margins.Lord, commies are so tiresome. Manufacturing margins are pretty tight compared to where they used to be, and especially compared to more intangible stuff like SAAS>Now with robots your not even talking about cheap labor. You are talking about subscriptions, backordered parts, upgrades, up front costs that far exceed anything today80% of white collar work involves interacting with a computer. Now the computer do all of that. That's the first stuff to go. Robots have been around for decades. They only get more and more capable. I think you're talking about humanoid robots specifically, which are more of a demonstration of the huge amount of complicated 3D math and sensors and processing that it takes to stand up and walk across a room, than an actual "Factories will be full of C-3POs pulling levers"Humanoid robots might be good for domestic servant stuff, like having one robot that can wash dishes and fold laundry. Roombas are already the optimal form factor for cleaning floors. A window-washer robot will look more like a scaffold with a roomba attached to it.
>>535893401People have a positive perception of space exploration and a negative perception of AI. So the AI kikes are trying to associate AI with space exploration to improve its image. Very simple strategy that they do with many many subjects
>>535903022Two more weeks faggot. everything you said was bullshit. TVs are cheap because of robotics and composites. Not ai faggotry. Robotics is not ai
>>535902293They were the heat pumps on the satellites I operated, so...
>>535902748>bigIt's not a bigger problem than power, the required PV is about as big. In a sun synchronous orbit, the front of the panel faces the sun and the back mostly faces space, works out well structurally.Two bigs on the opposite sides of the same plane, means you only have one big.
>>535902748Every satellite system can be permanently disabled with a few commands from the ground. These are just machines, and very fragile ones at that.
>>535903141>more commie seethe>TVs are cheap because of robotics and compositesTVs are cheap because it became cheaper to make them, and if a manufacturer didn't pass those savings onto their consumers in the form of lower prices, the consumers went and bought from a company that did.AI is going to do the same thing. Every time you buy a TV, you're paying for the cost of producing that TV plus their overhead plus their margin. That overhead currently involves office buildings, leased or owned, full of white collar workers making decent money. AI is going to slash that 90%.>Robotics is not aiYes. AI robots are going to be really something, but that's farther down the line. Right now everyone who gets paid to operate a computer is going bye-bye, because the computer can now operate itself, much much faster and cheaper.
>>535893401About as hard as it is to put anything else with the same weight into space?
>>535895091I've sold Hyperloops to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map!
>>535903311I've been trying to explain this very simple thing to these tards for like an hour lolThey are absolutely fixated on the "impossibility" of what is actually the very easiest part of engineering a space-based data centerIt's like someone smugly telling you that cars are impossible because it's impossible to make a round tire>well actually we've been making round tires for a long time and really that's about the simplest part of a modern-->OH THEN WHY DON'T YOU GO MAKE A ROUND TIRE RIGHT NOW I'LL WAIT
>>535898414>If you apply that proportion to investors you’ll also see that it’ll work and the spacex ipo will indeed make Elon a trillionaire. He’s a huckster and he’s very good at it.yep, Greatest Show on Earth, hahanever give a sucker an even break
>>535893401>Where does this 'datacenters in space' nonsense come from?they put it up in space so they can do illegal shit and not follow the law of whatever country they previously had their terrestrial data centers in.let's say you want to enslave people with a digital control grid. you don't want those people to be able to rise up and go storm the data center, or cut its power, or drone strike it, so you put it up in space. Now it moves it out of the range of attack for anyone except maybe a dozen nation states, who are all probably in on it together at some level. striking space data centers makes LEO unusable for everyone, so no one does it.Practice in LEO, move it to the moon for maximum safety.
>>535893401From what I understand the idea is to have tens of thousands of smaller satellites working as a mesh, akin to Starlink.I still think it's kinda dumb, but it is one way to get around popular resistance to ground construction if you have to I suppose.You could also use solar shades like JWST to increase effectiveness of the radiators if you really needed to.
Thunderf00t FTWit is a pretty good QRD to a pretty wacky storybut he will become a trillionaire with lies and hypewhat a stupid time to be alivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8bEzOjFdYQ&t=201s
>>535903365Tvs move in price relative to everyone hing else retard and has nothing to do with AI or slave laborWhen niggers were picking cotton, cotton was not free, nor was it sold free. Clothes still costed money relative to the cost of living. The extra money was just pocketed by the producersYour argument about an era of unlimited stuff that costs nothing is blown out already. You are just a SOXL holder who hasn't lost his ass yet
>>535904014A space telescope might want to see something withing 90 degrees of the sun, but you can always just not face the sun in space with a radiator. You might want earth shades, though I doubt it.
>>535893401schmelons idea.
>>535893401cooling is harder in space. I doubt it's real.
>>535904306ballsack flavour curry, absolutely revolting.
>>535904306>Tvs move in price relative to everyone hing else retardIrony>costedlmaoPrice is not magic, except maybe to morons such as yourself. It's COGS+margin. AI is going to reduce the white collar cost of manufacturing stuff just as robotics reduced the blue collar cost. The result will be cheaper stuff.>When niggers were picking cotton, cotton was not free,Slaves could pick cotton cheaper than freemen, which is why people used slaves. If the producers just pocketed the difference, they'd be more expensive than other slavers' cotton who didn't. That's how the free market works and why stuff gets better and cheaper.
>>535896656>investorfag doesn't understand latency Retards like you think giant, centralized daracenters are a good thing. You probably invested in Wonder Valley. You are a retard with no right to touch a computer of any kind. Humanity gives too much freedom and money to retards. You're goycattle with a nice bank balance.
>>535904497He farts in itIt's a blessing in Punjabi. Highly sought after delicacy called dhanya kari. Relieves arthritic joints
>>535894852What happens to the heat without air or water to absorb it?
>>535904633>You're goycattle with a nice bank balance.What's funniest about poors who don't understand how anything works is that you don't realize you are the goycattleYour bank balance is an objective and extremely accurate evaluation of how much value you provide to others, and how well you understand what's going on.
>>535904626Cotton is literally grown at profit. Your argument about a bunch of robots walking around doing everything and we just sit around iland drive Bentley's and live like the elite in some reverse communism euphoria is retarded futuristic bullshitNone of this will happen. AI will replace a few things like the internet did and the bubble will pop and trillions will be lostI
>>535894051Or these cartoonish datacenters will never come to fruition because their proposed energy consumption alone would make them insanely unprofitable. How many people are going to piss away a million bucks a week to replace workers that would have made half as much if they were generously paid? This is the elites trying to sell their own snake oil to themselves, in a best case scenario.
>>535900570Too vulnerable for the cloud systems they were meant for.
>>535893401Space is fake and gay, anon
>>535904782>Your argument about a bunch of robots walking around doing everything>bunch of hallucinations nobody saidHoly shit, you actually can't readAI and smart robots are going to reduce the cost of producing things and providing most services, massively. In fact it's going to be a good time to be alive.Eventually, you can have robot domestics, first as a luxury item and then they'll get cheaper. The main problem with humanoid robots was sense-compute, which is 90% solved now - if you think about it, it is an amazing bunch of parallel processing of a billion inputs that lets you get up out of your chair and walk across the room. Robots can finally do that now.Industrial robots won't look like people because that's stupid. The human body is built for climbing trees and running, it's a shitty form factor for accomplishing most tasks. If you want a robot that vacuums your floor, you don't build a humanoid robot with a vacuum cleaner, you build a roomba. A burger making robot looks like this, not C3PO holding a flipper
>>535904818>Or these cartoonish datacenters will never come to fruition because their proposed energy consumption alone would make them insanely unprofitable.That's why orbital makes sense, now that putting stuff into orbit is getting cheaperInfinite free uninterrupted solar as long as it's up there
>>535899653That is another bunch of bullshit. Colonizing Mars... Sure Elon, you go first.
>>535904324Yea you always orient the radiators edge-on to the sun when possible, but a shade would make it even cooler. Whether or not it's worth the additional cost idk.
>>535899927You really don't think they considered that the cup would float away in zero-G and so put some velcro or something on the bottom of it to attach it to surfaces? No, it was just a woopsy on their part and this observant anon was the first to point it out.
>>535893401Because space is a fucking fantasy. Nobody knows any of the "science" in space because it's all a bunch of bullshit that changes year to year. There's no proof that anything is up there. Where is the camera taking a picture of your satellite? How would something like that even fly? It's fucking stupid fantasy shit. Satellites you see from the ground are held up by weather balloons. They are not actually orbiting the earth in a vacuum. But you are missing the point. It's not about the science of your star trek fantasy. It's them saying they should build the data centers far far away from us. So far that it's in outer space because NOBODY in the world wants to live next to a data center.
>>535905321This is how liquids normally behave in zero/micro gravity
>>535904781>your value in life is determined by how rich you make kikesYou are lost and you don't even see why. Enjoy rotting in a nursing home bought out by private equity during your final days. The poorfags dying in the streets will die with more dignity.
>>535905229You missed the bit about latency, satellite Internet sucks for a reason. Keep pumping those bags though.
>>535905693How do you know that's how they behave in zero-G? Have you been in zero-G yourself? Or just trusting NASA Photoshoppery?
>>535905841I have never been, no, but it makes sense scientifically too: in the absence of gravity liquids like water should form spherical-ish floaty droplets that minimize their surface energy
>>535905737>>your value in life is determined by how rich you make kikesMoney is an exact, fair, and precise evaluation of 1) how much value you provide to your fellow man and 2) how much you understand what's going onYou can argue about inherent worth of human dignity and that's absolutely valid, but if you're poor it's because you are in the bottom of the pyramid in one or both of those things. >>535905813>latencyLmao hey since you're posting from 15 years ago, buy some BitcoinStarlink solved satellite latency years ago. Real-life RTT is like 30-40ms, compared with 10-15 for terrestrial. Also, what an orbital data center will be doing, ie AI, batch processing, data storage and content delivery, is not latency-sensitive. It's not video conferencing anonThis is almost as dumb as "space radiators are impossible" but still pretty dumb
>>535906156How can less-than-one-G exist if space isn't real and the Earth is everything?>it just erm looks right
>>535893401It solves the three biggest problems faced by data centers, cooling, electricity, and vulnerability to attack by humans.
>>535906410How does putting a data centers in space where there is no medium through which you can radiate heat away solve any cooling issue. If anything it will make cooling them insanely difficult as the only option to cool them would be to expel material used as a heat sink.
>>535899927>massive multi trillion dollar deception>make simple mistakes that first year film majors wouldn't makewhich one is it?
>>535893401It’s just Elons next grift for people to give him money
>>535893401>datacenters in spaceIt is complete bullshit. The biggest problem with servers is cooling them. You have to put the heat somewhere. You can have all the solar panels in space that you like but you need to cool that waste hot air they make. Ot hot water. And you can't because you are sitting in a vacuum in direct sunlight. They always forget about the direct sunlight part.
>>535906678>there is no medium through which you can radiate heat awayThis sequence of words proves not only that you don't understand how cooling in space works, but actually don't understand how cooling worksHow does the ISS get rid of all the heat it generates?
>>535906794>They always forget about the direct sunlight part.>memeflagYou're in India, aren't you
>>535906156>>535899927>Minimize their surface energyWater has surface tension and sticks to itself.And it's sealed inside the glass by its own vacuum.>Huh?If the water were to "float away" from the bottom of the glass it would create a vacuum and be instantly pulled back in, it cannot pull away from anywhere but the surface because said vacuum created from this would just suck the water in again. The only way it can float out is by the surface of the water, and surface tension and the urge of water to stick itself together keeps it in. Can't leave from either the surface or below.
>>535894124>Yes, sizing a radiator is trivial compared to the engineering needed to put it up there, which we already haveYour radiator is sitting in direct sunlight you stupid nigger.
>>535906410>Aliens wouldn't whirly-whip them into the 12th dimension for the lulz and to keep the niggers down
>>535902028>>535906166>"impossible" radiatorsIt's not a question of whether it's possible or not.It's efficiency and practicality.Is heat energy released as infrared in a vacuum a practical cooling system vs building a comparable data center on earth and cooling it via heat transfer to the atmosphere?Are there waters above the firmament they're not telling us a bout?
>>535906876>>535899927Basically you're talking about a bubble wand here, it can't leave from the bottom because of a vacuum being created from that.So you have that one singular surface that it could potentially leave from. That surface has no reason to bulge out and escape. This is minimized surface energy.
>>535906814The ISS is not a data center. The amount of heat it is generating is miniscule compared to a modern data center. Radiating the heat away via black body radiation is not viable.
The point is to keep "private" space afloat by any means necessary. Especially after NASA reality checked them and made it clear that they were running on welfare.
>>535906971>doesn't deny it>Your radiator is sitting in direct sunlight you stupid nigger.Rajesh, what happens if you put the radiator behind the solar panels?>>535907188>Is heat energy released as infrared in a vacuum a practical cooling systemYes, when you take into account infinite free electricity from the solar array, and that you can have it operating right now rather than going through 5 years of environmental permitting and Chinese-backed protests before you can even break ground>>535907221>Radiating the heat away via black body radiation is not viable>retard did some frantic googling>still can't do mathIt absolutely is viable. 35x35m per MW with chips at 77C
>>535907397>Especially after NASA reality checked them and made it clear that they were running on welfare.NASA's a government agency so it's kind of unfair to call them "running on welfare"
>>535907416>It absolutely is viable. 35x35m per MW with chips at 77CYou left out a dimension. Volume, density and thus mass matters when talking about space and that is a huge amount of material.
>>535893631The Arctic only gets 6 months of light retard. The reason data centers in space make sense is because they can be completely solar powered and take advantage of the cold of spaceand take advantage of the cold of space
>>535907713>that is a huge amount of material.Yep. Liquid-droplet could cut that mass by 80-90%, but even with good old ammonia mass into orbit is a rocketry problem, not a cooling problem
>>535893401The game starfield which was supposed to be NASA-punk had a segment where a guy was dude-bro science-ing himself about a supercomputer on moon. And he said it made sense because vacuum is freezing and you need your computers cold. If people supposed to be technologically literate did that what does poor retarded bitcoin grifter supposed to do?
>>535893552In the 90's the commoners thought "internet" was a program you ran in your computer.
>>535897516Would be much cheaper and safer for everyone human rights if you'll be thermally managed.
>>535894124>More important, there's infinite free energy up thereThere is infinite free cooling down here. And that free energy has a rather low energy density.
>>535894495>> terrible person >If he had been,He was a terrible person because he was an incompetent retard in a key position which meant that he indirectly killed millions of russians.
>>535893631sure, cover the whole area with heat-radiating equipment. How about not having data centers at all, for the purpose of 24/7 total monitoring of population.
>>535908389>And that free energy has a rather low energy density.Infinity * any density = infinity>There is infinite free cooling down here.There very much is not infinite free cooling down here. There is also increasingly expensive energy, thanks to the green retards, who have all pivoted from demanding that energy be made more expensive (as China began building every single form of energy production they could) to demanding that no data centers be built (as the AI race begins and compute backed by energy will be the deciding resource for the 21st century)
>>535907416>Yes, when you take into account infinite free electricity from the solar array,How the fuck does infinite free electricity cool GPUs?
>>535895110>Better question, why the fuck isn't everyone directing AI resources towards finding a solution to the cooling problem? If they find a more resource-efficient cooling method they can cut the cost and environmental impact of these centers by an order of magnitude.All the possible solution boundaries are known, this is basic physics, and you dont need an AI to do that. The great problem in the modern world is the lack of natural intelligence (NI). AI (which doesnt exist) is no subsitute for lack of NI (which is very rare). F.ex the vast majority of modern era white males are completely ignorant about basic natural science and technology and white women are much worse.
>>535908689>How the fuck does infinite free electricity cool GPUs?Man we really need to set the "You can vote" threshold to "you make enough money to be a net tax contributor"At least you're not one of the "data centers will steal all the water!" retards
>>535893979Some of the historical or religious figures are canonized, both Catholic and Orthodox Churches did that. Is just the recent addition which might raise an eyebrow when is know certain number of them were quite into this world pleasures.
>>535896127>AI is about to cut the price of a lot of goods significantlyfound the bigger retard
>59 pbtidWhat the fuck I was even thinking. Let's hope AI will at least remove such losers from the face of the earth.
>>535907845Nuclear reactors retard.Cold arctic air/water absorbs far more heat than sparse hydrogen gas in space.I swear this thread is full of pajeet shills for Starlink. The elite pajeet still can't into high school physics.>>535902748>You can't do an audit on spaceborne datacenters to make sure they're not calculating how to make a virus to kill all non-jews>Plebs don't have the resources to hit a datacenter in orbitBlack projects make the most sense after it all being a big grift.It's probably a combination of both.
>>535896569>I don’t know about other countries but we have enough amateur rocket hobbyist who could hit objects in orbit, they don’t because it’s illegal and would ruin their lifeHitting something in orbit is very hard which is why missile defense is very hard. Otherwise every negro would have his own ground based strategic defense grid. Your amateur rocket hobbyists arent going to reach orbital altitude and they arent going to hit shit except by impossible accident.
>>535893552Kamala harris also thought that. Prbbly still thinks that. And she almost become a president of the usa.
>>535909064>>535909174>third worlder mad that a white understands a subject better than he doesYou must be furious pretty much constantly
>>535896092How much does elon pay you to spit out that nonsense?
>>535905237>Datacenters>...but on Mars>by 2040*
>>535893401Just more grift my Elon.
The rich people who are for these data centers have bunkers.....and when the goy revolt they run to their bunkers. So....who is gonna protect their billions and billions of dollars investment they erected all over the country?
>>535908623>Infinity * any density = infinitySolar radiation is 1400 watt per m2 in space. You can convert 20% of that to electricity. How big of a solar panel do you need to supply 1000 megawatt to a space data center, and how heavy would it have to be? Low density energy sources are not cheap to harvest. Green morons think wind power has to be cheap because the wind is free. but you have to space your wind mills out or they steal wind from each other, and you need several thousands of small generators to replace one big nuclear power generator 90% of the time. The other 10% your wind mills are not delivering enough power. Smaller generators have the same complexity as larger generators meaning that it costs a shitload more to build several thousands of small generators to replace one big generator, and you still need the one big generator for when the wind fades and your enormous investment in wind mills generate nothing. In the end you have an enormous wind mill park of several thousand windmills and you have to pay an enormous upkeep cost to keep them serviced because your wind farm requires several thousand times more manpower and spare parts in upkeep than the one big steam generator down at the nuclear power plant. So free low density energy sources are not free.
>>535907460Reread the post
>>535909586I was making a joke, though I did have a little bit of hope that you weren't actually as dumb as you appear to be>based SLS!>only $4 billion for 95 tons to orbit!!It is one of the most expensive systems ever flown and absolutely embarrassing when China and Blue Origin now both have landed reusable boosters>>535909577>How big of a solar panel do you need to supply 1000 megawatt to a space data center, and how heavy would it have to be?Huge. Actually, the radiative cooling loop for that wattage would be the big mass part of the equation, even as chunks lifted separately or a networked cluster. However, you can have it operating right away, which means you skip 5 years of environmental review and Chinese-paid protests trying to stop you, while your competitors overseas are building as fast as they can get chips on. And once it's running, it runs for free.
